US$100 laptop 'will boost desktop Linux'

The One Laptop per Child project will make Linux as popular on the desktop as it is on the server today, according to Nicholas Negroponte, head of the project and co-founder of the MIT Media Laboratory.

Speaking on the final day of Red Hat's annual user summit in Nashville, Tennessee, Negroponte told an audience of Linux enthusiasts and technology professionals that the OLPC project will lead to mass adoption of the operating system, if the software that powers it is efficient and usable enough.

"One of the side effects is that it will boost worldwide consumption of Linux on the desktop so incredibly that it will be on par with where it is with servers," he said. "We need your support not to make it overweight and hard to use like all the others are."

The One Laptop per Child project aims to develop a portable PC for use by children in the developing world for around US$100. The price has risen since the plan was first announced to about US$135 to US$140, according to Negroponte.

"It is a floating price. We are a nonprofit organisation. We have a target of US$100 by 2008, but probably it will be US$135, maybe US$140. That is a start price, but what we have to do is with every release make it cheaper and cheaper -- we are promising that the price will go down," Negroponte said.

Currently on leave from MIT to push the OLPC message full-time, Negroponte said that though his project has received widespread support from companies such as Red Hat -- which is building the operating system -- and Advanced Micro Devices, not everyone in the IT industry is on his side.

"AMD is our partner, which means Intel is pissing on me. (Microsoft Chairman) Bill Gates is not pleased either, but if I am annoying Microsoft and Intel then I figure I am doing something right," he said.

Negroponte added that the project required an extremely scaled-down operating system to enable the eventual machines to run at a decent speed, while using very little power. "About 25 percent of the cost of a (Windows) laptop is there just to support XP, which is like a person that has gotten so fat that they use most of their muscle to move their fat," he said.

The philosophy behind the OLPC project is that the best way to improve the education of children in the developing world is to give them the means to educate themselves by providing them with a PC that they see as their own.

Negroponte claimed that there are about 1 billion children in the world, with half in remote rural locations where there are no real schools, and teachers themselves have little more than a basic education. "It is very primitive. In situations like that, more teachers and schools are not the solution -- it can take decades that way. A much quicker solution is to engage the children themselves in their own education," he said.

Past attempts to give children in developing countries access to PCs have failed because the children did not see the computers as their own, and as a result did not engage with them as expected. "People say we just gave 100,000 PCs to schools, and they're still sitting in their boxes. The problem is that you gave them to the wrong people -- the kids don't think they are theirs, and see them as government property, or they are locked up after school."

The key to making computing projects work in education is scale, according to the OLPC boss. He claimed that the sheer number of machines the group is planning to build means that it can not only buy cheaper components, but it also has the ability to change corporate strategies. Negroponte related an anecdote about meeting the head of a PC display company who claimed that he could not build the kind of display OLPC needed -- until he found out that the order would be for 100 million units.

Andrew Donoghue of ZDNet UK reported from Nashville, Tennessee. For more coverage from ZDNet UK, click here.

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Talkback 10 comments

    Misplaced charity Mike -- 05/06/06 (in reply to #120135503)

    I’m still a but unclear about this whole $100 laptop project, the problem with these developing countries is not a lack of laptops, it’s massive overpopulation due to an unsustainable birth-rate, largely brought about by cultural problems and foreign religious-based charity. Don’t feed ‘em – teach ‘em. The best thing we can give these countries is mass sterilisation and contraception, with education and incentives to use it. Then when the population reduces to a sustainable level, their socio-economic level may reach that of needing a laptop.

    I'm sorry, who has the standard interface? David L -- 06/06/06 (in reply to #120135528)

    So linux needs a standard interface like Windows, 95, 98, NT, 2000, Xp, and now Vista, which are all the same??? Linux you can use either KDE or GNOME as interfaces, quite independently of the undelying version of the OS. and if you can use windows, you can use KDE....and I can plug my camera, video, MP3 player, phone, and portable storage device into my linux box at home, with no driver issues. You might want to try a newer linux distribution, your experience sounds very old hat.

    Comparison of user interfaces for MS and Linux Anonymous -- 09/06/06

    It's sad, but sometimes people just accept, without question, the MS way of doing things: you accept their interface and work with it.

    Linux gives you choices. You can use one of many different "window managers", from KDE to GNOME to JWM to...there are many of them available. If you don't like one, try another one. That is one of the "freedoms" of Linux.

    But many people are so ingrained with the MS interface now, they don't want to take the time to learn another way of doing things. How long did it take you to learn to use the Windows 95 interface when you first started to use it? Well, it will be a similar learning curve for any of the Linux window managers. If you can deal with the concept that you won't get it immediately, that it might take a few hours of messing around, learning where things are and how they interact, then you should look at Linux again.

    But please don't write it off beause you don't understand the way that it works, and the choices it offers to you.

    Until there is a linux standard Anonymous -- 13/06/06

    I'm not sure that Linux users are actually after "mass market dominance", certainly for my part I just can't understand why you would pay for Windows of any variety when there is such a useful, stable and FREE alternative that is not tied to hardware specification in the same way. As the increasing Linux uptake demonstrates, the rich dolts who need their generic experience are slowly coming around to realise this.

    Granted Gnome is an acquired taste (and I find that I am liking it more with use), but KDE is immediately recognisable.

    And the driver issues! Yes, if Linux were Windows it would be as "plug and play" as Windows. Of course that is not FULLY plug and play either, is it? And if you are trying to plug and play equipment for which you don't have the drivers handy ... tough! Setting up my middle aged USB scanner on a new Linux box is a no-brainer, while setting it up on a XP box is a hassle; likewise, no driver loading for cameras, etc, etc.

    What are the issues? Thank heavens for broadband because dial-up configuration was a pig. Setting up a wireless configuration is getting much better but is nowhere near as easy.

    Oh, and big news flash - the cost of Linux doubled last year to match the increasing functionality! MS Vista will follow the crowd no doubt.

    People Buy Windows Because... Craigos -- 13/06/06 (in reply to #120135926)

    There are plenty of reasons to choose either operating system.

    1. Game Support - Unfortunately Linux has a downfall here because there are very few developers who design games for it. Not to mention ATi's poor driver support for Linux.

    2. Familiarity - As you pointed out, People are used to the way Windows is, and many people spent more than 'just a few hours' learning how to use Windows. Remember, people new to linux probably have 10+ years using Microsoft Windows platforms.

    3. Product Support - Name a company actively involved in creating their entire Windows range of applications for Linux. Yes, Adobe has developed some, but not enough to suffice. Pretty hard to do hey? Yes there is a range of 'alternative and free' programs, but again - people have spent years using Windows based applications like Microsoft Office (although one could argue that the transition to OpenOffice.org will be an easier transition than from Office 2003 to Office 2007)

    4. Support - Yes, there are tonnes of forums out there for when you need technical support - but Telephone support is essential for some customers to learn how to use it. Microsoft does have a pretty darn good Technical Support area.

    5. Price - This never ceases to amaze me that people cannot justify from $200 for Windows (from $80 for those who are in Training/Have a member of the family in the academic scene for Academic versions) yet can justify $100 on games that last maybe 3-4 months? Come on! Windows lasts you a substantial period of time compared to that of a game or application. There are people who also purchase expensive peripherals for their PC's worth more than Microsoft Windows.

    There are many more reasons why it isn't in the home desktop scene, and I am not a Windows Fanboy or a Linux Fanboy. Both have their place in the market, and Linux is a great server (all my servers run some version of Linux), however considering that Windows is only a small cost (compared to that of hardware, games, etc...) - I'm more than happy to use Windows because it works with as little hassles as possible. Yes, Windows has a tendancy to crash, but I can tell you now - I'd much rather using a somewhat unstable copy of Windows (which is about on a par with Linux as a desktop OS) where I can plug all my components in and they work and pop a CD in to install a program compared to that of Linux where recompiling the kernel has become second nature and still a pain in the arse if you botch it, and software that I buy off the shelf needs to be configured to run through CrossOver Office or Wine!

    Reply to Craigos Hamish -- 14/06/06 (in reply to #120135948)

    Hi Craigos,

    The driver support for Linux seems to be the bugbear of a lot of folks. Maybe they don't understand that it is not Linux that is the problem, but the hardware manufacturers. Linux advocates have been trying for YEARS to get Nvidia and ATI (etc...ad nauseum. Broadcom for network cards comes to mind here too) to release open source code for their video cards. They won't do it. I have read varying opinions on why that is, but the fact remains, that their drivers are closed source. Which means that they are still available for most distros, but can cause problems. Please don't blame the Linux ppl and users, just don't buy an ATI video card! Voting with your wallet is probably the most effective way of getting the h/ware manufacturers to support Linux.

    I have never had an issue with transferring to a Linux GUI. I have used a few, didn't like a few, and now use Ubuntu (the latest release). I downloaded the ISO file and burnt it onto CD (about $5 for bandwidth and cost of CD so far). Installation took about 30 minutes. I have an HP Inkjet printer, which I had to configure (but I had to do that in WinXP too, so even on that score). Set up email, web browser favourites, instant messaging...all the same as XP so far. I was up and going checking email, browsing and chatting within an hour. There was about 13 MB of updates to install.

    What I DIDN'T have to do OR PAY FOR was anti-virus software, anti-spyware, a firewall, MS Office. I didn't have to install PDF reading software, or MSN Messenger software or .... the list is fairly long to get an XP PC up to scratch. And lets not mention the amount of updates you have to download and install!

    Linux is not perfect and not for everyone. But then neither is MS XP, it just tries to be.

    Hamish

    Reply to Hamish Craigos -- 14/06/06 (in reply to #120135985)

    I understand what you are saying, but I think you missed my point. What I was addressing was why people buy (and use) windows. I'm always astonished to see that people who like Linux also use Ubuntu which in my opinion is actually a pretty good Operating System for those who use an office based system (ie Internet Browsing, Office etc...) HOWEVER like windows, everything is pretty much served up for them on a nice platter. Unfortunately, Linux is a kernel - and is commonly mistaken for a complete Operating System. Ubuntu has pretty good support, however - other Linux based Operating Systems have enormous trouble with driver support. Fedora Core is a prime example of an Operating System with great potential but some stupid usability flaws preventing it being a good (by good I mean mainstream) Desktop Operating System as opposed to Windows.

    Never have I blamed the Linux community for ATI's lack of support, but the fact is - there are plenty of manufactures (IBM being one of them) who use ATI's technology. But it's not even ATI, how's the wireless drivers go for people? I always hear of report after report of dodgey wireless support!

    Microsoft Windows isn't for everyone, but what Microsoft Windows does better than ANY OTHER OS is that they have support, they have developers, they have hardware manufactured specifically for Windows. In the business scene (and even home scene), I can't see why one would waste their time with Linux if their main PC usage extends beyond that of browsing the internet, or even graphic editing.

    Let me know when Halo 2, Half Life 2, Grand Theft Auto San Andreas etc... run 100% perfect on Linux with no emulation of WINDOWS required.

    Yes, Linux can be good as an OS, but the point I was making was why people buy Windows over trying Linux. I suppose it goes back to the old saying "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" and although Windows is prone to getting Viruses, Trojans etc... It's been a good while since any of my clients, myself and others who use Legitimate copies of Microsoft Windows have recieved any nasty material.

    Ever noticed how many people have problems with their PC's and security and you find out that not only have they got a cracked copy of Windows XP, but don't have Service Pack 2 or any updates? Most of my clients with problems have been ones that use dodgey Windows XP copies with no service pack and an ancient unupdated version of Norton Antivirus 2001?

    Here's a bit about my experience with Linux: For 6 months, I got utterly jack of Windows XP and it's stupid errors and flaws (after 4 reformats, Windows was still unstable) and as a result, I installed my first proper Linux Operating System - SuSE 9.0. I used it for 8 months (in that time, it was upgraded to SuSE 9.1), and yes - it was a great alternative. I used it for 8 months being able to complete alot of work on it. However, when it come to games - Linux just wasn't the right operating system. It also let me down in the burning scene. That's when I brought a copy of Microsoft Windows XP Pro and since then - I have had no troubles, and I'm talking 3 years ago! Keeping my PC up-to-date has actually prevented alot of issues. The point I am trying to address is that Linux is great, but Windows is made for the customer, not for a bunch of nerds who are ok with sitting down and recompiling the kernel for kicks :)

    Most people have Windows served up as default at purchase! Anonymous -- 14/06/06 (in reply to #120135948)

    Thanks for the reply!

    1. Game Support - Absolutely agree here. The only people in my household wanting games are little people, which brings up a whole philosophical argument of whether this inability is an advantage or liability! I use it as a spur to urge my children to USE their computer to solve this problem of inability to play.

    2. Familiarity - this is true, but familiarity in Windows did not take years to develop, only days to weeks. This learning curve can be reproduced, AND will be for Vista anyway.

    3. Product Support - Apart from officeware where OpenOffice does very nicely, the mainstream programs are all ported or duplicated without invoking Wine (email, browser, geneology, money management, video, audio). The things that I have found difficult are not unavailability of programs, but the quantum leap in ability needed, e.g., I can do statistics on R and GIS on GRASS, but boy, how do I start? This can be a problem, thankfully it is lessening with time.

    4. Support - this is an area of substantial difference, particularly in cost also. The 'tonnes of forums' are generally helpful and adaptable. Personally I have never experienced any really helpful Telephone support.

    5. Price - The issue of price cannot be justified by reference to hardware and other software.
    I object to MS signing suppliers to having to supply Windows that I don't want when I purchase hardware. Why does my $200/$80 have to go to MS-land?
    In addition, I can't justify $100 for a game either so we don't have any disagreement there! I am intrigued by the benefit of having Windows last a long time. Are you intentionally implying stability and solidity? Unfortunately, MS Vista will make almost all my machines obsolete, while I am installing Ubuntu 6.06 today on a low spec machine and it is running faster than before.
    And why are the expensive peripherals suitable for my PC unsupported in Linux?
    I'd love to see MacOS X for sale for $50-75 for Intel users!

    Unfortunately I am a Linux Fanboy. I agree that Windows has a place in the market. I agree that Linux makes a great server, however with 7 machines at home Windows is a substantial cost for installation, increasing lack of support (what WinOS will run on a dual Pentium II?), inordinate time on fixing viruses, spyware, and config SNAFUs because multiple children can't be managed on exclusive user accounts.

    I'm not happy to use Windows because it costs, it works with more hassles than it should, has a tendancy to crash, and is somewhat unstable copy.

    Linux kernel recompiling would be a pain in the arse if you needed to do it. I haven't found kernel maintenance that difficult.

    And finally software that I get for free off the CDs, DVDs and Internet need little configuration to run on Linux. If I want to use Windows software I can always attempt to configure it to run through CrossOver Office or Wine, but why would I if there is a similarly useful product under Linux?

    Reply to Anonymous Craigos -- 14/06/06 (in reply to #120135992)

    I have absolutely no arguements with what you are saying, however you just proven to me that you have a knowledge of computers that most ordinary users DONT have. They want to simply turn a computer on (with the assistance of a 3yo :)) and click on a program and expect it to run first time every time.

    For example, I know alot of my clients will go out and purchase a program for their computer, pop it in and it goes. With linux, you must incorporate Wine, Cedega, CrossOver Office where applicable - the list is endless. See where I am coming from? You do kernel maintenance - how many people do you know inexperienced with computers could pull that off :D Let alone get Wine configured to work with a program off the shelf. You mention wine to someone, and the chances are you get one served up for you (which isn't a bad thing either :))

    Better documentation and support Suzie -- 14/06/06

    Comprehensive, reliable and easily accessible documentation and support will boost desktop Linux. But I agree with the first comment, in that I suspect what large starving families in developing nations need is not a laptop. We do need to implement strong family planning and education strategies in these areas first and law, and order, and reduce government corruption... see the point!

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