Linux firms rubbish Microsoft's customer win

Microsoft is delighted that the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors is swapping Linux for Windows - but the open source community insist it doesn't prove that Windows is superior to Linux.

On Monday Microsoft announced that the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (RICS) had replaced its Linux Web server with a Windows alternative to save costs and improve its Web offering. "RICS's decision to migrate to Windows will see reduced costs, improved content management and integrated back-office systems with its Web portal," claimed Microsoft.

But open source companies such as Linux vendor Novell, open source application server vendor JBoss and open source consultancy Netproject claimed that RICS did not evaluate Linux properly before making its move. As a result, the move cannot shed any light on the relative merits of Linux and Windows, the three companies said.

In an interview, Richard Carlson, the head of business systems at RICS, admitted that the company did not do a comparative study of Linux and Windows.

"We didn't do, say, a three month evaluation of Linux," said Carlson. "We decided that we should evaluate the Microsoft offerings first. Once we realised what a powerful set of tools they were, it became self-evident this was the right way to go down."

RICS uses predominantly Microsoft-based technologies, so when it decided to bring its outsourced Linux Web server back in house it decided to switch to Microsoft technologies to consolidate its architecture and take advantage of its in-house skills. Carlson expects to see lower costs following the move.

"It fitted in with our corporate strategy ââ,¬" everything else on the landscape was Microsoft," said Carlson. "We have a team of 20 people who are all very well qualified in Microsoft technology. None of them have much knowledge of Linux side of things ââ,¬" if I wanted to invest in Linux I would be investing in technology and skills."

When asked what the company would have done if it had one Windows server in a predominantly Linux environment, Carlson said: "I wouldn't like to say. It would be a totally different scenario."

RICS is running Microsoft Commerce Server 2002, Content Management Server 2002 and BizTalk Server 2004. Carlson claimed these Web applications are better than their open source alternatives. "Windows gives us everything Linux could not offer: advanced content management and an integrated e-commerce infrastructure that can be managed in-house," said Carlson in a statement.

But Eddie Bleasdale, the director of Netproject, said that by not evaluating Linux it has RICS has "not given Linux a fair trial".

Brian Green, Novell's European director of Linux solutions, said that if RICS did not evaluate Linux, it cannot know whether Microsoft is cheaper. "As the customer has acknowledged that he didn't do a study on Linux, how can he say he's saved money?" said Green.

Green said RICS main motivation appears to be to bring the Web server back in house, rather than to move away Linux.

"The customer didn't even own the Linux infrastructure ââ,¬" all their infrastructure internally is running on Windows. They seem to have migrated from a hosted service to an internal service and are claiming it is a migration to Linux," said Green.

Sacha Labourey, JBoss' European general manager, said it is unfair to compare Linux with Commerce Server and Biztalk as they are different beasts.

"It's like comparing apples and oranges," said Labourey. "They say they've migrated from Linux to Biztalk. We're speaking about two very different things ââ,¬" Linux, which is an operating system and Biztalk, which is Web integration software."

Netproject's Bleasdale said he was surprised that RICS was moving to proprietary Web technologies, as the Web is one of the areas where open source has more market share than Microsoft. Almost 70 percent of Web sites are run on the open source Web server Apache, while only 20 percent are run on Microsoft servers, according to this month's Web server survey from Internet services company Netcraft.

Nick McGrath, head of platform strategy at Microsoft, claimed that RICS was facing a common problem of having an individual installation of Linux in a Windows environment. "We are finding increasingly that where Linux has made its way into companies it has been put into place as point solution," said McGrath.

Green vehemently disagreed with Microsoft's claim that Linux is being run for point solutions. "Nick McGrath's claim that Linux is a point solution amazes me," said Green. Oracle grew its Linux market by 360 percent [in 2003, according to a Gartner database market report]. Since when has Oracle been a point solution? I'm staggered."

Although Green disagreed with some of the points made by Microsoft, he said any publicity Microsoft generates by broadcasting RICS' move is good for Linux.

"From Novell's standpoint it's interesting that they [Microsoft] are in such a defensive position," said Green. "Any vendor that promotes Linux is good for Novell."

ZDNet UK's Ingrid Marson reported from London. For more coverage from ZDNet UK, click here.

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Talkback 4 comments

    HERE IS THE REAL STORY ON WHAT ...Anonymous -- 24/03/05

    HERE IS THE REAL STORY ON WHAT THEY DID.

    RICS initially outsourced its Web service to a company who happened to run Linux. So yes, their Web did "technically" run on Linux, but THEY didn't run it.

    So now, RICS decides to move Web administration back in-house to save costs.

    RICS is an all-Windows shop with no Linux expertise. RICS reads MS brochure on IIS, likes it, doesn't even look into the possibility of running Linux.

    Simple as that....

    And for all this, Microsoft turns it into a big press announcement of a "Microsoft Win"...

    ROFL.

    Amazing what you can do with lots of money, a huge marketing staff, and willing sheep in the (un)technical press.

    "When asked what the comp ...Anonymous -- 24/03/05

    "When asked what the company would have done if it had one Windows server in a predominantly Linux environment, Carlson said: "I wouldn't like to say. It would be a totally different scenario."'

    Tells you the whole story right there. Practically admits that he has no clue about Linux, couldn't care less, and is totally a Microsoft shill.

    Microsoft probably paid THEM to move to Windows just to produce this crap PR.

    Oh, well, fits in with the predominant attitude in business and government today - lie like a rug as long as somebody is making money. Bush, Cheney, O'Reilly, Gates, Ballmer, Laura DiDio, Rob Enderle - all the same pile of puke.

    Just wait it will not take the ...Anonymous -- 24/03/05

    Just wait it will not take them long to see the mistake. I give them a max of 3 months before someone owns their web server. Nobody in their right mind exposes a IIS server to the internet.

    Linux vendor should learn to s ...Anonymous -- 24/03/05

    Linux vendor should learn to sell value to customer but not fear of Microsft.

    -- Instead of criticizing customer of not evaluate their solution, they should critize themself not provide customers with information that their customer needed.
    -- Instead of crying that MS solution is too bad, they should tell the customer how Linux solution is good, what value Linux solution bring to their customer.
    -- Instead of selling Linux solution to whom who hate MS or who fear of MS, they should sell their Linux solution to whom who really love unique value of Linux solution

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