Torvalds in renewed Aust Linux trademark push

A lawyer acting on behalf of Linus Torvalds has written to Australian Linux vendors asking them to relinquish any legal claim to the name Linux and purchase a licence for its use from the worldwide trademark owner.

The 28 July letter from Perth lawyer Jeremy Malcolm asks vendors to either confirm they had already purchased a licence from the Linux Mark Institute (LMI) to use the term or sign a statutory declaration waiving any claim to exclusive rights to its use. In return for a signature, Malcolm said, the LMI would ratify the vendor's use of the term Linux and waive all rights regarding any previous trademark infringement. That vendor would then, however, be required to obtain a licence costing between US$300 and US$600 from LMI for continued use of the term.

The LMI -- appointed by Torvalds as the "worldwide exclusive licensee of the Linux trademark for the purposes of protecting that trademark from misuse" -- and local body Linux Australia have been involved in an 18-month struggle to register the term as a trademark in Australia.

"You may or may not be aware that it is your legal responsibility to obtain a licence from the [LMI] before you are allowed to use the word 'Linux' as part of your product or service name or brand," Malcolm's letter said.

The lawyer told ZDNet Australia  this morning that acceptance by recipients of the letter to its conditions would help in making Torvalds' case for legal ownership of the term Linux to IP Australia, the local intellectual property regulator. "The success of Mr Torvalds' application for registration of 'Linux' as a trademark depends on your assistance," reads the letter.

Malcolm did, however admit this time last year Australian companies using the word 'Linux' to promote and sell their products weren't legally obliged to pay royalties to LMI as long as they weren't trading their wares internationally.

Malcolm's letter attracted a mixed response from some targeted vendors.

"I haven't signed any similar statutory declaration for any other products, vendors or trademarks that I deal with commercially," Linux vendor Si2's principal consultant, Marc Englaro, told ZDNet Australia , adding he would be investigating the issue further.

However, Steve D'Aprano, operations manager at prominent open source vendor Cybersource, told ZDNet Australia  his company would sign the statutory declaration.

"If Linux were to fall out of trademark protection, there would be nothing to prevent unauthorised, shady and unscrupulous individuals and organisations from using the term for cheap knock-offs cashing in on the name or other products which harm the reputation of Linux, and by association, ourselves," he said.

Malcolm dismissed initial speculation from some Linux community members that the letter was fraudulent, pointing out he had the backing of both Linux Australia and the LMI.

"If it was just me writing then no-one would pay any attention," he said. "But I think Linux Australia is going to put out a press release about it, just to confirm it's legitimate."

Malcolm admits the possibility exists the trademark will not be granted to Torvalds.

"If that's the case it means that nobody will be able to have exclusive rights to the word," he said, "which also means we won't be able to stop people using it in a misleading way."

Like this article? Click below to send it to your mobile for free!

Talkback 8 comments

  1. Free Linux... John -- 02/08/05

    Looks like it's free as long as Linus is happy, otherwise no better than Unix. You pay lots of money to call your OS a version of Unix, looks like profiteering to me

    1. Response to John Sly Coder -- 02/08/05

      John,

      I take you are being purposefully obstinate or painfull in your response.

      I also take it you understand that this payment ($300-$600) relates to firms which want to refer to the 'Linux' brand in their product names or services?

      Linus owns the trademark Linux. If you want to use that mark, then you need to licence it.

      If you _dont_ want to use the term 'Linux' in reference to your products, but you still want to use the Linux software itself, then you are free to do so, at zero cost.

      What part of this don't you understand?

      Or are you trolling on behalf of the Microsoft apologists?

    2. Known troll, ignore Anonymous -- 03/08/05

      > Or are you trolling on behalf of the Microsoft apologists?
      <p><br />
      <p>Absolutely. As he always does. Ignore him. He's a well known troll.

    3. Response to Sly John -- 03/08/05

      This has nothing to do with Microsoft...The UNIX foundation charges a very large sum of money to companies to enable them to call their product UNIX. This smelt of the same thing, paying to use the name Linux, though Linux is free by its nature. I can only assume this is an IP protection system though shared IP is the linux way.

    4. Reply to John Sly Coder -- 04/08/05

      John,

      you said:

      "This has nothing to do with Microsoft...The UNIX foundation charges a very large sum of money to companies to enable them to call their product UNIX. This smelt of the same thing, paying to use the name Linux, though Linux is free by its nature. I can only assume this is an IP protection system though shared IP is the linux way."

      The aim of the current legal approach is to ensure that firms only use the trademark 'Linux' for its intended purpose.

      And if include 'Linux' in your product or service naming, then you have to pay a once-off 'few hundred dollars" for the privelege.

      No big deal right.

    5. ... Anonymous -- 02/08/05

      It's about the term "Linux" not being misused. And $300 to $600 isn't pretty much for a company.

  2. RedHat does the same thing... Dingletec -- 02/08/05

    There are a couple of Linux distros that are exact copies of RedHat, using the SRPMS. CentOS, for example. Trademark protection appears to be the only protection RedHat has in this case. And they still make money. They just require CentOS and others to remove all logos and references to RedHat before distributing their exact copy. If I remember correctly, RedHat makes most of their money off of services anyway. They are my heros... Even if I don't really like to use their distro, or their default Window Manager, or...

  3. Header par is WRONG on important points Leon Brooks -- 03/08/05

    Lawyer has not asked for money, letter explicitly says that it is not asking for money or anything of the sort, FAQ (http://www.ilaw.com.au/linuxfaq.html) says "no money, no instructions to seek money". Perhaps ZDnet should have asked before posting?

    The entire purpose of the letter is to get Australian businesses selling products with "Linux" in their name to clarify their positions.

    Don't expect anything like so gentle an approach if you use "Adobe" or "Windows" in your product name,

Add your opinion


Latest Videos

Sponsored content

Power Centre - Content from our premier sponsors

Blogs

  • Renai LeMay Australian Govt funds IT start-ups
    This week Australia's Federal Government announced it had allocated $3.6 million in funding to 57 local research projects so that they could be commercialised, with many of them being web or IT-related start-ups.
  • Array Google should come clean on datacentres
    It's nice that Google says it has put an effort into making its datacentres more energy efficient, but the search giant's pledges won't mean much until it discloses just how many of the beasties it's actually running.
  • Array US shows what OPEL could have been
    Sprint's WiMAX roll-out in Baltimore will prove the Australian government's decision to worm its way out of the Opel WiMAX contract was a short-sighted, and ultimately damaging, political stunt that has benefited nobody.
  • More blogs »

Tags

Back to top

Featured