Browser makers warned against ad-blocking

The end of free Internet content will come when Web browsers start blocking online advertisements by default, a DoubleClick executive has warned.

Bennie Smith, the online advertising network's privacy chief, told ZDNet Australia  the popularity of tools like Adblock -- an extension to the Mozilla Firefox browser -- which makes blocking online ads simple was tied to "a negative vibe against advertising in general".

However, only the online arena is able to easily produce and widely distribute such tools, he added.

He said if a similar tool could be produced for newspapers, it would not be accepted by consumers.

"You'd go to your local corner shop and buy the daily paper, and you'd have these large holes where the ads were.

"You'd somehow feel like your 25 cents had not gotten full value," he said.

Part of the Internet's value proposition lies in the provision of large amounts of free content. "But that content is not without cost. And that cost is my eyeballs seeing an ad on a page. Or within an e-mail, or next to my search results, or however it's going to come," Smith explained.

If any browser manufacturer considered implementing an ad-blocking feature as a default option, Smith said they should consider their own position as a marketer [of their own products] and a publisher of content.

"They would be harming their own customer relationships to create a short-term, short-sighted, limited-effectiveness tool," he said. "One that they would probably end up having to withdraw from the market."

If enough people started blocking ads, Smith warned that publishers would start charging for content.

"In an offline world, what would happen in that case is that the 25c newspaper would cost $5," he said.

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    Oh what a bleeding heart Mr Sm ...Anonymous -- 23/06/05

    Oh what a bleeding heart Mr Smith (if that is his real name) is.

    He's really worried about his company's bottom line.

    If he cared to look around, he would find many successful web sites that run ad-free, or offer ad-free subscription based access that allow those of us who want to live without ads, but get valuable information, all for a low cost.

    Perhaps Mr Smith would like to investigate why people are wanting to turn off ads in their browsers. Maybe the ads are too invasive. Maybe flashing graphics make it very hard to read real text elsewhere on the page. Maybe some of the ads that are delivered are not appropriate to the site being visited. Maybe the user doesn't want to have to pay extra download usage charges to download the 80 KB Flash graphic ad on the page with 2 KB of text.

    This definitely looks like a p ...Anonymous -- 23/06/05

    This definitely looks like a press-release-made-into-news kinda stuff. My heart always bleeds for this kind of articles and standard of journalism.

    I guess it's like flicking the ...Anonymous -- 23/06/05

    I guess it's like flicking the remote when an ad comes on television.

    Online businesses can't afford to have their ads not reach their audience so banner ads might be a necessary evil if people want up to date, independant content without it being too intrusive.

    Idiots on previous posts don't see the point that content (whether you like the content or not) will dry up if ads are essentially useless. People won't pay for online content, plain and simple..

    Bennie Smith said "You'd ...Anonymous -- 23/06/05

    Bennie Smith said "You'd somehow feel like your 25 cents had not gotten full value".

    Wrong, wrong, wrong! I'd be absolutely overjoyed to never seen another advert for the rest of my life!

    I'm not interested in seeing advertising at all. I'm quite capable of finding my own information and doing my own research if I want to buy something.

    This is typical of the rubbish we often hear from people who work in advertising. They are deluded if they think anyone wants to see it - it's just that some people don't hate it as much as others. No-one wants adverts - just get used to it!

    Technically it is difficult to ...Anonymous -- 23/06/05

    Technically it is difficult to block unobtrusive ads, such as Google's sponsored ads, which are much more similar to ads in newspapers than those typically blocked by browsers. If a newspaper was able to put in ads that popped up over the articles, were distastefully animated, or distracted the reader with noise, it is likely that the no one would buy the newspaper whether it cost 5 cents or 5 dollars. Ad blocking is in response to that type of advertising, not advertising similar to newspapers. Not recognizing this difference is a poor analysis of the issue.

    Save my eyes! Anonymous -- 02/10/09 (in reply to #120118533)

    The trend towards flash ads has gotten out of control. I don't mind advertisers trying to make a bit of money by putting an add here and there on the page. I'll even go so far as to not mind if they have moving elements. All I ask is that they are static when I come to a page and let me have the option to play them or not. The auto-play, auto-sound ones drive me crazy and do not make me want to buy their products. They also make it difficult for me to concentrate on the text I am trying to read, making me less likely to revisit a site.

    Advertisers need to respect their audience and let us read online content in peace!

    I don't think banners and othe ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    I don't think banners and other not too intrusive ads are that much of a bother. The problem with many ads is that the servers they reside on are overloaded. This means that a normal (short) page with mostly text can fail to load at all since they are designed to load the ad first.

    It's not so much that I hate b ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    It's not so much that I hate being advertised to, more that I loathe and detest it with a frightening fervor; particularly invasive advertisements.

    I couldn't help but chuckle at the fact that there's a big hole in the article, because I've blocked everything from doubleclick.net. It didn't bother me to have a hole instead of some undoubtedly, annoying flashing advert, really.

    I'm stuck in dialup hell. Must ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    I'm stuck in dialup hell. Must I endure 4 x 50kbyte gifs for a full 40 seconds of wait so I can see a page of text that takes 5 seconds to load?

    Is that his point?.

    Absolutely preposterous.

    Get the annoyance out of web ads and I'll watch 'em.

    Stop creating adds that flash, ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    Stop creating adds that flash, scroll, gyrate, block my page, pop-up, pop-under, open 100's of windows, track my viewing habits, force me to endure watching prior to showing the content that I am interested in, and I will not block them. I do not block the text adds and sponsored links from Google because they do not infuriate me. I actually even click on them sometimes. Sometimes less is more.

    His comment that people would ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    His comment that people would feel cheated if they found blank spots in their 25c newspaper is ridiculous for two reasons.
    (1) Nobody would complain if the ads disappeared from newspapers;
    (2) Daily newspapers stopped being 25c (in the U.S.) a long time ago. Even the Washington Post went to 35c after being 25c for years.
    If they feel they want to start charging for content, that's their privelege. Whether their content is worth what they want to charge, that's another.

    These are the comments of an obnoxious advertiser who can't stomach the fact that their ads are so unpalatable that people are avoiding them. And I am also curious as to exactly how they are going to know that their ads are not being seen. Perhaps they can do comparisons of hit rates for content pages vs. hit rates for ads but that won't last long. I suspect the next step to prevent this is to query the ad servers but don't display the content; they will never know their garbage was not seen.

    This is the whining of some failed wannabe who can't figure out how to compete in the real world, and instead wants to roll the clock back to an easier time, just like the buggy whip makers and blacksmiths wished the automobile would not damage their business model.

    I've mixed thoughts on this. ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    I've mixed thoughts on this. On the one side, I have no problems with the ads on Google or even web pages that show ads or banners. On the other side, I loathe pop-up ads that force me to watch, spawn another ad for each one I close, and things of that nature. If advertising companies kept it simple, such as displayed on the same page as the content so I can read the content and ignore the ads if I so choose, then I might even look at them. If, however, other companies insist on using pop-up ads, then I will continue to block them as I prefer to read the content and not be forced to read what someone who does not know me thinks I shold be interested in.

    Imagine this. You get you pap ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    Imagine this. You get you paper and open it. As you're trying to read your paper, someone throws an advertisment at you and someone else places an advertisement between you and your paper. How long would you stand for this? In general, people do not hate ads because they pay for content. People hate the intrusive manner in which ads are delivered. It's the advertising companies who have the short sighted goals and don't understand they are hurting themselves and the sites they're displayed on.

    Thanks for the link to Adblock ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    Thanks for the link to Adblock.
    Maybe I can kill those flash ads that bog my PC down

    If I did not use AdBlock on Fi ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    If I did not use AdBlock on Firefox, I would not be able to load this article in under 3 minutes using broadband. If ads, especially those from double-click, did not take so much more time to load than the content I want to see, I would not have to use AdBlock.

    I cannot believe that an Internet-based company wants to limit the functionallity of any kind of software. How about we limit the security and stability of the web servers your company uses to feed annoyances across the web?
    Because so many companies "got fat" for the sole reason that Microsoft dominated (and still dominates) the browser market and that they would never add functionallity into thier products to limit a non-competing company's revenue even thought that is what the consumer would like, is no reason to keep these giant gas-bags afloat.
    This technology allows the browser user to preemptivly block content thier browser renders, this can help with speed, blocking unwanted ads or pictures, keep from being forced to request other websites for traking purposes, and is has many other uses all controled by the user.

    And who better to have the power to stop sites from tracking them and to keep malicious software from permiating thier computer.

    There will always be those that provide free content without ads like me http://www.ominousharbinger.com.

    What "Smith" fails t ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    What "Smith" fails to realize is that adverstisng in a newspaper doesn't cloud the information that a user is reading.
    ...Not to mention how thrilled I'd be if I could purchase a newspaper without advertisement....the paper would stop breaking the seams out of my back pocket. :)

    A cable company in my area is ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    A cable company in my area is blasting commercials for their service showing digital television sets that are cut up like a newspaper without ads. Even they do not see their ads are already blocking the intended content, turning people off. "Free content" these days has more of a cost than people are willing to put out ever since the double click generation of marketers came to light. This is nothing but a last gasp of air for their business model. The only suggestion I could offer is "get a real job". Provide goods and services for the people. If the people do not like what you have, they will tell you, as you have just stated they are doing right now. When you shut down, let me know. I will need to remove doubleclick from all the firewalls and DNS tables translating the address to local machines.

    what a moron. HIS ads are bloc ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    what a moron. HIS ads are blocked because he is stupid. Smith preys on the retards of the world and feels good about it. anytime i see a bannerad that says HIT THE ASSHAT WIN AN IPOD, it quickly gets adblocked. when i want to look at ads, i go to google. funny, those ads tell me exactly what i want and are actually helpful.

    The internet managed just fine ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    The internet managed just fine before advertising...

    and it'll manage just fine if the adverpushers dry up. good content will still be provided by people out of the goodness of their own hearts, and paid content will cover the rest.

    want your advert to be seen by people and not ignored? then look to google for inspiration, not flash.

    At least the Target flyer in t ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    At least the Target flyer in the Sunday paper doesn't climb up in my lap and rub itself in my face repeatedly. Maybe -- no, make that ABSOLUTELY ('cause I already do it) -- I'd leave the ads alone if they weren't so intrusive.

    Please note that Froogle doesn't have !@#%^!@#!! flash animations yet, and they're all about advertising -- maybe they listen to their customers?

    Ad-blockers are a response to ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    Ad-blockers are a response to several things:
    1) popups, popunders, etc. They are annoying and obtrusive. Kind of like going to a mall and having every salesman in the place come up to you at the same time shouting their pitch in your face.
    2) The new pop-in flashes (you know, the ones that slide in over top your page content)
    3) noisy adverts. I absolutely, positively abhor sounds in adverts.
    4) Adware. Advertisers do NOT have a right to secretly install ANYTHING on my computer. Ever.
    5) "Click-through" adverts. No one has a right to require a click on their product before I can see content.

    Ads that are OK:
    1) Banner ads, even animated.
    2) 'Tween-content ads, the type where if you click for an article, you get an advert with a "skip this ad" thing. I'm used to fast forwarding through commercials.
    3) Sideline ads, similar to banner.
    4) In-content ads, preferably not animated.

    People block all ads to avoid the annoying ones. Stick to the non-annoying ads, and you won't have a problem.

    Amazing. Not a drop of sympat ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    Amazing. Not a drop of sympathy from anyone! Quite likely no one is surprised to hear DoubleClick complain about this since it is DoubleClick's business model that is in the crapper.

    Bye, bye, DoubleClick! I hope your private hell is plastered with obnoxious, blinking, Flash ads!

    I wasn't sure what this " ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    I wasn't sure what this "doubleclick" agency was, so I checked my ad-block list. It's the first one on there (*doubleclick*). Funny that.

    I think this guy's just spouting sour grapes.

    Interesting, end of all that c ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    Interesting, end of all that cool free stuff... I highly doubt that, there are peopel in the world that do put free stuff out with no adds of any kind, there is also this thinng called open source...

    When I buy a local or internat ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    When I buy a local or international newspaper, I am spending up front for full content. I know there are ads, and I often WANT the ads. It is a choice on my side of the purchase. This is not the same as web ads. I may elect to pay or not to pay for web content, but ads are usually there in my face regardless of my decision. I applaud "Adblock". I can use it if I want or not, and sometimes, I don't want to use it. It is up to the advertizer to make ads that I want to look at and click on. Regarding a browser w/default ad-blocking, would this "feature" be tweaked by the user? I would tweak it to show ads unless I block them. I think other people would, too.

    When I buy a local or internat ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    When I buy a local or international newspaper, I am spending up front for full content. I know there are ads, and I often WANT the ads. It is a choice on my side of the purchase. This is not the same as web ads. I may elect to pay or not to pay for web content, but ads are usually there in my face regardless of my decision. I applaud "Adblock". I can use it if I want or not, and sometimes, I don't want to use it. It is up to the advertizer to make ads that I want to look at and click on. Regarding a browser w/default ad-blocking, would this "feature" be tweaked by the user? I would tweak it to show ads unless I block them. I think other people would, too.

    The thing to do is to use Adbl ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    The thing to do is to use Adblock, but with a little care.

    Do not block every advertisment, but rather, only those companies that generate pop-up or pop-under based ads, or else ones that cross a threshold of annoyance.

    Just as sites have a right to advertising revenue, so we have a right to accept ads that do not break the flow of the perusal of content.

    The idea of blocking the company, rather than just the specific advertisment is to cause the forces of competition to favour those companies who have a policy against excessively intrusive advertisments.

    Without having to compete for attension, a quieter advertisment should be ample.

    hmmm have you ever think what ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    hmmm have you ever think what is the difference between e.g. google adSense (which we are (mostly) not blocking) and js/flash ad which is blinking, playing quasi-music, and covers the page content... and which yes we are blocking?

    Adblocking is the *beginning* ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    Adblocking is the *beginning* of the free, as in freedom, internet. This means that you will only see the ads you want to see. Pop-ups, pop-unders, and the like are an invasion of privacy, and a blow to free will of people.

    Hey we gotta think of more int ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    Hey we gotta think of more intrusive ways to display ads on peoples' machines! Pop-ups are blocked too much so let's use Flash to bypass that and pop-up ads anyway! Oh noes!! People are still mad and blocking our Flash ads now! It's the end of free content because we can't advertise!

    Wake up greedy zombies. If you start giving us content on our terms, perhaps we will stop blocking it! Conforming to the needs of the consumer, WHAT A CONCEPT! This is not the end of free content, it's the end of intrusive advertising. Nobody cares about embedded advertising banners.

    I agree with the general idea ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    I agree with the general idea that ad-blocking can be bad for online services like news papers etc. However the reason people use ad-blocking is not because of the ads on websites - much like people do not really care about ads in normal newspapers. What makes people, including me, extreamly irritated is the folowing:

    1) tracking cookies
    2) pop-ups, new pages
    3) ads that cover the contents

    Industry, including the websites that use these types of adverticing really only has themself to blame. People want to read the content, but do not want their browser "highjacked" by adverticement. Plenty of manjor newspapers use both pop-ups and automatically open new pages with other contents.

    Please do continue with smaller ads and banners. They help pay for content that I want to access. But do not make the adverticement larger than the content. Also, if you use adverticing, please use fast servers. Many ad-servers are slow and unresponding - causing the browsing experience to be poor.

    Like the RIAA, Doubleclick is ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    Like the RIAA, Doubleclick is clueless. Ads like the sponsered ones on the bottom seem to be quite acceptable and no developers have released tools to block them while intrusive ads by Doubleclick are blocked left and right. Maybe Doubleclick should stop blaming the users and start blaming themselves for the backlash their business model has created.

    You must be kidding? I would ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    You must be kidding? I would feel cheated that I got the same information but without the annoying ads? Maybe if I was buying the paper to GET the ads, but I'm not. I'm going to the web site to read their content, ideas, opinions, etc. - not loud obnoxious flash/popups that distract me and try to trick me into giving personal information out to be used for further advertising and spam.

    Hey. Bennie Smith. You're an i ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    Hey. Bennie Smith. You're an idiot.

    Ads are bandwidth theft...I pa ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    Ads are bandwidth theft...I pay for my bandwidth so if you wand to display an ad on my screen, then pay for my bandwidth!

    There's no "negative vibe ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    There's no "negative vibe toward advertising in general" there's just a negative vibe toward bad/super annoying advertising and rampant porn advertising. I dunno, but for me, sitting down with my wife and trying to help her do medical research on the internet is a better experience when random loads of XXX garbage don't pop up all over the place. Or, you know, when her little brother is looking around for Star Wars stuff and gets blasted in the face with a picture of a naked woman, it kinda makes me wanna do something about it, ya know?

    That's where your negative vibe is coming from.

    Oh, and a million "Shoot the duck and win a house!" popups everywhere don't help either.

    Funny, when I read this articl ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    Funny, when I read this article, there was a banner on the top from "http://ad.au.doubleclick.net/".
    What was the first thing I did? Adblock.

    Screw banner advertisers. I know exactly what I'm doing by using Adblock, and that's pushing things towards Google-like advertising that acutally has a chance in hell of showing me something I care about. Those, I never block.

    Gee, Since when do I have to ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    Gee, Since when do I have to listen to idiots when *I* PAY for the access to the Internet, AND for the equpiment that makes it all work ???
    This person (I cannot forget his name quickly enough) and his 'doubleclick' company can go the way of the dodo.
    IF he pays me for the use of my computer, AND pays me for the portion of *MY* bandwidth that he uses, THEN, and ONLY then, can he complain about me blocking *ALL* content from doubleclick.
    B.T.W.: He has so many BIG 'ADs' coming from his site that 'doubleclick' slows down access to almost every page he has an advertizement on !! Which is why I block EVERYTHING from them !!

    This guy is an idiot if he thi ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    This guy is an idiot if he thinks that ad-blocking will end the free content of the net. I guess that means that myself as well as countless others who have free content available will just have to STOP. Get a clue idiot, you'll just have to find another way to push your intrusive garbage onto people.

    "You'd somehow feel like ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    "You'd somehow feel like your 25 cents had not gotten full value," he said.

    That's right! we all buy our papers to get our daily dose of wonderful advertising! If only they'd remove all that annoying news content....

    Good. The sooner you dolts sto ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    Good. The sooner you dolts stop wanting everything for free and start paying, the sooner the internet will be an enjoyable experience and companies like doubleclick will die.

    Advertisements only pay when s ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    Advertisements only pay when someone is buys what is being advertised. I have never bought anything advertised on a website. That doesn't mean I've never bought anything over the web, it just means I only buy stuff that I am interested in, and I decide when to become interested in something. For example, I recently bought a car. I never clicked a single car advertisement. I searched and researched and only then did I buy a car. Had the information about the car not been available, ie. had the "content=independent reviews, etc" not been available. I'd have been less likely to buy the car.

    Ads versus Adware. I dont mind ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    Ads versus Adware. I dont mind seeing an ad on a website. I do however mind adware installing on my system bogging it down with unneccessary processes that I didnt ask to have installed. When I read the newspaper, the ads don't take over the articles, they don't adhere themselves to my being and keep track of how I spend my day so some marketing department can create better ads.

    I would be happy to click an ad knowing that it will benefit someones website that I enjoy visiting if I know that my computer is safe from being invaded.

    Doubleclick puts up the most a ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    Doubleclick puts up the most annoying ads on the planet. They have large, flashy Flash ads, popups, popovers (which I utterly despise), massive images, and persue new and more evil ways of shoving a message right in our face.

    Google is an advertising company. They are making billions. Notice how unobtrusive their ads are? I would never block a google ad, because they are so easy to ignore when I choose to.

    Doubleclick is a dinosaur. If they don't change their ways, they deserve to be extinct.

    WHAT 25 CENT NEWSPAPERS????? T ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    WHAT 25 CENT NEWSPAPERS?????

    Take your f*cking banner ads and shove them up your *ss.

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

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    <deep breath>

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

    Mr. Smith's comments are simpl ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    Mr. Smith's comments are simple and understandable in the context of his position.

    Unfortunately for Mr. Smith and his company (et al), this is a free market.

    And in a free market, the customer has the final say.

    Ergo, if people want ad-blocking, they'll have it. And they do.

    Further, if they want it by default, they'll have it. His plea to browser mfrs to abstain from making such a decision is specious. Mozilla.org surely doesn't have the concern. Microsoft is too large to be significantly impacted by any fallout. And both (along with others) are in a position to engineer alternatives if they care to work with the publishing industry to arrive at such. To the complete and utter exclusion of parasitic enterprises such as Doubleclick.

    It is only a matter of time, and will. Plenty of both are evident.

    The newspaper analogy is so fraught with irrelevancy one shouldn't bother deconstructing it.

    "Doubleclick is their own ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    "Doubleclick is their own worst enemy. It's not just the trashy ads, but their spyware cookies and other means of tracking internet users. Here's a clue for those ****s: We're not here for your convenience. We pay for our bandwidth and that doesn't mean you're entitled to it. If your customer sites want to find a different way to make money, have at it. Another site will find a less obtrusive way to get their advertising in front of consumers by offering the same content. That's the way the free market works. They win, you lose. And it couldn't happen to a more deserving company."

    And so we'll no longer have co ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    And so we'll no longer have commercial websites... The best content usually is found on privately owned sites which will always be free to visitors because we webmasters pay for them. We are not going away (after all our sites have been ad free from the start) and if ad sponsered websites go away we won't miss them at all!

    I use adblock, and I'm becomin ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    I use adblock, and I'm becoming more effective with it by the day. However, if the ads weren't displayed in such an obnoxious and distracting way (i.e. using flash, blinking, cycling, etc.) I wouldn't invest the effort, and I might even read one.

    As it stands right now, they **** me off, and give me a negative impression for the products they advertise.

    He is correct saying that if s ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    He is correct saying that if someone went through my news paper and cut out all of the ads I would feel cheated. Not because I didn't have the ads, but because the large gaping holes that were cut out would have content other than advertising on the back side of it.

    I'm a proud AdBlock user. I am tired of intrusive advertising. I'm taking back my internet.

    In other news, "NAMBLA Wa ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    In other news, "NAMBLA Warns Cub Scouts Against
    Firing Pedophiles".

    "He said if a similar too ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    "He said if a similar tool could be produced for newspapers, it would not be accepted by consumers."

    In newspapers, you're paying for HARD COPY. You can pull the same news information off free TV or free broadcast radio.

    ""You'd somehow feel like your 25 cents had not gotten full value," he said."

    If those hole chopped out portions of the content? Sure! You damn betcha! If all it clipped out were JUST the ads (like a black marker), **** no.

    ""But that content is not without cost. And that cost is my eyeballs seeing an ad on a page. Or within an e-mail, or next to my search results, or however it's going to come," Smith explained."

    I call bull****. If someone wants to make money off their content, at least be honest about it. CHARGE FOR IT. But no. You have to perform a form of minor bandwidth theft. You push the content I want, sure. But you also push unwanted content (ads) on me as well. Without my consent. So forgive me for protecting the amount of bandwidth I utilize.

    What's more, some of these ads are MUCh more than "minor" bandwidth theft. Hundreds upon hundreds of kilo/megabytes of flash, etc.

    And, unlike an ad on TV, or in the paper, it's pushed at me over and over again as I browse around.

    ""They would be harming their own customer relationships to create a short-term, short-sighted, limited-effectiveness tool," he said. "One that they would probably end up having to withdraw from the market.""

    Translation, all of us leech companies would have to spend out money on a lawyer (yet another type of leech) and sue you to get it kiboshed.

    "If enough people started blocking ads, Smith warned that publishers would start charging for content."

    LET THEM DAMMIT!

    If the want to charge for content delivery, that's their right!

    Just as it's people's right NOT to decide that they don't want it badly enough to pay. It'd also help to curb this development of instant-gratification limited attention spans.

    If you want it NOW, and you want it badly enough, you'll pay for it.

    If you want it and you don't want to pay for it, you'll have to wait until they make it available for free. Until then, you can't look at it.

    ""In an offline world, what would happen in that case is that the 25c newspaper would cost $5," he said."

    Like a magazine? One that's STILL filled with advertisment?

    Bull****. Advertising is a revenue stream. If people don't act in a manner that allows you to generate that stream, they're not stealing from you. You just chose a bad stream. Find one that ****ing works and quit yer ****in'.

    "Invalidate our business ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    "Invalidate our business model and... well... you'll be sorry! Really sorry!" Obviously the next thing to do is start filing lawsuits.

    I use adblock, and I'm becomin ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    I use adblock, and I'm becoming more effective with it by the day. However, if the ads weren't displayed in such an obnoxious and distracting way (i.e. using flash, blinking, cycling, etc.) I wouldn't invest the effort, and I might even read one.

    As it stands right now, they **** me off, and give me a negative impression for the products they advertise.

    Waaaah waaaaaah waaaah waaaaaa ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    Waaaah waaaaaah waaaah waaaaaaah.

    Advertising sucks.

    Information is free. News is not. If you try to make us pay for your "news" we'll just start blogging... oh! WAIT! We already do!!!

    BAAAAAAHHHHHHH!

    It may mean the end of doublec ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    It may mean the end of doubleclick style advertising but Google's adsense is experiencing record growth. What Mr. Benny is actually experiencing is a consumer reaction against pages that become unuseable when clogged with his brand of internet advertising.

    If those newspaper ad's moved around on the page, flashed annoyingly at us, and just generally made it a pain in the but to find content then those newspapers would have a pair of scissors taken to them pretty darn quick. In fact I can think of a few newspapers I don't purchase precisely because their ad placement strategy interferes with reading the content. If he want's to keep his business then he needs to stop finding creative ways to annoy the heck out of people and work on ways to actually make them want to buy the products he advertises.

    I am sure this moron will star ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    I am sure this moron will start suing people for blocking his crappy ads. Destroy our business model and we destroy you.

    Yo moron - I don't want your ads - or anyone elses.

    Nice comment about the missing ads in newspapers - I honestly can't remeber the last time I bought a newspaper for the ads.

    Do you sell magazines explicity full of advertising, but use newspaper articles to sell the product. You suck, zdnet sucks for posting crap as well. the hole online ad sucks. I can only imagine what TV would be like with pop ups - what do think - is the next wave?

    "One that they would prob ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    "One that they would probably end up having to withdraw from the market"

    This guy is seriously clueless. What right does he think he has to tell people that they have to accept any content that his company tries to force down their (paid for) internet connection? What right does he have to dictate what type of software can and cannot exist in the market?

    Answer: None.

    Browser makers, wether proprietary or open-source, are introduce whatever settings and plugins they wan't to make their user's browsing better. They don't have to get approval from the high-priests of dodgy marketing practices and bull**** at doubleclick.

    1) Advertisments on newspapers ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    1) Advertisments on newspapers do not save itself on your desktop and beacons itself as some ad-statistics.
    2) Advertisements on the newspapers do not take 300 times more duration that you need to open & read a page.
    3) Advertisements on paper do not move/flash/overlay on content and essentially behave like a brat trying to get my attention.
    4) Advertisements on paper actually have more quality than those you see online. Hows for that?

    Advertising guru-wannabes... learn something from your predecessors. Bright neonlight advertising is no longer your formula.

    Adblock can still block out your content while querying your ad servers.... so you'll get your precious 'statistics' while we are satisfied with the missing blocks.

    Mr smith, deal with it, stop being a cry baby. Either you find some way to entice readers/users on your ads w/o annoying them... someone else will. and I can bet that your doubleclick will stay a vague history.

    A comment as stupid as that co ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    A comment as stupid as that could only have come from an Advertising Executive. Double-Click are the biggest purveyors of SPAM in the world today and they don't have to send a single email to do it.

    1. Not much money is made from ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    1. Not much money is made from advertising revenue in the first place.

    2. Remember preferred listings search engines, the ones which change your search results so that sponsor companies have their links listed at the top of you hits? What's happened? Google. Lesson evolve or die.

    3. Google has a very good advertising revenue business model, learn from it.

    4. The sooner doubleclick dies, the better.

    You gotta be kidding me? Mr Sm ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    You gotta be kidding me?

    Mr Smith must have his head where the sun don't shine.

    There's been a number of similar comments recently and they all display a fundamental lack of understanding of the key principle of the internet: "The user is in control"

    Marketers who understand this will reap benefits. Fools like Mr Smith will lose.

    As for the death of free content, I don't think so. As a consultant to several very successful online businesses, we are generating as much free content as we can, as we realise the value this has to our customers and therefore us.

    Mr Smith seems to have no idea of how business works.

    Absolute rubbish - there are c ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    Absolute rubbish - there are countless websites that offer valuable content without ads etc. If Double Click can't produce something people want to view without ads they should examine what they're doing and why they're doing it.

    And if people dont want to see ads - why should they be forced to? Just so Bennie Smith et al can be parasites on the bandwagon of corporate avarice?

    I don't mind the adds, but the ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    I don't mind the adds, but the practices they play on the users : key-logging, spyware, 5 popups per page.

    and the list goes on and on. There are ways they could implement to make it work without making my days longer.

    This guy is obviously a ****in ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    This guy is obviously a ****ing retard. Has no clue about how advertisement works and what makes it functional. GTFO ****, go work as a garbage man or something.

    Golly,I personally can't wait ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    Golly,I personally can't wait for default ad blocking.Bunch of vermin suckering naive people into buying junk they can't afford,nor likely to use.May be stretching it just a tad but these places like DoulbleClick are as bad or worse than a virus on my computer.I've been waiting for this product to come available for IE and Msn Explorer and will have it on both.Thx guys

    There is a life after unsolici ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    There is a life after unsolicited banners. There would still be web pages, free hosters, and a lot of content on internet.

    In a system where people can abuse, they do. Ads issuers abused and the natural reaction is to block them. The people talked; they don't want ads, whatever Mr Smith says.

    If their business collapses, it would die the same way it lived. They are invading privacy when tracking habits, polluting web pages, tricking adblockers (with CSS instead of JS for example), and ****ing off people who have to click a thousand pop-ups or clean spywares from their computer.
    Can't the spam laws apply to banners too ?

    What next, banning pr0n blocki ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    What next, banning pr0n blocking software?

    I don't see Google ****ing and ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    I don't see Google ****ing and moaning just because some open source developer decided to make everyone's life better. I wonder why that is, DoubleClick?

    Perhaps DoubleClick could start earning a revenue doing things in a more sociable fashion, instead of jamming gigantic, high-bandwidth ads and popups everywhere they can find on the Internet.

    Gee, I don't mind ads, but if ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    Gee, I don't mind ads, but if a newspaper had the same technology, I wouldn't buy one either. Face it, Advertising does help defray costs. However, when those costs are passed on to consumers as hours of non-productivity due to malware and spyware installed by "advertisers", then I must take exception. If a newspaper started to attack me with ads that would not let me get anything done because it kept pestering me, then I would have a right to complain; same with so-called adware. If it does not invade my pc, fine; but let it come in uninvited, then we have what is called Criminal Trespass, a willing violation of my property. No, there is no "tacit approval" just because I visit a website, unless you have a banner message stating "Before proceeding, the website must warn you that by clicking and entering this site, you agree to let anything and everything into your system yada yada yada". you can whine about your freedom to advertise all you want, but util the SCOTUS decides in your favor like eminent domain (what a joke), you have no ground to stand on.

    count your victims doubleclick ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    count your victims doubleclick, and pray to satan that the relatively small number of people downloading adblock remains the same, because word sure spreads fast, and i will do my part to recommed this extention to all my friends.

    ff is downloaded 66+ million times, but adblock only 80+ thousand times, it it were upto me, adblock downloads would be in the millions as well.

    doubleclick, you and your kind should die as soon as possible.

    doubleclick, i wish you a spee ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    doubleclick, i wish you a speedy and painfull death.

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    Must. Have. Ads... If I don't ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    Must. Have. Ads...

    If I don't like what's on a site, I don't go to that site. Adverts to me are transparent. I couldn't care less what people are selling 99.9% of the time - just like the newspapers and magazines. I don't have someone with a paintbrush go over the newpaper to eradicate 'potentially advertorial material' in case I might see something I'm not interested in. God knows, that what's on the buses, billboards, buildings and everywhere else anyway. Do I drive around with my eyes shut now?

    What kind of idiot wants to have his web site viewing pre-censored by some misguided idealists?

    What an ad and what's not? What makes the no-ad ninnies think that it can't be gotten around?

    The fact is, advertising has saved me thousands of dollars in purchases and put me on to some great stuff. Unlike some people, it seems I'm perfectly capable of either dismissing or engaging advertising based on my own ability to discern between uninteresting crap and solid gold.

    For the people who think there's some kind of innovative market in auto-censorship, move to China or the UAE and enjoy yourself.

    Mr Smith? Anonymous -- 10/01/09 (in reply to #120118631)

    Congratulations. This is the first pro-advertising comment I've seen.

    They brought it on themselves ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    They brought it on themselves with annoying ads.

    People used to be quite happy browsing the web with unobtrusive ads on sites. Just as they don't mind having ads on papers.
    But then they started getting pushy with their ads.. fake warning windows, trick buttons and forms, popup windows, endless popups etc...

    I wouldn't expect a paper to charge $5 and be ad free... but equally if every time i turned the page things flew out at me and got in the way of actually READING the paper then i'd get pretty annoyed. And that is why the market for ad blockers has sprung up. Doubleclick only have themselves to blame... if they had turned down the annoying ads and kept them civilised then the need for popup blockers would never have arisen.

    Me, I allow ads that don't annoy me (google text ads etc..) but as soon as i get an annoying ad then all ads from that server get blocked. Serves them right too.

    25 cent daily papers?? Try $1. ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    25 cent daily papers?? Try $1.50. That's what they cost us in Australia. Are we getting ripped off or do you have a whole lot more ads in your papers to cover the cheaper cost.

    hey steve z, so if in your eye ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    hey steve z, so if in your eyes there isint any difference between billboard ads on the roads, and the obsessive and intrusive ads that we regularly witness online, then you must be stone blind, and a little off in the head too.

    on the roads, we dont have dazzling billboards popping up before us, obstructing our vision of the front car.
    we dont have people jumping in the middle of the road plastering flyers on our windshields, because if they did , they would be put in jail or the looney bin.

    but i can understand that your vision is a little sqewed steve z, you being an advertising troll and all.

    face it "bennie Smith&quo ...Anonymous -- 24/06/05

    face it "bennie Smith",you are a ****ing loser, so just die.

    Zadarnowski, u retard, why sto ...Anonymous -- 25/06/05

    Zadarnowski, u retard, why stop there? if you think ads are so ****ing great and they dont bother you, then why not let them install toolbars, hijack your homepage, and install diallers? thats what these 'advertisers' like doubleclick and coolwebsearch do.

    these so called "advertisers" dont just stop at flashing popups, oh no! they go all the way, the full distance, without mercy, to ensure that our pc is invaded by their wares, if you let them.

    they would only be too happy to take control of your pc to allow you to see their ads better.
    ever had your homepage hijacked? did that feel great? wanna do it again? dosent bother you?? what bull****.

    im sure you have your arsenal of spyware apps to target the onslaught of adware/malware{its the same thing in varied degrees}
    next thing you know, theyse bloody companies like doubleclick will sue anti-spyware applications for efficiently blocking their sewage.
    oh wait, they have already done that!

    shame on you zardanowski and bennie smith, you frikkin ***wipes.

    I LOVE my Adblock and Firefox. ...Anonymous -- 25/06/05

    I LOVE my Adblock and Firefox. If TV or newspapers had a comparable feature, I would buy it in a minute! If all that CRAP out there disappeared because it wasn't being artificially propped up by advertising, EVEN BETTER!! If there was no TV, I'd go fishing. F**K Madison Ave.

    I need a new hardrive soon just to store my ever growing database of blocked adservers. Doubleclick was the first one that got blocked, with a wildcard after the domain!

    MY Computer, MY Browser, MY Ch ...Anonymous -- 25/06/05

    MY Computer, MY Browser, MY Choice!!!!!

    Sunday papers already cost 5.0 ...Anonymous -- 25/06/05

    Sunday papers already cost 5.00 dollars... whats his point ?

    the problem is not the ads... its the ads eating my bandwidth and eating my time without premission or compensation.

    i pay for my internet use, and the bandwidth i use.

    Long before I used Firefox, I ...Anonymous -- 25/06/05

    Long before I used Firefox, I already block doubleclick.net and its domains to my host file in Windows folder. So keep crying, Mr Benny Smith.

    p.s. Sorry I changed your name to Benny cause I hate ie.

    its MY bandwidth, so **** you ...Anonymous -- 25/06/05

    its MY bandwidth, so **** you doubleclick.

    Free content??? I am paying m ...Anonymous -- 25/06/05

    Free content??? I am paying my ISP for access, therefore I am paying for everything that goes through my Internet connection, including the freaking ads I did not ask to get. They are stealing my bandwidth.

    ads are fine, POP UPS are what ...Anonymous -- 25/06/05

    ads are fine, POP UPS are what **** us off you friggin goober.

    If you like Adblock, you'll LO ...Anonymous -- 25/06/05

    If you like Adblock, you'll LOVE BugMeNot!

    What a bunch of bull****. Jus ...Anonymous -- 25/06/05

    What a bunch of bull****. Just think how much faster the internet would operate without flashing, epileptic, nauseating, ticker-taped bandwidth eating advertising. It would be 1994 again with clean fast surfing. Think how much work or fun could be had. If advertising is a necessity, then make the advertising unobtrusive where a surfer sees and reads a decent ad instead of throwing up, then never to return to such a nauseating web page again.

    give me a break Anonymous -- 02/11/05 (in reply to #120118649)

    if your connection is so freaking slow that you cant handle dynamic content, then that really is your fault and not a designers.

    Bennie Smith, the online adver ...Anonymous -- 25/06/05

    Bennie Smith, the online advertising network's privacy chief

    That should be "privacy thief"

    Bennie Smith couldn't be more ...Anonymous -- 25/06/05

    Bennie Smith couldn't be more wrong, and he is paid to say what he says, which makes it even worse, this is circular reasoning at it's finest, Bravo Bennie!

    Why?

    The internet surely didn't start with advertising, however there's the very real possibility that online advertising could kill the 'net as we know it.

    Think malware, spyware, spam mail, all byproducts of marketing, which adversely affects any PC machines, I spend hours a day at my work writing filters against the very thing ol' Benny there is being such an alarmist about.

    There's nothing wrong with advertising a service, however there are too many companies out there like DoubleClick that saturate their target groups (Internet Users) with so much guff in so many ways, that it loses it's point and becomes what I personally call "GriefWare".

    Screw Online mass (saturation based) marketing, and screw the ones behind it, it's not only hogging valuable bandwith, it's screwing up thousands of PC's daily.

    ZDNET: as a response to this story, why not look for factual Data about how much bandwith is being taken up by companies such as Bennie's quarterly, or how many machines a year get hit with spyware and the like. Let's see a comprehensive interest story for the USERS, the ones that give you hits, not this factually innacurate tripe/propaganda from Doublelick.

    *I fully encourage anyone reading this to find and download an adblocker immediately! =)

    And Bennie....I want the 5 minutes of my life back that I wasted on this garbage, Thanks in advance mate.

    I have enough faith in the REA ...Anonymous -- 25/06/05

    I have enough faith in the REAL netizens to continue providing free content, as I do on my web sites, ad free.

    Ad blockers are designed to bl ...Anonymous -- 25/06/05

    Ad blockers are designed to block annoying images and flash banners, generally google ads go unblocked. Not only is google's style of advertising less intrusive, it is more effective (I find myself clicking more google ads than annoying flash ads).

    Text adds are rarely blocked. ...Anonymous -- 25/06/05

    Text adds are rarely blocked. What is stopping the removal of annoying and intrusive flash / animated gif banners and adds and replacing them with simple, easy to read, non-intrusive, text advertisements? Very little.

    You insult us all.

    I've been blocking DoubleClick ...Anonymous -- 25/06/05

    I've been blocking DoubleClick ads for six years now.

    A well-kept Hosts file, and The Proxomitron have helped keep the intrusive DoubleClick off my computer. Any other companies that are annoying or get too instrusive get blocked too.

    i wounder if they ever though ...Anonymous -- 25/06/05

    i wounder if they ever though of making ads that didnt kill my eyes not to mention waste my valuable desk space...google.. anyone...there is smart advertising

    Personally, As an Network Admi ...Anonymous -- 25/06/05

    Personally,

    As an Network Admin, and a long time user of the internet, I knew that advertising would come to "our" part of town. But, I have yet to see a newspapers ad come flying out at me, hijack the newspaper behind it, change the paper into The National Enquirer, and force me to read it... Unless I have a book of matches, burn it, then buy another paper and avoid that page.

    I don't care if there are ads ...Anonymous -- 25/06/05

    I don't care if there are ads on webpages, its when they interfere with what I wish to do when it is a problem. New window pop ups and same window pop ups are an abomination.

    I have been using adblock, and ...Anonymous -- 25/06/05

    I have been using adblock, and I say this- I don't use it to block every ad. It's not worth the effort. But flash ads, especially ones that make noise, are simply anooying.

    In short, stop making annoying ads, and I'll stop blocking them.

    I'm sorry, but where does the ...Anonymous -- 26/06/05

    I'm sorry, but where does the compnay most (in)famous for INTRUSIVE ads ie: pop-ups, have the unmittigated gaul to tell the world that blocking their intrusions is wrong?

    I can ignore ads in the paper. I can ignore the ads in a web page, but pop-ups are much like having someone FORCE an ad in your face while you are reading at the library.

    In the real world I'd be happily carted off in handcuffs after smacking that fool in the gob.

    I could care less if DoubleCli ...Anonymous -- 26/06/05

    I could care less if DoubleClick is upset about not being able to put their trash on my personal computer.

    I deeply resent having to spend good money buying expensive software that would prevent them from invading my personal space with their intrusive pop ups, spyware, etc in the first place.

    I will NEVER buy ANYTHING from a company that does business this way. How dare they act offended. Its MY computer. I don't pay my ISP to read their stupid ads all day.

    Tell these cyber pirates to get a real job and stop bothering people.

    I beleive that the ad blocking ...Anonymous -- 26/06/05

    I beleive that the ad blocking was implemented to dispose of the highly annoying Pop-Ups, the adds that take up large amounts of you systems resources, the adds that make noise, and the adds that are buily into a page put when the page opens, take up the entire page until closed within the window. that is what they are made for, so what newspaper do you know of that allows ads to pop out and narrowly miss your face, or put multiple, entire pages, of adds in front of their front page news? think about it and realize that the occasional add is not so bad, but when they are slowly getting more and more intrusive, then someone has to take action and do something to stop it. I am sure that if the online ad industry were to back off, and just leave it at the adds on the side of the page, then there probably wouldnt be any problems, but since thats not the case, people are going to go to the extremes of blocking all ads.

    Bull S___ Help me out here, I ...Anonymous -- 26/06/05

    Bull S___ Help me out here, I can't recall the word I want to use. Anybody?

    Anybody?

    I think someone, say a "boogieman" is trying to scare someone

    Anybody?

    This, coming from a known spyw ...Anonymous -- 26/06/05

    This, coming from a known spyware manufacturer. It doesn't block banner ads, it blocks pop ups. Please.

    pop up blockers and ad blocker ...Anonymous -- 26/06/05

    pop up blockers and ad blockers are different things. if a company wants to spend money on online advertising than they have the option of buying a banner space on the site as well. they don't need to open a new window to interupt the user's browsing. the argument that was made about the newspaper is completely absurd. blocking pop ups is not making anyone i know feel like they are missing out on anything of value from their browsing. pop ups are more like an advertisment poping up right in front of the article you are trying to read interupting you from the task you are trying to accomplish. they windows are losing my business. any window that pops up to interupt me, i remember that name and refuse to give them my business period. if they are inconveniencing me in order to get free advertising i already dislike the way the company does business. end of story.

    Does he really believe we don' ...Anonymous -- 27/06/05

    Does he really believe we don't understand the implications of blocking ads? I already *allow* ads on specific sites if the content outweighs the annoyance of the ads, if I want the site to stay in business.

    I've not yet found any doubleclick, fastclick or related offensive ad suppliers on sites worth unblocking. The free content I risk losing isn't going to be missed if doubleclick collapse.

    Perhaps if online ads were wel ...Anonymous -- 28/06/05

    Perhaps if online ads were well behaved netizens there would not be such a backlash agains them. No one is bothered by newspaper adds becuase they do not take control of your newspaper and trick you into letting vendors into your house, or even correlate what ads you look at with what articles you read.

    An absolute crock. Newspaper ...Anonymous -- 28/06/05

    An absolute crock. Newspaper ads do not pop up into your face and block the view of the articles. Plenty of sites still have advertisements that no one blocks because the advertisements in particular are simply not annoying, usually being in banner form, and they do in fact make advertising revenue. That is the big secret, ad executives: If your advertising isn't obnoxious, people are less likely to block it.

    Sorry, but I've never opened t ...Anonymous -- 28/06/05

    Sorry, but I've never opened the paper and longed for the full-color ads that I end up tossing out. How many times have you picked up a Sunday paper in order to dump out the plethora of ads inside. I wouldn't miss junk-mail either in my mailbox each day. Most advertising of that sort is essentially spam which fails to market towards its target market. Run ads for Craftsman tools in a woodworking magazine, not the paper everyday.

    news paper advertisments dont ...Anonymous -- 28/06/05

    news paper advertisments dont get in the way of **** i do... get overyourself. apples and oranges man, thast what your trying to compare

    Bennie Smith isn't being sligh ...Anonymous -- 29/06/05

    Bennie Smith isn't being slightly realistic. First of all - newspaper ads would be far more annoying if the popped over the article you're reading or flashed and bounced all over the page. I for one would not feel slighted if my newspaper came with no ads. Instead of merely whining about new technology it would be more useful to innovate ad delivery methods and create new ways to bring value to sponsors online. Lastly, I get the feeling it's a vague threat and that I'm being warned to stop using adblock. Come on Mr Smith - Doubleclick can try harder than that . . .

    I wouldnt have a paper with ho ...Anonymous -- 01/07/05

    I wouldnt have a paper with holes in it, I'd just have a much smaller paper, with wall to wall content.

    Newspaper ads do not pop-up ou ...Anonymous -- 02/07/05

    Newspaper ads do not pop-up out of nowhere, or flash, or vibrate, or slide across the text I am trying to read. Banner ads that just sit there looking pretty are not annoying to most users. I don't even block those. Sometimes I will actually click on them. The ads that consumers want to get rid of are the ones that are infuriating. There will soon be a huge backlash to the companies that use them. They can't play dumb any more. All they have to do is make their advertisers sign a contract prohibiting cookies, tracking devices, "drive-by" software downloads, or malware that changes browser or registry settings.

    Newspaper ads do not pop-up ou ...Anonymous -- 02/07/05

    Newspaper ads do not pop-up out of nowhere, or flash, or vibrate, or slide across the text I am trying to read. Banner ads that just sit there looking pretty are not annoying to most users. I don't even block those. Sometimes I will actually click on them. The ads that consumers want to get rid of are the ones that are infuriating. There will soon be a huge backlash to the companies that use them. They can't play dumb any more. All they have to do is make their advertisers sign a contract prohibiting cookies, tracking devices, "drive-by" software downloads, or malware that changes browser or registry settings.

    Comparing Pop-ups to a newspap ...Anonymous -- 02/07/05

    Comparing Pop-ups to a newspaper ad is just.... plain idiocy.

    Why? Pop-up BLOCK the site i'm trying to read (they get IN FRONT OF THE SITE), newspaper ads don't.

    How would you feel, mr smith, if you're reading your monthly marketing magazine, and the article just stops in the middle to display my REALLY LARGE VIAGRA advertisement??? not nice eh?

    so i should just accept the 25 ...Anonymous -- 06/07/05

    so i should just accept the 25 thousan pop ups to make my member bigger then? no way buddy internet is interactive more then a newspapper, stop comparing chalk to pens, they are 2 diffrent things get over yourself

    Despite the controversy, I agr ...Anonymous -- 09/07/05

    Despite the controversy, I agree.

    DoubleClick does not just offe ...Anonymous -- 18/07/05

    DoubleClick does not just offer ads via a pop-up window. The complaint against DoubleClick is and has always been they are information compilers, packagers, and distributors. They are, in short, the reason pop-ups are considered so undesireable. It is not just the ad. It is the information DoubleClick is gathering from your hard drive to sell to other self-serving vultures without your consent or knowledge. DoubleClick is one of those companies the internet would be much better off WITHOUT.

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    There is advertising, and then there is just plain annoying! Anonymous -- 08/11/05

    I actually think this guy is on to something as there is simply no denying that advertising has paid for a great deal of the content that is on the Internet today that is freely available to us as users. If advertising versus content is kept in balance so as not to alienate the user, then this 3-way relationship of webmaster, advertiser and user should be able to continue as it has for the past decade.

    However, for the most part it is the advertisers who have persisted in ramming advertising down the throat of their users that has brought this balance unstuck. Nobody likes a dozen pop-ups/unders coming up when they view a screen, and nobody wants to be forced to look at a full paged ad for 5 seconds before being redirected to the content they actually came to see. It is these short sighted advertisers who plaster their sites in advertising that have in turn sparked short sighted users who now want to block ALL advertising, not just the intrusive stuff.

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    The End is Nigh Anonymous -- 15/12/06

    Many out there believe that the payment for an internet connection entitles them to access to the internet. "Why should I pay to access the internet, and pay again to view a website?" a large number would argue. Especially when the connection may have a download limit or quota, which can be consumed by advertisments. In effect we as Internet Connection consumers are paying to see the net, and paying to view the adverts.
    Ideally we all see the internet as an information source, much like our libraries, and it wasn't really a matter of "paying for websites" until the big corporates moved in and wanted a piece of the pie.

    In the end, no ads will mean less web content, yes, less COMMERCIAL and BUSINESS content. Sites like Wikipedia are the sites of the future.
    RIP eCommerce.

    Browser makers warned against ad-blocking Anonymous -- 31/05/07

    Mr Smith, you must be kidding. Lift your game. How dare you assume that we - the public - like to read advertisements. Thank the Gods for programs like Adblock, we can block the rubbish that we - the public - are not interested in.

    Free Speech. You have to be kidding. Free speech means that you can say what you like. We don't have to agree or even approve. You have said your bit, Mr Smith, now go and get a real job.

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    Flashblock is another must have ad-on to Firefox. It stops any flash animation starting automatically, giving you a simple arrow to press if you want to see it. A godsend.

    AdBlock Anonymous -- 19/06/09 (in reply to #320081692)

    Doesn't AdBlock also let you block Flash content? I have adblock installed for Firefox (as everyone should) and there is a small block tab above everything Flash related. When I click the block tab the Flash program goes away. Very Handy.

    Bring it on! Anonymous -- 16/08/07

    I WISH more content sites on the internet were subscription based and not free. That would improve the quality of the content offered, because content providers would really need to fight for customers, rather than falling back on the lowest common denominator.

    If ad blocking technology speeds up the rise of paid content, so much the better. Far from being short-sighted, ad blockers are making the internet more competitive.

    I Totally Agree Anonymous -- 19/06/09 (in reply to #320084479)

    I think we'll see a rise in Software-as-a-Service (SaaS) websites from no on. Yes there is a lot of content on the net, but is mostly junk, anyway.

    Blocking Internet Ads Anonymous -- 17/08/07

    Nobody should get upset about blocking ads on the internet. I do it for two reasons: First of all, many web ads have annoying animations / flashing crap that is distracting when trying to read the actual content of a page. Secondly, I NEVER buy anything from the internet, and I'll NEVER be tempted to. I'm afraid that purchases via E-commerce open people up to a myriad of problems like security trouble / theft and SPAM.

    The same people that like getting junk mail will want to see all the tacky internet ads and will not block them, but others like myself, who toss junk mail into the dustbin without even scanning it, block them. Do the creators of junk mail get upset when I toss their pamphlets and fliers out without so much as a glance? No, they know it happens. Therefore, people and businesses that use the internet to advertise shouldn't fret and fume when we block their ads. It's just like tossing out those unwanted solicitations that land in our mailboxes.

    I'm just here looking for more ads to block Anonymous -- 13/09/07

    I installed Firefox's adblock. I was trying to find any ads it doesn't block, to add them to the list.

    It's amazing how much better the web is without advertisements. Next, I guess I'll have to get a tivo, so I don't have to watch ads on tv either! Where's the radio tivo?

    Norton Internet Security 2008 Anonymous -- 12/10/07

    The NIS 2008 has dispensed with the ad blocker system, I man the ads at the bottom and top of this page

    With the ads coming at this compuetr at a million miles an hour it takes the page 5 minutes to laod, the graphic riddle at the top of this very page will stop me from coming back

    I actually poo pood the idea of changing to Firefox, but if it can get rid of those ads then I'll go there, web based email addies are the same, takes 5 mnutes to open. People will ahve to wind back from them too, the might be free and they might cost a bit to run but without customers you got nuthin'

    It's only a matter of time Anonymous -- 16/10/07

    before someone develops an ad blocker that displays the desired page minus the ads AND clicks through on all the ads in the background.

    No ads shwell -- 18/10/07

    If a website has animated ads then I have the right using my ad blocking software in my anti-virus. Users are becoming more tech savvy and more able to do this.

    liar... Anonymous -- 11/01/08

    Which newspaper sells for 25 cents???

    25c newspaper? Anonymous -- 12/02/08

    A 25c newspaper? Where? Most of them right now are either free and forced on us whether we want them or not, or above $1.

    The obvious solution Anonymous -- 06/04/08

    If webmasters do not want their content being viewed for free, require people to sign up and pay for access. If the value of the content isn't unreasonably priced, people will purchase it. OTOH, if the website is deemed worthless, it won't be accessed by anyone regardless of any ad blocking.

    Free hint to advertisers: Small, unobtrusive text ads like you see on Google. I do look at those but if it dances, beeps, flashes, shakes, or otherwise distracts me from reading a news article, I'm going to block it and certainly won't purchase a product or service from the companies who use them.

    Are there ads on the internet?? Adhater -- 08/05/08

    I didn't realise there were ads on the Internet ;) - Only on other people's computers. For 4 years now I have used admuncher - worthe every cent! I can add my own filters, plus there are the built in ones. I am amazed when I use someone elses computer to go to some of the sites I usually visit, and it is full of ads!!

    Browser makers warned against ad-blocking Anonymous -- 18/10/08

    It is the lack of professionality of those placing adds that really annnoys the web surfers.
    Imagine when you wanted to read a very important email and then the ad comes poping in covering your email--- too bad that although they made them somewhat transparent, some times they don't have any option to close, with the fact that they are covering a part of that very important message.
    Mr. Smith is a businessman, no wonder he fears losing money from an investment bt isnt it terrorism whem you try to make a threat as such? I wish the CIA would try getting in the picture. :-)

    ads make the net user -- 24/10/08

    You forget that half the websites online exist because of affiliate marketing. You say you should not have to wait or use the bandwidth to get an ad when all you want is free info.

    Why should webmasters give you free info? There is nothing in it for them, it is a business. Do you expect free food when you go into a resteraunt? If affiliate marketing and ads were to be killed, then all those websites you like would go out of business. Say bye to all your favorite websites.

    Agreed Anonymous -- 18/04/09 (in reply to #320114836)

    When did people think they're entitled to free stuff on the internet? Face it, the "free" internet is going away. We will all pay for things one way or another.

    A Matter Of Choice Anonymous -- 16/11/08

    The ability to block ads should be left up to the individual internet user. Some people are not bothered by them, some are - in which case if one is bothered by ads, then they should have the right to disable and not be bothered by them...
    Or another option ... just completely ignore the ads altogether like I do...

    Like the subject line says (it's) a matter of choice...

    Personally I would be willing to pay more for an ISP with no ads whatsoever if there was one...

    I see a backlash coming from website businesses. Roger Qiu -- 22/05/09

    Adblockers were created as a backlash to businesses who abused their advertisements. But remember this can go both ways, but they require everyone to participate.

    First way is just by programming. Make code analyze the delivery of advertisements, if they have not been delivered, the entire site won't show.

    Second way is more horrendous. This adds a reason for big businesses to eliminate net neutrality. Hurting both the user, and smaller web businesses.

    Some people say, only people who don't respond to ads will block them so, its a win - win situation for publishers as they both don't need to serve up the bandwidth. This is false assumption, if the ease of eliminating advertisements were just one click. Almost everybody will do it, it frees up their download usage and speed. And the website they view, is simply more beautiful.

    Fact is, this can get out of hand. I personally don't and won't use adblockers. If there's a site that abuses adverts, I just don't go to that site. I don't bother to block all adverts, and consequently even block the honest website trying to make a buck.

    Banning Ads is simply a reality Anonymous -- 19/06/09

    Nobody can stop the blocking of ads on the internet. It is happening, and the internet developers WILL have to deal with it. No amount of crying from the advertisers is going to stop the discontinuation of ads on the net. If a website business model is based on ads, they'll will have to redo their business model. Why do you think BitTorrent is so popular right now? People can download and watch their favorite tv show WITHOUT COMMERCIALS.

    While it is true what some people are saying here about losing some of our favorite websites like YouTube, LinkedIn, PlentyOfFish, etc., but so what. we lived quite happily for a long time without YouTube, and if YouTube does go away something else will take its place, and the kids will be all over that.

    what a joke Anonymous -- 07/07/09

    Yea, and next he's going to tell me that TiVo is killing cable producers... Or changing channels is killing broadcasters.

    Or the fact that when (or better yet -- IF) i goto the movies, i'm forced to sit and eat popcorn to watch 20 to 30 minutes of ads and trailer's i've already seen TV.

    That "25c" newspaper should be free... who pays 25 cents for paper when the bozo's printing the crap rake in hundreds of thousands in ad revenue? Pure garbage.

    -- What a joke. no sympathy at all.

    anti-ad association Anonymous -- 31/08/09

    Is there a anti-ad association. I want to support it in that case, DAMN I HATE ADS!! I want adblocker for my TV.

    ADS Anonymous -- 03/11/09

    Mr. Smith is only trying to cinch tighter the saddle on the conduit.
    I wonder how Procter and Gamble survived before the Internet?

    You wanna serve ads? Anonymous -- 04/11/09

    Then serve non-irritating ads that don't over-ride browser preferences, or attempt to do an end-run around my pop-up blocker.

    You want to serve up ads relevant to the content I'm reading, and don't make my eyes bleed (ie those flashing "Shot this to win a PS3!"); feel free to do so.

    But don't resize my browser, circumvent my new-window preferences, and don't serve me Flash (Gobbles my bandwidth).

    And for god's sake, serve ads that are relevant. If I'm reading content about the war in Afghanistan, don't give me an ad "Shoot Saddam to win a free iPod!" or one for ****-enlargement.

    If I'm reading about new server technology, I'll be very likely to click an ad for a new storage subsystem; or if I'm reading about SEO, ok I'll appreciate an ad about SEO services.

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