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Apple is a mobile phone manufacturer; a revolutionary mobile phone manufacturer, to be precise. The others will not be "coming out with devices that have similar functionality," since Apple has over 200 patents granted and pending on iPhone and intends to strongly protect them, according to CEO Steve Jobs.
The "iPhone" name dispute with Cisco is a non-story and meaningless. Anyone who brings it up is either looking to bolster their list of iPhone FUD or is an ignoramus.
Apple's exclusive carrier arrangement with Cingular is for the US-only, hence the use of a US carrier. Steve Jobs said clearly that iPhone will go 3G in the future which means many carrier possibilities for Apple around the world. Non-US carriers need not fit current iPhone specs.
The battery design is not a sticking point and we can give you about 21 million reasons from last quarter alone, if need be.
And, finally, Steve Jobs has obviously already told Telstra to go pound sand and that's exactly why you see this sniveling, whiny little baby's comments in print today. There are now two very different kinds of mobile carriers: Apple iPhone haves and have-nots. The former group is planning where to store their new profits while the latter group is stuck trying to spread FUD in public (with laughable results, as you can see above) while pulling out their hair in private.
Winn, you lose.
The only thing that would stop me getting an iPhone would be a carrier as slimey as Telstra.
You know, I love MacDailyNews' take on this story:
MacDailyNews Take: Apple is a mobile phone manufacturer; a revolutionary mobile phone manufacturer, to be precise. The others will not be "coming out with devices that have similar functionality," since Apple has over 200 patents granted and pending on iPhone and intends to strongly protect them, according to CEO Steve Jobs.
The "iPhone" name dispute with Cisco is a non-story and meaningless. Anyone who brings it up is either looking to bolster their list of iPhone FUD or is an ignoramus.
Apple's exclusive carrier arrangement with Cingular is for the US-only, hence the use of a US carrier. Steve Jobs said clearly that iPhone will go 3G in the future which means many carrier possibilities for Apple around the world. Non-US carriers need not fit current iPhone specs.
The battery design is not a sticking point and we can give you about 21 million reasons from last quarter alone, if need be.
And, finally, Steve Jobs has obviously already told Telstra to go pound sand and that's exactly why you see this sniveling, whiny little baby's comments in print today. There are now two very different kinds of mobile carriers: Apple iPhone haves and have-nots. The former group is planning where to store their new profits while the latter group is stuck trying to spread FUD in public (with laughable results, as you can see above) while pulling out their hair in private.
Winn, you lose.
What a daft statement "There's an old saying -- stick to your knitting -- and Apple is not a mobile phone manufacturer, that's not their knitting," Winn told AAP.
What then has Telstra (and the Goverment) been doing in the last two decades ... knitting apparently!
The reason that Australia, which used to be near the top in Internet penetration some 15-20 years ago, is now lagging is a combination of Telstra and Goverment lack of vision. The infrastructure component of Telstra should be Government owned or controlled (like roads) and everybody should be allowed to compete. I and many others are still upset about the cancelling of a promised broadband project in the early 1990's in Gungahlin ... not wise to upset a technologically literate population and a very dumb move considering the rapid movement to broadband elsewhere. Of course I am still waiting to have access to REAL broadband (>10Mbps) ... fortunately I have access to gigabit at work for my research. Others are not so lucky ... so much for the Lucky Country!
Once they wake up (Telstra and the Government) maybe they'll do something useful ... Hmmm ... the blue of the Telstra logo reminds me of that fish from Finding Nemo ... the "delay-fish" .... just Telstra aint as cute!
All the anti-Telstra sniping in the world doesn't alter the fact that that the Apple iPhone is arguably the most over-hyped mobile device since the N-Gage. There is really not a single piece of genuinely new technology in its entire makeup. Sure, it has a funky new Apple design and the UI is pretty snazzy, but there really isn't anything in the device that hasn't been implemented by other mobile manufacturers.
Such is the pace of development in the mobile world that by the time the iPhone gets out of the US, the Nokias and SEs of the world will have surpassed it - with something that's also 3G compatible.
It's true, this new iphone has got nothing my JASJAM doesn't already have. OK, maybe looks a bit snazzier but so what. My i-mate has all this functionality plus more - this would have to be one of the most over-rated devices in recent history.
here is overwhelming. What a prick.
Cingular is the only provider available in many areas of the US with 4 band phones thus iPhone having global intention chose Cingular. Anyone that uses an Apple computer with OS X knows the potential of having the 2 most used devices in their lives fully integrated. This is a point that seems to be ignored, overlooked or not understood; this is the strength of the iPhone. I'm sure that many will point to the limited number of OS X users compared to the number of cell phone users. In the end the most satisfying cell phone use will be had by those using an Apple computer with iPhone. As Apple has suggested, if they wind up with 1% of cell phone users they will be successful. Meanwhile the rest of the world will try to reinvent what Apple has created, a near perfect synergy between the personal computer and the phone. if the value of this synergy means nothing to you then you should be happy with a rotary dial phone. From the comments of Greg Winn, I assume you can get one from Telsta.
You know nothing about mobile phones if you think this device is a mobile computer. It has a highly proprietary application platform (unlike the PocketPC OS, or even JAVA on non-smartphones). It has nothing that a decent pocket pc phone doesn't already have, and a pocket pc is a much more developer friendly platform (aka more available software)
... Go get a life, nut job!
I had dismissed the iphone as a bit wet but now Telstra says it's no good I must take another look. I must have missed something
What a disgusting peice of negativity at one of the greatest mobile products ever launched.
Coming from "second-in-charge" from Telstra, this attitude is a typical one that sweeps through the rest of the company.
Compare Steve Jobs leadership and vision against Greg Winn's sour grapes.
Maybe if you thought about innovating and cleaning up your own Telstra product line then you'd be comparable to the icon Apple. Instead of just bagging products that don't fit your existing financial agreements.
only "Apple tragics" see this as "the greatest mobile product ever launched". Because Apple fans have no concept of technology available in non-Apple products (all they care about is Apple), and because they believe Apple are best at everything, they therefore believe without question the Apple hype about the iphone.
Open your eyes guys...my current XDA mini is already more versatile and powerful than the proposed iphone (which by the way hasn't even been released yet).
In my opinion, Apple iPhone is hardly innovative at all. It does have a few eye-candy features but of no real value. And I think the LG Prada looks more sexy by comparison. However I still love my imate JASJAM the most. imate has some new models (notably the 7150) to come up later this year. Hope Telstra would bring those to the Australian market.
Remember guys, the iPod offered nothing new when it came out. It was just an mp3 player, there were already other competitors entrenched in the market with equivalent, (indeed better) technology and features for a comparable price. And when the iPod did come out the rest of the market scrambled to emulate as best it could.
But the iPod succeeded, not because the technology was any better, but because it made it simple and sexy. It put all of this power in the hands of ordinary users, and with a slick design.
Apple with the iPhone is doing exactly the same thing for mobile phones as the ipod did for mp3 players. It is taking all the technology that has been crammed for a long time into existing phones, and repacking it into somethign sleek, sexy and easy to use.
Nothing new? Technology-wise; not really. But experience-wise; absolutely. Ultimately experience is what counts in the minds of consumers, not the technology. And for this reason it has every reason to succeed the same way the ipod did.
Telstra coming out a whinging about the iPhone is probably the singlemost smartest thing they have ever done. It should hopefully ensure that the money grabbing, backward thinking, middle of the road, greedy corporate dickwads now have no chance of getting access to the iPhone. Which makes my year. The only thing that outstripped my glee at the announcement of the iPhone, was the fear that Telstra would get to carry it. I am not making this up - but the amount of overbilling (that I picked up) from Telstra during the darkest 13 years of my life (when I was a customer) would more than cover a new iPhone every year, if the Winn-projected battery saga ever eventuates. As for sticking to their knitting - what sort of muppet would say that in the face of the earth shattering success of the iPod? If Apple stuck to their knitting, where would the iPod (It's not a computer, it's not software?) be today? Good Call Winnd Bag - please continue to distance yourself from all things cool.
Our broard band & communications service is second rate at best when compared with other developed and the larger developing countries. Now our Telco’s particularly Telstra appear to be adopting a similar head in the sand attitude to new technology. Why, because of their short-term thinking and along government regulators who have lost sight of the fact that telecommunications are a service not a cash cow to be sold off when it is getting old in need of upgrades.
Who wants a new iphone? The iphone is a slick package that works well in the US, mainly because that in the US Singular for very minimal investment in modifying the software on current 2G to 2.5G networks to deliver the full function of this phone. The result rivals our current 3g networks in performance at an excellent price. Apple with their global 1% aspiration will make the Telstra look as foolish as the early ipod critics. Why does an exec from Telstra bag this phone?
Why doesn’t our government jump on this & other simple cost effective ideas? Is their some financial reason to keep pushing 3g as the only way to go? Who was it that said “we did not need packet radio” or data casting”? Is this just a silly question? Is Telstra just kidding?, that's it, they haven’t really lost sight of giving the consumers a good cheap modern reliable service , but are actually trying to keep their share price down so they don’t become a takeover target like Quantas.
Telstra are bagging the iphone due to apple's deal with cingular. And I agree. How is it in the best interest of the mobile phone users of the world (or even just the US) to be forced to swap carriers if they want an iphone?
It's a joke.
why cant all the phone companies have the same things that Telstra has like Optus because that would be tight if all the other countries get to enoy the slik and shiny APPLE IPHONE and Australia cant i mean how tight would that be i do not agree with Telstra if they reject the invitation to the IPHONE by Steve Jobs howver if Telstra lets Australia enjoy the IPHONE like all the other countries, i would buy it straight away and switch to Telstra 3G network straight away.
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"They did an exclusive with Cingular and they talked about a global rollout -- well, Cingular is not a global company," he said.
Oh boy,..thanks Telstra for clearing that up...not!
The exclusive was clearly for the US launch only..as stated !