NSW to censor student laptops

The NSW Department of Education and Training (DET) this week revealed plans to limit internet access on the laptops given to the state's senior students under the "digital education revolution" to a pre-approved list of websites.

Speaking at an Australian Information Industry Association lunch yesterday, Michael Coutts-Trotter, DET's director general and its chief information officer, Stephen Wilson, said the department's first priority in allowing students to take the laptops home was to prevent them being sold off.

"On our laptop model, the first question is how do you prevent them from being sold down at the pub," said Coutts-Trotter. "Well, you equip them in a way so they are only of use within a DET environment or are only of use for DET students or authorised users, such as staff."

"So yeah, that's what it would mean: that you would be coming into an authenticated environment from home," he said.

Later, chief information officer Wilson detailed the "unbreakable" filtering system that would control students' internet experience on the proposed laptops.

"Our internet filtering is unbreakable. We have a huge proxy array that does all the filtering. We've just brought that in-house and the reason we have done that is we want much tighter control over it," said Wilson.

DET has developed 98 categories of websites that are accessible to students. "Every internet site that's known is actually categorised. If it isn't known, it's blocked. If you go to a site and it's not categorised you can't get to it," he said.

"I know that the Commonwealth introduced an internet filtering initiative that a high school student broke, or claimed to have broken, very quickly. I just want you to understand ours is completely different. We're at the end of the pipe and nothing goes through that pipe that doesn't get filtered," he said.

The vision hinges on NSW acquiring an extra $245 million funding from the Commonwealth over the $197 million currently proposed, which it has claimed is necessary to deliver a laptop to every student in years nine to 12.

The proposal has outraged long standing e-business consultant and civil rights advocate, Roger Clarke.

"It would be bad enough of them creating a list of blocked sites, but the notion that they would only allow students access to that which has been approved is incredible," he told ZDNet.com.au today.

"What credibility can a government organisation and educational bureaucracy have with the people they're trying to communicate with when the students, through all of their own devices and through friend's devices, have access to the world," he added.

NSW is yet to release an official expression of interest for the laptops it wanted and Wilson said it wouldn't do so until an agreement had been reached with Canberra.

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i'm on my laptop now and i think they r going to be made redundent pretty soon cos we hardly ever use them at school. people have unlocked their laptops, the just dont log on to the DETNSW thing but the det has picked up on this and confiscated some laptops but still there are the annoying guys at the back of the class that look up porn and ridiculous videos on youtube haha.

in this situation det= FAIL!

taylah4taylah4 March 25th, 2010
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why doesn't the government spend more money in buying a better laptop instead of doing all this annoying blocking which isn't really helping when the laptops aren't good. If i or anyone had alot of money they would buy the cheapest or most expensive yet useful and usable laptops that can be operated faster ,so there wouldn't be much lagging and therefore students can do homework faster with fast rams on computer without the hassling of "The LAGGING TIME".Seriously , i would spend more money on better laptops then security and blocking systems . Too much hassling for nothing is the meaning to tell you that the hassle is completely useless. Better laptops and what is the point of blocking when people in this world have brains to hack computer blocking/security or whatever

nobody010010010110010100nobody010010010110010100 April 4th, 2010
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I have scoured this thread for about 30 mins now and I havent found anything useful. It is just full of anonymous idiots talking about the Facist Department of Education and not to underestimate faggy 14/15 year olds.

/facepalm

I'm 15 myself, and I was wondering on how exactly to reset the admin password. Anyone know how?

TPangolinTPangolin April 6th, 2010
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www.projetd3t.com for hacks. TPANGION, im the one who posted the new admin access

bugmenotdodgeit.combugmenotdodgeit.com April 7th, 2010
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I am a student in Year 10. I have currently had my laptop for two terms (end of last year and first term this year). The filtering on the laptop is not entirely pointless, as some people are saying. There are actually positives to this thing, so I'm listing all the positives and negatives I have discovered about the laptops and general information about the laptop.
Ok, the filtering can be a pain, and sure you can't get to websites you need, but at least it's doing it's job, and you don't get kids going on Facebook and Myspace all the time.
The laptops were issued for educational purposes, and I think they are doing a pretty good job. It's so much easier then all the kids rushing to get on to a computer in the library or classroom, and then there isn't enough so kids have to double up, and in doing this, it drags down both students when using a Word document.
But then the games factor come in. The thumbdrives do actually work, and so kids are able to put small flash games on their laptop. But if the filter wasn't there, how many more games would be downloaded and installed, and how big would they be. People have attempted TAFE passwords, but these don't actually work on the laptops like they do on the normal computer at school.
To connect to the internet at school, there are wireless connections all over the school, the students connect to these automatically, open up the internet and put in their username and password. This isn't necessary when connecting outside of school. Currently, I'm at home, but everything that's blocked for me at school, is still blocked at home. So I'm presuming the filters are inside the actual laptop or something (I'm probably wrong, it's just a theory), and so no matter what, that filter follows you around. So even if someone was to try and bring a modem to school, it wouldn't work. So pretty much, you can't download games off the laptop's internet. Of course, taking into consideration about the fact that some people have been able to get past the filter, I can't explain, nor do I have a theory for that, unless that managed to open up the laptop or something.
So all this does actually have a purpose, it does help reduce gaming and socialising on the laptops.

So some people are complaining about getting to websites they need for educational resons but not being able to. They haven't had the laptops out for a really long time, and there are probably so many more important factors about the laptops the are trying to fix. Laptops that will be handed out this year, are an upgraded version, so maybe they have tweaked it so that you are able to get to these websites, of course, the first Year 9 (me) would not be receiving these upgrades, so we probably won't receive the changes in the filtering either (if my theory was right), so pretty much we've just got to try and work our way around it.

Personally, I think these laptops have been great, a little frustrating because I do learn better with paper and pen, but then I have that option still. I can still bring books and pens, and I do, just the books aren't as big as they used to be (Which is so much better), and I bring my laptop aswell. I use my laptop if there is something I have to type up, like an assignment. I usually write out my homework then type it up, and send it to the teacher. There is a much smaller problem of the old excuses such as, 'we ran out of ink in the printer', or 'my computer at home broke', in which the teacher would reply, 'go to the library and print it off', which is difficult sometimes, instead, students can just send in their work, which is more preferable in my classes, and if someone doesn't do it, they don't have that excuse, they would say 'I have no internet at home', reply, 'send it to me now', that way, the student either doesn't get in trouble, or is caught out for not doing their work. It's a win-win situation.
The laptops have so much installed on them, from photo editing to music applications to architectural designing.

I absolutely love the laptops, they are brilliant. I think people should be a bit more grateful for what they have been given. How many other places in the world are able to have things happen like this. People don't even get a chance at school let alone every single student in year 9 recieving a laptop, that works well, with a filter that does work, and so many extra things added on to the laptop to help education. Everyone in school and out should feel privileged to have these things.

leeonardo1leeonardo1 April 19th, 2010
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look, i just want a calendar (like OfficeCalendar or something) to be able to keep my time organised and i can't do that because they have blocked everything being downloaded. i get that they block youtube, facebook ... but an educational calendar?????

also, i have no idea how to change my password to the laptop, some people know it that i dont want to. I have tried changing the portal password but it doesn't work, please help

kylarookylaroo June 26th, 2010
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look, i just want a calendar (like OfficeCalendar or something) to be able to keep my time organised and i can't do that because they have blocked everything being downloaded. i get that they block youtube, facebook ... but an educational calendar?????

also, i have no idea how to change my password to the laptop, some people know it that i dont want to. I have tried changing the portal password but it doesn't work, please help

kylarookylaroo June 26th, 2010
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Did some poking around with command prompt with these laptops and found out that levono had made a bios just to serve DET's purposes. (If you wanted command prompt on these laptops, of course they hide it so just make your own with notepad.
@echo
command.com
Then save as cmd.bat.
Open it up.
The type in wmic bios get /format:list

We need to get around the bios password and change the boot order to usb so we can then do damage. Linux Shell :P..... Pfft "unbreakable" my ****!

someonethatknowssomeonethatknows August 10th, 2010
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lol unhackable my **** i've been accessing websites im not supposed to in 3 different ways for over eight months now. Even after they re-imaged our laptops, i hacked it all over again!!!!!!!!!!! That proves that the entire DET department is more dumb than an ordinary 15 year old kid. Besides, you can run exe. files if you save them in the right places *hint*

hahahahahaha fail DET pplhahahahahaha fail DET ppl October 27th, 2010
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Hey guys,
I figured out how to hack it within 2 weeks, there are lots of ways, im 14 :), but I do google this stuff of course, right now im on this site because its not blocked, I use TAFE accounts, there are proxy's that will get me onto facebook and other websites, im free!

So heres ways you can get into admin:
1) Remove the tamper evident sticker, I dont advise so I would not do it. If you do this you are guareenteed to get into the BIOS, but I dont have the guts to do this so.... yeah... but you can click on switches and stuff inside and reset the motherboards bios, and then your in! Then do what I say in (2)

2) If you can get a backdoor password or reset the bios password somehow you have pretty much got admin already, once you do reset it and get in, set the computer to boot from usb, put linux on a usb, as I have done, and run it, get a registry editor in wine, and then find autoadminlogon etc in windows registry, and your in, you are now an admin.

3) Also you dont have to put .exe in catroot anymore, it doesn't work, just run the computer in safemode and you can run .exe files again!

quentinquentin March 16th, 2011
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Pfft DET are just screwing around with this whole filter crap. All their doing is having every site on the internet blocked and unblocking anything they think is 'educational'. This is by far the laziest and most stupid idea I've heard of. There are so many websites that are educational and the DET are to **** lazy to stop eating their donuts and start doing something. Seriously they think they're system is 'un-crackable' while they completely forgot about running .exe files on safe mode. There are many .exe proxy anonymous programs on the web that you can run on safe-mode and completely bypass their pathetic little filter. The fact that its so easily to bypass it and their boasting about their 'great' achievement is just laughable.

CheezyMintzCheezyMintz May 22nd, 2011
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hahaha kinda funny/ironic how this page got turned from being about how 'great' and hackable the laptops are to being, a forum for 15 year kids to disccuss how to hack em

nad.nad. December 2nd, 2011
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*unhackable

nad.nad. December 2nd, 2011
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the hardware in the laptops shouldn't be messed with, and im pretty sure that they aren't talking about a physical filter. There is no 'password', the laptops are ust one big computer...soooo hacking anything is more than impossible...you need to break the main firewall ad you do that by steeling the administrators c-code and inserting it into your binary, then run lennix and nothing NOTHING will be blocked. but i got suspended for 21 days for doing it, and i got my laptopconfiscated

roflmao96roflmao96 December 19th, 2011
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