Punters still behind PCs for Kids

More than a month after Microsoft took on a small Australian charity, the issue remains in the spotlight, with public support firmly behind PCs for Kids, according to a recent survey.

A ZDNet poll has shown that of nearly 1500 responses, 74 percent of respondents believe that Microsoft should have shown -some compassion" in dealing with PCs for Kids. The remaining 26 percent are of the opinion that -charity or not, it did the wrong thing".

The sheer number of readers that participated in the survey is testament to the overwhelming attention that this battle has received and continues to enjoy.

When Colin and Therresa Bayes set up PCs for Kids in 1999 as a means of distributing refurbished PCs to underprivileged children, they had little idea they would soon be pushed into the global spotlight.

But pushed they were. In a very uncharacteristic move, Microsoft turned the attention of its legal team to the charity, threatening court action against it on the grounds that PCs for Kids had hard-loaded Microsoft's operating system without checking the licensing validity.

Microsoft was working off a complaint to its anti-piracy hotline that the charity was using unlicensed versions of the operating system.

The subsequent debate captured the attention of the global IT community. Since the battle began in July, public criticism has flown hard and fast against Microsoft for -bullying" the charity, while PCs for Kids has been inundated by statements of support from individuals and organisations.

According to a statement by PCs for Kids, the Bayes' have been overwhelmed by the amount of feedback and congratulatory remarks they have received throughout the last month. Therresa Bayes believes that -[Microsoft] missed their Kodak moment and decided to turn their back on the kids, [now] they have to put up with the public outcry."

Microsoft failed to respond to requests for comment by press time.

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Talkback 13 comments

    Ugly incident. Microsoft sho ...Anonymous -- 17/08/01

    Ugly incident.

    Microsoft should not have tried to, what effectively meant, a redirection of donations to Bill's pocket!

    People who donated, did donate for the benefit of the kids, not for the benefit of the worlds richest individual.

    After all, presumably he had already been paid for the licenses when the machines were first bought. Ergo Bill did not suffer any financial loss.
    Apart form that, they do have very strange licensing I must confess.

    Then they tried a smelly proposition which was designed to effectively bypass the charity, make the charity appear in the public eye as criminals.

    The aim of this move was to undermine the charities reputation, thus noone would support them in the future and the charity would simply cease operations and the kids would have been the onces who felt the consequenses.

    Microsoft are completely out of touch with the sentiments of the general population.
    They might have the law on their site, technically, however in my book a wrong is still a wrong.

    MS seems to think it is quite acceptable to send in the lawyers to do the heavy beatings.

    I for one will in future evaluate with great care if a job can be done without purchasing anything form Microsoft, even if it might mean an initial adaptation.

    Microsoft will always been the ...Anonymous -- 20/08/01

    Microsoft will always been the bad guy.

    No matter what Microsoft did (or could've done) would've been wrong.
    If the matter had gone unchallenged by Microsoft, it would've set a precident, and many other people could've claimed that they couldn't afford a PC so that would make it Ok to use the 'illegal' software.
    With Microsoft challenging the 'charity' over the 'illegal' use of its software, you get everyone who dislikes Microsoft (for whatever reason, either valid or not) complaining about how Microsoft have all this money and do nothing to support this particular 'charity'

    The simple thing is that the 'charity' didn't consult Microsoft before 'illegally' using the Operating System software.

    Baloney. If I donate my TV, I ...Jim Papadopoulos -- 20/08/01

    Baloney.

    If I donate my TV, I dont expect Sony to bully the Salvation Army for money! Its no wonder people are sceptical about anything Microsoft does. The fact that half the state govenments in america (its own country) are in court over the same sort of tactics is telling you something about what everyone thinks of microsoft.

    I an only assume the previous post (anonymous) is on the Microsoft payroll.

    This is another symptom of the ...John Yasmineh -- 22/08/01

    This is another symptom of the complete and utter vendor-biased madness that inetllectual property laws have become.

    Computer software should never have become classed under the copyright rules for art and literature, but under the patent rules for machines as that is what software is - a machine.

    On the one hand Microsoft wants to tie its O/S to individual machines, meaning that a user will not be able to buy a machine without an, or with a different, O/S and will need to buy new licenses with all new PC's.

    On the other hand MS has rigged it up so that a user requires a new license when they buy an old machine. Talk about double-dipping, they've got some nerve.

    It's just bollocks that a PC can be sold again and again but its O/S cannot. The law needs to change the world over. Good luck with that though, what with the US government having pushed through international agreements favouring copyright of software for 50 years, instead of patents for 10, because they are the world's biggest software exporter.

    Imagine having to pay a licence fee every time a Sony television was resold, as an earlier respondent has poiinted out? Madness.

    Well, it seems some folks here ...Anonymous -- 23/08/01

    Well, it seems some folks here dont know how to make an analogy! MS didnt build the PC, they made the OS. So, throw out your idea about paying Sony to recycle a TV! MS has every right to defend their intellectual copyrights! And I would say they are oligated to do so, because of the shareholders. Sure, MS has more money than God! Maybe MS ought to consider donating the licesnses or set up a refurbishment license like we have in the States, which would only cost a buck or so. Just because PC's for kids doesnt like what is legal, doesnt give them the right to circumvent the law. That brings into question what kind of example they are setting for the kids. There are ways to work it out, but I hardly think throwing a tantrum and crying foul in full view of the world is the appropriate way to do it. I'm sure there are people willing to donate the license with the computer! Or hey, even people with an old copy of the OS they aren't using can donate the software and license to the charity!

    A refurbishment license would ...Anonymous -- 23/08/01

    A refurbishment license would be a good idea - one wonders why it doesn't exist in Australia.

    But you can't really use legality in your arguments when the law is so obviously biased and takes such a narrow view of how it treats software copyrights. I mean heck, in some parts of the world killing babies is legal, that doesn't mean you can adopt that as sound policy.

    Copyright laws with regard to software are draconian, and if extended to cover hardware (which is no different from software except that it exists physically) WOULD mean that a manufacturer would have to be paid a licensing fee every time a television changed hands.

    Does anyone know what this OS ...Anonymous -- 23/08/01

    Does anyone know what this OS is Win 3.01
    Thats right they were installing Microsoft windows 3.01 if it were a game it would be considered abandonwear MS doesn't support it anymore but wants to claim fees for it. if they want to pull there copyright laws out then start supporting the OS again. I have noticed that not one of the posts here has yet to mention this fact. Or while quoting law Too busy to research the fact.
    The fact that MS doesn't support it anymore should be enough to allow them to use it.
    or should motzarts family charge backpayments for everytime a company or symphony plays it's tune..
    Ohh and that includes microsoft media....

    That's freaky. Not only does ...Anonymous -- 24/08/01

    That's freaky. Not only does MS not support Win31 anymore, they won't even let you buy licenses if yo wanted to... What are they doing charging for its install?

    Software licensing laws need t ...Anonymous -- 25/08/01

    Software licensing laws need to be reviewed

    Situations like this are just incredible.

    If the law does allow situations like this to occur then the law is surely wrong and should be amended.

    Why dont they install mandrake ...Tom Madison -- 25/08/01

    Why dont they install mandrake 8.0 its what M$ copyed there installer gui for XP off of

    Its fast free has edu programs Tons of stuff and no nazi lawyers

    takes 8 mins to set up a computer with mandrake 8.0 from iso's DL off the internet took longer to burn them to cd internet and such is set-up during install .. when you boot up your on the net and rdy to go

    Xp is weak compared to linux that and i bet if PC for kids ask mandrake they would help them out

    m0zone

    p.s Mandrake is free :) and works with most hardware a 200 mhz comp runs it fine with 32 megs of mem

    The law needs to be changed If ...Anonymous -- 26/08/01

    The law needs to be changed

    If for instance, I where to buy a second hand car, I would only expect to pay the person who sold me the car, but not the manufacturer as well just because the car had been resold.

    Laws should be fair.

    Easy Soulution, start installi ...Anonymous -- 26/08/01

    Easy Soulution, start installing Linux and let the unfortunate children learn on a O/S other than windows, chances is, it will help them more in the long run. Why not let microsoft push more future users to open source software.

    Linux is freely distributed, you can download it and install it on as many pc's you wish.

    Unjust law The PC for Kids cas ...Anonymous -- 27/08/01

    Unjust law

    The PC for Kids case is a good example of a law which should be changed.

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