Browsers become business bugbear

commentary The debate between Microsoft's Internet Explorer and Mozilla Firefox has intensified in recent months.

Media columnists have put forth the merits of their case; an overwhelming number believe the time is right to bury Internet Explorer.

The security flaws plaguing Internet Explorer has led to a renewed interest in other browser options, with market research pointing to Firefox as the leading choice. But a bigger problem, if left unresolved, could lead to corporate bottom lines being affected.

Here's an example to mull over.

"Your browser version is not supported. By continuing you may experience decreased performance." This message greets Mozilla Firefox and Opera users attempting to access the online banking service of the nation's leading lender, the National Australia Bank (NAB).

As a Firefox user and an NAB customer, it irks me each time I have to revert to Internet Explorer even for simple tasks like checking my account balance.

The NAB isn't alone in giving preferential treatment to Microsoft Internet Explorer and Netscape users. Other Web sites such as Westpac and Citibank -- which use browsers as a conduit for online transactions -- have similar restrictions.

I can understand Microsoft's move in planting hurdles for its competitors. That's only natural. Its Windows Update service, for instance, can't be directly accessed by non-IE browsers due to ActiveX controls. Users have to instead proceed to the Microsoft Download Center and click on Windows (Security & Updates) to download the latest security updates.

What's wrong with this picture? Why would a commercial entity deliberately turn away business? Or do I smell a whiff of laziness in the air?

It's only a matter of time before I switch banks. The NAB seems to be oblivious to Internet Explorer's security problems and Netscape's plunge in popularity. To a customer, this goes to show that the bank is living in its own world.

If the NAB and others of its ilk are serious about customer retention, it's time for action.

First, wake up to the fact that Internet Explorer is losing its dominant position in the browser world. Stop designing Web pages to suit one or two browsers and come to the realisation that competition is heating up by the day: now there's even talk of Google joining the fray. So, please start coding and testing Web pages on different browsers!

There's no telling what the future holds since the browser market is still in its infancy. But one thing's for sure: Australia's eight million online banking users deserve choice and must not be ruled by a set of fatuous parameters.

To the NAB, a word of advice: it's time to stop alienating customers with unnecessary barriers and start conforming to usability standards -- you know, the basics?

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  1. I've had no problems using Firefox to access online banking at the NAB. As a web developer I disagree with putting up notices telling people to change their web browser but I can understand the problems they have with supporting every version of every web Anonymous -- 06/10/04

    I've had no problems using Firefox to access online banking at the NAB. As a web developer I disagree with putting up notices telling people to change their web browser but I can understand the problems they have with supporting every version of every web browser on every platform. Just select the option to stop the warning page coming up and get over it.

  2. the issue here is standards compliance. simple as that. nab and co should get their act together Anonymous -- 06/10/04

    the issue here is standards compliance. simple as that. nab and co should get their act together

  3. Yes I agree standards compliance is the real issue. The web was founded on standards and it's about time it was recognised that some vendors (MS in particular) have tried hard to undermine world-wide standards for their own monopolistic purpose Anonymous -- 06/10/04

    Yes I agree standards compliance is the real issue.

    The web was founded on standards and it's about time it was recognised that some vendors (MS in particular) have tried hard to undermine world-wide standards for their own monopolistic purposes. Don't let them get away with it!

  4. NAB Net Banking works fine with Firefox and any standard browser. It does not require any special Internet Explorer components. The page is more of a "if you have problems we can't provide support for your browser". The page does allow you to co Anonymous -- 06/10/04

    NAB Net Banking works fine with Firefox and any standard browser. It does not require any special Internet Explorer components. The page is more of a "if you have problems we can't provide support for your browser". The page does allow you to continue onto netbanking and furthermore it allows you to set a cookie that in order for the site not to show that message again for a while. Which is a fair enough compromise.

    I've been a NAB net banker for a long time and this one is a lot nicer than the bloated and evil Java app they used to have.

    Yes things should be more standard (I'm a big believer in open standards) but for businesses there are ton of issues with what to support. You can not expect a business to support every browser out there. Allowing people to contine using the service after giving a fair warning is a good compromise especially from such a large organisation.

  5. Opera has no problem here - you have the option to have Opera identify itself as MSIE6.0, Mozilla or Opera (possibly one of the reasons the stats show a much lower number of Opera users than the downloads would suggest). I have muine set to MSIE6 - save a Anonymous -- 06/10/04

    Opera has no problem here - you have the option to have Opera identify itself as MSIE6.0, Mozilla or Opera (possibly one of the reasons the stats show a much lower number of Opera users than the downloads would suggest). I have muine set to MSIE6 - save a lot of hassles.

  6. How rare - a good article that tells it like it is. Business needs to hire web developers, or use web development/services providers, that don't come from the microsoft-or-else school of thought. About the NAB - what do you expect from an institution with Anonymous -- 06/10/04

    How rare - a good article that tells it like it is. Business needs to hire web developers, or use web development/services providers, that don't come from the microsoft-or-else school of thought. About the NAB - what do you expect from an institution with its track record?

  7. I use Westpac banking and broking with Firefox on both Windows and Linux and have done so for several months with no problem at all. Anonymous -- 06/10/04

    I use Westpac banking and broking with Firefox on both Windows and Linux and have done so for several months with no problem at all.

  8. Get a life Fran ;) I too "smell a whiff of laziness in the air", but its more to do with lack of a new story line. Sorry but "browser market is still in its infancy" and "eight million online banking users ... ruled by a set Anonymous -- 06/10/04

    Get a life Fran ;)
    I too "smell a whiff of laziness in the air", but its more to do with lack of a new story line. Sorry but "browser market is still in its infancy" and "eight million online banking users ... ruled by a set of fatuous parameters", I know we are in the month of political alarmism but please, not here.

    Many posts suggest other readers can survive in the real world.

  9. I've recently changed banks for my company over this very issue after trying not only FireFox but Safari, Mozilla, Netscape and OmniWeb. All of these browsers failed to get past some ActiveX controls. I had no success in trying to bring this to the atte Anonymous -- 07/10/04

    I've recently changed banks for my company over this very issue after trying not only FireFox but Safari, Mozilla, Netscape and OmniWeb. All of these browsers failed to get past some ActiveX controls. I had no success in trying to bring this to the attention of the IS staff of Columbia Credit Union in Vancouver, Washington so I simply changed accounts to a friendlier bank.

  10. The NAB online banking site works well with both Firefox and Safari. I agree with your point about developers using agnostic coding that supports all browsers, however pillorying developers who have adopted that approach can only be counter pro Anonymous -- 07/10/04

    The NAB online banking site works well with both Firefox and Safari.

    I agree with your point about developers using agnostic coding that supports all browsers, however pillorying developers who have adopted that approach can only be counter productive.

    I think you owe the NAB team a public retraction for your poorly researched commentary.

    Steve

  11. Fran I appreciate you thoughts about standards. However, in reality, there are a number of ways standards can be implemented. In the case of IE and Netscape, these standards were implemented differently which has caused a number of de Anonymous -- 07/10/04

    Fran

    I appreciate you thoughts about standards.

    However, in reality, there are a number of ways standards can be implemented. In the case of IE and Netscape, these standards were implemented differently which has caused a number of developers a great deal of frustration !!!

    In addition, we also need to appreciate that there are costs (ie, Netbanking is not a free service) involved to ensure that an application behaves uniformly across multiple platforms with varying browser types and versions. Therefore, to get the 'biggest' bang for you buck, concentrating on IE & Netscape is understandable.

  12. ANZ online banking works fine with Firefox. ;-) Anonymous -- 07/10/04

    ANZ online banking works fine with Firefox. ;-)

  13. St George banking actively blocks firefox or any other browser on Linux. I get really sick of these idiots who develop so-called "web applications" that only work with proprietary browsers. For gods sake use standards! do we really wan Anonymous -- 07/10/04

    St George banking actively blocks firefox or any other browser on Linux. I get really sick of these idiots who develop so-called "web applications" that only work with proprietary browsers.

    For gods sake use standards! do we really want a "MS-only" internet? Just think about the consequences of that...

  14. I've had no problems using the Citibank or CBA sites with Firefox. They work fine. Anonymous -- 09/10/04

    I've had no problems using the Citibank or CBA sites with Firefox. They work fine.

  15. Its all about development version control. NAB site developed and tested on one/two/three browser types where other banks have probably developed and tested on a broader range of browsers. IE/Opera/Mozilla aside, its going to become harder for Anonymous -- 11/10/04

    Its all about development version control. NAB site developed and tested on one/two/three browser types where other banks have probably developed and tested on a broader range of browsers.

    IE/Opera/Mozilla aside, its going to become harder for companies to allow their customers to self server BEFORE it becomes easier.

    WAP/PDA/Watch/Car/Kitchen appliance/DVD/Game Console browsers are here and regardless of any html, java, other standards EACH one will have its own 'lock in' features to help it sell.

    When we start looking behind the presentation layer its gets even worse but lets not go into that here...

  16. What idiot would bank with the NAB anyway.Why not stick with the tried and true Netscape, no problems on anybank, and who designed Firefox? Anonymous -- 11/10/04

    What idiot would bank with the NAB anyway.Why not stick with the tried and true Netscape, no problems on anybank, and who designed Firefox?

  17. Westpac for one works perfectly well for me with both Opera and Firefox. Anonymous -- 14/10/04

    Westpac for one works perfectly well for me with both Opera and Firefox.

  18. The only thing I found I had to do with several banks to get Firefox to work is install Suns Java. This is with XP. 98 seems to work without needing Sun Java installed. I haven't tried 2k yet. Anonymous -- 17/11/04

    The only thing I found I had to do with several banks to get Firefox to work is install Suns Java. This is with XP. 98 seems to work without needing Sun Java installed. I haven't tried 2k yet.

  19. The only thing I found I had to do with several banks to get Firefox to work is install Suns Java. This is with XP. 98 seems to work without needing Sun Java installed. I haven't tried 2k yet. Anonymous -- 17/11/04

    The only thing I found I had to do with several banks to get Firefox to work is install Suns Java. This is with XP. 98 seems to work without needing Sun Java installed. I haven't tried 2k yet.

  20. I have found that to use Firefox with several banks I had to have Sun Java installed in XP. I did not need in 98 and have not tried it in 2k. That was with the Commonwealth and a couple of building societies. No mention was made about the browser when log Anonymous -- 17/11/04

    I have found that to use Firefox with several banks I had to have Sun Java installed in XP. I did not need in 98 and have not tried it in 2k. That was with the Commonwealth and a couple of building societies. No mention was made about the browser when logging in to them.

  21. I have found that to use Firefox with several banks I had to have Sun Java installed in XP. I did not need in 98 and have not tried it in 2k. That was with the Commonwealth and a couple of building societies. No mention was made about the browser when log Anonymous -- 17/11/04

    I have found that to use Firefox with several banks I had to have Sun Java installed in XP. I did not need in 98 and have not tried it in 2k. That was with the Commonwealth and a couple of building societies. No mention was made about the browser when logging in to them.

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