Google denies Street View has privacy issues

There are no privacy issues with Google Street View, a Maps-based project that offers 360-degree panoramic views of various streets in cities around the US, according to Google Australia's head of engineering.

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At the Google developer day in Sydney last week, Lars Rasmussen denied that privacy was an issue when it came to Google Street View because, he said, the images are all taken in "public areas".

"So, these are all images that anyone could go out and take with a camera. We do take great care that if someone did feel their privacy was invaded, there is a way that they can easily tell us about it and we'll remove it right away.

"But all the pictures are taken in public areas where anyone could go [and] take a picture," said Rasmussen.

We asked Rasmussen if Google would blur part of an image of someone objected to it showing, for example, their front door.

He said: "Yes, but why would you want to?"

Rasmussen's comments come despite the Street View images showing everything from people urinating on the footpath to receiving a traffic ticket and possibly conducting drug deals.

Street View Launch
Street View was launched at the Where 2.0 Conference in San Francisco last month.

While using Google Maps -- which was developed in Australia by Rasmussen's team -- if the street view feature is available, a button will show up on the maps page for the location entered.

Clicking on it brings up a window with the view and directional arrows that can be clicked on to proceed in that direction. The window can be made full screen as well, and users can zoom in on street signs, bus stops and other details.

In the company's first foray into image gathering for maps, Google workers drove vans around the selected streets for about a year and took pictures for the service, according to a Google spokesperson.

CNET News.com's Elinor Mills contributed to this story

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Talkback 29 comments

    bosh!Anonymous -- 05/06/07

    There is a world of difference between a single person taking a picture (who would have been visible and easily understood as doing so), and a not-so-obvious (or covert) camera creating images that are globally searchable and archived.

    The separation between the picture-taker and the viewer is the first change: up until recently the picture taker would likely be a single person who would be visible to the person being photographed (or their neighbors), and usually the same person would be the viewer. Now, the picture taker is much harder to spot, and the pictures are available to millions.

    technology has gone beyond what our laws were written for. Privacy law, did not contemplate the reality of the internet, because it was not possible to make images available all over the world instantly and covertly.

    It's ridiculous to pretend that google's ability to allow anyone to covertly watch you from a great distance is the same as physically standing outside the house of the person you wish to observe and taking a picture.

    Google folks are probably too smart to think these are the same things. If so, why are they lying?

    Street View sightsAnonymous -- 05/06/07

    I added all the best "Google Street View" here : http://www.geo-trotter.com/cat-street-view.php.

    There certainly IS a privacy problem hereAnonymous -- 06/06/07

    Google has done this:

    * Made public, extremely detailed images of everyone's homes in select cities, with NONE of their permissions;

    * Taken pictures of inside people's homes, through open windows, and published them for the world to see;

    * Allowed crooks to locate cars suitable for knocking off;

    * Given stalkers the ability to roughly map out the insides of a home and plan some attack on a property they've never had to visit beforehand;

    * Deliberately taken pictures with unnecessarily high resolutions, potentially allowing face recognition (Google for "Riya" for added creepiness) and number-plate lookup.

    Even television broadcasts, with an arguably smaller audience, take precautions to blur out faces and number plates to protect anonymity.

    Take some bloody responsibility, you creeps.

    I am closing my gmail account thanks to this fiasco. It's just too much for me to handle.

    What's next, picking out names and addresses inside my emails and sending out targeted junkmail based on likely common interests?

    Why not buy out eBay and link our credit card / bank account numbers up too? Yes, accepting micropayments for advert-free searching and email DOES sound juicy doesn't it.

    People -- boycott gmail, drop your gcal account, use a Scraper on the google search page.

    Enough is enough.

    problems with your argumentnhac -- 19/08/08 (in reply to #320080536)

    real estate web sites around the world have photos, addresses and details of thousands upon thousands of homes, all publically available. they even have photos of the insides!

    given the speed it takes to click from map to map, it would actually be quicker to drive around and look for the cars. and most of these photos were taken over the course of a year - do people know where or why these cars were in a place at that particular time? that kid falling off his bike in the US certainly doesn't just sit there and fall 24/7.

    you say they've given stalkers the ability to map out the internals of a house. from a view of the front window. why wouldn't they drive past and get video footage? it'd be much more accurate. you think you're going to catch someone driving past your house? wrong.

    faces and license plates get blurred in this country. IMO they should get blurred everywhere as it does open up some stalking potential if you're able to search for the last google street view location of a license plate. but as time goes on this data will be less accurate and less useful.

    seriously though, use some common sense please. most of what you've said is alarmist and just does not make sense.

    its oldAnonymous -- 09/12/08 (in reply to #320080536)

    the street view ive seen as ive sold a particular car around 8 mths ago and its still got the same one so unless ive got to pay for the full version of it to view it in real time,why would it be such a problem?

    Hah..Tahn Costelloe -- 06/06/07

    Do people forget how many times a day we are snapped in the city and other public areas?

    It is a fact that this sort of thing is becoming quite normal within our society.

    "It seems to me .... that the advance of civilisation is nothing but an exercize in the limiting of privacy." - Pelorat (Foundation's Edge, Isaac Asimov)

    Cool Street ViewAnonymous -- 18/06/07

    I added here the most amazing Street View : http://www.geo-trotter.com/cat-street-view.php

    Security riskAnonymous -- 05/08/08

    We live in a rural area and this shows a close enough shot to see every tree, every outbuilding, how far our house is to the next house. In a rural area you do not want this information available to the whole world as it poses a massive security risk both in terms of personal security and in terms of theft. This is a criminals paradise for rural areas. Street view is not a street view. On our "street" you can barely see our house we are so far from it. On rural maps they flew over the house and invaded our pricvacy. And we DO NOT have people photographing us every day round these parts, not even once a year by people we do not know.
    This has launched and we are supposed to be able to have our image removed but I can see plenty of rights of google (not using their images without permission.....ha ha ha ironic isnt it..they have taken our images without permission). CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHERE WE CAN REMOVE OUR PLACE OFF THIS SCHEME. And why isnt this an opt in rather than opt out. Just who gave google permission to do this.

    nhacnhac -- 19/08/08 (in reply to #320108619)

    the service you're complaining about is google maps. this article is about street view. the technology you're complaining about was launched in 2005.

    you're a bit late.

    the fact is, the sky above your house is public space. you don't own the airspace. any satellite can take photos from space, just as you can take photos of anything you want.

    you're paranoid. you should be more concerned about identity theft rather than someone knowing where buildings are on your property.

    Obtaining images of my houseAnonymous -- 20/03/09 (in reply to #320110054)

    Is it possible to buy images of actual days and times? My house was burgled in January, and I'd like to obtain images of my house on that day.

    waste of tax payers moneyAnonymous -- 06/08/08

    What about the hundreds of millions of dollars spent by the government in installing security to monitor potential terrorist sites? I can now view from the safety of a internet cafe how big the gaps are on the piers of Sydney harbour bridge or other large buildings, so now we can plan how big our bombs needs to be, what size, what specs to fit in these gaps or corners of buildings, and who's monitoring google street vision? Its like the scene of the new batman where the mobile phones of everyone in the city were turned into a sonar divide allowing batman to find the joker, its too much power for one man, one company. It wont be long before google becomes god.

    Privacy not an issue?!Anonymous -- 06/08/08

    I think it is a time to ignore this company. Cuil.com is as good as google.
    They've (google) become an arrogant supporter of organised crime by this. Congratulations!

    have you even used cuil?nhac -- 19/08/08 (in reply to #320109222)

    seriously? it's rubbish. try searching for something, and even if your exact search term is the domain name itself, it rarely comes up.

    i'll start using cuil when it stops sucking.

    google mapsAnonymous -- 06/08/08

    I do not want my house available for viewing on the internet...this is soooo wrong.
    crims and authorities will have a field day.

    realestate.com.aunhac -- 19/08/08 (in reply to #320109248)

    hey, you realise that realestate.com.au, domain.com.au and homehound.com.au all have photos of people's homes with the addresses, on the internet? and that's their primary source of income!

    QUICK SHUT THEM DOWN SOMEONE MIGHT USE IT FOR SOMETHING BAD LATER ON TO BREAK INTO THE HOUSES OMG OMG OMG.

    ¬_¬

    Street View&realestate.com.au or the rpvAnonymous -- 09/12/08 (in reply to #320110061)

    Googles are back in 2006 and yes there are others also and its been like better than google and free all of it,most you get a more up to date pic also google only has the last I looked at my homes and my families they had not been updated some since back to 2006 so its not some kind of conspiracy,this is life today online and its ok I dont think they would do it as they could be ive not found an up to date one yet

    Google to tell us who did the filmingAnonymous -- 07/08/08

    I'd like to know the names of the people who drove round the streets taking the film "please" Google. I'm sure they won't mind their details being disclosed and we can all have a nice friendly chat.

    so you want private employee records?nhac -- 19/08/08 (in reply to #320109333)

    what details of yours were disclosed that weren't publically available?

    what visual information was collected that wasn't available from public space?

    yet you think that's the same as contact details and assignment details for a company's employees.

    nice one.

    Get a life Google!Anonymous -- 08/08/08

    It's a bit different when you are in a train station or walking down the main street being captured on camera it's not being advertised across the world.

    Not to mention there would be no need for terrorists to send in spys, all they have to do is click onto google and there you go a full 360 degree of your target, complete with directions and travel time, couldn't be easier then that!

    Let's everyone boycott google! Have everyone remove their advertising and we'll see how google goes then!

    Get a life yourselfAnonymous -- 08/08/08 (in reply to #320109394)

    You just hate google because you know you are ugly and you don't want the rest of the world finding out.

    Several years ago I went online and found the instructions to make a nuclear weapon. Does that mean we should simply shut down the entire internet because a terrorist could do the same? The internet makes life easier for everyone, some things are good and some are bad but ultimately they are EASIER!!!

    GET THE MESSAGE LOSER.

    the point...Anonymous -- 11/08/08

    I think some people are missing the point.

    I, for example, do not mind if law enforcement agencies / the Gov. have access certain utilities like this or video me walking down a street, or happen to catch me on camera while someone near me breaks the law.. after all, this is for my own safety and in the upper extreme; the safety of the nation / world as the case may be.

    I do however object to the broadcast of my private residence to anyone in the public through the entire world without me having a prior say in the matter. Having an overhead view at a reasonably poor quaility was not too bad to handle - handy for finding relative distances to / from things or checking out overseas holiday locations, however the thought of ANYONE potentially checking out where my gates are, where my windows are, potentially the car I drive, how far from the street or neighbours the house is, what sort of natural cover surrounds my house etc is a little off-putting.

    Are theives likely to take advantage of this? Maybe not... It does not however make it any less unsettling knowing it is a potential cyber-aide to criminal activity.

    anyone can walk by and maliciously take those and you'd have no ideanhac -- 19/08/08 (in reply to #320109556)

    so, as opposed to anyone who'd be able to get access to your property being able to see it, you're upset that the people who are too far away to be able to do anything about it could see it.

    right.

    Same sort of commentsS.Holding -- 11/08/08

    This all the same sort of hysteria that has accompanied any transition into new media. When google earth hti the streets suddenly terrorists were going to do research on likely targets . . . this information is no differnt from what has been commercially availble for years. Oh I want to break into your house? I can get a $100 digital camera do a drive by of your house ANY time I like. When you leave home, hey I will walk around your yard . . . follow you to the shops . . . get real. This is just one more technology that has the potential to be misused, (and no doubt it will) but it is equally blanced out by the good it does. I have been involved in providing wireless broadband to under privileged australians (i.e. any telstra customer) for over 3 years now. Thank god for google it allows my customers to get services that would otherwise be unavailable to them.

    Really get over yourselves . . . it people like you that want to stop me renting an R rated movie before it comes in the country. That want to stop my kids caping out at the beach, that stop you drinking formt he hose, riding in the back of utes, paying my self overtime cause I work hard!! sheesh get some backbone, stop living in fear, and hard en the F. up.

    Invasion of privacy indeedAnonymous -- 13/08/08

    My family and I had to move to a rural area because of religious/family worries (and related financial concerns - since after the religious fanatics we had very little money).

    Sad to say, somehow these freaks found out where we live. ( Still don't know how.) The worst of it is, with Google street view these worrying people now have access to our whole property; they can plan how to get in past the dogs, how to access the house.

    We are seriously living in fear. (No exaggeration...if you think it is - have you ever tried leaving a repressive religion before...?)

    not relevantnhac -- 19/08/08 (in reply to #320109665)

    and how's that any different to them being able to just DRIVE past your house and take a photo, since they know where you live?

    they may have done this already and you wouldn't even know.

    it is relevantAnonymous -- 20/08/08 (in reply to #320110059)

    it's different because they did not just take a pic of our street. They flew over us (which our relatives would not have been able to do) and took pics of the whole property. (Including parts we have not had the money to fence...).

    wait, i'm confusednhac -- 20/08/08 (in reply to #320110127)

    are you saying that the google street view for your street was taken from a plane? or are you talking about google maps?

    it kind of sounds like you've gotten the two technologies confused.

    i've been stalked and threatened by obsessed crazies before. i secured my home and defended myself and they changed their minds about the confrontation. not saying this is the best plan for you, but i get where you're coming from. the thing is, if someone is determined, they'll get the data they want. if they're smart, they'll drive past once for recon anyway before trying anything.

    Public spaceDan Hill -- 14/08/08

    People, understand that a street is *public space*.

    The ridiculous and damaging isolationism and indvidualism that has been engendered in Australia (and other 'western' countries in the last few decades) has somehow deeply damaged peoples' perception of space.

    And do you really think thieves had a problem "identifying cars suitable for knocking off" or "planning attacks in property"? I did't see how that 'business' suffered from lack of information beforehand. As if there weren't far higher rates of domestic robbery, petty theft decades ago. (There were. And guess what, amazingly they didn't have StreetView to facilitate that.) A ludicrous idea, based on deeper fear of sharing a space with other people.

    This is hardly the decline of civilisation. Conversely, understanding that your private house is part of a shared public space called 'the street' might even lead to a more mature and civilised community, understanding of the push and pull between personal and public. It might even lead to a richer understanding of what a street is. That's not what Google had in mind I'm sure, and it's a stretch beyond its primary use case, but it is worth thinking about what these paranoid proclamations actually say about the people making them, rather than some abstract and nebulous fear of 'invasion of privacy'.

    It's telling most of you hide behind the monicker 'anonymous' yet apparently want to engage in a free and open exchange of ideas. Can't have it both ways. If you want full anonymity, don't live in a human settlement. Equally, what's inside your house is private, fair enough (and Google hasn't gone there). But that area outside? That's a glorious shared space. Occupy that space with activity, and you'll find that that's how crime diminishes.

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