Aust ISPs hose down reported US copyright attack

Local Internet service providers (ISPs) have doused reported attempts by a US digital copyright solutions company to force them to terminate the Internet contracts of customers suspected of breaching copyright rules.

MediaForce, a US digital copyright solutions company claiming to act on behalf of Warner Bros, has reportedly sent a letter to at least one Australian ISP listing a series of IP addresses it claims have been used to illegally access copyrighted material. The letter goes on to request the user of the IP addresses be denied access, and that their account be terminated.

"Since you own this IP address, we request that you immediately do the following: 1) Disable access to the individual who has engaged in the conduct described above; and 2) Terminate any and all accounts that this individual has through you," read the letter, a copy of which has been posted on broadband forum site Whirlpool.

None of the five ISPs contacted by ZDNet Australia   claimed to have received the letter, but most indicated they would be unlikely to comply with the requests in the letter if they did receive one.

"We wouldn't act on it because Warner Bros is not a government body that would act on those things," Iain McKimm, Pacific Internet's director of technology and strategy told ZDNet Australia  . "We can't act as police, we have to act on what the guidelines are."

Brendan Scott, a lawyer with Gilbert and Tobin, said it was uncertain whether MediaForce could bring legal proceedings against an Australian ISP. "The reason I say maybe is that the law prohibits reproduction and distribution to the public, but, from memory, doesn't directly impose obligations on third parties," he said.

"That said, you can infringe copyright by authorising an infringement. Saying 'here go copy this for me' can itself be a breach of the Act." added Scott. "There is an argument that [if] an ISP knows that A is using a service to infringe copyright that the ISP should be liable."

"In one case, Telstra v APRA a couple of years ago, Telstra was found liable for music on hold that its customers played to their customers - even though Telstra had nothing to do with that music, weren't necessarily even aware of it, and couldn't stop it if they tried," said Scott. He pointed out that Australian courts don't enforce US law, so references to US legislation were spurious.

McKimm said MediaForce would have to go through regulatory channels if Pacific Internet was to comply with its requests. "[We won't act] unless we get something from the Attorney General or the Federal Police, or local police, otherwise we might be acting improperly."

McKimm pointed out that when Sony successfully had Sydney man Eddy Stevens charged with trademark infringement it proceeded through the proper authorities.

He also pointed out that when Australian authorities attempted to prosecute someone in the US the process was generally considered not worth the effort. "It takes so long, we have to get a court order out of Australia, then go to the US and the US has to act on them," said McKimm. "And we do find they tend to drag their feet."

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Talkback 9 comments

    why should aus isp's comply wi ...Anonymous -- 14/01/03

    why should aus isp's comply with americans? only when aus authorities ie. bsaa aria start enforcing restrictions is when aus isp's stop

    These ISP's should go and seek ...Anonymous -- 14/01/03

    These ISP's should go and seek legal advice to see if they can be liable for not taking down the material. If they can be found liable then take it down otherwise send them a letter stating that Australian law doesn't require them to do this, this and this and then ignore it.

    It is time to treat electronic ...Beat Odermatt -- 15/01/03

    It is time to treat electronic communication as any other types of communication. If for example stolen goods or pornographic stuff is sent via Australia Post or by Courier, the law will not punish the service provider, but the sender or receiver. An ISP is providing a service and it is up to the sender and receiver of electronic media to ensure compliance with current laws and standards. An ISP is not and should not become a Police Force and cannot be held responsible for the behaviour of its clients. It is in the interest of ISP's to inform their customers of their obligations, but the ISP's are not paid for law enforcement. If ISP's are forced into becoming law enforcers, the postal service and all courier services would have to open mail and parcels to ensure that no illegal goods are transported using their services. It is time that laws apply to all in an equalitarian way.

    Aust ISP's should reply for US ...The Thinker -- 15/01/03

    Aust ISP's should reply for US corps to take their case to US courts, and that presumption of innocence exists until US corps meet their burden of proof in the judicial system against violators. It is not the function of Aust ISPs to take the law into their own hands. By disconnecting a suspect, an ISP would be more than just police, they would be the judge, jury, and executioner as well.

    If those bastards at the RIAA ...Anonymous -- 16/01/03

    If those bastards at the RIAA and the MPAA want to protect their rights, they should use the Australian legal system, not resort to threats and intimidation tactics. They are simply doing this because going through the proper channels costs them too much out of their precious multi-billion dollar profits.

    how did the american music **** ...Anonymous -- 17/01/03

    how did the american music association obtain those IP users it claims are breaching copy rights? Are australian ISP aware that the AMA are "hacking" into the ISP systems to obtain IP numbers of so called copyright breachers.

    Australian Courts and Law are ...Anonymous -- 19/01/03

    Australian Courts and Law are not beholden to Corporate America.
    US law is based on who has the biggest Bank Account, not the merit of logical argument and evidence.
    Otherwise the discredited business model of the recording industry would be ample proof that they have brought all their present problems on themselves.

    The RIAA et al just don't get it, do they?
    The US has the best Politicians that money can buy. :)

    Well it happened to me. I load ...Anonymous -- 10/03/04

    Well it happened to me.

    I loaded up Emule, wasn't exactly sure what I was doing. Left it running for a night to look for a photo program for my new digital camera (just to try I will buy after) I got 2 programs.
    Found the one I liked and bought it.

    Next thing I know my account has been disconnected due to copyright infringements.

    That sucks. I'm at Uni. Can't afford to guy buy crappy programs that I can't test before hand.
    I have always bought software this has just made me hate the people who pirate software so much more.

    Qn.. Cyberjester -- 10/08/09

    Here's a thought.. How does Warner Brothers know that these IP's have accessed the material? If they hacked the computers, they broke the law and the case is out. If they found the IP through a torrent client, then they uploaded the illegal material to the person and that's entrapment. Case is out. Etc.

    ISP's don't have to do anything. Warner Bro's would have to prove is has a case first, and that the case is valid before the ISP's even think of terminating the connection.

    Oh yea. This isn't Russia or China. This is Aus. Since when do nazi's police the internet?

    Internet has waaaaaaay more issues than a downloaded movie..

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