Telco alliance acting on self-interest: IDC

The members of the Alliance for Affordable Broadband, which last night released a manifesto with an alternative plan for a national broadband network, are looking out for their own interests and not those of the nation, according to IDC telecommunications analyst David Cannon.

"I respect them. I think they're good businessmen," Cannon told ZDNet Australia, "but I do not believe that they're doing it in the interests of the nation."

Telecommunications chief executives including AAPT's Paul Broad, Pipe Networks founder Bevan Slattery, Vocus Communications' James Spenceley, and others including BigAir's Jason Ashton, Allegro Networks' David Waldie, EFTel's John Lane and Polyfone's Paul Wallace are all part of the Alliance for Affordable Broadband.

The alliance's idea is that there is a need for a fibre-based network, closer to the Coalition's $6 billion proposal than Labor's $43 billion plan, but that it should only be rolled out where it is supported by a cost-benefit analysis or need.

The alliance's option, which it believes would cost $3 billion, involves a number of facets:

  • 4G national wholesale network coverage, to 98 per cent of Australians, at up to 100Mbps;
  • Fibre or equivalent high-speed broadband for backhaul, school, hospitals and most businesses, at speeds up to 1Gbps;
  • A fibre-based solution (whether that be fibre to the premise or FTTN or a combination of both) for areas of demonstrated need via commercial return, or where there is a demonstrated and justifiable improvement in productivity and/or social equality to justify taxpayer contribution;
  • Satellite for remote areas, at speeds up to 12Mbps.

However, Cannon doesn't think that the alliance's motivations are pure.

"The reality is ... they've never had a better time than right now in the market," he said, explaining that telcos now have regulated access pricing from the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission, which presented them a great business case for providing DSLAM-based broadband.

No new competitors were appearing as no-one else was getting into exchanges now, he said. Access was a key differentiator and the smaller players were taking market share away from Telstra.

These players didn't want that to change, Cannon believed. He also believed that the requirement in the plan that 4G wireless spectrum come with conditions attached was a sign of those players feeling they'd missed out on the wireless pie, which carriers such as Telstra and Optus currently enjoy.

Cannon didn't agree with the alliance's proposal of a national wireless network, saying that he was yet to see a wireless service that didn't fluctuate based on user load and line of sight. He also bagged the proposal that fibre should be rolled out where it was commercially viable or where there was a sufficient case. He said that everyone understood that this network wasn't about getting a commercial return; the return on investment is over 10 years, he said.

"It's not about today. It's a generational shift."

However, analysts such as independent telecommunications consultant Kevin Morgan, have said that the NBN is a Rolls Royce approach to broadband based on "over-hyped technology" and that wireless will be perfectly sufficient.

Ovum analyst David Kennedy said the alliance's ideas were sound.

"Just looking at the principles — none of these seem to be out of court," he said. "It makes perfect sense."

Kennedy said that it looks like the National Broadband Network will really have an uphill battle from here.

With hindsight, he said, the decision to rush through and implement a broadband network with no research and analysis was not a good one.

The alliance's proposal for a national broadband showed that the industry had as yet reached no consensus on what investment strategy was needed to support future needs, according to Kennedy.

"We haven't done the work to figure out where our broadband needs are going in the future," he said.

The Labor Government has rammed the National Broadband Network policy down everyone's throats, Kennedy said, which had meant it seemed inevitable so people sat back and waited.

Now, however, the balance of power has changed earlier than everyone thought.

"There is space for alternative debate that hasn't previously existed," Kennedy said.

He believed that the alliance was trying to influence the course of negotiations between the parties and independents, and said that was a good strategy.

"If you wanted to have your voice heard, now is the time to do it."

IBRS analyst Guy Cranswick agreed with Cannon that the proposal was self-serving, but also said that the idea had merit and raised questions about costing and feasibility.

Cranswick said it took aim at the failure of a business case, and provided a solution that had an implied business case by allowing the market to determine price and service.

The manifesto didn't, however, solve the problem of Telstra's control of the last mile, he said.

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Talkback

As one of the authors of the NBN3.0 AAB document I can assure I have no self interest, my business Vocus (ASX:VOC) provides international capacity, I don't get any benefit from NBN vs. NBN3.0

Bevan (PIPE founder) sold his business 6 months ago, again no self Interest, except maybe as a tax payer.

I've seen no self interest from the group and certainly not from me

We've come together because we care about the Industry and believe there needs to be some serious debate and the current NBN is expensive and has not been costed properly.

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Cheers,

James Spenceley

jrs2jrs2 September 1st, 2010
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Soryy James, but according to your linked in page, "Vocus provides International and Domestic Internet to a large portion of Australia's Independent ISPs and Content Hosting companies. In addition to Data services, Vocus has a large interconnected Voice network and provides Call Termination and Phone numbers across Australia.

If the independant ISP's go to the NBN and the voice and data switches to companies that can compete via the NBN, wouldn't that directly effect VOCUS?

It's not about the commercial return, it's about giving all Australia a fair chance to compete in a world market. Apart from the horrible latency, let's not forget the spectrum for all of this is reliant on the shut down of the analog tv signal wich won't be finalised for at least FOUR years! So what do they propose we do?? Would they prefer if we sat back and waited FOUR years because their option although it will be less reliable, prone to overloading of cells and slower speeds (I use 3G on the road and the speeds advertised are NOT what you get by a long shot!)?

gregsmithgregsmith September 1st, 2010
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All Australia a fair chance? Are saying is there is a groundswell of rural businesses out there that are moribund because they can't get 1000M Internet access or 1000M WAN links? The greater majority of the business that would require anything like these speeds already have them available and they are in the capital cities that are already fibered. (They don't normally use anywhere near that much BW, btw). Unfortunately "build and they will come" or "you don't know what you don't know, so let's build for the future" isn't fair to the country.... I am sure we could use the $35B to $90B on a range of projects to fix other things wrong with Australia (health, water supply, rail transport, law & order?).

Many seem to see this as a once in a lifetime, mutually exclusive, event. It isn't. Any fibre backbone developed by the Coalition NBN or this NBNv3.0 to hit the rural/regional 'blackspots' would obviously form the basis of any FTTH network if this was proven to be necessary in the future. To date this is not proven.... Australian fixed line use is dropping and people are moving to wireless. Many people now don't have a fixed line service in their home.

Telstra and Optus are well advanced with their tests of LTE, those that decry wireless shouldn't base it on existing 3G/3G+ services. LTE and the inevitable LTE Advanced will be much superior.

As regards spectrum, it's true that normal frequencies used for LTE are current used for some analog TV channels.... but not all channels are used in every area (particularly in rural areas) and it possible to either move stations to another channel or bring forward the migration to Digital in some areas, or use an entirely different band for LTE in Australia.... the Federal Government manages frequency allocation so they have the power to do this.

It is easy and all too obvious to blame self interest for this alternative plan, but just maybe these guys have the real-world experience to advise on a network that develops Australia, provides value for money services, and isn't an ongoing drain on taxpayers.

PhillITPhillIT September 1st, 2010
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$35b -90b ... $90b, that's a newie, nice figures Phil, why not just round it up to a nice neat $100b, since we're (well you) are claiming complete BS?

As said before, we spend $80b per year on governance alone, yet you cry the Liberal FUD that $4.3b p.a. max. is too much to spend on a nation wide FTTP network, that will benefit more than a few greedy pollies?

Again, trim the $80b by a meagre 5% per year and in ten years when completed, the savings from parliamentary extravagancies, will have paid for a NBN for all!

RSRS September 1st, 2010
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Google "Rolls-Royce NBN" for another view on your beloved.

Unfortunately networks need managing, and equipment needs replacing probably every 5-10 years.

PhillITPhillIT September 1st, 2010
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Now Google ostrich and go to images Phil.

Is that one in the middle there with his head in the sand you or James, bit hard to tell?

RSRS September 1st, 2010
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Nice one PhilIT

Its nice to see someone thinking logically, I get very scared when the only reason I hear to do something is "we can't be left behind".

jrs2jrs2 September 1st, 2010
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Perhaps what's even scarier, is when those like you finally realise that it's too late, we have actually been left behind, then what...?

RSRS September 1st, 2010
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there it is ...
"hurry or it'll be too late"
"we'll be left behind"
It will never be "too late" we can always build network as demand is there
No-one will be left behind, it's not like suddenly the world will look at us and say, hey Australia only has 100mbps Internet and not Gbps, don't visit them, trade with them or have anything to do with them.

Guys there is no "left behind" most countries are rolling out FTTH to about 15-30% of their country, that is what is economically viable, go do the research and verify that. Does that mean ~70% of most european and Asia countries are also being left behind ?

jrs2jrs2 September 2nd, 2010
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Oh James, don't desperately try to put words into my mouth.

My comment was simply a facetious play on your own silly comment and if you can't see that, then I'm afraid your comprehension skills need a quick servicing...!

And you expect us to take you (who is so easily lured into a forum slanging match) and the other members of your motley crew, seriously...LOL!!!

RSRS September 2nd, 2010
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I can not believe people like yourself RS, who seem to think that the NBN is a great way to spend, over $43 BILLION, and in case you did not get that the first time you knucklehead, BILLION, BILLION dollars on something that is NOT absolutely necessary right NOW. Firstly we need to do several other things before we do this, 1. Drought proof this country , cost approximately $16 - $18 BILLION dollars. 2. Fix our health system NATIONALLY, appoximate cost to do it properly, $10 - 12 BILLION dollars and so on. So forgive me and other people on this planet for saying we can live with some fibre optic upgrades ( make fibre optic for now if essential services, such as Hospitals, doctors, Police and major education centres, all the Universities) for now with better wireless in rural areas for the time being. If that means we only spend $3 - 6 BILLION now, then so be it. Nothing to stop us in the future from totally upgrading, but not before we plan for the future of this country. We need a proper water plan, a proper food plan, a proper health plan NATIONALLY a long time before we need this NBN. This will be a great boost to business in the future, but NOTHING compared to us future proofing this country for the time when the natural resources begin to die out, through the growth in our ability to become one of the world's leading food suppliers because we drought proofed this nation.

wildlifewildlife September 2nd, 2010
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Wildlife...listen now stupid (and I only call you stupid, stupid, because you had the indecency and lack of respect to refer to me as knucklehead... didn't you stupid).

While ever we spend $80B p.a. on governance, when an NBN is just $4.3b p.a. meaning they can trim 5% p.a for 10 years and pay for the NBN, you and your contrived BS mean nothing...

RSRS September 2nd, 2010
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My concern is that this is just an exercise in, "We can't be left behind."

The NBN should not be aiming at a mere 100 Mb which, by the time it is built, will only just be keeping up with the rest of the world.

Australia once led the world technologically, so we should be building a "future-proof" NBN to show everyone else what true over-engineering really is, as opposed to the "barely adequate" approach that is currently used in mass production.

TreknologyTreknology September 8th, 2010
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That's very metro focused of you Phil. I know bucket loads of businesses who are constrained by ADSL2 today. Wireless is too unpredictable for full time office use without hurting productivity (great for mobility though).

What about workforce flexibility? I know a successful Marketing business who's owner is based in a town of 6500. They have rural and metro clients. They have a dispersed workforce of 8 people in small or home offices in metro and rural. They collaborate on large documents and media files...... & they scream at me when they're being hammered by a deadline and it takes forever to move data around.

The best available solution to them is ADSL2+ on a Telstra port. Are you suggesting that 1mbps is plenty for business? I work in an office of 20 people in said town of 6500 & I can tell you that 1mbps isn't exactly awesome.

So the AAB is saying fibre to most businesses. My office of 20 employs health promotion staff and health professionals to deliver services and education in a rural area. Are they saying that we should relocate to the Sydney CBD?

I agree, this alliance is about self interest, not national interest. I think much less of those involved because of it.

neil_mcneil_mc September 2nd, 2010
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"I agree, this alliance is about self interest, not national interest. I think much less of those involved because of it."

So getting the taxpayer at massive cost to bankroll FTTH to the door of your business is what exactly if not also 'self-interest'?

advocateadvocate September 2nd, 2010
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"So getting the taxpayer at massive cost to bankroll FTTH to the door of your business is what exactly if not also 'self-interest'?"

I can see what you're getting at. State and national road projects have a budget of about $100 billion over the next 10 years. Having a sealed road to your business is also pretty selfish. When it falls apart (like copper) we should just patch it up with a sort of works solution ;)

"Massive cost" gets thrown around a lot, but if you think of it in a national long term infrastructure perspective, what exactly is massive about it?

neil_mcneil_mc September 2nd, 2010
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Well it's a reasonably simple premise, FTTH will be a direct benefit to your business which you don't have to pay for, you accuse the NBN 3.0 plan of being about self-interest, well it is in the exact same way.

Many business's will benefit from the NBN including ISP's, there is no doubt about that, but its prime appeal comes from the fact that the taxpayer is bankrolling it with a open cheque book and the wholesale pricing is not be based on any concept of ROI as we know it.

If Telstra or SingTel were building it for example based on a proper commercial return on the investment you and other businesses might not find it so appealing.

advocateadvocate September 3rd, 2010
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And again, NBN = National Broadband Network.

The aim is for everyone nationally, to benefit. And yes people pay via their taxes and will pay to utilise.

If Telstra or SingTel were building it, it wouldn't be built because the areas which need it most aren't economically viable.

So again N = National... for a reason. Enough stupidity please!

RSRS September 3rd, 2010
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The NBN coming to your door one day whether you need it or not, you are paying for it whether you need it or not and have we got a little surprise for you when you read the small print about the installation cost of the licensed network installer to be paid for by you - oh and BTW there is no choice if you want a fixed line.

I expect the migration to mobile phones post NBN rollout to even more of a avalanche than it already is, with thousands of customers now dropping Telstra PSTN for mobile capped plans every week.

advocateadvocate September 4th, 2010
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And...

I am, as a taxpayer too, paying for hospitals - whether I'm sick or not. Schools - whether I need them or not. Roads - whether I drive or not. "Expensive Governance (latest figures almost $92.862B p.a) whether I actually need such extravagance or not". And comms infrastructure - whether I use it or not.

But that's what tax dollars are for, why the hell do you think we pay taxes? Just for a backward thinking government to horde and then say look at us, look how ecomomically prudent and what great managers we are, whilst the country's infrastructure falls apart.

It's a bit like when you are building a house, you might like to connect sewerage and add a few W.C's, because you just never know, eh?

Funny though, it's not all about me (well you...)! It's about us and again as such, I refer you to the first N in NBN...NATIONAL!

RSRS September 4th, 2010
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Helloooo... earth to planet advocate, are you actually with us? The light is on but no one is home...

No it isn't self interest, because the NBN is for all of us!

Where as this alliance is an alliance of greed for a select few and nothing else...

RSRS September 2nd, 2010
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Spot on Phill, when it comes to the NBN rollout many put on the rose coloured glasses and only see what they want to see.

advocateadvocate September 2nd, 2010
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And vice versa, oh glass is half empty boy...!

RSRS September 2nd, 2010
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Great. This is exactly what we need as if the coalition hadn't muddied the waters already with their half-**** edbroadband plan now we have a third group of twits trying to put their interests ahead of the nations (not surprising really) and quite frankly I'm sick of all this wireless talk too, it's a dead end we all know it. We should do this NBN right the first time. Lay fibre ask questions later.

Hubert CumberdaleHubert Cumberdale September 1st, 2010
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@gregsmith

"If the independant ISP's go to the NBN and the voice and data switches to companies that can compete via the NBN, wouldn't that directly effect VOCUS?"

Actually that is good for us, they will buy their first/last mile from NBN but that is only the link to the house, they'll still need International/Domestic Internet and Voice termination for the VOIP service.

If you want to look at affordability check out the plans for Singapore's new FTTH network.

http://info.singtel.com/personal/fibrebroadband

EVEN those services magic 200mbps services have the International limited to 15-25Mbps and the cheapest plan is $85 !

Can you imagine how much cheaper it is to do FTTH in a country with the population density of singapore.

If anything that prooces the current NBN is just plain broken and we need to look at a new model that includes a number of options (FTTH,N,HFC and wireless) if we don't want unaffordable broadband.

James

jrs2jrs2 September 1st, 2010
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James... there's a gentleman here named Syd.

Syd is a Telstra shareholder, an active Telstra supporter, attends every Telstra AGM, has been interviewed on NWAT and used to comment at multiple blogs daily, "perpetually, in defence of, or on behalf of, Telstra".

Now of course Syd "actually believed" that he was commenting logically and impartially. But, he would say things like, God Bless Telstra and refer to them as Saint Telstra (seriously). So whild Syd may have wrongly assumed his impartiality, in essence, he was as biased as one could possibly ever be and simply speaking on behalf of his own financial agenda/those beaten and bruised TLS shares.

James (along with your own like-minded, band of amigo's) you remind me of a lot, of Syd...!

RSRS September 1st, 2010
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hahahah.....i missed uncle Syd, was going to coment while on the way to work but my half arse wireless is to slow for me to do anything so i have to wait till i get to the office. Some day, the wireless stays connected well throughout the trip, other days, it's so f&*ked up. That's wireless for you.

Salami ChujilloSalami Chujillo September 2nd, 2010
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Anyone who says "wireless is sufficient" obviously hasn't tried to use it in earnest, or has a vested interest. Also the idea that people are "moving" to wireless is b.s. based on uptake figures of wireless, but ignoring that there is no correlating drop in ADSL connections. Wireless is a complimentary technology at best. As someone who travels weekly, I use both ADSL and wireless a lot and like the poster above me am often swearing at the dodgy wireless connection even in the middle of the CBD but as for ADSL, its just always on and I barely even think about it.

xBeaniexBeanie September 2nd, 2010
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Yep. I know a lot more people with fixed line connections + wireless. Wireless is brilliant for a lot of things. I've used 3g adapters and now phone tethering over the last couple of years. There's no way I'm going to ditch fixed line connections at home or the office for wireless.

The only people I know who have only wireless exclusively have no choice. (the only exception was a neighbour who was tricked by BP sales into leaving ADSL for wireless.... something they reversed as soon as they started using it).

neil_mcneil_mc September 2nd, 2010
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Why now after all these years? Where have you been slackers? Yup, Defiantly Self-INTEREST.

It wouldn't surprise me that they want the government to build the most difficult part, the backhaul.

ZeroNutZeroNut September 2nd, 2010
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And who is going to provide compensation to Telstra for loosing enough customers on the copper network to keep it sustainable?

ZeroNutZeroNut September 2nd, 2010
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Umm, no one ZeroNut... what do you think $9b-$11b, Telstra/Government HoA payment is for?

RSRS September 2nd, 2010
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Well that's not 'no one', that's the sucker taxpayer footing the bill (again), but of course that's not added to the total cost of the NBN which is unknown anyway because that's a 'different kind of cost', the fact that the Telstra payment would not have been made if there was no NBN is kept very low key.

advocateadvocate September 4th, 2010
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Wireless is not an effective alternative. Just by sheer physics, we can't service a nation of 22 million people on wireless. Get it done right the first time; you can't transfer anything faster than light - and it makes fibre the ubiquitous technology that will last the test of time. Just as a reminder; 10 years ago 56k was seen as serviceable internet. Now in 2010 people cry at anything less than 2mbps (a 20x increase) and thats just for home! Going off this linearly, we will need 40mbps internet by 2020, and 800mbps by 2030. Going off current wireless access, which is up to 24mbps, but averages about 4 - this will mean that a 100mbps wireless connection will be eclipsed by 2015 (projected 16.6mbps average wireless access speed as an approximation of current average wireless access speeds). As can be seen, this is wholely inadequate and a waste of 7 billion dollars.

CammCamm September 2nd, 2010
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No city-based business would likely move to the country unless there is high-speed bidirectional broadband. It doesn't matter what individuals are using - it matters what SMBs need.

Without an incentive for businesses to move out of metropolitan areas, those metropolotan areas will become ever-growing sink-holes of infrastructure $Bs.

A 'wait and see what the need is' attitudes does not create the circumstances for changing Australia's demographics in a way that reverses the continual population drain from the country. For SMBs to move to country towns, the critical piece of infrastructure is communications, whereas other infrastructure, like transport, can rapidly scale (in the country). The NBN is the only proposal that is pre-emptive is this regard. All the others are too reliant on wishful thinking and technologies that are unproven or do not scale well.

PatanjaliPatanjali September 2nd, 2010
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I have asked this question of you before, so what is your prediction of the population/SMB shifts to the already NBN enabled areas of Smithton, Scottsdale and Midway Point in Tasmania and over what timeline?

advocateadvocate September 3rd, 2010
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peaking of which, I have asked you 2 questions many times, which have gone unanswered just as many times, so seriously... what is good for the advocate is good for the gander!

RSRS September 3rd, 2010
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