What's your number, Kevin Mitnick?

Elite ex-hacker Kevin Mitnick says most of the social engineering attacks using fraudulent identities that made him famous could have been stopped if his targets had just asked for his phone number.

Doing this, he said, would allow employees to verify a caller was who they said they were by calling them back at the provided number. In the case of someone looking to snaffle company details over the phone, it would scare them off immediately. If the caller was legitimate, they would be happy to comply with the request.

"If people would just call people back," Mitnick told attendees at a forum hosted by vendor Citrix this morning in Sydney, "it would eliminate 80 percent of the threat".

Mitnick described how the Motorola employee who delivered him secret company source code back in his hacking days gave him a nervous moment when the call was almost lost as she put him on hold to check some details with her security manager. Ultimately, however, that attempt succeeded.

While most people naturally wanted to help others who contacted them, he said, employees needed to be taught to deny requests that could compromise security.

The reformed hacker -- currently a security consultant -- pointed out those attempting to breach company security relied upon the intelligence-gathering they did in the lead-up to an attack. One fantastic target for such information, he said, was the company's IT helpdesk.

"They're there to help," he enthused, pointing out fraudsters calling a help desk number would be able to find out what verification tokens -- such as date of birth or employee ID number -- help desk staff used to verify a caller's identity. They could then go away, do some research and come back armed and ready to breach a user's account.

While Mitnick's social engineering tips are ultimately timeless and technology-neutral, the ex-hacker is obviously keeping up with today's tech gadgets.

He pointed out one of Apple's AirPort devices (a popular wireless hub) could instantly create a wireless access port into any company's headquarters if plugged into a company network port.

"You could just put a company logo on it, with a label saying 'IT Department, do not remove'," he said. "You could be browsing the network from the parking lot."

A USB bluetooth device would fulfil the same function if plugged into the back of an employee's PC, he said.

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Talkback 4 comments

  1. Kevin Mitnick is not an Elite ex-hacker. He is a con artist. He was extremely good at conning people into giving him data. Social engioneering may have helped him access networks, but he has never been more than a flim flam man. Nothing he says Anonymous -- 22/07/05

    Kevin Mitnick is not an Elite ex-hacker. He is a con artist. He was extremely good at conning people into giving him data. Social engioneering may have helped him access networks, but he has never been more than a flim flam man.

    Nothing he says is new. Dedicated researchers like Fred Cohen and others like him work tirelessly for less money and deliver more.

    Paying and supporting criminals (or ex criminals) such as Mitnick is wrong.

    We need to stop rewarding people for doing the wrong thing and start looking to rewarding those who stay on the straight and narrow.

    Hacker skills are not Audit skills. In contrast to popular oppinion, "hacker techniques" are far less effective than a well designed audit. There are empirical facts to support this.

    M2C

    1. It's the American Way Dichotimous Grok -- 09/11/05

      The President of the United States of America used to be a prolific consumer of Cocaine. Now he's the President. In the USA, we have a system of Justice that includes the concept of PAYING YOUR DEBT TO SOCIETY. If the President can rise to his level of influence WITHOUT paying his debt, why shouldn't a guy who HAS done so be afforded freedom of speech and the other guarantees of the Bill of Rights?

  2. Mitnick has a lot of offer. I heard him speak at RSA a few years back. He is a great speaker and has a lot of good security advice. Despite Craig's morales of hiring ex-criminals, apparently the US government and large businesses do not share hi Anonymous -- 25/07/05

    Mitnick has a lot of offer. I heard him speak at RSA a few years back. He is a great speaker and has a lot of good security advice.

    Despite Craig's morales of hiring ex-criminals, apparently the US government and large businesses do not share his shallow viewpoint.

    The best example being Frank Abagnale, the con-artist that now works for the FBI after stealing millions of dollars through check fraud schemes.

    Also, Robert Morris Jr. (the guy who released the Internet worm that caused millions in damages) is now a professor at MIT.

    Abagnale like Mitnick are now working on our side, which is a benefit to the community.

    Craig - take a look at Abagnale's and Mitnick's client list on their respective web sites and you will see what I mean.

    Cheers,

    Dennis

  3. I agree with Craigs comments. Look at it this way, would YOU trust someone to guard your premesis, just because they were successful into breaking into it themselves? To me, its just another way they are "conning" or "social engineering&quo Anonymous -- 28/07/05

    I agree with Craigs comments. Look at it this way, would YOU trust someone to guard your premesis, just because they were successful into breaking into it themselves? To me, its just another way they are "conning" or "social engineering" people/companies into getting what they want, or where they want.
    Want to work for the FBI? Do something illigal! ;-)

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