Australian Police chastised for Warez raids

The Australian Federal Police has been lambasted for its participation in last week's Internet piracy raids with some suggesting software houses should foot their own bill in the fight against illegal software use.

A coordinated international crackdown saw premises across the country raided and computer equipment seized by the federal police last week, although no arrests have been made to date.

Many ZDNet readers have expressed anger at what they consider to be the police enforcing copyright law for big software businesses whose own -inherent weaknesses" in software design are the root cause of the problem. Software houses should -put up or shut up" one reader said and not be so keen to spend taxpayers' money.

-Personally think the police should keep themselves concerned with bigger cyber crime issues like child pornography or Denial of Service attacks. Not raiding peoples' homes and taking computer equipment just because some software or movie company might lose a bit of money. They need to get their priorities right," another ZDNet reader from Western Australia said.

Retired computer engineer Keith Styles from Melbourne agreed: -Let the police do their job of policing for the community and stop working for big business corporations. Copyright is a business problem not a police problem. Let the [corporations] do their own dirty work."

The Australian Federal Police (AFP), which has had a small e-crime team working on the job "on and off" since March this year, said it -can't please everyone", with an AFP spokesperson telling ZDNet Australia: -We get a lot of criticism that we don't do enough on copyright infringement."

"I can only say that it's well known that it's a multi-billion dollar industry...and serious criminality involved here."

However, of public concern over police involvement in the Australian raids, chairman of the Business Software Association of Australia (BSAA), Jim Macnamara, said: -These people partly have a point."

The majority of copyright breaches come under civil offences and should be dealt with by the industry, he explained. However, where pirating is conducted for the purpose of sale it becomes a criminal offence and -in this case we would argue most strongly such [AFP] action was most appropriate," Macnamara said.

Whilst Macnamara accepts that piracy is largely a civil offence that occurs in the workplace, this he said was a -multimillion dollar international theft ring".

"Why should it be treated any differently than international smuggling rings dealing in any other goods?"

Asked if the BSAA and local software houses sponsor such police raids, Macnamara said: -We can't give the police money, obviously that's inappropriate." However, the BSAA will provide the police force with information and technical expertise of which it wears the cost, he said.

"We certainly welcome the [recent] action...we're very, very pleased and commend the authorities worldwide," Macnamara said.

The BSAA was not the only outfit applauding the recent raids, with the Australian Linux community supporting the crackdown which it believes will make Linux and open source alternatives more favourable.

The BSAA said that worldwide downloading of pirated software from the Web costs US$1 billion a year, with about 500,000 Warez pages and 115,000 crack sites available at the beginning of 2000.

Software piracy costs Australian manufacturers AU$250 million a year and the local channel AU$286 million a year, the BSAA claims.

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Talkback 9 comments

    The BSAA doesn't seem to care ...Anonymous -- 19/12/01

    The BSAA doesn't seem to care about copyright infringements regarding GPL'd software, eg businesses using GPL'd software and using it for their own propriatory software products.

    Right..... Software hourses SH ...Anonymous -- 19/12/01

    Right..... Software hourses SHOULD pay copyright enforcement fees. While we are at it let's make banks and stores pay for their fight against armed robbers.... and let's make rape victims pay for their fight against rapists. Hell, let's charge all victims for the fees involved in policing any offence committed against them.

    Come on, this is illegal activity that is detrimental to society as a whole (increased cost of products).

    Every time i read an article a ...thomas -- 19/12/01

    Every time i read an article about software piracy, it mentions how much the software companies are losing in profit. But the truth is that most people who pirate software would never purchase it if they couldnt copy it. For example Adobe, Macromedia and CAD software can cost thousands of dollars, i dont think many kids or people who dont use the products for business purposes would every pay that type of money, the same goes for games and mp3's or low quality video files like divx. The truth is most people can barely afford to keep upgrading their computer let alone buy the software they want.

    I cant believe that after all ...Anonymous -- 19/12/01

    I cant believe that after all this time fighting the Monarchy to have the right to become INDEPENDANT, that we again like evry other time, follow like a lamb to slaughter the Americans.... For god sake let us do things our way, on our time and when we think it is needed. I will admit that from time to time I go to the so called WAREZ sites but, only to preview the game with all the trimmings, I have never sold or rented out any of the games I d/loaded.

    These guys have it all wrong, web sites are not the place people go, web sites have to many pain in the but popups that become annoying or they want you to subscribe t them or a sponsor to get access. Another point to bring up is that the current rules for purchase and return of goods such as cds and games make it hard to try something out to see if you like it and be able to return it in a reasonable time... Catches on these purchases are - refund only if cover not opened, ( this is crap ), no refund only instore refund, ( meaning by another game here ) and so on.

    Sure demos are there, but with great limitations and oftem are a beta release meaning test version so it comes with many bugs. The price of games is also an issue. How can a reseller sell something for $99 then 2 months later sell it for $49.95 then a month or 2 later sell it for 19.95. This has nothing to do with piracy, it is the companies making and selling these games and so on that have become greedy. What ever happen to a game that use the max potential of your PC for under $50. It doesnt happen anymore. Money is money, if people wanted to waste it we would have worked out haw to grow it already

    In ref to Fedral and state police in the current events, I agree with most readers, its not the copying that is bad it is the selling and others making the royalties not the makers. Let the makers chase it up, the police have a hard enough time trying to keep our little island safe from everything else.

    Its time to make a stand for independance and stop following what everyone else does!!!!!!!

    Once again you see taxpayers m ...simple simon -- 19/12/01

    Once again you see taxpayers money being used for corporate pleasure.
    People it is not ok to sell or distibute illegal copies of software etc but i cant see any reson why u cant download it for your own personal appraisal, after all, the stuff is expensive and you want to make sure it is worth your hard earned dollars.

    what about the 175 thousand 63 ...Your Mum -- 15/01/02

    what about the 175 thousand 632 users currently on imesh and the 515 thousand 471 users on kazaa...are you going to raid all of their houses too...I THINK NOT! :p

    Philip Whose lost income ? Mos ...Anonymous -- 16/01/02

    Philip

    Whose lost income ? Most of the money supposedly being lost is being shipped out to America. How much American money is spent on protecting the rights of Australian companies/individuals in America ? This is a civil matter let the companies look after themselves, there behaviours are morally bankrupt anyway. If Bill Gates can donate 2 billion to his charity foundation each year then software piracy cannot really be causing him to loose too much money. I would suspect it is his products that where most commonly pirated. Lets face it the constant upgrade costs that most software suppliers charge are not justified when the amount of code that actually changes between releases is so minimal.

    What's more important - the po ...Stephen Kuhn -- 04/05/02

    What's more important - the police spending their time and energies trying to target theives stealing from the elderly, breaking into homes, holding up small stores - or the police spending their time and energies upholding copyright violations? C'mon people - is plain logic such an illogical vision in the world of large corporations? The people are the ones that are constantly victimized; by the governments and the large corporations. Why have we let society move so far from the focus of the people and into the focus of large companies?

    What really sickens me is the ...Anonymous -- 07/05/02

    What really sickens me is the way $oftware hou$e$ try and justify their rip-off prices by claiming it is piracy forcing their prices up. So what they are trying to say is that if, by some miracle, everyone stopped pirating software tomorrow, then Micro$oft (for example) would stop charging extortionate prices for their $software ??
    Hmmmm. Excuse me, I appear to have wet my pants with laughter........

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