Windows Vista SP1 weighs in at 1GB

By Ina Fried, CNET News.com
30 August 2007 07:53 AM
Tags: microsoft, sp1, sp3, vista, windows, xp, vista sp1, xp sp3

Microsoft will release the first service pack for Windows Vista in Q1 2008 and the company has revealed that test versions of the update are currently 1GB; Redmond also admitted it is working on Windows XP SP3.

Microsoft will soon start testing a beta of Service Pack 1 for Vista as well as a third service pack for Windows XP. The company plans initially to release the Vista beta to 10,000 pre-selected testers, though it may expand that release later. A small group of testers are already working with a "beta preview" version.

As for what's in the Vista update, it's mostly a collection of existing fixes and tweaks aimed at improving stability and reliability of the operating system, which went on sale to consumers this January.

There are a few minor enhancements, most notably the ability to encrypt multiple hard drive partitions using Vista's BitLocker feature.

"Lots of folks gave feedback that 'We have an OS partition and a data partition and we'd like to encrypt both,'" Boettcher said.

Also being added are support for an emerging removable storage file format known as exFAT as well as for EFI (extensible firmware interface), an alternative to the BIOS (basic input output system) that handles the initial start-up of a system.

Vista SP1 will be a large download: Roughly 1GB, based on current test versions. By way of comparison, Windows XP -- the whole thing -- shipped on a CD, which only holds about three quarters of a gigabyte. Installing the OS upgrade will require 7GB of free hard drive space, though much of that will be returned to the user once the megapatch is applied, Microsoft said.

The key question is what, if any, impact the contents of the update or its timing will have on the plans of large businesses to move to Vista. IDC analyst Al Gillen predicted that it won't have that big of an effect.

"It doesn't fundamentally change the landscape for Windows Vista adoption," Gillen said.

Microsoft has set out ambitious goals for business adoption of Vista, saying it expected businesses to move to Vista in the first year at twice the rate they did with Windows XP.

Gillen said that businesses seem to be moving at generally the same pace as with previous releases.

As for the coming Windows XP update, Microsoft didn't give many details, but did say that it is planned to be the last significant update for the operating system, which debuted in October 2001.

"There's not a lot we have to say there," Boettcher said. "It's really an end-of-life (patch) roll-up for Windows XP."

Microsoft's largest prior discussion of the Vista service pack came in a June court filing, in which the company agreed to make changes to Vista's desktop search feature in response to complaints from Google. In the filing, Microsoft said the changes would come in SP1 and that a beta of the service pack would come this year.

On Tuesday, Mike Burk, a senior product manager at Microsoft, said that the desktop search changes would not be part of the beta, but rather would be added at a later date. On Wednesday, the company said the search changes will indeed come with SP1 beta when it enters testing in the next few weeks.

Aside from that, Microsoft steadfastly refused to comment on the service pack, except to say that there would be one. The company also maintained that service packs are not as important these days given all the updating of the operating system that Microsoft does online.

However, despite pleas from Microsoft that businesses need not wait for a service pack to adopt new releases, Boettcher acknowledged that the first service pack of major software releases remains a psychological milestone for some customers.

"It's not a perception that is going to change overnight," Boettcher said.

Microsoft has been increasingly delivering patches one at a time, via various online updating services, but not all customers want things a patch at a time. "Some folks like to see it all rolled up," Boettcher said. "You are going to see us continue to do that over time."

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Talkback 26 comments

    haha Anonymous -- 30/08/07

    genuine disadvantage, genuine bloatware.

    Time to emmigrate from Windowsia. *NIX permanent resident -- 30/08/07

    1 GB worth of fixes and more in the pipeline? Hahaha, that's shocking! Anyone who paid real cash money for Vista should feel suitably violated. That's like buying a Holden and two months later, after thousands of complaints, Holden announces a nation-wide recall because a third of the car's components are dodgy, missing or in need of an 'upgrade'.

    In terms of any other goods, you'd never buy from them again. For some reason however, M$ retains its market share in desktop OS software. But why? There are better alternatives.

    Maybe it's some form of stockholm syndrome, or low expectations, or lack of experience as to how much better OS's can be. I've emmigrated to a unix based OS and I can vouch that life is so much easier. So come on over, you'll never go back.

    Great! Anonymous -- 30/08/07 (in reply to #320085263)

    Dare I ask, can I use Pro-tools, Reason, Photoshop, Office, Dreamweaver and Visual Studio on your Unix system? Because I need them. I don't need programs LIKE them. I need THOSE programs. All of them.
    BTW, In your example, Ford (Apple) also regularly updates their "cars", and Datsun (Linux) sends you a new car that you don't want every six months, even though it's free.

    Get a mac Anonymous -- 30/08/07 (in reply to #320085269)

    You don't NEED anything pal - just your brain and hands to work the input devices. No-one needs MS to produce sound products. Make the switch, there are plenty of options, including mac which runs most of the above.

    Other OS' are different, yes. *NIX permanent resident -- 31/08/07 (in reply to #320085269)

    If the criteria for leaving is that everything on the other end has to be exactly the same; that's hardly leaving. Fortunately, in my new country we also have Pro Tools, Dreamweaver, Office, Photoshop & Reason, so the culture shock should be small.

    Secondly, if you HAVE to have Visual studio, it sounds as though that's a requirement of your workplace or some other form of vendor lock-in. In either case, it's a requirement, and not a choice. It sounds like you've made a 'Work Choices' type choice.

    You should still feel violated that you have to put up with all the guff that comes with using windows like 1GB(!) updates for the sake of something as functionally replaceable as .NET.

    Get the job done rather than enslave yourself to MS David Ashcombe -- 31/08/07 (in reply to #320085269)

    Yes patches are released by most vendors (such is the nature of software) but generally these are to solid products. Vista is a clunker - Seriously what are you doing differently/better on it compared to XP? Was it worth the wait/effort?

    MS succeeds only because people are willing to let themselves get locked in. Others have seen the light and realise vendors now provide alternatives/or versions on other platforms (or products that let them use their current apps on better platforms eg. VMWare Fusion on Apple MacOS X is great).

    Far too much time (and $) is spent making MS O/Ses work reliably, securely efficiently for supposedly out-of-the box experience for non-IT folk. If a vendor doesn't deliver I look at alternatives. The IT market shouldn't be any different. Don't lock youself in in the first place.

    OSX Brad -- 20/09/07 (in reply to #320085331)

    OSX crashes more than Windows does. I know, I own an iMac with OSX on board. Glad I got it second hand because it WASN'T worth the money spent.

    I'll add that I have a mate who has owned two Crapple laptops, one with Apple's processor and the other with Intel - Firefox crashes on both and Office crashes on one. He is a power-user so crashes are expected sometimes but not on a daily basis, leaving you with that eternal colourwheel that hardly ever responds to a forcekill.

    OSX is not the wonder OS that you guys think it is. Like any product it has strengths and weaknesses but it certainly is not superior to Windows overall. Windows is not dominant because it is perfect - like OSX, Windows is not perfect - Windows is dominant because it does a better job of being a total package. The beauty of it is that you can install it on any PC, there is an untold amount of software developed for it and it is in widespread use - making the cost of training people to use it much cheaper. I'll add that Apple's one button mouse is a dreadful device.

    APPLE and OSX GRANT BURTT -- 11/10/07 (in reply to #320086451)

    I own 9 Apple machines from nearly early to the latest model Desktop with the Intel 2X4 core Xeon CPU's what a waste of money it cant even run dual OSes Without crashing once or twice every few days. Apple is now simply disposable white goods like a microwave or an oven or a fridge or a dishwasher or an old white monitor.
    All crappy disposable white goods the only thing they are not good they are rubbish. When compared to A Well equipped Vista Machine. And 6 of their laptop machines

    I am a power user and now windows Vista Has more power user attributes than Crap I mean Mac but apple machines are not designed for power users they are designed to look good .That’s what they do (THEY JUST SIT THERE AND LOOK GOOD. However with the increased performance and stability of windows Vista and the wide spread application stable software i have given apple the flick (TRUST ME ) Apple are just what they are cracked up to be (good looking Plastic) Don’t get me wrong they look really really extremely good and they look fast and reliable but they are none of that they just simply look good. Hey when you want some thing that looks good Buy a Mac Totally. And put it in the house where every one can see it so you will look cool with your Mac Crapple White Good. Or stick it next to your fridge on the cupboard and while you’re at it paint the cupboard white.

    Why Vista is better... Duane Wills -- 01/09/07

    My two issues with Windows have and always will be security and overall performance. XP was insecure and got slower over time. Vista doesn't. UAC and DEP make it just as secure as a *NIX O/S. It may not be as mature of a code base, but that is what the patches and service packs are for. And, don't throw that Linux and Mac BS. I HATE the MacOS with a fiery passion. A list of options (Windows Pearl), a list of running apps (taskbar), and a notification area (system tray) are all I need and want. MacOS X blurrs a line that shouldn't be blurred. Linux (with SELinux, at least) just doesn't have the hardware support I need. (I know the Catch-22, but that doesn't make my webcam and cell phone work, does it?) And, there's still a lot of apps that aren't there. From the end user perspective, there is a place for all three. Neither will, nor should, dominate the desktop or the server. Everybody needs somebody nipping at their heels. I guarantee if it wasn't for Linux and MacOS X's *NIX underpinnings, Windows Vista would have been based on XP and would have run like ME. If Vista and MacOS didn't have the fun visuals, Compiz and Beryl wouldn't exist. The list goes on. For once, Microsoft did deliver. They delivered late, but they did. It could have been out on time, but it would have been another ME. UAC is no more intrusive than a root password or whatever Mac calls their identical feature. Vista RAM usage is mostly prefetch and overhead you get when you have to accommodate every video card on the market instead of the four that go into Macs. The whole DRM aspect is a non-issue for most consumers and will fade away before Windows 7 is released. However, UAC, IE Protected Mode, and the whole Windows Server basis will make XP look like trash just as soon as the application developers catch up with coding the way it should have been handled in the first place.

    Load of hogwash Anonymous -- 03/09/07 (in reply to #320085418)

    What a load. All the testing we have done forced us to throw it in the bin. In conjunction with office 2007, you need a full blown system to get it to run well, apps don't run on it well, its a memory hog and MS trys to have its way with us over its use. What a joke.
    I don't think you know what you are talking about.

    Not So ... Sean -- 11/09/07 (in reply to #320085471)

    Why does everyone keep whinging about vista's performance? If you're not installing it on a dinosour doorstop that you call your PC then there should be no problems.
    I recently bought a new laptop that had vista ultimate preinstalled.
    I use it as a development machine and it runs consistantly coldfusion 8, mysql 5.1, dreamweaver CS3, Fireworks CS3, Firefox 2 with at least 6 tabs open, Live messenger, calculator, etc, etc... all at the same time with no worries at all.
    When doing the same on my previous laptop running XP it would just become unresponsive and crash! hence the upgrade...

    Yes a 1gig service pack sounds excesssive, but like others have mentioned so is being pushed a whole new version every 6 months... tomato tomato

    I shouldn't have to... Anonymous -- 17/09/07 (in reply to #320085939)

    I shouldn't have to throw out a Pentium-M 1.7GHz Laptop with 1.5GB of RAM and 32MB ATI Radeon 7500 video card just so I can run an Operating System. I too find the Operating System ridiculously slow and unstable. If that's what you consider dinosaur, you're mental.

    For the record, I use both Windows XP and Ubuntu Desktop - Vista is installed for my application testing. I wouldn't completely ditch Windows, because my application requirements (this using Wine theory is stupid when I have a license for the OS)

    Yes Sean -- 19/09/07 (in reply to #320086301)

    That is actually what I consider a dinosaur because it in no way can compare to the computing standards available today. Your laptop has similar specs to what I threw in the bin a few months ago because it could no longer cut it. Ditching my old doorstop/laptop has increased my productivity by about 80-100%. Going from a Pentium-M 1.75GHz to a 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo is unbelievable, when you use them both extensively you really can notice the massive leaps in technology between the 2 and that is why I consider it a dinosaur.

    I shouldn't have to... Steve -- 25/09/07 (in reply to #320086301)

    I'm sure there were people who said 'I shouldn't have to throw out this perfectly good abacus just because this thing called a calculator has come along' and others who still say 'I shouldn't have to throw out my VCR just because hard disk/DVD recorders have come along' .... who's right? Depends on your perspective .... you if thats how you feel ... others if they feel that a 1.7Ghz Pentium M is old hat.

    By the way I am running Vista on a 1.7Ghz Pentium M with 1GB RAM and a 64MB ATI Radeon card with none of the 'ridiculously slow and unstable' issues that you describe ... so I guess one person's implementation DOESN'T equal anothers....

    Apple Yes Upgrade and get A new Bit Every 6 Months GRANT BURTT -- 11/10/07 (in reply to #320085939)

    I own 9 Apple machines from nearly early to the latest model Desktop with the Intel 2X4 core Xeon CPU's what a waste of money it cant even run dual OSes Without crashing once or twice every few days. Apple is now simply disposable white goods like a microwave or an oven or a fridge or a dishwasher or an old white monitor.
    All crappy disposable white goods the only thing they are not good they are rubbish. When compared to A Well equipped Vista Machine. And 6 of their laptop machines

    I am a power user and now windows Vista Has more power user attributes than Crap I mean Mac but apple machines are not designed for power users they are designed to look good .That’s what they do (THEY JUST SIT THERE AND LOOK GOOD. However with the increased performance and stability of windows Vista and the wide spread application stable software i have given apple the flick (TRUST ME ) Apple are just what they are cracked up to be (good looking Plastic) Don’t get me wrong they look really really extremely good and they look fast and reliable but they are none of that they just simply look good. Hey when you want some thing that looks good Buy a Mac Totally. And put it in the house where every one can see it so you will look cool with your Mac Crapple White Good. Or stick it next to your fridge on the cupboard and while you’re at it paint the cupboard white.

    READ THIS THIS IS THE STUFF GRANT BURTT -- 11/10/07 (in reply to #320085418)

    I COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE THIS IS THE MOST TRUTHFULL POST I HAVE EVER READ ALL READ THIS.

    Email me when you want to throw out old computers!!! Hamish Taylor -- 15/10/07 (in reply to #320087700)

    Hi

    Please email me when you want to throw out your old computers!!! I am a full-time post-grad IT student and would love some test machines, and I don't care about specs. Thanks, Hamish

    My email address Hamish -- 15/10/07 (in reply to #320088055)

    hamish.w.taylor AT gmail.com

    By the sounds of it... Anonymous -- 23/10/07 (in reply to #320088056)

    By the sounds of it, you can get some nifty 1.7GHz laptops from the guys above ^^^ considering they are all dinosaur and all :P I wouldn't mind some of these thrown out 1.7GHz's either :)

    Subject Sean -- 23/10/07 (in reply to #320088478)

    Like I mentioned in an earlier post: "Going from a Pentium-M 1.75GHz to a 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo is unbelievable, when you use them both extensively you really can notice the massive leaps in technology between the 2 and that is why I consider it a dinosaur."
    Read that and you will understand. It's like buying a car, sure there's some good older models out there but (depending on the make) would you rely on them as much as you would a newer one? The newer model will also have advancements like making the car faster, safer and better all round.
    Like someone else mentioned, one persons implementation doesn't equal another. The 1.7Ghz are simply a dinosaur for my needs because I've driven the newer model after using the older one for some time.

    download limit matt pinches -- 04/09/07

    i think the biggest issue with this is not going to be buisness, but the home, as this is where your new pc's are going home with vista live. in the buisness world we have licencing contracts that allow us to use xp or vista, we also have WSUS to push out these updates and enough bandwidth to cope with the first download.

    But at home we have families with a 256 k connection with 200meg of download limit. so after the 200 meg they either get a slower connection or they get charged.

    the outcome will be middle income families with either a huge ISP bill or unuseable internet for a month. Microsoft needs to distribute vista sp1 on dvd to every individual that has purchased vista.

    Not a bad idea... but... Anonymous -- 17/09/07 (in reply to #320085543)

    I believe Microsoft did this with previous service packs, so it's not like it wouldnt' be an option? Not only that, but most PC Magazines will have it included.

    Express install Andy Dowling -- 02/10/07 (in reply to #320085543)

    According to the overview on the Microsoft website, the express install will only be approximately 50mb. The 1Gb file that is mentioned is actually the standalone install file, which includes updates for all Vista versions in all languages.

    Re: Express install Kevin Jeyakanthat -- 06/10/07 (in reply to #320087081)

    For some reason I missed your post.
    Apologies for doubling up on the info

    What does the 1 gig contain Kevin Jeyakanthan -- 06/10/07

    Just for your info, the 1 GB service pack is the standalone version, which is mainly for Enterprises for volume upgrades, homes that do not have a internet and such. It contains all 36 languages and everything you would need to go from a clean install of Vista to Vista SP1.

    The majority of people will be getting their updates from Windows Auto Updates. This will roughly be around 50MB-60MB which is still a lot but XP SP2 was 110MB. It tries to be smart by scanning your machine and only including the patches you require to get you up to SP1 level.

    So really its not as big as some people make it out to be.

    I'm not going to get into any discussion about how good/bad it is other than to say I got Vista Ultimate when I threw out my 6 year old computer and am extremely happy with it.

    Vista runs fine with SSD disk Shauno -- 30/10/07

    Ive got a Sony TZ which is only a 1.2ghz centrino duo and 2GB ram. Its got a 48GB Solid state disk and I was really suprised at how well vista runs. The SSD makes all the difference.
    I was very sceptical of Vista and run XP and Linux at work and was going to install XP on this but it seems ok so far so might stick with it.

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