Email plan "not spam"

The marketing company behind technology that allows ISPs to intercept emails and wrap them in advertisements has defended its initiative, following a backlash from Internet users.

ZDNet reported Friday that Reva Networks was promoting new email technology that enables ISPs to wrap mail with ads before sending it on to the recipient -- a concept that sparked a barrage of criticism from users already fed up with being bombarded with spam.

"The minute my ISP tries this I will no longer be their customer," one Internet user said. "There is so much advertising on the Net it's a joke. I am insulted to think that ISPs would make money out a service that is already making them money,"

"The day my ISP puts spam inside my email is the day I find a new ISP," another user said, with others saying the concept is nothing more than a "hideous money-grabbing attempt at invading our privacy".

Reva Networks CEO Robert Pickup, however, says that "Admail" isn't spam and is simply a way for service providers to generate additional revenue streams in a competitive environment that's forcing them to cut costs.

"It's really incorrect to associate it [Admail] with spam," Pickup said. "This is not unsolicited email."

The Coalition Against Unsolicited Bulk Email agrees: "It's not spam because it's not violating property rights," the coalition's Troy Rollo told ZDNet.

"The mailbox at this point is the joint property of the ISP and the user," he explained "Because the ISP retains property rights...they have the right to send whatever they like to us."

And whilst Rollo believes that the use of Admail may cause ISPs to lose customers, "it does have the potential to take off," he admitted.

It's a wrap
Admail will be sent with advertisements wrapped the around email -- down the right hand side and over the top of the message -- and as ISPs have demographic information on all their subscribers, those ads can be tailored to suit individual profiles.

"If the ad is relevant to the user... and if the user was getting some kind of return such as a discount on fe...then there's the potential for it [Admail] to take off," Rollo said.

Reva claims that the competitive nature of the ISP arena is already forcing many to reduce pricing plans -- the use of Admail simply provides them with a means to subsidise costs with advertising revenue.

Pickup said he found readers' angry responses to Admail "quite overwhelming" considering there'd been no negative feedback to a trial.

However, he concedes many may not have read the terms and conditions and realised Admail was to be included within another service, where emails were diverted from mobile phones to mail boxes.

Pickup says he envisages ISPs could offer users a discounted subscription plan in return for Admail or alternatively, could promote it as an "opt-out" service.

Admail may hit in-boxes within a month.

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Talkback 13 comments

    If it walks like a duck and qu ...Anonymous -- 25/06/01

    If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it is a duck. Email wrapped in spam is close enough to spam.

    Not spam? No, it's worse than ...Anonymous -- 26/06/01

    Not spam? No, it's worse than spam. Spam is stuffing ads in my mailbox. This is like opening the envelope from Mom and writing ads in the margins of her letter.

    I agree with Anonymous this is ...Anonymous -- 26/06/01

    I agree with Anonymous this is worse than spam this is interferring with the mail. This should be illegal.

    Characters cost. It's "vi ...Anonymous -- 26/06/01

    Characters cost. It's "violating property rights" just as much as fax spam is when it chews up fax paper. If someone puffs out the volume of my internet access, and then tries to charge me or causes me to be charged for that volume, words will be said.

    Memo to Mr Robert Pickup 1. Ch ...Anonymous -- 26/06/01

    Memo to Mr Robert Pickup

    1. Check the survey results relating to this story ... when I checked 92% against - 7% for ... seems to me your selection of trialists was atypical of the usual consumer

    2. If I don't request it - it is unsolicited. End of story - whether it's a separate e-mail or not

    3. "... the competitive nature of the ISP arena ..." is no excuse for taking away my freedom of choice - it should be an opt-IN system not an opt-OUT.

    ISP's take note - NO, NEVER, N ...Anonymous -- 26/06/01

    ISP's take note - NO, NEVER, NOT EVER! Do this and the backlash will be astronomical - Email is private and should be accepted as being the sacred right of all internet users to enjoy without being mindlessly bombarded by tripe. Extremely important and sensitive messages are sent via email, and the wrapping of these messages in advertisements can potientially dilute the significance of these, leading to critical errors in communications and decision-making. WHO AMONG YOU IS WILLING TO TAKE THAT RISK?

    It's a little disheartening to ...Anonymous -- 26/06/01

    It's a little disheartening to see so many deluded people out there. It seems the majority of the respondents to this article have missed the point entirely.

    Ask a user if they "want" advertising in their email, of course they will say NO. Ask someone if they "want" advertising on television, they will say NO. But ask them if they want to pay less for their Internet access. Ask them if they want to watch television without having to pay for it!

    Anyone who say "The Internet should be free" is merely showing their inability to grasp the most basic concepts of business. NOTHING is free. Someone has to pay for the infrastructure/development/support/technology etc, etc.

    Advertising is a well established industry, and it is not likely that it is going to disappear any time soon. The reality is that a product like this was going to happen at some stage.

    I wonder how many of those users who claim to not want advertising have NEVER clicked on a banner?

    Not many I'd wager.

    Think first. Most postings tak ...Francis O'Connor -- 26/06/01

    Think first. Most postings take a subjective line rather than giving the idea any objective consideration. Any business needs revenue streams - the dot-coms typically don't have enough - where are all the free ISP's now? Their web advertising funded model was not profitable enough - maybe this more direct email approach could breathe life back into them (just a little).

    To Jason and Co When I visit a ...Anonymous -- 26/06/01

    To Jason and Co
    When I visit a web site, I'm using the results of someone else's work and accept banner adds as a way of paying for this.
    When I send and receive emails, I'm using my PC, Telephone line I rent and an ISP that I pay to access the internet
    IE I pay for emails - they are not free.
    If the ISP cannot provide the quality of service to justify making a profit then it's goodbye to a bad business
    Stay out of our email with a bad unconstructive money grabbing idea that further pollutes our society

    Er, yes. Another novel idea fr ...Oliver White -- 27/06/01

    Er, yes. Another novel idea from the advertisers, long may they continue to have their ideas a long way away from me.

    Yahoo mail displays ads alongside their email service, so you only have a 1/4 page view of the email, everything else being adverts. I stopped using yahoo mail. (also because they give out messanger IDs to porn-bots)

    Another.com displays ads alongside their email service, a similar concept. I no longer use another.com

    Line up, ye email providers. Let you all provide these adverts, and one by one, you WILL be boycotted.

    Such a pity, the demise of these email companies.

    No spam mail please,Esther Esther Olivares -- 27/06/01

    No spam mail please,Esther

    I agree with several other Int ...David West -- 27/06/01

    I agree with several other Internet Users that I would immediately leave any ISP and recommend my clients do the same if they started this Ridiculous practice.

    My suggestion to Robert Pickup from Reva Networks is to do some market research before attempting to introduce an advertising concept of this nature.

    I hope he now realises the negative impact his idea will have on Reva's ISP client base. With the fact that most internet users would leave their current ISP.

    I currently have 3 ISP's as I ...Ed Crain -- 14/09/01

    I currently have 3 ISP's as I must be sure I have access to the net at any time.
    Any of these start adding to emails will be cancelled immediately as there are plenty more ISP,s out there.

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