BigPond newsgroup: 10 days of utter silence

Telstra's BigPond news service has suffered a technical glitch lasting 10 days, which the Australian telco chose to push to the back of its long list of things to fix, leaving its dial-up customers out of the loop.

Users of the newsgroup service, which is hosted on Telstra's BigPond site, were not able to view external news postings since August 4. The service was semi-operative, allowing BigPond users to read internal postings, however, the flow between Telstra customers and other ISPs had completely stalled.

Although the glitch occured earlier this month, the telco had not informed users of the problem on its service status page http://www.telstra.com/ServiceStatus/ until last night.

Telstra's Kerrina Lawrence said the telco had not posted a message on its status page sooner because it was treated as a low priority in light of all the problems the network has been experiencing of late.

"Only 10-15 customers enquired about the problem per day, compare that to an interruption to the service where we might get 140 calls within 30 minutes," Lawrence said.

BigPond customer Raymond Jones said technical support staff denied there was a problem for the first four days, which then turned to an admission that a problem existed to stony silence.

Jones said Telstra's excuse for not informing users of the issue, "doesn't wash, when a post on the news group service tells users to check the service status page for regular updates."

-Whether it's a low priority or not, it should be posted on the page so we know what's going on," Jones said.

The service has now been restored for dial-up customers.

Referring to the time it took for Telstra to get to the problem, Jones said, "why provide the service if they can't support it."

Jones also said its not the first time in the last three months the service has been affected.

-If a problem occurs on a Friday afternoon, Telstra won't look at it until Monday," he said.

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Talkback 22 comments

    I was one of the customers who ...Anonymous -- 14/08/01

    I was one of the customers who was effected by this loss of service and who complained every day or so because of it.

    It's completely ridiculous that the priority of this problem was only upgraded after zdnet contacted Bigpond...but thanks anyway zdnet.

    When customers start referring ...Anonymous -- 14/08/01

    When customers start referring to the support line staff as TeleTubbies you have problems.

    After six days the status page ...Terry Russell -- 14/08/01

    After six days the status page for BP Home read for a short time
    "Technicians are treating this
    issue as a priority and are working on the problem. "

    Failing to mention LOW priority.

    On the Friday the 10th BP claimed it was fixed, nothing changed from the customers POV.

    I am a Telstra BigPond Advance ...Anonymous -- 14/08/01

    I am a Telstra BigPond Advance User and will stay that way. Why? Because I am one of the unlucky few to not have Optus cabled to my house. Telstra being Australias largest Telco and having these "teething" problems when the technology is not new, but only new to this continent is utterly disgusting and makes me sick. Pick it up Telstra, the Govt cannot hold you forever.

    Once again Telstra has shown c ...Ray Holman -- 14/08/01

    Once again Telstra has shown contempt for its customers by treating them like mushrooms. Telstra's out sourced support is provided by TeleTech, who evidently also were not informed of any progress and any estimated time of restoration. The whole service status page has always been a joke and it is obvious by the comments of the Telstra representitive, that they regard it as so as well.
    Telstra has often stated on advertisements that their customers are important. This latest disgraceful conduct by Telstra, proves they really only care about dollars, not customers.

    I am a Telstra victim. Telst ...Anonymous -- 14/08/01

    I am a Telstra victim.

    Telstra will not improve unless people will start dropping them and go elsewhere.

    Yes it is that simple, Telstra is that dense.

    I was on Telstra broadband service and before I signed up I phoned them about their poilicy.
    Telstra told me I could download 10 time the amount of data the average user is allowed to download. As it turn out this was misrepresented.

    The service was down all the time, to the extend that I considered it unusable.

    I am now back on reliable unlimited (data/time) dial-up again.

    I will never use Telstra again, and have switched my mobile and fix phone to a competitor.

    If you want to see improvenments to Telstra's service than this is the only way to do it, to someone who delivers on their promises!

    I didn't ring BigPond to compl ...Anonymous -- 14/08/01

    I didn't ring BigPond to complain, as from reading the support group I kwen I would be wasting my time and money, but that does not mean I was not unhappy with the service or the statis page, 10 days is a long time to fix anything. I was able to get my groups though Google Cheers JJ

    As a BigPond dialup customer I ...Anonymous -- 14/08/01

    As a BigPond dialup customer I am completely disgusted with the way Telstra handles problems with its services.

    I joined BigPond as I assumed, wrongly it seems, that Telstra would have the resources to look after all its customers. Whereas a smaller ISP might have fewer resources and take longer to fix problems.

    I consider 10 days comletely unacceptable, but it appears we can't complain as they don't guarantee a reliable service. I must of missed the fine print that defined reliable as 'when we get around to it'!

    I didn't complain as last time I just got the run around, and got no response even after the problem was fixed.

    Well - I think it's finally up ...John Slaven -- 14/08/01

    Well - I think it's finally up and running again, touch wood. It's a shame that Bigpond has had to resort to lies and deceipt as well as hiding behind clause 4 in the agreement instead of coming straight out and trying to help us out. Not suprised though.

    Being in the IT industry and r ...Anonymous -- 14/08/01

    Being in the IT industry and running my own server (in the US). I know that downtime is inevitable and is something we should expect.

    With Bigpond, we go from Email downtime, to access downtime and now Newsgroup downtime continuously and to make it worse, there is no where to turn for help or information about the problem.

    It is an outrage and thinking about my dealings with Bigpond makes my blood boil. There is no use in calling support, I gave that up a long time ago. Calling support seems to only make matters worse ..... and leave you feeling cranky and helpless.

    I'm stuck with Bigpond on an 18 Month contract, due to the phone lines in my area (30 Minutes from Newcastle)that only allow a 14.4 Kbs connection I have to use the Bigpond Satellite service. Since I signed up around 1 year ago there have been continuos problems and the bottom line is that the service cannot be relied upon and the support only makes problem worse. I can't wait to the 18 months is completed.

    If anyone is using telstra lea ...Anonymous -- 15/08/01

    If anyone is using telstra leave straight away. They treat you like dogs. I left long time ago and never looked back. I hope optus will takes teltra's place as the major telephone company in australia because at least they care about their customers. I don't care if it's foregin owned.

    The daylight robbery tactics w ...Anonymous -- 15/08/01

    The daylight robbery tactics will backfire.

    I wonder how many people left Telstra after they changed the rubber contract to 3 gigabytes.

    The damage this has done to Telstra will only be known in the future and I am sure Telstra miscalculated the resulting illwill and loss of revenue.

    Telstra deserves a lot more attention as it is getting. Politicans don't seem to be willing to do anything about Telstra beyond just lip service.

    Whenever I can get an angle to a conversation that allows me to mention the treatment I received form Telstra I do tell.

    It is important that people speak up about Telstra's misconduct.

    They seemed got away legally but in my book they are a deceptive company.

    I've been a Bigpond customer f ...Steve Robinson -- 15/08/01

    I've been a Bigpond customer for a couple of years now. This comes as NO surprise to me at all. Their newsgroup server is ALWAYS on the blink and has been for at least 12 months, most times it's so slow, I just give up and just accept it as "The NORM". The children whom they have working on their (not so supportive)"Support" lines are NO HELP whatsoever. Although they are getting better at reading the prepared scripts that are in front of them.........

    We use ADSL at home, and I've ...Anonymous -- 15/08/01

    We use ADSL at home, and I've given up calling telstra when there's a problem. At first we would call every time we couldn't connect and their support staff would want us to re-install everything all the way back to the OS.

    Most the time, if I just let it go for anywhere between an hour to a day, the service will just start working again. I wouldn't be suprised if most users have given up calling their support line, it's just a waste of our time.

    I'm with Andrew! I gave up cal ...Steve Robinson -- 15/08/01

    I'm with Andrew!

    I gave up calling Telstra months and months ago! I think it was after they had me re-install my modem and dial up networking 3 times in one day, strange how it's always the fault of OUR equipment...... The strange thing is, I have 3 PC's in my house and the problem was on ALL of them... Hmmmmmmm I'm left wondering how re-installing the software and hardware on one PC will fix ALL three? Ahhhhh the wonder of modern technology and tech support.......

    Why call support? My experie ...Anonymous -- 15/08/01

    Why call support?

    My experience with Telstra support is shocking.

    Their support staff seems to have no technical understanding whatsoever.

    They manage to enrage the callers and try to convince them that it must be the callers fault.

    Telstra has set the lowest ever possible standard.

    What a sick joke Telstra is!

    How can 10-15 complaints per d ...Anonymous -- 15/08/01

    How can 10-15 complaints per day not be a serious problem? Certainly a loss of connection is a more serious problem and does deserve priority. However I fail to see why the news server took such a low priority that it took almost 12 days to fix.
    Also I am yet to understand the reason for this loss of service and hence am unable to determine the likliehood of it happening again.
    If ISP's want to understand the high churn rates and lack of take of more expensive, faster services (ADSL, cable) then this is a very good example. You can not be sure you will get value for money.

    Its pointless complaining to T ...Anonymous -- 15/08/01

    Its pointless complaining to Telstra.

    They consider their customers the enemy not a client/customer/partner or ally.

    They do not offer service guaranties because they are so confident that they would lose so much money delivering the overpromised service that they feel it is better to say we garantee NOTHING except the that customers will have to pay.

    Of course been a monopoly they can do that, even most of their competitors are wholesale customers of Telstra. So there is not need to say Telstra is not a monopoly.

    As any experienced Bigpond use ...Anonymous -- 15/08/01

    As any experienced Bigpond user of newsgroups knows, when something's not working it is best to read bigpond.support for the "service status" than it is to check the service status page or ring technical support. In my experience, technical support usually denies any problem - the fault is the customer's, and the solution is invariably to reinstall some piece of software. Only if you can't establish a connection in the first place is it worthwile wasting more phone charges on a call to customer support in the hope you might get some real information.
    On Friday 10 August, Technical Support posted on bigpond.support seeking confirmation that outside posts were now being received and to advise of which groups still not doing so. The replies were unanimous that the server was still not working for any group. Yet there were no replies from Technical Support on any topic between 11.29 am Friday and 9.32 pm Monday. Hardly taking the issue seriously?

    In a competitive market with r ...Anonymous -- 16/08/01

    In a competitive market with real competition as oppossed to what we have now, a company like Telstra would soon file for bankrapcy. However as customers have no real choice they stay with Telstra and Telstra knows this and abuses the system.

    Big Pond is the trouble. Tech ...Anonymous -- 15/07/05

    Big Pond is the trouble.
    Tech support - just instructions reader
    customer service - just policy reader
    billing - just pay (they do not care service did not work)

    I used pigpond services for about 8 years.
    starting from dialup and then cable.
    It would be wrong to say that bp always down.
    But when it is down and you have to call tech support,in most scenarios they'll say "something wrong with your computer" or "we don't support this or that".
    Last month I call them to cancel my bp.
    Now I am looking around to move from telstra comletely.

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