Yahoo Mail: A dead hamster stole my e-mail

commentary In the last 10 years, I've lived in three countries, and changed address over 10 times. Furthermore, the last time I had a pet was some 15 years ago and, heartless cow that I am, I can't remember its name. I do remember it was a brown hamster with enormous testicles, but that really doesn't help me right now.

I'm frantically trying to remember those 10 postcodes and that hamster's name to convince Yahoo to give me my mail account back. Someone hijacked my Web mail account last week, which I opened about 10 years ago, and changed the password, locking me out of my own account.

Now I'm trying to persuade Yahoo that I'm the rightful user of my account. Given the password's been changed by the hijacker, I have to provide them other information -- my postcode when I set up the account, for one thing. I set it up some time in 1997. Or was it 1998?

They also want to know my pet's name. When I set up the account, in the heady late '90s, I chose the secret question "what is your pet's name?". I didn't have a pet at the time, so why I chose that secret question is anyone's guess.

Equally anyone's guess: how (and why) someone hijacked the account. I've never answered a phishing e-mail, written my password down, told it to anyone, and my antivirus, anti-spyware and assorted security software have got my work and home PC locked down tighter than David Beckham's speedos.

Maybe a keylogger, I wondered, but if anyone was keylogging me, why would they choose to thieve a Yahoo e-mail account and not the online banking accounts I use on the same machines? I can only assume because they have discovered I'm a journalist, looked at my account balance and felt a little sorry for me. After all, half of nothing is still nothing, even to a hijacker.

I can only assume some creative malfeasant cracked my password. I'm almost impressed.

I tried to recover my password the traditional way but my best attempts to persuade Yahoo's Web form that I did know my own postcode and date of birth proved ineffective. I was pretty sure I could remember my own birthday, but if Yahoo says I can't, I'm not one to argue.

After discovering the hijack on Sunday night, I set about contacting Yahoo about the mishap. The bile-boiling annoyance of being locked out of my own Yahoo mail was compounded by its virginal reticence to actually provide any real-time contact details.

Thank you Yahoo for that two fingered salute to customer care.

After trying to register my displeasure with Yahoo, among its various account abuse options (has your Yahoo account developed a specific personality of its own and tried poking you in the throat with a cocktail stick? Has your venereal disease been caused by Yahoo Instant Messenger? That sort of thing) and not finding a link that helped, I gambled on "I gave my account information away to someone else and my account has been compromised".

I hadn't, but it was the closest available thing to "some bastard nicked my account and I'm verging on the psychotic after filling in all your interminable forms to get it back".

I tried contacting Yahoo Australia's press people, who were as helpful as they could be given the circumstances, to see if they could help. Yahoo Australia can't apparently deal with Yahoo UK and Ireland accounts. (Psst, let me help you guys out here -- if you need to swap information across geographic borders, you should try the Internet -- it can be quite useful for that sort of thing).

Yahoo UK asked me for my postcode and date of birth. I told them again. They told me it didn't match the information they had on file. I told them I knew that. They asked for my secret question and answer from when I registered the account. I told them I registered it 10 years ago and couldn't remember either the question or the answer. They told me the question was "what is the name of your pet?".

After days of e-mail exchanges I could feel myself tantalisingly close to getting my account back. If only I can remember the name of my pet.

The hamster. The large-groined hamster. The large-groined hamster called ... nope, I can't remember. All that stands between me my 10 years of e-mail and contacts is one dead, scrotally superior rodent.

Do you know this hamster?

And try as I might, the name escapes me. I called my parents. They couldn't remember either. We spent minutes of our lives that we will never get back pondering the name of the dead hamster. They suggested finding a picture of the hamster in question in case it had the name written on the back.

It didn't.

So I e-mailed a list of best guesses to Yahoo, but I doubt it will be enough. If it helps, Yahoo, that's a picture of the hamster, above.

I can even remember the postcode of the house the hamster was in. Can I have my e-mail back now please?

By the way, if any readers out there fancy guessing what this hamster might be called, there's 10 years of e-mail in it for you ...

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Talkback 19 comments

    good suggestion Anonymous -- 29/11/07 (in reply to #320090752)

    i was thinking Buster gonad...

    hamster name Anonymous -- 12/04/08 (in reply to #320090752)

    her name is Casey

    Free Anonymous -- 29/11/07

    I am assuming you don't pay Yahoo for this email address?

    Thats the trouble with free email, not much help when it goes wrong...

    free email doesnt mean not profitable Anonymous -- 02/12/07 (in reply to #320090756)

    Yes Yahoo is free to the email user, but Yahoo uses that user base to sell ads and make profit. Therefore, Yahoo has both a moral duty of care, as well as being in a formal contractual relationship with its users.

    What formal contractual relationship? Anonymous -- 02/12/07 (in reply to #320090892)

    Here what the TOS (I presume this is the formal contract you refer to?) says:

    "17. DISCLAIMERS

    YOU EXPRESSLY ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT:

    1. YOUR USE OF THE SERVICE IS AT YOUR SOLE RISK. THE SERVICE IS PROVIDED ON AN "AS IS" AND "AS AVAILABLE" BASIS. TO TH E FULLEST EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW, YAHOO! EXPRESSLY DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, CONDITIONS AND OTHER TERMS OF ANY KIND, WHETHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO ANY IMPLIED TERM OF MERCHANTABILITY, SATISFACTORY Q UALITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, AND ANY TERM AS TO THE PROVISION OF SERVICES TO A STANDARD OF REASONABLE CARE AND SKILL OR AS TO NON-INFRINGEMENT OF ANY INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHT.
    2. YAHOO! MAKES NO WARRANTY OR REPRESENTATION THAT (i) THE SERVICE WILL MEET YOUR REQUIREMENTS, (ii) THE SERVICE WILL BE UNINTERRUPTED, TIMELY, SECURE, OR ERROR-FREE, (iii) THE RESULTS THAT MAY BE OBTAINED FROM THE USE OF THE SERVICE WIL L BE ACCURATE OR RELIABLE, (iv) THE QUALITY OF ANY PRODUCTS, SERVICES, INFORMATION, OR OTHER MATERIAL PURCHASED OR OBTA INED BY YOU THROUGH THE SERVICE WILL MEET YOUR EXPECTATIONS, AND (V) ANY ERRORS IN THE SOFTWARE WILL BE CORRECTED."

    The point stands that you wont get any accountability from a free email account..

    Hamster names Anonymous -- 29/11/07

    Special Patrol Group
    - from the Young Ones

    Who's to say that the security question was yours? Anonymous -- 29/11/07

    Surely if some malfeasant has taken over your account and changed the password, they have the capability to change the security question too? Who's to say that they didn't change the question, and set the answer to some gibberish, which you could never guess anyway?

    A good point Jo Best -- 30/11/07 (in reply to #320090766)

    And one I made to Yahoo earlier. Alas, the half-witted-ness of their system precludes them from considering anything other than the tiniest selection of unlikely scenarios, so they were unable to help with that one. Or anything else for that matter.

    You're not alone Anonymous -- 30/11/07

    I got a call today from a client who had the same thing happen to her Yahoo Mail account two days ago. She doesn't have access to press people; how did you gain access to anyone at Yahoo to communicate with?

    Contacts Jo Best -- 10/12/07 (in reply to #320090783)

    Aside from the press people, the only contact I managed to make with Yahoo was using their online forms. After filling out several of those, someone from Yahoo customer service replied over email (to a different email account, obviously). Little progress has been made to date.

    facebook David Long -- 01/12/07

    Change any accounts such as you facebook/banking so that it doesn't have your inaccesible email account set. Otherwise the crook could request password reminders sent to the email address and get into your other accounts too. Scary times.

    its not what it seems Anonymous -- 02/12/07

    I too lost access to my very old Yahoo account recently when I changed my password (and accidently mispelt it) after a laptop was stolen. Like you, I found I could not remember critical details to answer. And like you, I went through hell. For 3.5 months before I finally cracked my misspelt password, just 2 weeks before all my years of research stored on my account was deleted. Like you I tried everything to reach some human face of Yahoo for advice and help. Despite months of emails and international calls, I basically got nowhere except the same piece of Yahoo Spam over and over again - you have to provide your details. The problem was I thought I could provide my details, and I couldnt for the life of me figure out why I wasnt getting it right. Like you, I had half the world trying to remember the name of any pet that I might have had in the last 15 years, even though I was sure I would have just used one of my main pets.
    So when I finally - thank god oh thank god - cracked my own account, I immediately went to check what the details were that I wasnt able to remember. And guess what? THEY ARENT THERE! Some of the boxes are simply blank, and some boxes (like the alternative email address) had the main one repeated in it. So the message that you get at the end of the process - that the answer to your secret question is wrong, is actually not necessarily the case. You could have any one of the boxes filled in incorrectly.
    The problem I am lead to believe now, although as you can never get a human face at Yahoo to talk to so I cant prove this, is that accounts that are older than 4 years did not actually require all of the infomration that they do now. So older accounts simply dont have the information stored against them that Yahoo is today asking you to provide.
    Heavens knows how many people have suffered terribly through this gross irresponsibility and intransigence of Yahoo. Lets hope someone somewhere inside Yahoo reads this and fixes the problem before more people have their account deleted from under them. It all goes to show that a simple human interface is far more responsive and responsible than spam button pushers in India who have no power to do anything else more humane
    Tess

    Suffering this too Anonymous -- 04/12/07

    Lord knows how many accounts I've created over the years but I've used up every user name variant that includes any part of my name in any order. Having no more namespace to 'be me' I am trying to recover an old one. Problem? No way would I ever give an instant messenger my birthday and postal code, EVER.

    Also, I never had a pet and it wants to know my pets name. My guess is sometime in the distance past they included the pet question as the default selection, and accounts created before that simply ask you and yer screwed.

    I think my best bet is to continue to create hotmails to create yahoo's with until no names exist and they revise their recovery policy?

    reuse of name Anonymous -- 04/12/07 (in reply to #320090978)

    One of the things I discovered via the human face of Bigpond, was that once an account/address has been used, even if it then falls void, it will *never* be reused/reissued. Sort of makes sense. So, no, I'm afraid you will never get back your own name/address.

    The other horrific thing about Yahoo, is that they automatically and permanently delete an account after 4 months of inactivity. In my case, this would have happened even though I was emailing them in desperation for help every single day. My requests that my account not be deleted while I was trying to work through this problem, simply were ignored, or even worse, someone hit the *spam* button once more and I got the same stupid piece of spam mail again. Its a problem with call centres too, if someone gets rid of the incoming email by simply hitting the spam button back, their record for quickly dealing with problems looks good. Anyone who actually spent time reading the email is penalised, and could even lose their jobs. I repeat its simply unhuman what they are doing. I do understand that they have massive security issues - but being so unhuman about it, no, its simply not right. There are better ways of handling it.

    malfeasants got me too. Anonymous -- 07/03/08 (in reply to #320090987)

    I was oblivious to how vulnerable I was having a dinosaur/grandfather Yahoo! email account, until a few weeks ago.
    I attempted talking to the outsourced call center reps for help, but apparently my "pet name" responses were incorrect. One rep actually pronounced the company she was speaking for as jaw-hoe instead of yaw-who. Scary scary.
    The worst part of it all is that I lost all the job hunting information I had, and have to start completely over with that.
    I went to a gmail account, and will not save anything of pertinence in it.
    Jerks.

    i h8 hackers Anonymous -- 15/01/09

    iv been hacked on habbo.co.uk before i know this because my motto changed from mine and my friends name to eagle then an age :S an then i got logged out tryed to log back in but it said my p/w was wrong so the next day i tryed again and it let me but i thing its only because i have stuff on there and that hacker wanted me to get more stuff so they could nick it because my stuff still goes missing on it oh btw the hamster could be called sam he/she looks like a sam

    Go it alone Mel Sommersberg -- 15/01/09

    I realise that not everyone has the capacity to do this but the above scenario (and indeed a few other situations) made my choice to run my own mail server a lot easier than it normally would have been.

    I get more storage space than Google could ever hope to give their customers. I get better customer service for a lifetime than Yahoo could ever care to give in a few minutes. I don't have to pay anyone for it. I choose my own settings, e-mail addresses, attachment types/sizes and my own spam settings. I can also block any domain I want if a spammer is hitting me hard from a specific IP or hostname.

    Again, I know that not everyone has the capacity to do this but if you are handy at setting up servers and have a suitable internet connection with a static IP then I recommend it as a course of action against the commercially motivated resistance out there.

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