NSW government fast-tracks computers for schools

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18 March 2005 10:50 AM
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    If governments replaced every ...Anonymous -- 20/03/05

    If governments replaced every second Microsoft seat with a Linux seat, the ratio of computers:students would go up significantly. People would still have their Windows, while learning how to use desktop Linux (it's easy) and finding out how better off they really are. :)

    $795,000,000 / 9000 computers ...Anonymous -- 20/03/05

    $795,000,000 / 9000 computers == $1258 per computer. Pick a reseller at random - http://www.ple.com.au/homesmall.php - and look for a suitable PC: $1040 inc GST. Lop off $149 for XP Home OEM since schools effectively won't be paying for that to get $891 a seat. OK, where's the other $367 going?

    When you remember that the $891 is a retail price for just one machine and that you'd expect *much* better pricing for 9000 of the suckers, the problem gets much worse.

    I can supply Athlon64 machines with a full gigabyte of RAM and 200GB hard disk for those prices at quantity 1000 up.

    Where has all the money gone?

    Con Zymaris reminds us that Ex ...Anonymous -- 20/03/05

    Con Zymaris reminds us that Extramadura (in Spain) was aiming for three times the computer-to-student density that Bob Carr is here proud of, using only Linux-based computers. Extramadura is not a rich place. Has Paul Keating's banana republic finally arrived?

    Extremadura, Spain "... h ...Anonymous -- 20/03/05

    Extremadura, Spain "... has a ratio of 1 PC per 2 students."

    FLOSS deployment in Extremadura, Spain
    <a href="http://europa.eu.int/idabc/en/document/1637/470">http://europa.eu.int/idabc/en/document/1637/470</a>

    "Based on a distribution of a minimum of 40,000 copies of the LinEx software in schools, the project has calculated to save a total amount of €30 million compared to more closed or non-free software solutions."

    Ideal context for using Linux ...Anonymous -- 20/03/05

    Ideal context for using Linux Terminal Server Project. Oregon public schools in the US have had great success with that. Low costs, low / easy maintenance, and no security problems. You can buy cheap diskless machines for less than $100 each and have two dual Xeons or dual G5 Xserves (running linux) to serve the applications.

    http://www.ltsp.org/

    Whoops, dropped a major decima ...Anonymous -- 22/03/05

    Whoops, dropped a major decimal there! )-:

    39,000 computers * 4 years == 156,000 computers.

    $795,000,000 / 156,000 computers == $5096 per computer.

    For that much, they can have dual Athlon64s, a couple of GB of RAM, DVD burners, a pair of RAID1'ed 200GB hard drives dual 17" flatscreens and a glow-in-the-dark video card to drive them. And I'd still take home a whopping >150% markup.

    If they spent half of that money on support, that's still more than $600 per seat per year even with the whizz-bang hardware. I'd be startled if I had to spend $60 per seat per year, but maybe I've been free of MS Windows for too long? Even if they had to build a $200,000 computer lab complex for every 100 computers they shipped, it's still too much money.

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