Uproar in Victoria over violent computer game

The Victorian Attorney-General has written to the federal Office of Film and Literature Classification to express community concerns over a violent computer game, following an uproar from the Crime Victims Support Association.

President of the association, Noel McNamara, has called on the government to ban "Hitman: Contracts", telling the Herald Sun newspaper the game is "absolutely disgusting to promote heinous crime and build up such an unhealthy fantasy".

A spokesperson for State Attorney-General Rob Hulls, who was confronted on the issue this morning in an interview with Victorian radio station 3AW, told ZDNet Australia  today that "it's a matter for the federal government".

"What we will be doing is to alert the federal government to community concerns that have been raised today," said the spokesperson, adding that the Attorney-General has not called for it to be banned.

"Hitman: Contracts," rated MA15+ and released in May, involves creating strategic plans to kill designated victims in various countries and is the third release in the Hitman series.

Alex Kidman, editor of games review Web site Gamespot.com.au -- a ZDNet Australia site -- said the argument against violent computer games has been had many times before.

"The line that we must protect the kiddies is a bit rich given that the vast majority of the games buying public is over the age of 20," he said. "It's not a game that's marketed towards the younger gamer in any case.

Kidman adds "what the concerns do point to is a glaring flaw in the current ratings legislation that doesn't allow for an 'R' Rating".

Chris Eade, spokesman for the distributors of the game Atari Australia, said the game was classified according to legislation and given a medium rating in animated violence.

Eade said there are "much more violent games out there", some with a "high" violence rating.

The game has been very popular since its release, according to Eade, who also argues "it has more strategic elements" than just being violent.

Eade also states that if the game is banned then "the classification process needs to be looked at because it's classified by the Office of Film and Literature Classification, a government department."

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Talkback 15 comments

    "Oh my goodness, think of ...Anonymous -- 20/07/04

    "Oh my goodness, think of the children". Here we go with that stupid line again.
    Banning it will change nothing, people will just download it from the internet, much like banned movies. Although I suppose most of the twits asking for it to be banned barely know how to turn on a computer.

    i'd like to compalin about com ...Anonymous -- 20/07/04

    i'd like to compalin about community standards groups that try to tell me how to live.

    whose 'standards' are they? the sales of 'violent' games would indicate a significant proportion of the community has played those games.

    I fully agree with the above t ...Anonymous -- 20/07/04

    I fully agree with the above two comments.
    It just goes to show that the OFLC is out of touch, as the MAJORITY of game buyers are between 20-30 years of age. Its time for a R(18+) game category. Any adult can tell these are just games.
    If these people are concerned about the children, I have to ask, What child can afford a $80-$100 vid game? And secondly where are the parents in controlling what their kids are doing?
    I work full time, and can only afford one of these games every month or so. It the irresponsible parents that dump their kids in front of Tv's and vid games that usually cause the most noise. Time they started 'Parenting' their kids, and stopped trying to prevent others from making their own decisions regarding what entertainment we want to amuse ourselves with.

    The lack of an R rating for vi ...Anonymous -- 20/07/04

    The lack of an R rating for video games probably does more harm than good. Parents routinely allow their children to watch PG or MA rated TV games and PG or MA rated movies and I suspect allow them to play MA rated games. If a game had an "R18+" sticker then I suspect that many parents would more carefully consider what they allowed their children to play without impacting on the rights of adults.

    You can ban the games all you ...Anonymous -- 21/07/04

    You can ban the games all you want but that wont stop people from playing them or getting a hold of them, illegally if necessary. There are a number of places you can access via the internet that will allow you to download full games and applications such as Microsoft Office and Windows. I am not talking about old games and applications either. I am talking about "the latest" games and applications. If you know where to you look and you have a fast enough internet connection such as ADSL or Cable then you can download these games in a matter of hours.

    So for all I care (and many others as well), go ahead, ban the games, but it wont solve anything. If one person downloads a game, then 2 people get. It two people get it, 4 will as well. If 4 get it, so will another 8... and that wont stop until everyone who wants the game, has it.

    I'm just glad that they didn't ...Anonymous -- 21/07/04

    I'm just glad that they didn't play Manhunt!
    Let's be honest here if a parent buys their kid the game then it's not the games fault.

    These type of videogames are designed for adults and as such come with a rating on them. The object of the Hitman is to be a hitman so what do they expect.

    Crimes were being committed before videogames and will continue to be committed no matter what. I don't believe anyone who plays this game has decided they better hotfoot it over to Italy to take out a mafia don. Once again we get over-reaction from a group with an inability to look at things from an intelligent perspective.

    Are you crazy? Hitman is an ex ...Anonymous -- 24/07/04

    Are you crazy? Hitman is an excellent game. If you think just cause someone plays a game like that there going to walk into a building and blow everyones brains out? No likely, So you people are just morons if you ban the game.

    It's been interesting to read ...Anonymous -- 26/07/04

    It's been interesting to read the 'arguments' in defence of these games. I couldn't agree more: It's up to the parents to keep their kids from playing such a game. What worries me more though, is why someone likes to play a game that has the expressed objective of killing someone. Mmmh. Does it say something about them? I'd guess so. What really is the question here, is whether the proponents of these games will recognize their own hypocrisy. Let's face it, people are attracted by the graphic depiction of violence. To say the strategy and competitive factor are the enticing characteristics of these games is just a load of crap. There IS a difference between hitman and let's say chess. Even if they both pursue similar objectives.
    Finally, I'd like to know just when and how they decide it's time to let Little Bruce play... and how these folks explain to Little Bruce why Daddy can play, but it's not good for the kid.

    It's been interesting to read ...Anonymous -- 26/07/04

    It's been interesting to read the 'arguments' in defence of these games. I couldn't agree more: It's up to the parents to keep their kids from playing such a game. What worries me more though, is why someone likes to play a game that has the expressed objective of killing someone. Mmmh. Does it say something about them? I'd guess so. What really is the question here, is whether the proponents of these games will recognize their own hypocrisy. Let's face it, people are attracted by the graphic depiction of violence. To say the strategy and competitive factor are the enticing characteristics of these games is just a load of crap. There IS a difference between hitman and let's say chess. Even if they both pursue similar objectives.
    Finally, I'd like to know just when and how they decide it's time to let Little Bruce play... and how these folks explain to Little Bruce why Daddy can play, but it's not good for the kid.

    ban hitman all you want, im st ...Anonymous -- 30/07/04

    ban hitman all you want, im still gonna find a way to get it. its the best strategic/violent game ever.

    Dude, spokesman jerk, why don' ...Anonymous -- 25/08/04

    Dude, spokesman jerk, why don't you stop bitching about video games and go out and get laid for once in your life.

    if I listen to Barry Manillow, ...Anonymous -- 05/09/04

    if I listen to Barry Manillow, does that mean that i am going to run around in tight spandex? Hell no. music, games, and life, doesn't dictate what our actions are. they may take part in some influence, but there are more influences out there other than gmaes and movies and music. Ever take a look at parenting? the home life? the neighborhood? the 10 o'clock news? I play every violent game out there and I have no urge to go out and kill someone for their car. Basically what I am saying is, dont buy the damn game if you dont want to see or play it. and if your kids want it, give them the good ol' time out, never understood the whole time out thing since it never really works and makes the parents look like idiots. i got my **** beat when i was a kid and I turned out pretty well. anywho.............. yeah, thats it.

    One last comment to the lady w ...Anonymous -- 05/09/04

    One last comment to the lady who talked about the people who defend these types of games. your comment "What worries me more though, is why someone likes to play a game that has the expressed objective of killing someone" ? The Marines train people to specifically take out a target with 100% accuracy. And most people want to join the army or marines specifically because of all the adventure stories and the fact they can carry a weapon. I'm sure you didnt mean your comment for all, but remember, the government looks for people that can kill when needed for the country, and some of the service men that return back home are not all there in the head. But yeah, thats it. im not going to return to this site cuz i was just wandering around for hints for hitman. so anyone that reads this and feels like commenting to me about anything can reach me at my email address. even those people that actually have the time to proof read all that i have wrote just so they can make pathetic attempts to show off their "higher intellegence". I dont give a **** let that be my statement. Adios!!!!!!1
    <^> (Oo) <^>

    Just another random comment... ...Anonymous -- 05/09/04

    Just another random comment..... What would happen if I were to commit suicide while listening to barbra streisand? Would they investigate her lyrics to see if there are any subliminal messages? would she have to go to court as Ozzy once did for his song " suicide Solution "? For those that dont know the song, the case had nothing to do with the actual song but a certain part in the song where it sorta sounds like they said " grab the gun, shoot shoot shoot." I listened to it depressed, drunk, high and sober, I never thought it said anything near to that....hmmmm
    Dont know. But if you feel like ending your life, try listening to barbra streisand when you do it.
    I'll be laughing my **** off if people start doing this and the news turns this into top stories.

    If the victim's rights morons ...Anonymous -- 11/09/04

    If the victim's rights morons paid more attention to the game, they would realize, the Hitman is actually killing the bad people, NOT murdering little old laides or kids or raping an innocent woman. The game is primarly about stealth that that's what makes this game so great.

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