Open-source split of Mambo software begins

The disgruntled developers behind Mambo, an open-source software for publishing Web sites, have launched their own version of the project, called Joomla.

Version 1.0 of Joomla is based on version 4.5.2.3 of Mambo plus some security and bug fixes. Like Mambo, it's governed by the General Public License, or GPL, which lets anyone see, modify and redistribute the code. The developers announced Joomla on Thursday and said the code itself would be available "very soon."

In August, Mambo developers split with Miro International, the company that founded and commercialised the project, over disagreements about how to govern the software and control its intellectual property. Miro established the Mambo Foundation for the task, but the developers argued that Miro still held the real control.

For its part, Miro said the developers were the ones making the power grab and vowed to build a new development team from scratch.

The Joomla developers released a schedule of planned improvements to the software. Version 1.1, scheduled for release by the end of the year, will have user interface improvements; versions 1.2 and 1.3 will get new features for governing who has permission to see and modify Joomla-published content; and version 2.0, scheduled for release in 2006, will be overhauled to use version 5 of the PHP software for computer-generated Web sites.

One complication of the divided -- or "forked" -- development efforts between Mambo and Joomla is the large number of plug-ins that extend the publishing software's abilities. Plug-ins that work with Mambo 4.5.2 work with Joomla 1.0, but the Joomla developers said on their Web site that "we cannot guarantee that add-ons designed specifically for Mambo 4.5.3 will be compatible with Jooma! 1.1 or future versions."

When the developers split from Mambo, they set up a site called Open Source Matters. That is now the name of the entity that holds the Joomla copyright.

Eben Moglen, a Columbia University law professor and head of the Software Freedom Law Center, served as adviser to the Joomla team.

The GPL is the license developed by Richard Stallman to underpin his free software movement, which was established to create a software realm that guarantees freedoms not offered with typical proprietary software.

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Talkback 3 comments

    Miro's power play Anonymous -- 05/09/05 (in reply to #120120711)

    I talked with Peter Lamont the day OSM went live, and by and large, it has come to pass that the only power play was Miro. This makes Miro's claim about "the developers were the ones making the power grab and vowed to build a new development team from scratch." another piece of factually incorrect information from the Mambo Foundation Board.

    More banning and censorship of the Mambo forums has continued since that announcement, to the point moderators are censoring any divergent opinion to the Board and banning them banning the users.

    What kind of Foundation bans its membership?

    Unprofessional conduct by Devteam Anonymous -- 06/09/05 (in reply to #120120712)

    The kind trying to stave off malicious users! The develoeprs basically hijacked this project wihtout speakign to the community. The Foundation is based ont eh Eclipse and ubuntu frameworks and is a proven workable structure - the Devteam freaked when they saw that they were losing control. It's sad that they threw the entire community into the bin rather than try to work within an established mechanism which gave voting power to the members to select their own baord, to control their own IP. I think they were clearly ill-advised and mitvated by god knows what.

    Banning people = free open source? Anonymous -- 06/09/05 (in reply to #120120733)

    Supposedly the kind of freedom that is seen in an open source foundation is that it bans and censors the membership when it does not fall in line with the Board. The Board was "trying to stave off malicious users!", yet it is the users themselves who have got the product and brand name to where it was (prior to Miro Pty recinding the agreement set down in the MSC).

    I doubt you'd hear of Ubuntu and Eclipse resorting to the tactics demonstrated by the Mambo Foundation. Any Foundation that bans and censors dissent is a dictatorship, as there is no clear, present and public way for the membership to *vote* the Board off, since such an act would, by it's very nature, demonstrate dissent..

    And whoever this is above (Regs, Mr Lamont or Mr Begley), what kind of professional conduct for an association includes a Board which nobody can vote off ?

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