Why Linux isn't ready for desktops

Asa Dotzler, Mozilla Foundation commentary After reading Massimo Sandal's recent article, The Firefox Target And The TuxMini, I knew I was going to be in trouble because I just had to blog my contrary position.

This isn't a point by point reply to Sandal's article, but rather a more general disagreement based on my experiences with Linux, Mozilla and Firefox.

It's probably worth pointing out that I'm not a "Linux person." I've only been using Linux for about six years. I've been using Windows for about twice that long, and I've been using Macintosh for about 20 years. I'm not really loyal to any one OS; I've used what my employer or school offered or required and when that wasn't a consideration I've used what I thought was most convenient.

OK. So what's wrong with Linux that makes it not ready for the desktop?

I've tried KDE and Gnome desktops but my latest is FC4 so my criticism is focused on that (and Gnome) but I think KDE distributions suffer just as bad if not worse. The issues fall into four basic categories: migration, stability, simplicity, and comfort. These issues each cover both technical capability shortcomings as well as usability failings.

The first issue, migration, is pretty serious.

For "regular people" to adopt Linux (which usually means leaving Windows), it is going to need a serious migration plan. The OS will need to install on machines next to Windows, leaving that completely intact and easy to return to, and carry over all or nearly all of the user's data and settings.

These users may be willing to take a look at Linux, but as long as all of their data and settings still 'lives' in Windows, they're not going to stay very long no matter how appealing it might be. We learned this lesson in the Mozilla world. It wasn't until we implemented a very capable migration system in Firefox, which carried over the user's IE favourites, cookies, history, passwords, etc, that regular people started moving over in serious numbers -- and staying (and bringing others over). Linux needs to do the same.

It's clearly a much bigger task for an entire OS and all of its major applications to accomplish, but it simply has to be done.

When normal users fire up the Linux desktop for the first time, the browser, office suite, e-mail client, instant messenger client, file manager ... each need to carry over as much as possible -- from the Windows application settings to all or very nearly all of the user data. Without this, the hill is just too steep to climb and these users will not make the climb.

The second problem that blocks massive Linux desktop growth is stability.

I don't mean the "not crashing" kind of stability. I'm talking about a stable API that doesn't require the user jump through hoops when they want to download a new application from Download.com.

A user should be able to install Fedora Core 4 and go grab the latest Firefox release from Download.com and have it work without the need for finding and installing compat-libstdc++ or whatever.

Developers may think it's cool to reuse as much code as possible but the user doesn't care whether it was Linux that failed to include the necessary compatibility components or Mozilla that failed to make the build work for that particular dot release of libstdc++.

Regular users expect to be able to download software, install it, and have it just work. Asking them to figure out complex system library and kernel compatibility issues is a one way ticket off of their desktop.

The third issue is a lack of simplicity.

Just because you can include a feature doesn't mean that you should. Just because you can provide a user preference doesn't mean you should.

I don't want to start a desktop war but I really gotta say to the distros, pick a desktop and be happy. Normal users shouldn't have to (guess or learn enough to) choose between Gnome and KDE when they're installing your product. They don't need 15 to 20 mediocre games in a highly visible Games menu at the top of the Applications list.

And what is a user to think when confronted with a choice between Helix Player, CD Player, and Music Player? Does the Music Player not understand CDs? What's "Helix" mean? Gedit has about 30 user preferences spread across 5 tabs in a preferences window; Notepad has about three.

You and I know that the difference between Settings and Preferences is that one is system wide and one is per-user but regular users don't know that and shouldn't need to know that. If they don't have access to it because it's a system wide setting, then why put that entire menu of options in front of him? If normal users have equal access to both, then why are they split? It's just a confusing mess.

The final major issue is comfort.

Linux must feel comfortable to Windows users. Most people using computers today have been at it for a while now and they've been at it on Windows. Don't mess with their basic understanding of how things work. Regular people do not know what it means to "mount a drive" and they shouldn't have to.

They don't want their OK and Cancel buttons reversed -- tossing out years of finely-tuned muscle memory. They shouldn't have to learn what /home means or how it differs from My Documents. They don't want two clipboards that seem to constantly overwrite each other.

Linux UI fundamentals need a reworking to match the habits that Windows users have been building over the last decade. Get the users first, then try to teach them a better way (if you've have one). Putting things in the "right" place for Windows users will go a long way. You can never do too much to ease the transition.

I think of Linux today the way I think of Mozilla 1.0 from just a few years ago: a very capable product with a very limited audience. If Linux makes major inroads on the desktop, it will probably be as a result of the same kind of focus that put Firefox on tens of millions of desktops, a focus on migration, stability, simplicity, and comfort.

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  1. Linux is ready for the desktop. The major computer manufacturers are protecting Microsoft's desktop monopoly.That's the main reason holding Linux back. Don't buy from them if you care about choice. If you look hard enoug Anonymous -- 18/07/05

    Linux is ready for the desktop.

    The major computer manufacturers are protecting Microsoft's desktop monopoly.That's the main reason
    holding Linux back.

    Don't buy from them if you care about choice.

    If you look hard enough you can find smaller companies that do offer a choice other than Microsoft.

  2. Oh god, here come the conspiracy theories. Did you READ the article, anonymous? It said Linux is preventing istelf from succeeding on the desktop because it fails to provide a migration path for Windows users, changes too often, is too complicated and is Anonymous -- 18/07/05

    Oh god, here come the conspiracy theories. Did you READ the article, anonymous? It said Linux is preventing istelf from succeeding on the desktop because it fails to provide a migration path for Windows users, changes too often, is too complicated and is needlessly and deliberately obscure and different to other operating systems users are familiar with.
    No conspiracy of computer manufacturers. No litany of "factual" and "logical" errors to get indignant about. No evil Micro$oft bribing journalists or secretly commissioning analyst reports. Just an informed article written by someone who works for a company that writes open source software.
    Linux on the desktop is still a toy operating system for tinkerers. Why don't all the pimply, pubsecent posters who are going to get outraged about this instead devote their energies to go and write a decent operating system?

    1. Oh dear Anonymous -- 09/08/05

      Now this is one interesting comment. We need to use each OS for its strengths. Windows is a great desktop OS for home and easy user friendly access to applications - however this is changing. The days are limited for the fat client install application. Before you know it we will be spending most of our time within a web browser... Then it will not matter what desktop OS we are using. Oh yes almost forgot, windows is also great for games... but I use Linux for everything else. :-)

  3. > Just an informed article written by someone who works for a company that writes open source software. Informed? You mean from the guy that picks Fedora and judges the fate of the Linux desktop? The distro for community and by community in t Anonymous -- 18/07/05

    > Just an informed article written by someone who works for a company that writes open source software.

    Informed? You mean from the guy that picks Fedora and judges the fate of the Linux desktop? The distro for community and by community in the constant state of flux? The one where in version 4 major improvements includes server side technologies like GFS, clustering and Xen? Yeah, that's informed.

    And what's he moaning on about software installs without knowing how it's done in Fedora at all? What's with the blather about download.com?

    Next thing you know, I'll be writing articles about nuclear physics :-)

    If he doesn't like Linux on his desktop, he's free to give it a pass. In the meantime, the community and companies will keep improving it for the rest of us that know how to use it. Sure there are things that suck and don't work the way they should. That doesn't mean we should listen to someone that has no clue about it.

    1. He's right though Anonymous -- 09/08/05

      Ironically, most of us linux noobs don't actually want to spend 5 days trying to set up a computer and figure out how to use it! I need a system that is running in less than a day so i can keep working, and at the same time I want to be able to have a broad level of control over my OS. Windows might be old and flawed, but at least I can reformat and have a clean install in less than 2 hours if anything goes wrong. In Linux you have to worry about RPM files and collections and all that crap that never actually 'just works' when you're new on the scene. Thats why I tried Linux and moved back, because I felt as though half the stuff was written for all the uber-geeks out there and i didn't know the first thing about it.

    2. Installing under Debian is easier than baking an egg Anonymous -- 27/08/05

      Well, I installed Libranet Linux, a Debian-based distro, which completed in a few hours. Also, installing stuff in Debian is WAY easier than everywhere else. You fire up a program, give it the name of the package you want to install (and I don't mean like mozilla-firefox_1.45.23_libstdc++3.4, but just mozilla-firefox), and it'll take care of installing dependencies like libstdc++ itself. You just enter

      apt-get install mozilla-firefox

      on a command line, you wait until the download has completed and you fire up Firefox. You don't have to go find the download location, you don't have to go through installation wizards, nothing. That's the Debian way of doing stuff, in other words, easy.

    3. no, not easy Anonymous -- 23/09/05

      many faithfull windows users have never even heard of the word console, let alone Apt get, or how to install in linux, event this way, which you call simple.

      i migrated to mandriva linux a little while ago, they use RPMS that can be installed by double clicking on them just like you do in windows.

      THAT is easy.

  4. My wife and I are using both Linux and Windows. I used to be an IT staffmember, she used to be a computer-illiterate. Her comment is very true. Both Windows and Linux are user-unfriendly, both are a menace to use if just want Anonymous -- 18/07/05

    My wife and I are using both Linux and Windows.
    I used to be an IT staffmember, she used to be a computer-illiterate.

    Her comment is very true.

    Both Windows and Linux are user-unfriendly,
    both are a menace to use if just want work done.

    Bets thing to do is not to copy Windows but take more from Apple which is and alway was more userfriendly.

    IT professionals should listen a bit more to simple users.

  5. "Linux must feel comfortable to Windows users." And right there is the flaw that makes the rest of the article irrelevant. Go get Lindows. Anonymous -- 18/07/05

    "Linux must feel comfortable to Windows users."

    And right there is the flaw that makes the rest of the article irrelevant. Go get Lindows.

  6. I have to disagree with you on your thinking that Linux is not ready for the desktop. IF you had said Fedora Core 4 was not ready for the desktop, I would agree. I personally have never thought any Redhat is for the desktop, just mainly for servers. Fo Anonymous -- 18/07/05

    I have to disagree with you on your thinking that Linux is not ready for the desktop. IF you had said Fedora Core 4 was not ready for the desktop, I would agree. I personally have never thought any Redhat is for the desktop, just mainly for servers. For the desktop I would choice Suse 9.3, which is what I install and have found most clients adopt rather easily, Ubuntu, or even Linspire. Just like Microsoft targets differant versions of Windows to differant markets, linux is, perhaps without knowing it, down the same way. Now this all is based on the fact a person either will not or can not purchase a Mac, Mac mini anyone. If they can do as I did, and go from Linux Suse, I still have a box, to a Mac, and have the best of both worlds

  7. Interesting: considering that I am using Linux as my desktop even as I write this brief feedback, but then again, we need this dielectic trite between these two camps to benefit whom? I have been familiarizing myself with GNU/Linux since RedHat 5.0 and h Anonymous -- 18/07/05

    Interesting: considering that I am using Linux as my desktop even as I write this brief feedback, but then again, we need this dielectic trite between these two camps to benefit whom? I have been familiarizing myself with GNU/Linux since RedHat 5.0 and have been using windows since MS-DOS but who's is counting: I cannot tell the number of times I have had to reboot, reinstall, rely upon tech support, recall windows just to get their products to work, but who is counting: I cannot say what would be the result, (i.e. If GNU/Linux or Windows would dominate) if the install OS was done by choice but then again, can you?

  8. Lets ger rid of the myth's. First of all Linux have been ready for the desktop atleast one year. 1. My grandma can install Linux whithout problem. Can she put in a DVD in the dvd/cd tray. oh yes she can. We have kids in school who can Anonymous -- 18/07/05

    Lets ger rid of the myth's. First of all Linux have been ready for the desktop atleast one year.

    1. My grandma can install Linux whithout problem.
    Can she put in a DVD in the dvd/cd tray.
    oh yes she can. We have kids in school who can by themself install a complete webserver.

    2. KDE, Gnome and so. Are as easy as Windows. I can put anyone infront of it and they handle KDE/Gnome in a matter of seconds.

    3. Software. Today there are no software that Linux lacks. You can replace every expensive Windows/Microsoft product whith an opensource one.

    So why isn't Linux gaining so much ground on desktop then ?

    Well the most important thing is that Microsoft still have the monopoly in the desktop market. The customer still can't choose what OS they would like to have pre installed. Second. RPM install still lacks behind the beutiful APT-GET method of installation/upgrade. Third. There is still no real movemment in the desktop market. There is a huge need of commercials, mouth to mouth and action against Microsoft.

    So take action. Refuse to repair virus infected bloatware Windows. 'Force' your customers to try out Linux. Make small education event how to use the Linux desktop. Have seminars how to switch from buggy Windows to Linux and so on.

    Its time to make a change;

  9. What a crock. Too many settings. Waaa. Cancel button in looks like its in the wrong place. Waaa. New software needs libraries to be updated. Waaa. Windows settings are automatically loaded into linux. Waaa Waaa. The fact is the auth Anonymous -- 18/07/05

    What a crock.

    Too many settings. Waaa. Cancel button in looks like its in the wrong place. Waaa. New software needs libraries to be updated. Waaa. Windows settings are automatically loaded into linux. Waaa Waaa.

    The fact is the author wants what nobody else does. Windows running on a linux kernel. Linux is different for a reason - and lots of time spent learning to do things the windows way is lots of time wasted with respect to linux.

    So what?

    I'm tired of boring articles stating the mass of computer using zombies wants things simpler.

    These people don't need an upgrade to their OS - they need to upgrade their brains.

    1. Usability Anonymous -- 02/08/05

      Are you a software designer? 'Cos you are so wrong.

      If you ever considered the aspects of software design, you'll see that it's not the people that has to get around the software, it's your software that has to get around the people.

      In this case here, there is a huge issue at hand: the mass migration of Windows users to *nix platforms. If you want to, put in an option to switch your OK and Cancel buttons but for goodness sake do not ever, Ever, EVER say that the next person who can't use your software when you can is an idiot.

      That's not service. Design for the people.

    2. Yes.. but you can get used to it Anonymous -- 03/08/05

      A point of a program is do one or maybe two things.. otherwise its not a program, its a mess. If you to do multiple things then you can create a shell script. People (normal people that is) dont care where anything is (especially some buttons), as long as it does wats its suppose to. Thats why console apps are much better.

    3. Reply to John D Brown Anonymous -- 04/08/05

      You clearly have no interest in Linux succeeding.

      This is the smartest article I have read on this issue.

      This guy helped make Firefox an application that I could use. I was a Unix adminstrator 20 years ago. I architect complex business systems now. I want to save my time and effort for things that really matter - not struggling with installing apps or OS.

    4. What a crock indeed Anonymous -- 10/08/05

      Soooo... What you're saying is that you want everyone to be able to choose the OS that they want or that is suitable to their level of knowledge... As long as they choose what you say is better cos if they pick anything else they're idiots?
      You wouldn't happen to be one of those people who hang around in forums and whinge about how Linux doesn't have anywhere near the hold of the desktop market that "rightfully belongs to it" would you?
      The writer of this article is absolutely right, these things are exactly what is needed for Linux to succeed. The strength of Linux is that all that is needed is for a single distribution to be like this.. You could then keep on with Gentoo, Slackware, LFS or whatever else you'd like to, but the ordinary user needs an OS he can easily use for his web-browsing, document editing, emailing and occasional gaming without having to read thick books about Kernel Comilation or something else.
      Face it, either Linux remains the way it is now, a relatively small player on the desktop market, or changes to suit the consumer.. It is after all just an OS.. And tries to stand up to the domination of MS... I personally am hoping for the latter, and I firmly believe that distributions such as Xandros are a big step in the right direction.

  10. I disagree with most of what Asa's article says. Linux CAN'T be used the same way you use Windows simply because the philosophy of Linux is DIFFERENT. I've been a Linux user for about 5 years now. I definetely abandoned MS Windows over two years ago and I Anonymous -- 18/07/05

    I disagree with most of what Asa's article says. Linux CAN'T be used the same way you use Windows simply because the philosophy of Linux is DIFFERENT. I've been a Linux user for about 5 years now. I definetely abandoned MS Windows over two years ago and I don't miss it at all (exept for the games, perhaps). Currently I'm using Libranet Linux, which is very easy to use.
    Windows is made for people who want their work done easly, while Linux is made for people who want to fully control their machine and don't want to worry about system failures or viruses.
    On Linux, you don't "install" programs. You compile them and copy the spawned files into the proper directories. To "uninstall", you just delete those three-four files, period. Can it be easier? Yes, if you want an automated system that works without telling you what's going on (just as Windows does). Windows users know the consequences.
    Miss a library? Dependencies problems? Better those rather than software conflicts and system instability, typical of Windows. The former problem, with a bit of patience, can be always easly solved, while the latter.... well, you all know the drill.
    The power of Linux is based on its TOTAL configurability. You can configure and tweak every aspect of your system, down to its very behaviour, something impossible to do with "easier" OS'. Obviously, that implies a different approach to computers which can't be for computers dummies (those who use the computers just to surf the web, play games and write stuff with MS Word or equivalent).
    Surfing the web to install new programs is a Windows/Mac thing. Unix/Solaris/Linux users rely on repositories to aquire their needed packages (.deb, .rpm, .tar.gz, etc.). Again, it's a different philosophy, a completely different approach to your desktop system. Personally, I don't miss Windows at all. Ok, sometimes I may find annoying the fact that I need to resolve some dependencies to compile and use a program I want badly. But, I don't consider myself to be a lazy person...
    To me, Linux IS ready for desktops. It's just a matter of who uses it. Obviously, I'd never recomend it to my grandma. For people like her, Mac OS-X is the best way to go. ;-)

    1. Is Linux ready Brendan Falvey -- 20/04/06

      I am a Windows system user and when time permits plan to learn linux. I also believe that microsoft needs the other systems to keep them honest. I also use Firefox and Thunderbird in preference to IE and Outlook

      I believe you missed the point Asa made that installation should be easier. You made the point you want total control (reminds me a bit of DOS days)and it is helpful to people like us with a degree of proficiency in managing OSs. However, we are a minority most users out there just want to load and go from there no wandering off to locate a repository etc.

      The reason Windows is at the top of the pile is that Bill gave users particularly corporate user what they wanted load and run it out of the box with very little intervention. Corporate users are very sensitive to costs and Windows was found to be cheaper than unix based systems.
      The problem with unix was not the system it was based on a model derived from mainframe days where you got your customer and sucked him dry on support and maintenance.

      Cheap hardware and a flexible approach to implementation won not necessarily the best technical system
      Remember corporate systems decide the new directions and cost is a major driver. Also make it simple for the end user and that gets you more takers.
      Remember the NT core was developed by 2 Unix programmers.

      Unix ran on purpose built boxes hence the stability was expected. However,I still marvel that you can go and grab a box of assorted bits from a market build the computer, load windows and invariably works unless there is a hardware problem.

      NT was designed to be hardware platform independent unix and apple fossilised as they hung onto their preferred options
      Linux not being a child of large companies was able to make the break to platform independence even apple has made the move.

      I am no fan of Intel my preference was the PowerPC or AMD
      Is Linux ready yes but not for the average end user. We do need diversity in OS, software and hardware not the old IBM mainframe model

  11. I migrated to Mozilla Firefox a few months ago, from IE, and it's worked fine since. The migration process worked, I didn't need to know anything or decide anything, except that, yes, I did want all my IE settings transferred. Linux - I've been Anonymous -- 18/07/05

    I migrated to Mozilla Firefox a few months ago, from IE, and it's worked fine since. The migration process worked, I didn't need to know anything or decide anything, except that, yes, I did want all my IE settings transferred.

    Linux - I've been pondering switching from XP, but, having just seen this article, I'm definitely put off, and I'm a reasonably experienced desktop user. I really do need a simple migration process, otherwise I won't do it, and nor, I imagine, will anyone else. Thanks for the article, you've possibly saved me a lot of headaches!

    1. Dont listen to him.. Andrey Semenov -- 03/08/05

      Hey, this guy is just a noob.. he doesnt know how to use a computer so he uses windows :P

      If youre experienced desktop user (know how to use a command line well, how to edit all config files from windows directory and registry) then you can easily migrate (pick Gentoo linux)

    2. gentoo arch lochh -- 05/08/05

      I wouldnt recommend gentoo one because you have to compile everything. If you want something very easy to use and installs things very fast and find all the packages you want you probaly want to get ubuntulinux ( http://ubuntulinux.org ) Or if your experienced with command lines give slackware a try. I use slackware right now and find it the most stable.

    3. gentoo arch lochh -- 05/08/05

      I wouldnt recommend gentoo one because you have to compile everything. If you want something very easy to use and installs things very fast and find all the packages you want you probaly want to get ubuntulinux ( http://ubuntulinux.org ) Or if your experienced with command lines give slackware a try. I use slackware right now and find it the most stable.

    4. gentoo arch lochh -- 05/08/05

      I wouldnt recommend gentoo one because you have to compile everything. If you want something very easy to use and installs things very fast and find all the packages you want you probaly want to get ubuntulinux ( http://ubuntulinux.org ) Or if your experienced with command lines give slackware a try. I use slackware right now and find it the most stable.

  12. Compile code, move files etc etc. Sorry Mate that isn't what a novice home user wants to do...they don't care less about this stuff. They want a CD or download a program hit install and have it operational. It is fine for the geek world to compile code, c Anonymous -- 18/07/05

    Compile code, move files etc etc. Sorry Mate that isn't what a novice home user wants to do...they don't care less about this stuff. They want a CD or download a program hit install and have it operational. It is fine for the geek world to compile code, copy it about multiple directories etc etc but in a home or commerial use world this just isn't appropraite.

    In fact you have just put yourself out of business if I had to pay for your flavour of linux. Return on investment, Cost of operation has to concider every aspect of owning an application. If your is manual and process required versus automated install and manage you will never win. You have to forget your tinkering background and focus on what is important especially in a corporate world. 1st Applications that work 2 Applications that integrate with all Applications around them 3 ability to deply and manage them without lots of manual intervention. 4 Ability to train users in the applications so they can become self sufficiant. Whilst there is no one platform that can offer all this, some do it much better than others.

  13. I would agree only to certain aspects. 1) UI of Windows and Gnome or KDE might be different but thats because people had been used to it. Right from your school you use Windows so generally we feel that windows is easy to use. 2) Updates and in Anonymous -- 18/07/05

    I would agree only to certain aspects.
    1) UI of Windows and Gnome or KDE might be different but thats because people had been used to it. Right from your school you use Windows so generally we feel that windows is easy to use.
    2) Updates and installing new packages this days is fairly simple. You got a very good synaptic package manager which is very much similar to Windows Add/Remove programs. (Infact handles things better). Also apt-get rocks.
    3) You can't judge OS with one release. Try Ubuntu. I had been using RedHat since version 5. Recently 3 months ago I shifted to Ubuntu on my desktop and it seems to me a perfect desktop.
    4) Only the drawback of Linux in desktop environment is the hardware devices support. Support for Digital Cameras, Video Cameras and Multifunction printers is not available from all the vendors. Here again I see they support the OS which people are using more. So if people start using more Linux and there arises demand for support for this H/W on Linux they will have to start providing the same.

    Last but not least after all its the security that this OS provides when on Internet. Running Linux meaning I don't have to worry about viruses and Trojans atleast on my computer.

  14. This article has it all wrong. This writer is implying that normal people need some kind of migration wizard and a windows look so on and so forth. I ask why this kind of crap is needed when microsoft does not realistically have these features in its own Anonymous -- 18/07/05

    This article has it all wrong. This writer is implying that normal people need some kind of migration wizard and a windows look so on and so forth. I ask why this kind of crap is needed when microsoft does not realistically have these features in its own product. Lets face the real facts: the type of people who would need these unnecissary features are the same persons who would never use anything other than what comes with their computer originally. They are incapable of installing ANY operating system, so please do not attempt to scare off those who could easily make linux work for them. This guy is too much a programmer and too little a sysadmin. Don't assume need or difficulty where there is none; what Linux needs is a spot on the major vendors desktop slot. It won't be 'ready for the desktop' until then, and that's up to the community at large instead of the developers.

  15. Excellent! Absolutely correct! Anonymous -- 18/07/05

    Excellent! Absolutely correct!

  16. I couldn't agree more with this article. I've read most of the articles and I find that the comments made are from 99.9% IT Professionals. I myself am an IT Professional and I'm also upset with some of the points made. You have to view this article from a Anonymous -- 19/07/05

    I couldn't agree more with this article. I've read most of the articles and I find that the comments made are from 99.9% IT Professionals. I myself am an IT Professional and I'm also upset with some of the points made. You have to view this article from a Marketing perspective. If you want people who have been using Windows or not using a computer at all to become Linux users. You have to make it simple. Let's face it, when Linux boots, what do you see, all kinds command line parameters being loaded. WHO THE F#$* CARES!!!! next thing, when you install software, IT SHOULD JUST WORK!!!! oh god, if Firefox needs a component, WHY DOESN'T LINUX ALREADY HAVE IT!!! better yet WHY DIDN'T FIREFOX ADD IT TO THE INSTALL!!! Oh this is my favorite one of all time.

    Question: "I can't find drivers for my hardware." Response: "Then your gonna have to write them."

    WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!! Are you telling me I have to write drivers for my hardware to work. Excuse me, um... you expect people to become software architects just so there soundcard will work in Linux. This response got my linux slackware cd install thrown out the window. Windows may have it's problems, but it closest to a user-friendly system running on an IBM-PC today.

  17. Try a different distro! I use SuSE Linux and things get better with every release. Anonymous -- 19/07/05

    Try a different distro!

    I use SuSE Linux and things get better with every release.

  18. I have to disagree with you on your thinking that Linux is not ready for the desktop. IF you had said Fedora Core 4 was not ready for the desktop, I would agree. I personally have never thought any Redhat is for the desktop, just mainly for servers. Fo Anonymous -- 19/07/05

    I have to disagree with you on your thinking that Linux is not ready for the desktop. IF you had said Fedora Core 4 was not ready for the desktop, I would agree. I personally have never thought any Redhat is for the desktop, just mainly for servers. For the desktop I would choice Suse 9.3, which is what I install and have found most clients adopt rather easily, Ubuntu, or even Linspire. Just like Microsoft targets differant versions of Windows to differant markets, linux is, perhaps without knowing it, down the same way. Now this all is based on the fact a person either will not or can not purchase a Mac, Mac mini anyone. If they can do as I did, and go from Linux Suse, I still have a box, to a Mac, and have the best of both worlds

  19. If everything was implemented into GNU/Linux that Asa wanted it would be a bloated piece of crap like Windows. GNU/Linux, like any OS, is a work-in-progress and it gets better every day. The solution to Asa's problem is really very si Anonymous -- 19/07/05

    If everything was implemented into GNU/Linux that Asa wanted it would be a bloated piece of crap like Windows.

    GNU/Linux, like any OS, is a work-in-progress and it gets better every day.

    The solution to Asa's problem is really very simple: if you don't like GNU/Linux, don't use it.

    Last time I checked, the only OS that anyone is trying to force you to use is Microsoft Windows.

  20. Compile???? Call in the "Myth Busters". I've been using Linux for 11 Years. I have NEVER NEEDED to compile anything. That is just a FUD tactic from the Microsoft crowd or people that don't know what they are talking abou Anonymous -- 19/07/05

    Compile???? Call in the "Myth Busters".

    I've been using Linux for 11 Years.
    I have NEVER NEEDED to compile anything.

    That is just a FUD tactic from the Microsoft crowd or people that don't know what they are talking about.

    I CAN compile any part of a Linux distro IF I WANT TO, if I want to squeeze out a little more performance.

    I used Debian Linux. To add and remove software applications I use synaptic.

    http://www.nongnu.org/synaptic/action.html

    Synaptic is a dead simple point-and-click interface that automatically resolves dependencies.
    A nice side effect of synaptic is that it patches your machine up to date.

  21. Saying that Linux isn't ready for the desktop after you've only tested Fedora Core 4, is flawed because it leaves out all those other distributions which work in very different ways. Fedora Core is primarily a server system, and furthermore, it's also a Anonymous -- 19/07/05

    Saying that Linux isn't ready for the desktop after you've only tested Fedora Core 4, is flawed because it leaves out all those other distributions which work in very different ways. Fedora Core is primarily a server system, and furthermore, it's also a "geek system", aimed squarely at developers and tinkerers.

    You don't mention having tried any of the distributions actually *aimed* at the desktop either, so your conclusions are inevitably flawed. I wonder if you have actually tried Ubuntu, Knoppix, Mandriva or PCLinuxOS. These distributions, some of which run without having to install to your hard disk, I might add, are all very user-friendly - I actually think that Ubuntu exceeds the usability of Windows, in many ways.

    You groan about how hard it is to install software on Linux - without apparently realising or knowing how this is usually done - on Ubuntu (as with most Debian based distros) you have a menu item called "Synaptic Package Manager" which installs and /or un-installs programs and utilities. It works out all your dependencies (such as your "compat-libstdc++") for you, and then downloads and installs the whole lot in one go. Download.com is for Windows - and it's precisely because of all the problems with the Windows approach, that things like Synaptic exist. You can't tell me you never downloaded a windows program only to find you needed the latest or greatest .dll to get it to run, and have never had another program that used to work die when you install a simple utility. Never had to tweak registry settings either? Unlikely.

    The biggest difference between Linux and Windows is that you *can* tweak things if you want to. Different distros allow different degrees of this
    through the GUI, but underneath, they are usually pretty similar - closer than, say Win98 and WinXP, for sure. Ok, it's a given that you can use regedit to hack windows into shape, but that's no different in principle from editing a file in /etc - something that novices should not attempt.

    Making Linux easy in the Windows sense would lead to exactly the situation we have on Windows today: a constant barrage of Viruses, Worms, Spyware and patches. Linux is easy: just not in the same way as Windows, and for very important reasons. Just because Windows is dominant, it doesn't mean that Linux has to follow in it's mistakes (like hooking Internet Explorer into the kernel so that it's easier to write all sorts of malware) - many of the so-called innovations in Windows are responsible for it's crackability.

    With regard to the comfort issue, it's not about being as comfortable as Windows; it's more about just *being* comfortable. When people decide to check out a different system, they're going to expect it to *be* different. If it wasn't different, then they'd probably feel cheated. Actually, to many people, Linux *is* comfortable - and more so than Windows. It's subjective, and depends on how you like to work. Windows dictates this much more than Linux, where you have a choice, and aren't tied to what someone else has told you it should be like: that's why there *are* alternatives.

    Personally, I'll be relieved on the day that Windows is ready for the Internet, but I'm not holding my breath.

    I have several "customers" (friends) who now run Linux - Ubuntu and Mandrake. They're more than happy with it - they don't miss the viruses, worms and spyware at all - and they're all reformed non-techie windows users, too.

    Personally, I'd say it's best to judge by results rather than opinion: I used to have to regularly de-louse these systems, until I cured the ailment at source. One system has been in for 18 months, and only one call - to remove a load of pennies inserted through a gap in the front bezel by a baby!

    -cybervegan

  22. Good God! You close-minded fools! I have read through your numerous negative critiques on this article. It is quite apparent that ALL of you have missed the boat on this article. Instead you have gone on the defensive of your precious Linux OS's Anonymous -- 19/07/05

    Good God! You close-minded fools!
    I have read through your numerous negative critiques on this article. It is quite apparent that ALL of you have missed the boat on this article. Instead you have gone on the defensive of your precious Linux OS's. How dare anyone threaten your baby with the perception that it may be "inadequate" in some way to a Microsoft or Mac product!

    Give me a break! I am sick of seeing so much sabre rattling and chest-puffing. Asa was merely trying to draw from the reasons for Firefox breaking into the browser market. And they are indeed valid. His main point is that the Linux collective brain-trust does not cater to the major user-base.

    Nearly every one of you blabbed on in the defense of Linux with lines like, "I've been using Linux for blah blah years" or "I've taken the time to learn Linux and I'll never turn back blah blah blah".

    I'm a systems administrator of a large network and it'll be a cold day in hell when I hear those words come from anyone in the accounting department, or the support department, or any department at that. Jane Doe from accounting who has 3 kids and a full-time job with deadlines looming is really going to stop everything and hunker down and learn a new "philosophy" of operating systems. Or fight with data portability.

    I myself am a strong supporter of Linux and use it to run the entire backend infrastructure of my network(as in the end-user doesn't know the difference). And I do believe that one day it may become a viable alternative. But like Asa stated LINUX IT IS NOT READY YET!!!

    We live in a Windows (and lesser extent Mac) desktop world. There is no clean slate of users to start with. And the main stream users (those that make Mr. Gates a very wealthy man) NEED to be catered to (as Firefox has and continues to do). Get off your high Fedora,SuSe,whatever horses and take a non-technical/market viability analysis on the situation.

    1. The time is not there yet Anonymous -- 05/08/05

      I couldn't agree more with what you are saying.
      I personally love to work with linux, mainly on servers but also on Desktop machines. But on the Desktop it still lacks the stability as described in the article.
      I think the broad variety of Linux Distros is one of the major drawbacks of Linux.
      As already stated, you just can't go to download.com and get your software, install it and you're done.
      It may take hours to get on specific software on your system.
      Windows XP finally has a real good Plug and Play System.
      You will hardly get this from Linux out of the box. And if your hardware is too new you're probably out of luck...
      I couldn't recommend Linux to the average user, just for those, who are willing to fiddle around with their system, learning how to use config files and what a kernel is.
      I'm looking forward to the day where Linux has got it's breakthrough on the desktop. OS X has shown us, that you can build a working, consistent, easy to use UI on top of a Unix OS. So it should be possible for Linux, don't you think ?

    2. Exactly ... Chuck Farland -- 21/08/05

      Excellent post, and right on the mark. It is just egoism and kiddy bombast to keep prattling on and on about offtopic nonsense and not adress the points in the article.

  23. If everything was implemented the way Dotzler described, Linux would be a piece of bloated, bug- and spyware-infested **** like Windows. One-click downloads led to the proliferation of spyware that plagues Windows. I have no trouble with compilations and Anonymous -- 19/07/05

    If everything was implemented the way Dotzler described, Linux would be a piece of bloated, bug- and spyware-infested **** like Windows. One-click downloads led to the proliferation of spyware that plagues Windows. I have no trouble with compilations and installations are more controllable *cough*Registry*cough*.
    Linux is actually quite ready for the desktop of serious users, but not for the desktop of clicking monkeys that think themselves computer savvy just because they can move a mouse around...

  24. Mr writer: By the careful analysis of anyone with half a brain, a OS built from scratch with security in mind, that provides a plentiful array of applications by default and costs nothing, is more ready for the desktop than a OS built from scrat Anonymous -- 19/07/05

    Mr writer:

    By the careful analysis of anyone with half a brain, a OS built from scratch with security in mind, that provides a plentiful array of applications by default and costs nothing, is more ready for the desktop than a OS built from scratch NOT to be safe, who provides the user with nothing but a media player and notepad by default and costs big bucks.

    Linux (any Window Manager) can by customized way beyond Windows. Linux doesn't have any annoying clipboard behavior, it can scroll a window on the background.

    I invite the writer to fly here to witness how my tv card gets way better responsiveness and clearer image in Linux than in Windows.

    You may encounter small problems and doubts when first installing ANY OS. Sir, I think you've used google for many things sillier than installing a OS. Use it as needed. Nowadays answers are a click or two away.

  25. What do my eyes see at the top of the screen before I even look down to read this article? BEHOLD: "ZDNet.com.au Ticker brought to you by Microsoft: Register now for Microsoft Tech·Ed 2005 – Click here" All o Anonymous -- 19/07/05

    What do my eyes see at the top of the screen before I even look down to read this article?

    BEHOLD:

    "ZDNet.com.au Ticker brought to you by Microsoft: Register now for Microsoft Tech·Ed 2005 – Click here"

    All of these articles on the internet saying the same thing: "Linux isn't ready for the desktop!" Guess what? It is! The very fact that I keep seeing these articles which all chant the same FUD is clear: LINUX IS READY FOR THE DESKTOP! Who do you think pays for these anti-Linux articles to be written?

    "ZDNet.com.au Ticker brought to you by Microsoft"

    Indeed.

  26. You didn't got the point of Linux's goal. The miracle of Free Software (free as free speech) is that there are lots of apps that do the same task, and YOU HAVE THE POWER TO CHOOSE ONE OF THEM, not FORCED to use one by default, as Windows users a Anonymous -- 19/07/05

    You didn't got the point of Linux's goal.

    The miracle of Free Software (free as free speech) is that there are lots of apps that do the same task, and YOU HAVE THE POWER TO CHOOSE ONE OF THEM, not FORCED to use one by default, as Windows users are.

    If users don't want to search for the last version of libg++ (for example) when installing firefox, is pretty easy: use DEBIAN for example.

    It will do everything for you automatically when upgrading or installing software.

    I think you don't know what Linux is.

  27. I would agree that Linux isn't QUITE ready for your average person on a desktop, but I think it's definitely very close. I've been using Ubuntu lately, and the jumps in user-friendliness just between the Warty and Hoary releases have been incredible; I c Anonymous -- 19/07/05

    I would agree that Linux isn't QUITE ready for your average person on a desktop, but I think it's definitely very close. I've been using Ubuntu lately, and the jumps in user-friendliness just between the Warty and Hoary releases have been incredible; I can't wait to see what they do with Breezy. One thing that will make it a lot better is the recent wide-spread availability of broadband internet, so that using apt-get (which is supremely easy to use, especially with a GUI frontend like Synaptic) can be quick and easy. Problems with library dependencies are automatically addressed and fixed.

    The only problems that I've encountered are ones that stem not from deficiencies in the OS itself, but in hardware manufacturers not wanting to release drivers to the Linux community. Even these problems are getting solved with workarounds like ndiswrapper (which isn't horrible to use, but I can see where average computer users would get lost), but some native support on the devices would be nice.

    So yeah, Linux isn't quite there yet, but it's damn close.

  28. The author assumes that windows is ready for the desktop. This is clearly incorrect. The fact that the majority of desktops in use are windows does not equal technical superiority. I use several windows workstations primarily for graphical, 3D, and Anonymous -- 19/07/05

    The author assumes that windows is ready for the desktop. This is clearly incorrect. The fact that the majority of desktops in use are windows does not equal technical superiority.
    I use several windows workstations primarily for graphical, 3D, and video editing purposes. These machines run windows because of the programs and hardware I am required to use, and have been stable for years. The reason for the stability is that I do not allow much desktop activity to occur on these systems. The reason is that windows (even XP) WILL BREAK if you engage in the activities the typical (home) desktop user is supposed to engage in.
    My wife, who is not computer literate, and I have been using KDE on Gentoo for several months now and almost anything concerning desktop activity has been tried and the system will not break.
    As can be seen by my choice of linux flavor (chosen after much experimenting), I actually do not think that linux is ready for desktops - but neither is windows. Given a choice, though, linux desktops win hands down if just for worry-free surfing and TCO :-)
    Sorry, Macs lost long ago due to TCO :-(

  29. Yet more saber rattling??? Stop bashing Asa. He makes a very good point. His only error is he probably should have titled his article "Why Linux isn't ready for MAIMSTREAM Desktops". Considering most of you Uber-Nerds could Anonymous -- 19/07/05

    Yet more saber rattling??? Stop bashing Asa.

    He makes a very good point. His only error is he probably should have titled his article "Why Linux isn't ready for MAIMSTREAM Desktops".

    Considering most of you Uber-Nerds could make a monkey's****work as your desktop, this article doesn't apply to you.

    Please refer to my earlier post if you want details.

  30. Autor is right. I have been fan of linux for almost a decade now. Recently I My mom asked me to build her a computer. I did so and I put ubuntu linux on it because I did not want to mess with gazilion CDs for evry necesary application, hours of downloadin Anonymous -- 19/07/05

    Autor is right. I have been fan of linux for almost a decade now. Recently I My mom asked me to build her a computer. I did so and I put ubuntu linux on it because I did not want to mess with gazilion CDs for evry necesary application, hours of downloading updates, Anti-virus, etc.

    My mom got mad at me -- the reason: MINESWEAPER IN UBUNTU LINUX DOES NOT KEEP THE SCORE IN A SAME WAY AS THE ONE IN WINDOWS!!!

    People have a certain set of expectations that they have from their computers and they do not wish to change. When I was a kid, I remember being angry at Win95 for not being exactly the same as Win 3.1

  31. Oh God, another "Why linux should be like Windows" article. Why has no one mentioned the obvious reaction to this flawed logic; who cares? Linux is the superior OS it is because the developers had a goal of building a superior OS. As Anonymous -- 19/07/05

    Oh God, another "Why linux should be like Windows" article. Why has no one mentioned the obvious reaction to this flawed logic; who cares?

    Linux is the superior OS it is because the developers had a goal of building a superior OS. As long as they keep developing along those lines, its a good thing. The last thing Linux development needs is to try and make it more like Windows. And it doesn't need to worry about whther or not it is taking "market share" from M$.

    A "Desktop OS" is whatever works on your desktop. For me that's Slackware. For others, its Suse, Debian, OS/2, OSX and for those who simply don't care, or are not technically competent enough to learn, there's Windows.

    Some complain that Linux' has too steep a learning curve, that its an entry barrier to new users. I say that's backwards. Windows is an entry barrier to computer literacy. Those who are willing and able to break through that barrier can experience something better. Those who want their hands held while their OS manufacturer decides how things should work, well, you get what you pay for.

    And speaking of paying for... there's that market share thing again... Linux is FREE! Market share doesn't freaking matter! Trying to play by 'market' rules will only get Linux into a development and marketing model that doesn't fit, and in which it cannot compete. Don't go there.

  32. Gosh man, chill a bit. I've been using Linux as my primary O/S so long I didn't know ASUS was selling motherboards that wouldn't boot MSDOS until last week. Some of us left MicoSoft years ago and never looked back. It was a simple decision. Did I want Mic Anonymous -- 19/07/05

    Gosh man, chill a bit. I've been using Linux as my primary O/S so long I didn't know ASUS was selling motherboards that wouldn't boot MSDOS until last week. Some of us left MicoSoft years ago and never looked back. It was a simple decision. Did I want Microsoft and system crashes through out the day or Linux which never crashes. And as for Apple, it's a great O/S. But who wants it when Linux is just as good. And yea it's FREE also.
    I added Fedora Core 3 on a friends box last month. Duel boot of course so he wouldn't have to go cold turkey. And thinking the same thing you do. He's been on Microsoft since the Win 95 days. He'll never like Linux. His box was running Windows XP Pro too. Microsoft's flagship O/S. To my supprise, he loves Fedora and never plans run Microsoft again. Why, he's tired of the crashes, viruses, damaged documents, and costs. He even feels betrayed because he's put up with it so long.
    In his words, "the stuff just runs, if you have a problem with Windows call 1-800-eat-xxxx and ask for Bill Gates".

    Chuck,

  33. What the artical should have been called was. Why Asa isn't ready for linux. Why is it that most windows users try one linux distro and when that distro turns out to not be for them automaticly say linux isnt ready. Your artical is tipical Anonymous -- 19/07/05

    What the artical should have been called was.
    Why Asa isn't ready for linux.
    Why is it that most windows users try one linux distro and when that distro turns out to not be for them automaticly say linux isnt ready.
    Your artical is tipical for a windows user (I tried linux and it was hard so all linux distros suck)
    Oh bye the way Redhat/Fedora isnt linux!
    Why would zdnet even allow you to post such crap.

  34. Asa Dotzler, you are the man! People like you should be drawing out specifications of how a product should look like. Engineers, they like things complicated. Regular people never type 'emacs' on the command prompt, if at all they know what a command prom Anonymous -- 19/07/05

    Asa Dotzler, you are the man! People like you should be drawing out specifications of how a product should look like. Engineers, they like things complicated. Regular people never type 'emacs' on the command prompt, if at all they know what a command prompt is. To defeat microsoft... to bring competetion into a monopoly... to provide cheap computing to the masses - do what firefox did. The good news is... We can do it!

  35. F.U.D. Bear in mind that Microsoft partners with ZDNet, so what else would you expect? BTW, try finding GNU/linux files in the downloads section... Anonymous -- 19/07/05

    F.U.D. Bear in mind that Microsoft partners with ZDNet, so what else would you expect? BTW, try finding GNU/linux files in the downloads section...

  36. You Linux Idiots keep repeating yourselves! Short-sighted morons, all of you! Asa is trying to explain a strategy for mass migration to the open source movement. All I've heard from you hardliners is how he sucks and he doesn't know anything about Linu Anonymous -- 19/07/05

    You Linux Idiots keep repeating yourselves! Short-sighted morons, all of you! Asa is trying to explain a strategy for mass migration to the open source movement. All I've heard from you hardliners is how he sucks and he doesn't know anything about Linux and you all know so much. And everyone should know just as much as you, or shouldn't be using a computer because everyone who touches a computer should be an "expert".

    I use Linux. I love Linux! 90% of my servers are Linux servers. I even have a Linux desktop computer. But I'm not so stupid as to portray the nerdy ego of " you don't like it? then don't use it!"

    The only thing your ranting has proven is that Linux is a good operating system that is highly capable of suplanting Windows if enough time and effort is put into it.

    But that's not the point of the darn article. The point of the article was to give an opinion on how to entice the large user base of Windows to migrate to Linux, AND THUS INCREASE MARKET SHARE FOR LINUX. This in turn would reduce the MS Monopoly all you self-loving Linux monkies hate so much.

    But instead you take this article as a personal attack and proceed to defend it with your own personal computer nerd experiences. Newsflash Bozo!!! The average user doesn't care, but does have plenty of money to spend on something that is easy to use with little effort to learn.

    And that is why Bill Gates is filthy rich, and we are not. He will just keep making more and more money thanks to all of you Linux hardliners that find it unessessary to open up to the general public.

    Please Please...someone post another stupid opinion about how Asa knows nothing about Linux and then commence to rattle off endless distros, and packages that you use that are sooo "easy" to use. Fools

  37. Writer is totally wrong. Linux is ready for desktops, and it doesn't need to install next to windows. Just buy a Linspire pre-installed desktop or notebook from Walmart. Installation through Click and Run IS easier than Windows. Having Anonymous -- 19/07/05

    Writer is totally wrong.
    Linux is ready for desktops, and it doesn't need to install next to windows. Just buy a Linspire pre-installed desktop or notebook from Walmart.
    Installation through Click and Run IS easier than Windows.

    Having said that, I'm using Mac OSX right now, and I also like Windows XP. Frankly I like the software on Windows, but ALL the above are good desktop Operating Systems.

    Frankly I'm tired of people talking about "Linux on the Desktop", then discounting by quoting a Redhat product. Redhat have NEVER made a good desktop product.

    This is like saying all Fords are rubbish and choosing the worst Ford to demonstrate your point.

  38. You Linux Idiots keep repeating yourselves! Short-sighted morons, all of you! Asa is trying to explain a strategy for mass migration to the open source movement. All I've heard from you hardliners is how he sucks and he doesn't know anything about Linu Anonymous -- 19/07/05

    You Linux Idiots keep repeating yourselves! Short-sighted morons, all of you! Asa is trying to explain a strategy for mass migration to the open source movement. All I've heard from you hardliners is how he sucks and he doesn't know anything about Linux and you all know so much. And everyone should know just as much as you, or shouldn't be using a computer because everyone who touches a computer should be an "expert".

    I use Linux. I love Linux! 90% of my servers are Linux servers. I even have a Linux desktop computer. But I'm not so stupid as to portray the nerdy ego of " you don't like it? then don't use it!"

    The only thing your ranting has proven is that Linux is a good operating system that is highly capable of suplanting Windows if enough time and effort is put into it.

    But that's not the point of the darn article. The point of the article was to give an opinion on how to entice the large user base of Windows to migrate to Linux, AND THUS INCREASE MARKET SHARE FOR LINUX. This in turn would reduce the MS Monopoly all you self-loving Linux monkies hate so much.

    But instead you take this article as a personal attack and proceed to defend it with your own personal computer nerd experiences. Newsflash Bozo!!! The average user doesn't care, but does have plenty of money to spend on something that is easy to use with little effort to learn.

    And that is why Bill Gates is filthy rich, and we are not. He will just keep making more and more money thanks to all of you Linux hardliners that find it unessessary to open up to the general public.

    Please Please...someone post another stupid opinion about how Asa knows nothing about Linux and then commence to rattle off endless distros, and packages that you use that are sooo "easy" to use. Fools

    1. ... arch the great -- 05/08/05

      what an idiot

  39. Linspire the best Desktop Linux. in my opinion, and you can get it pre-installed on really cheap desktops and laptops from Walmart. The click-n-run makes installing free and purchase-only software very very easy. Easier than windows in fact. Anonymous -- 19/07/05

    Linspire the best Desktop Linux.
    in my opinion, and you can get it pre-installed on really cheap desktops and laptops from Walmart.
    The click-n-run makes installing free and purchase-only software very very easy. Easier than windows in fact.
    So in my honest opinion Linspire Linux is ready for the desktop.

    I do however also like Windows XP and Mac OSX.
    Windows XP has some awesome tools on it like Visual Basic .net for programmers, and MS Project for Project Managers, Word XP is actually quite good for a lot of documentation tasks, especially with an add-on PDF creator like SolidConverterPDF.

    Similar tools exist for the Mac, although i haven't seen a good project manager for the Mac, I haven't looked either, I imagine there is a good one out there.

    I find OpenOffice not completely as good as Word for advanced documents, although it is getting there, and Linux may well be getting OfficeXP before long! (Zdnet news story a few days ago).

  40. What a great article. He hit the nails on the heads. Linux is NOT ready for prime time. I currently use Linspire 5.0 on one of my machines, but have made it duel boot so I can still do my job. What would be the greatest thing to ha Anonymous -- 19/07/05

    What a great article.

    He hit the nails on the heads. Linux is NOT ready for prime time.

    I currently use Linspire 5.0 on one of my machines, but have made it duel boot so I can still do my job. What would be the greatest thing to happen to Linux. If the dreaded power in Redmond would release a Linux version of Office, and make it an executable install.

    The comment about "users like downloading software and all they want to do is go to download.com and execute the program" is the second biggest flaw.

    I applaud the writer for his comments, and all the Linux Geeks out there should listen. Until Linux is as easy to use as Windows is, and until you can use the defacto standard in office productivity OFFICE, linux is religated to being "THE THIRD OS"
    that only geeks use.

    Robert