Yahoo and Google attempt to improve the browser

A year ago it was Google with its Gears project. Now Yahoo wants to make your browser better, too.

A year after Google launched its Gears project, Yahoo announced software called BrowserPlus that has a similar philosophy: expand what's possible to make Web applications a better alternative to programs running natively on a personal computer. Right now, it's available only in a "sneak peek" on some Yahoo-operated websites.

"BrowserPlus is a technology designed to 'extend the Web', so that developers can build more exciting Web applications and so end users can get more done inside their Web browsers," Yahoo said on a BrowserPlus frequently-asked-questions page.

Among its abilities: "Different websites can use BrowserPlus to support things like drag and drop from the desktop, easier file uploads, more efficient and secure acquisition of feeds and information, and native desktop notifications," Yahoo said.

BrowserPlus works on Mac OS X 10.4 and 10.5 machines and on Windows XP and Vista machines. Supported browsers are Internet Explorer 7 or later, Apple Safari 3 or later, and Firefox 2 or later, Yahoo said.

Those who want to try it out can visit Yahoo's BrowserPlus demo site. That site offers an in-page Flickr photo uploader that lets users drag, tag, rotate, and crop photos, an IRC IM client; and for the programmer types, a JSON (JavaScript Object Notation) inspector.

The software, along with Gears, shows an interesting trend in Web design: the biggest players are working to expand what can be done with the Internet. It's reminiscent of the early days of the Web, when Netscape and Internet Explorer would implement new features to permit more elaborate websites.

When Google launched Gears a year ago, the company overemphasised one important feature, its ability to make Web applications work even when the browser is disconnected from the Internet, Chris Prince, a lead Gears engineer, said in a talk at the Google I/O conference.

The new features of Gears, though, head in dramatically different directions: notifications on the desktop of various events, support for location information, better interactions with a computer's file system, and technology to let large file uploads proceed even when hampered by intermittent network connectivity.

"I think people have realised the browser is kind of broken," Prince said in an interview after his talk. "A lot of us are trying to improve it."

Prince wouldn't commit to any of the new features ever making their way into Gears, but it's clear the company has grand ambitions for what can be done with Web applications. "We want to make it so Web applications can be just as powerful as desktop applications by unlocking the capability of the local machine," Prince said.

He demonstrated five Gears prototypes:

|> Let a Web page create a shortcut icon on a computer's desktop so people could launch that Web application with a double-click instead of a more laborious process.

|> A notification process, which like Yahoo's BrowserPlus feature ties into a computer's general system notification abilities, is a major missing piece in letting Web applications seize a user's attention the way desktop apps can. "Web apps have this problem where they can't tell users about important things happening on their system," Prince said.

|> His file system demonstration showed a dialog box that let him select a large group of photos for upload rather than the one-file-at-a-time process that today afflicts website operations.

|> A "blob"-processing ability could be used, for example, to divide a large file into bite-sized pieces, an approach that makes it easier to restore an upload interrupted by a bad network connection.

|> He used a geolocation-processing ability to process latitude-longitude information to provide a more useful Google map showing bars near Moscone Center in San Francisco.

Gears still needs to handle privacy, though, when it comes to sharing location information with websites, he added. "There has to be permission for using location data. We haven't figured out the best model yet," Prince said.

And though he didn't demonstrate anything, Prince also said there's work under way to try to build webcam and microphone support into Gears.

Google also announced that it's expanding browser support for Gears.

"We are currently adding Firefox 3 and Safari support. And Opera is working to support Gears on both desktop and mobile," Prince said.

Google appears to be trying to make it easier for competitors to embrace Gears. At its Google I/O conference, Google de-branded Gears today, taking its name off the project, in an effort to show it's not just the company's work. MySpace announced it's using Gears for its mail system at the show.

When MySpace users go to their mailbox, they'll be invited to install Google Gears, said Allen Hurff, MySpace's senior vice president of engineering, in an appearance on Wednesday at the Google I/O conference. "It's available to everyone today," Hurff said.

When users install Gears, they'll be able to quickly search their inboxes for specific terms or sort messages, for example to show unread mail, Hurff said.

Gears hasn't caught on widely, but MySpace gives the project more clout. And Google thinks some of Gears' success is actually measured in its influence over the new HTML 5 standard for describing Web pages.

In MySpace's case, one useful Gears feature is local storage on a computer. Another is the ability to run multiple threads at the same time — in effect, to walk and chew gum at the same time. For MySpace, that includes letting a computer index text at the same time it draws user-interface elements on the browser screen, Hurff said.

Talkback

Add your opinion

In order to post a comment, you need to be registered. (Sign In or register below)

Post your comment

Terms of Service - As a ZDNet registrant, and by using this service, you indicate that you agree to our Terms and Conditions and have read and understand our Privacy Policy.

ZDNet Australia Live

RT @konradski: Whaddayaknow - turns out Wi-Fi CAN interfere with a plane's navigation systems http://t.co/ospQCU2S

This story has been voted 5 times in the last 24 hours!

47 minutes ago, NBN's Tassie upgrade to cost $1.3 million

Sorry no deal Cinders, I'd rather send my money to someone and watch them desperately try to stop the NBN as this has much better enterta...

57 minutes ago by Hubert Cumberdale on NBN users opt for 100Mbps

What else can you expect from a Dodo customer?

1 hour ago by Hubert Cumberdale on NBN users opt for 100Mbps

NBN users opt for 100Mbps - Communications - News - ZDNet Australia: NBN users opt for 100Mbps - Communications ... http://t.co/btB9gKWg

NBN users opt for 100Mbps http://t.co/xKqEb4bE via @zdnetaustralia

Biometric bugs too dangerous for public? http://t.co/8JLz5tdF via @zdnetaustralia

Oh please dont be unkind, I gotta have some fan's. btw I agree I dont set the standard, but who does I wonder?

3 hours ago by Doubt on NBN users opt for 100Mbps

You agree but give him thumbs down... I think you'd better take the medication before one of your alter ego's Fred/Frank/Frergers appear...

3 hours ago by Beta on NBN users opt for 100Mbps

Exploring: http://t.co/rT7RPZLA

+1

3 hours ago by Beta on NBN users opt for 100Mbps

War talk dominates #AusCERT 2012 - http://t.co/SlBpMj0c - #security #cyber

So we agree it was a stupid idea and even stupider comment then ;-)

3 hours ago by Beta on NBN users opt for 100Mbps

Not you obviously ;-)

And stop giving yourself thumbs up FFS.

3 hours ago by Beta on NBN users opt for 100Mbps

Ok Beta, understand now, just one point who sets the standard?

3 hours ago by Doubt on NBN users opt for 100Mbps

Oh no Beta you misunderstand me. I like my waterfront home and deep water jetty, it's those "other" people who can move to Willunga.

3 hours ago by Doubt on NBN users opt for 100Mbps

I agree with you Magnus, but really most people like living on the coastal fringe.

3 hours ago by Doubt on NBN users opt for 100Mbps

Travel Tech Q&A: Skyscanner's Ewan Gray http://t.co/vYexrDwu #ipad

Exploring: http://t.co/YNVjdrct

Exploring: Travel Tech Q and A: Skyscanner's Ewan Gray: Ewan Gray, Skyscanner's director for Asia ... http://t.co/bNLCyobv #ICTChallenge

Exploring: Travel Tech Q and A: Skyscanner's Ewan Gray: Ewan Gray, Skyscanner's director for Asia ... http://t.co/HEPuJgyt #ICTChallenge

#NewSouthWales ditches registration stickers 4 light #vehicles in favour of #technology http://t.co/xX5N0Rp9

Another use is city based top surgeons using 8K resolution monitors to provide real-time assistance to country surgeons and doctors to op...

4 hours ago by Magnus on NBN users opt for 100Mbps

In terms of capacity, fibre is basically future proof. Never mind 100Mbps or even 1Gbps. Computer scientists have already achieved 100 gi...

4 hours ago by Magnus on NBN users opt for 100Mbps

What I like about Mike Quigley is that he is making it happen, despite all the bull**t barriers being put in front of him by Coalition po...

4 hours ago by Magnus on NBN users opt for 100Mbps

Anonymous hacks Reliance's Internet filtering server - ZDNet (blog) http://t.co/uObU1HBP http://t.co/0UBXxwX4

Which Windows will make for a better tablet? http://t.co/4mAHg850

Gonna be crowded when TA switches of the inter webby thingy and everyone moves there, just as you suggested though.

6 hours ago by Beta on NBN users opt for 100Mbps

Yes "without secure internet identification methods" I cannot see a future for online voting be it a referendum or selecting a Gov (at ...

6 hours ago by Taskmanager on A farewell to democracy: Kaspersky

Oh of course you would would want something in return. hmmm I see, well maybe my best wishes for and your family. btw, Western Union is ...

6 hours ago by Doubt on NBN users opt for 100Mbps

Well Willunga looks like a nice place to live, close to wine growing areas, a golf club. Houses are probably reasonably priced. Very nice...

6 hours ago by Doubt on NBN users opt for 100Mbps

Listening to @stilgherrian cover AusCERT and cyberwar, http://t.co/6lGUEz8H

http://edfarmaciaes.com/#0500 generico viagra barcelona EdFarmaciaEs sildenafil y sulfatos

7 hours ago by buy priligy cheap on Top alternatives to Microsoft Outlook

Travel Tech Q and A: Skyscanner's Ewan Gray http://t.co/VN5tGJzC

#Westpac Board goes paperless with #Ipads with #Tabula #App http://t.co/duxuj2fd #Cybersecurity #Bank

Microsoft is serious about open source??? http://t.co/mqQGgta7

If I give you money what do I get in return? Do you know how commerce works or are you just a filthy poor that wants my monies for nothin...

7 hours ago by Hubert Cumberdale on NBN users opt for 100Mbps

@joedamato just try varying caps randomly. Maybe they do this http://t.co/1FN5FwYv

NSW outlines datacentre migration plans - Hardware - News - ZDNet Australia http://t.co/OQfUl0D1

MikeSkoey - thanks for your comments. Rather than hang my head in shame, I am proud of my achievements, particularly of being able to ru...

7 hours ago by Paul_Berryman on 30 servers to 7: BUPA redoes virtualisation

"on the new fast Internets everyone wants the fast plan" #orly #nareally #yarly http://t.co/kvfCa84A

Chrome overtakes IE: does it matter? http://t.co/e4SILk8a

A ZDNet study showed that British Facebook users are drunk in 76 percent of their photos.

The HDMI cable ripoff and why retail is really dying http://t.co/eFT7zEW7

Travel Tech Q and A: Skyscanner's Ewan Gray http://t.co/IUysbyKf

Travel Tech Q and A: Skyscanner's Ewan Gray http://t.co/V7vL5QB9

ZDNet reports Microsoft launches its own social service http://t.co/VJS5BkwF

by http://t.co/vmlLt4bh: Travel Tech Q and A: Skyscanner's Ewan Gray: Ewan Gray, Skyscanner's director for Asia P... http://t.co/4bfDRXo4

Travel Tech Q and A: Skyscanner's Ewan Gray http://t.co/CtNlVWN7

Travel Tech Q and A: Skyscanner's Ewan Gray: Ewan Gray, Skyscanner's director for Asia Pacific, shares some of h... http://t.co/ZxjpmqiM

Microsoft is serious about open source: 10 proof points http://t.co/iv2ji74q

Accelerator targets 'clean-tech' start-ups http://t.co/p9VPCzCa

RT @vexnews: NBN users opt for highest speed plan http://t.co/8eUvvVvQ

OutsourcingLive: #Outsourcing is still on the rise http://t.co/5U6R431A ^NK http://t.co/B8HtVvAD

In Facebook IPO fiasco the 'smart money' got burnt - ZDNet (blog): TIMEIn Facebook IPO fiasco the 'smart money' ... http://t.co/3iD1g6lG

But will we actually get 100mps Internet speeds often overstated RT@vexnews: NBN users opt for highest speed plan http://t.co/1uTiHXrd

This story has been voted 12000 times in the last 24 hours!

2 days ago, Is Bill Gates a great leader?

This story has been voted 10 times in the last 24 hours!

3 days ago, CeBIT 2012 opens: photos

This story has been voted 15 times in the last 24 hours!

3 days ago, Lenovo ThinkPad 3G tablet (32GB)

Facebook Activity

Keep up with ZDNet Australia

ZDNet Events Calendar

ZDNet Events Calendar