Claimed new Xbox exploits threaten mass piracy

Patrick Gray
27 June 2003 03:30 PM
Tags: xbox, linux, exploit, load, say, boot, piracy, console
A group of Xbox security researchers say they have found a way to run Linux on the Xbox games console without a mod chip and will go public with the technique if Microsoft won't talk to them about releasing an official Linux boot loader.

The group, who have asked not to be named in this article, approached ZDNet Australia after repeated attempts to contact Microsoft independently failed.

The researchers say they want Microsoft to release a "signed" Linux boot loader which would allow Xbox users to run the open source operating system on the console without installing a chip.

A signed Linux boot loader will not allow users to load pirated games, they say. However the release of the new Xbox exploits they claim to have developed to run Linux on the console would have the side-effect of allowing rampant piracy without the need to install a mod chip, something the hackers say they would like to avoid.

Michael Muir, of Australia's own OzXChip, a legal mod chip business, says the release of an "official" Linux boot loader would be a positive step.

"I would love to see a signed Linux boot loader even though I would essentially be out of business," he told ZDNet Australia .

Muir says the release of the claimed series of exploits, one of which is in the Xbox Dashboard utility--factory installed on the Xbox hard drive--could be disastrous for games companies intent on preventing piracy. If genuine, the exploits would allow anyone with even a slight technical knowledge to "re-flash" the Xbox BIOS, allowing users to pirate games. The only hardware modification necessary is a dollop of solder on the write enable pads on the motherboard.

It's because of the "dollop of solder" being added that the group isn't eligible for the US$100,000 prize being offered to the first person to run Linux on the Xbox with no hardware modifications at all.

The technique is understood to be not new as such. Since an exploit was found in the "save game" function of 007 Agent Under Fire  it has been possible for those who were willing to make the effort and had the necessary level of technical knowledge to modify the BIOS.

However the group believes that it's time to make it easier for users to take the steps necessary to run Linux on the console. Because the claimed chain of exploits is independent of any game, they could prove to become very popular. Users could download them from the Internet and load them into the Xbox through a memory card.

The range of exploits will be released within mere weeks if Microsoft doesn't respond to their requests for talks, they say.

Microsoft say the issue is with the piracy division of the company.

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Talkback 21 comments

    Hmmm, sounds to me like Microsoft wants to encourage the use of such exploits if they aren't willing to discuss anything with these hackers.Anonymous -- 27/06/03

    Hmmm, sounds to me like Microsoft wants to encourage the use of such exploits if they aren't willing to discuss anything with these hackers.

    Microsoft should deal with these hackers as terrorists. They threatening the livelyhood of the developers of those games with mass piracy, and threatening Microsoft to do what they want or else. Just goes to show that the only way Linux users could ever hAnonymous -- 27/06/03

    Microsoft should deal with these hackers as terrorists. They threatening the livelyhood of the developers of those games with mass piracy, and threatening Microsoft to do what they want or else. Just goes to show that the only way Linux users could ever hope to beat the masses is by threats, piracy and hacking. Doesn't sound like a very bright future for Linux to me.

    Microsoft should deal with these hackers as terrorists. They threatening the livelyhood of the developers of those games with mass piracy, and threatening Microsoft to do what they want or else. Just goes to show that the only way Linux users could ever hAnonymous -- 27/06/03

    Microsoft should deal with these hackers as terrorists. They threatening the livelyhood of the developers of those games with mass piracy, and threatening Microsoft to do what they want or else. Just goes to show that the only way Linux users could ever hope to beat the masses is by threats, piracy and hacking. Doesn't sound like a very bright future for Linux to me.

    I disagree that these people are "terrorists", they just want to encourage the use of the XBox as a Linux computer and are at least asking to discuss the matter with Microsoft. If MS isn't at least going to discuss the matter then theyAnon -- 27/06/03

    I disagree that these people are "terrorists", they just want to encourage the use of the XBox as a Linux computer and are at least asking to discuss the matter with Microsoft.

    If MS isn't at least going to discuss the matter then they deserve to have the exploits used for piracy!

    I do not endorse piracy but I do believe that the XBox should be able to be used as a Linux PC.

    Typical Micro$oft Refer it to the Piracy Department what a joke. It will be Xbox Independence Day when you can use a system for any purpose you like without being forced into using expensive Signed Code. Look at the way Micro$oft ConduAnonymous -- 27/06/03

    Typical Micro$oft Refer it to the Piracy Department what a joke.

    It will be Xbox Independence Day when you can use a system for any purpose you like without being forced into using expensive Signed Code.

    Look at the way Micro$oft Conducts business i doubt they would be approaching anyone if the boot was on the other foot.

    LOL who are the "Terrorists" the company trying to lock a system into using proprietry signed by Micro$oft code or the guys unlocking it so you can use the machine you spent your hard earned dollars on in any way you want, running whatever you want.

    Id take the Piracy reply as an insult and release it to spite the bastards if these Exploits were in my hands.

    Will be nice to see Xbox Live completely unlocked without a modchip to even be detected.

    Happy 4th of July Billy and the Xbox Team

    The fact is, this is not something that is designed to run linux. It is a machine designed to run software specifically created for it. This is known when people pay their "hard earned" money for it. So what if Microsoft don't want it to run 3rdAnonymous -- 28/06/03

    The fact is, this is not something that is designed to run linux. It is a machine designed to run software specifically created for it. This is known when people pay their "hard earned" money for it. So what if Microsoft don't want it to run 3rd party software. They made the damn thing, they can do what they want with it. Now stop being such a bunch of cheap bastards and buy a real PC to run your linux box and stop bitching.

    Hi yall, I just want you to know I don't appreciate all you 'H4CK0rZ' thieving my media empire. You better jump on the bandwagon and use it as I give it or I will take it away you spoiled brats. By the way, I do enjoy a nice read at XboxHacker.com, XboxHaBill Gates -- 28/06/03

    Hi yall, I just want you to know I don't appreciate all you 'H4CK0rZ' thieving my media empire. You better jump on the bandwagon and use it as I give it or I will take it away you spoiled brats. By the way, I do enjoy a nice read at XboxHacker.com, XboxHacker.net, and Xbox-Scene.com - Those sites will be shut down soon, don't fret. Oh, by the way, NICE BOOK BUNNIE. Can you say Palladium 5 times fast? Its coming.

    -Bill
    Microsoft

    If I pay for a piece of hardware, and I take that piece of hardware home, what I do with it from that point on is entirely my own business. I own it from end to end, I can dismantle it all I like. If Micro$oft wants to stop people from modifyinAnonymous -- 28/06/03

    If I pay for a piece of hardware, and I take that piece of hardware home, what I do with it from that point on is entirely my own business. I own it from end to end, I can dismantle it all I like.

    If Micro$oft wants to stop people from modifying the Xbox then they should stop selling it, and start leasing them instead. That way the lease could read that no hardware or firmware modification is allowed.

    So what's next.. if you buy a dodge you're only allowed to have it serviced at a Dodge dealer, you're not allowed to change the oil yourself?

    What are these so called hackers thinking. Hacks like these are widely available already. The only difference is that it can be done trough the Xbox dash. With current hacks you can achieve exactly the same but you'll need an original copy of 007 Agent unAnonymous -- 28/06/03

    What are these so called hackers thinking. Hacks like these are widely available already. The only difference is that it can be done trough the Xbox dash. With current hacks you can achieve exactly the same but you'll need an original copy of 007 Agent under fire or Mechassault.

    It would be stupid for Microsoft to comply to the demands of these guys. Eventually this exploit will become available anyway. The only solution is to update the xbox dash trough xbox live, add new security to new xboxes and let these guys go on with their hacking.

    To "anonymous": 1. livelihood is spelt thus 2. you're a dumbass - terrorists? pfft. i don't really understand the problems - MS still makes money on the x-box that someone buys to run linux on so why would they give a rajames -- 28/06/03

    To "anonymous":

    1. livelihood is spelt thus
    2. you're a dumbass - terrorists? pfft.

    i don't really understand the problems - MS still makes money on the x-box that someone buys to run linux on so why would they give a rats. if people want to use pirated games then they will - end of story.

    The reason why M$ wont give in to the demands is that they lose money selling the console, but make it up in the sale of games. The beauty (and irony) of running Linux on the Xbox is the fact that the cost of the hardware is being subsidised by MrDamage -- 28/06/03

    The reason why M$ wont give in to the demands is that they lose money selling the console, but make it up in the sale of games.

    The beauty (and irony) of running Linux on the Xbox is the fact that the cost of the hardware is being subsidised by Billy boy.

    Why dont they get linux running on the PS2? Because it isnt designed using standard PC architecture, where the Xbox is. That was the failing from day 1.

    If M$ is that worried about the linux "situation", they should build Xbox2 without any PC architecture.

    "Those who refuse to learn from histrory are destined to repeat it"

    Linux is out on PS2 dumbass. "Why dont they get linux running on the PS2? Because it isnt designed using standard PC architecture, where the Xbox is. That was the failing from day 1." Thats what the last guy posted.... Oscar Meyer -- 28/06/03

    Linux is out on PS2 dumbass.

    "Why dont they get linux running on the PS2? Because it isnt designed using standard PC architecture, where the Xbox is. That was the failing from day 1."

    Thats what the last guy posted....

    Here's the sites...

    Official PS2/Linux Page
    http://playstation2-linux.com/

    Where to get more info
    http://www.us.playstation.com/hardware/more/SCPH-97047.asp

    As the last guy said...

    "Those who refuse to learn from histrory are destined to repeat it"

    Idiot.

    Err yeah lets see, are MS gonna release a boot loader for an operating system that they are in competition with ? I dont think so...bob -- 28/06/03

    Err yeah lets see, are MS gonna release a boot loader for an operating system that they are in competition with ?
    I dont think so...

    I love the way people think just because they buy something, it gives them the right to modify it to perform illegal functions. The Xbox was not designed to be a typical "PC". It's a console. Why would you want to run Linux on a console machine Anonymous -- 30/06/03

    I love the way people think just because they buy something, it gives them the right to modify it to perform illegal functions. The Xbox was not designed to be a typical "PC". It's a console. Why would you want to run Linux on a console machine anyway? Of course! Just to be able to pirate games because you are too cheap to buy them. I can really see Microsoft making this happen. Not!

    The reason people may want to use linux on a xbox so they can have many more games w/emulators on linux and windows games that run with WineX or at least I would want to be able to do that if I had the ablity to and owned an Xbox!!! i think i might go buAnonymous -- 02/07/03

    The reason people may want to use linux on a xbox so they can have many more games w/emulators on linux and windows games that run with WineX or at least I would want to be able to do that if I had the ablity to and owned an Xbox!!! i think i might go buy an Xbox soon and ditch my macs b/c macs Suck and i think i may try to get a job at Microsoft and stopping At Apple

    I think it's a very good idea to run Linux on the X-Box. Basically, it is a normal computer system with some modifications. I wouldn't mind split-booting my X-Box, so I can use it to play X-Box games and as a small Linux workstation or server (maybe Simba7 -- 02/07/03

    I think it's a very good idea to run Linux on the X-Box. Basically, it is a normal computer system with some modifications.
    I wouldn't mind split-booting my X-Box, so I can use it to play X-Box games and as a small Linux workstation or server (maybe even FreeBSD).
    It isn't our fault that M$ is soo darn ignorant.

    In Response to MrDamage re PS2 > Why dont they get linux running on the PS2? > Because it isnt designed using standard PC > architecture, where the Xbox is. That was the > failing from day 1. Linux does run oAnonymous -- 02/07/03

    In Response to MrDamage re PS2

    > Why dont they get linux running on the PS2?
    > Because it isnt designed using standard PC
    > architecture, where the Xbox is. That was the
    > failing from day 1.

    Linux does run on the PS2,
    in fact Sony sell a Linux Dev Kit:

    http://playstation2-linux.com/faq.php#What_is_Linux_for_PS2

    In regards to all the "But linux does run on PS2" comments, the PS2 runs a MIPS processor, so A) Most linux distros don't support it, and B) even on distros that do you'll have difficulty compiling a lot of apps. The X-Box however has a standarAnonymous -- 04/07/03

    In regards to all the "But linux does run on PS2" comments, the PS2 runs a MIPS processor, so A) Most linux distros don't support it, and B) even on distros that do you'll have difficulty compiling a lot of apps. The X-Box however has a standard x86 processor so everything works extremely smoothly...pity bout the RAM limit tho - surface-mount soldering be a real pain, and that's *if* you can get the chips - coz with a little more ram these would be some damn nice little media/workstations....or even cheap servers for clustering :(

    we should get some terminology of a hacker correct here a hacker, in this situation are the people who take a piece of technology and try to extend it's usage i.e. in this case to run linux a cracker or pirate, would use this technologAnonymous -- 09/07/03

    we should get some terminology of a hacker correct here

    a hacker, in this situation are the people who take a piece of technology and try to extend it's usage i.e. in this case to run linux

    a cracker or pirate, would use this technology to pirate games etc.. which i think microsoft is most scared of

    microsoft should release a custom bootloader for the linux operating system, after all - once you've brought it you should be able to do what you like with it, it's not costing microsoft something and the fact remains that these people who wish to run linux on it obviously have no interest in running xbox based games (windows code) thus have no interest in pirating them

    Ok Mister Anonymous Location: Mullumbimbi Occupation: Hortaculturalist Great You want people to get on live with out running xbox dash board on there system great, Well have pirates, cheaters (100 bux right now, says that every Willard Of Bakerism -- 12/07/03

    Ok Mister Anonymous
    Location: Mullumbimbi
    Occupation: Hortaculturalist

    Great You want people to get on live with out running xbox dash board on there system great, Well have pirates, cheaters (100 bux right now, says that every person that uses this exploit will run a trainer while online and cheat), and who knows how many other unwanted types on live.

    I dont want Xbox modders on live, I think any that hacks xbox has too much time on there hands.

    Why dont the linux folks get back to making linux easier to use? instead of making it harder to use, and laughing in the face of any new linux user, that comes and asks a queston, and promptly runs, because linux gurus will chase him down with a hatchet for asking a simple question.

    You don't own the copyright to ur system, you own the license, and while this does give u the right to do any thing to it, it doesn't give u the right to pirate games, and cheat the system, so you don't gotta pay for hard working peoples blood,sweat and freaking tears!

    I love my xbox, I love my ps2, I love my Gamecube. But when it comes down to it. Its not because xbox is a cheap pc, useing pc components, Its not because of some honorable, or moral hacker ethic.

    The only reason xbox is the hardest hacked system of all time. Is because hackers, and Linux users hate Windows, it is the big man on campus, They hack it, and let people pirate games, and say Oh this was just for educational usage. ooooo we can't be held accountable for this.

    They hack it, BEcause its Microsoft and that is a pretty sad reason.

    Its like the guy that incites a mob, HE Can go to jail. I personally think people creating Mod chips, and creating these exploits, should be put in jail. Because like the guy that incited the riot of the mob, He helped an illegal activity to come into being.

    These mod chippers and hackers are doing the same exact thing.

    We live in a capitolistic society, I'm from america. Money means life here, In AUS its the same, you can't buy a house, a car, a wallabee, or any thing, with out money.

    So stop saying MS is this big bad company, becuase they have so much money.

    Its the way of the world. If companies didn't use cut throat tactics, then there would be no money, and we would all still be in the dark age.

    Willard Of Bakerism, I'm not usually one to flame, but you, my friend, are an idiot. You obviously have no idea why we who use linux dislike M$, might it be their unstable code, their monopolising business strategy which cripples hundreds of smaAnonymous -- 28/08/03

    Willard Of Bakerism, I'm not usually one to flame, but you, my friend, are an idiot.

    You obviously have no idea why we who use linux dislike M$, might it be their unstable code, their monopolising business strategy which cripples hundreds of small developers every year? There's a reason the went before the DoJ....Oh, and did you happen to read the difference between a 'hacker' and a 'cracker' posted a couple of comments before you there?

    I'm sorry if you tried Linux and didn't have the mental capacity to understand it, or lacked the presence of mind to be able to pursue a task that requires more than 5mins of attention. Please refrain in future from blaming the Linux community for your shortcomings - how do you think we all learn to use it? I only started about a year and a half ago, and thanks to the wonderful folks out there on the net I now have quite a good grasp on the workings of *nix OS's.

    Go back to your gaming, hope that takes you somewhere in life. (Hopefully beyond your current apparent lack of ability to see another's perspective)

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