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Microsoft slams iPhone as irrelevant

Apple's soon-to-be-launched iPhone will be irrelevant to business users because it is a "closed device" and does not support Microsoft Office, a senior executive with the software giant said this week.

"It's a great music phone, and I'm sure it will be fantastic and have an interesting user interface," Microsoft's Asia-Pacific head of smartphone strategy Chris Sorenson told press during a recent visit to Australia.

"However, it's a closed device that you cannot install applications on, and there's no support for Office documents. If you're an enterprise and want to roll out line of business applications, it's just not an option. Even using it as a heavy messaging device will be a challenge," the executive added.

One hundred and forty phone models already run Microsoft's Windows Mobile operating system, while Apple's new device is not expected to hit the US market until June, and Australia in 2008. The Windows mobile devices have picked up a significant portion of the converged device market, although they are up against the dominance of Nokia and its Symbian OS, Research in Motion and its BlackBerry OS, and decreasingly, Palm.

While the entry of the iPhone (with its cut-down version of Mac OS X) into this market offers new options for consumers, Sorenson believes user familiarity with the Windows Mobile interface -- and the ease with which companies can buy and develop applications for the platform -- will sustain its increasing popularity and help keep the iPhone out of the lucrative corporate market.

Windows Mobile was released in May 2005, but it wasn't until early 2006 that devices based on the operating system had become widely available to Australian buyers. By contrast, devices running the latest version 6 of Windows Mobile (WM6) will be on the Australian market before the end of the month -- beating Microsoft's own projections that the platform would ship in the third calendar quarter.

While the iPhone will focus on integrating phone, Internet browsing and iPod features, WM6 adds enterprise-targeted features such as better synchronisation of data between mobile devices and office servers.

"The market in Australia is demanding the newest and greatest mobile technology."

"With 3G we see Australians wanting more bandwidth on devices than ever before. There's a growing trend towards smarter devices, and with WM6 we've tried to bring more of what you can do on a PC, onto the devices. Manufacturers can innovate heavily in their designs, but keep that consistent [Windows] look and feel," Sorenson said.

When contacted, an Apple Australia spokesperson said: "I am not interested in commenting".

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Talkback 38 comments

  1. Oxymoronic Statements George Bray -- 19/04/07

    Consistent Windows user interface? You've gotta be kidding. It's taken them six versions to achieve the pinnacle of bloatware on a mobile device.

    Microsoft is scared of the innovation that will occur on the iPhone as a new platform - one that won't have the baggage of trying to fit desktop applications in a handheld GUI.

    These comments parallel John Howard's pre-emptive verbiage about the oncoming Rudd train.

    1. The neighing and Braying of barnyard animals Anon Ymous -- 20/04/07

      Are you stupid? What innovation? You can't write software for it because Apple won't let you!

    2. You're the stupid one! Anonymous -- 21/04/07

      Lots of people write software for Apple!

    3. Microsoft New Phone! Raul Vaccaro -- 22/04/07

      Microsoft is really unconfortable with the Apple iPhone, they are going to joint a minor company http://www.zenzui.com/ to launch a similar phone as they do with the Zune.. Crazy attitude..

    4. i agree batman -- 09/05/07

      i agree

  2. Just like the Blackberry is irrelevant Anonymous -- 20/04/07

    Just like the Blackberry is irrelevant I guess also. FUD at a high level. MS also claimed the iPod irrelevant, now they are going all out trying to compete with it and guess waht their efforts have been TOTALLY irrelevant!

    1. Huh? Anonymous -- 20/04/07

      But the Blackberry isn't irrelevent as it can be used with exchange as well as other email servers and hence does play with other people's software.

      Apple, as always, like to monopolise their whole platform and is building irrelevancy into their new iPhone. Typical overpriced, under spec'd over designed Apple product.

    2. Sarcastic? Anonymous -- 21/04/07

      I do believe his comment was intented to be sarcastic. OF course the Backberrys relavent and so will the iPhone. WM is just such hopeless, delviered late, many devices cant use it, lack of development by M$ has held back the field. Let there be competition, even if is a control by Apple - at least it will work.

  3. Microsoft slams iPhone as 'irrelevant' David Garon -- 20/04/07

    Unimaginable, Microsoft slamming Apple! Of course Apple does the same to them, so I guess payback is fair-play, but with the number of Microsofties slamming the iPhone (from the sublime: Gates, to the ridiculous: Balmer), they must really be feeling the overwhelming success that Apple is experiencing with their mobile products. And why is MS always late to the party? Because, until the party is in full swing, they don't know what party to crash. In other words, since they rarely innovate and frequently imitate, what they imitate needs to be out there first. Very disturbed company!

  4. Complete FUD... m dunbar -- 20/04/07

    This is just more of the usual Microsoft nonsense that they always trot out every time anyone else comes up with something innovative.

    The pattern is:
    1) have a senior manager ridicule anyone else's new ideas to the press.
    2) claim no one will want it
    3) come out with a belated substandard offering, claiming the MS implementation is better (in this case, steps 1 through 3 were in response to the Newton, and Palm devices).
    4) attempt to dominate using Microsoft's patented arsenal of anti-competitive methods to stamp out any competition, up to and including trying to buy out everyone else, while continuing to flog their own substandard product, while spreading FUD as widely as possible about every one else's offerings (vis a vis, this article)
    5) try to take credit, claiming it was their idea all along, and that the actual inventors are merely 'imitating' Microsoft's implementation (they'll try this after Palm and Symbian are sufficiently subjugated)...

    Mobile windows always has been, and always will be, a bloated pile of crap, adopted only by the various zombie armies that seem to be lead by people whose most advanced technical knowledge appears to be gleaned from airline magazines.

    1. Complete FUD... Anon Ymous -- 20/04/07

      The pattern of the Apple Zealot is pretty obvious:

      1) Adopt a device, claim Apple has found the only right way of doing it.

      2) Claim that any critical analysis of that device is wrong, or irrelevant, regardless of the context. These (other) people, after all, don't innovate!

      3) Tell everyone how "innovative" Apple is, even though they aren't actually innovating anything - have a look at cell phones in japan, they make the iPhone look like a toy.

      4) Make some off-color comment about Microsoft, so they can seem socially acceptable to their friends who are also foaming at the mouth.

      5) Claim that you shouldn't need anything else in your device, because Apple has made all the choices for you. And you damn well should like it.

    2. Skewed View Anonymous -- 20/04/07

      he pattern of the Apple Zealot is pretty obvious:

      1) Hardly, but if it makes you feel better.

      2) The analysis is incorrect in all regards because as most people seem to have missed. We haven't seen the shipping product nor do we know what it's full capabilities are.

      3) That is actually amusing since most phones in Japan seem to center around being toys.

      4) Off color? Seems pretty straightforward, or do you need a list of MS business practices.

      5) I don't see anyone saying that except those who seem ot hate Apple and the iPhone. Again we haven't seen it or heard Apple's final word on accesibility to developers. Let's wait for WWDC before we "foam at the mouth"

  5. iPhone closed to Microsoft...... POT...KETTLE...BLACK! Anonymous -- 20/04/07

    iPhone closed to Microsoft...... POT...KETTLE...BLACK!

    I think Microsoft might be feeling a little anguish that Apple has decided not to make the iPhone compliant with the CLOSED Office suite format.

    Actually Microsoft the iPhone is open to everyone, by simply using open standards. It's Microsoft that should change the way Office works to be compliant with open standards.

    I think the tide is beginning to turn, and Microsoft is beginning to realise it cannot bank on the fact that it's systems and software will be forever ubiquituos and controlling the direction of document creation and software development.

    I like open standards - Hopefully Microsoft will get a clue and use them.

    If they dont, I dont believe too many people will be concerned if their iPhone cannot connect to the office suite / address book / contacts....

    They will just use an open standards software app to do it instead and forget MS Office.

    1. Open Document Standards Anonymous -- 21/04/07

      How about "Open Document Format" that has become an ISO Standard and is being mandated by quite a few governments in US and elsewhere?

  6. Google Writely, Presently, and Docs Ben McFerren -- 20/04/07

    You can upload to these browserbased tools and view easily. Plus .ppt, .xls, and .doc are compatible with Open Office. I think with Jobs being cozy with Schmidt, people will be able to find an easy way to open their Office documents with the iPhone. I personally can't wait to zoom in and out of a spreadsheet using this phone - something that can't be done or a treo or any other smart phone: only three columns :(

    1. Great Idea! Anon Ymous -- 20/04/07

      yes, let's upload ALL our sensitive company data to a google database! FANTASTIC IDEA.

      I'm sure your boss will love it!

    2. Reading actually is fundamental Anonymous -- 20/04/07

      Obviously you managed to overlook the part about Openoffice. Considering its architecture it should be a simple matter to get Openoffice on the iPhone and have all the hoity toity features the MS drones are buzzing about.

  7. Are Office-using mobile users who Apple is after John -- 20/04/07

    I'm not all that familiar with the specifics of the iPhone, but I'm not certain Apple is out to get this particular segment of mobile users.

    The iPhone seems to be targeted to a broader swath, not the road warriors who actually expect to get work done on their phone. Of course, as I said, I'm not totally familiar with all the features so, perhaps I'm mistaken.

    1. Exactly Anonymous -- 20/04/07

      That's exactly what I was thinking. They call it "irrelevant" because it's not targeting the same market as they are. When will the M$ jokers realize they aren't the only game in town.

  8. How about Flash folks? Anonymous -- 20/04/07

    If Apple is smart they'll make it so the only way to get apps on the thing is to allow Flash or Apollo. It's funny to hear Microsoft claiming the importance of apps on their phones. How many people actually install software on their crapping MobilePC phones? Seriously. How many?

  9. Apple han't marketed it as a killer business app! Anonymous -- 20/04/07

    This executive's comments are irrelevant. The iPhone imay not start out in the business world but I think that if it's as popular as some are predicting it will find a way into the business world by its sheer numbers (not to mention the other functions). It is only a matter of time.

  10. LOL Look @sales of Windoze VISTA - TALK ABOUT IRRELEVANT J. Payne -- 20/04/07

    How many companies ran right out to upgrade from XP to Vista soo far????

  11. upset $mS Anonymous -- 20/04/07

    The only reason they are upset is $MS is still to make something that appeals. Windows Mobile is just woeful to use, unreliable, most phone/pda devices have short battery life, all the things we dont want in something we have to rely on to 'just work' every day.
    $MS are scared and should be, the rest of the world are waiting for mobile computing to become reliable. Bring on the iphone I say, at least a company with a quality focus will set a benchmark and we can start to progress!

  12. Just like the iPod was - yup MS is loosing it a little! Mark Carroll -- 20/04/07

    Something that MS seems to forget is whatever people want becomes reality. You cant slam it when its done cause it just fits peoples expectations from the next generation device.
    MS, please pay a little more attention to your great Zune product, perhaps Apple could learn something from your mp3 player market dominance!

    What about web services coming to the forefront. Is this not the first great step. Having your apps on the net makes the iPhone Internet browser so much more powerful.

  13. Just like IBM Nathan Dickson -- 21/04/07

    It's so refreshing to hear a monolithic corporation, and one which dominates the current market, poo poo the little guy's product as irrelevant.

    In the 1970s, IBM, the "Microsoft" of its day, poo pooed the onslaught of consumer-oriented computers from Apple, Altair, Tandy and Commdore. However, in hindsight, we know that IBM was dead wrong.

    How refreshing to reflect upon that.

    1. Boy they cleaned up though gman -- 27/04/07

      IBM = Rich as God, so not really a bad mistake to try and lock out the competition, APPLE = Rich as Allah and growing share price based on more locked down development, Microsoft = Previous bad guy, now with a very open(ish) platform.

  14. Too bad MS can't write a good PDA browser Anonymous -- 21/04/07

    I use a Mobile 5 PDA that has a version of IE that it is so brain dead that it can't be used to enter even basic data to Microsoft SharePoint data sources or comply with even basic web standards.

    In reality, I expect that Safari (a more standard browser than IE) will work fine with Outlook Web Access and have the full connectivity you need to handle all the normal office connectivity requirements.

    IF Microsoft got their own products right they might have a better case for their argument.

  15. Corporate desktops are often locked down Anonymous -- 21/04/07

    MSFT has made a fatal mistake. Not only have they acknowledged their competitor but they have made them appear relevant enough to attack publicly.

    If Apple can deliver Exchange interoperability through their own software or an Apple approved third-party, then MSFTs claims will come back to haunt them.

    IT departments are concerned about interoperability and security so having a limited subset of software on a phone could be seen as a bonus.

  16. iPhone Relevance is Obvious Anonymous -- 21/04/07

    Microsoft just doesn't get it. And probably never will. Most everyone, whether in or out of business uses phones to talk to others, get email, listen to a tune. It is the exceptional idiot that uses a phone to work on an Office document. Give me a laptop for that anytime.

  17. Right! John L. Ries -- 22/04/07

    My cell phone doesn't run MS-Office either and I don't need it to (I need to to make and receive phone calls, primarily). I daresay that the number of PocketPCs with cell phone capability is still quite small (but what do I know?).

    Worst propaganda I've seen in weeks!

  18. Office on a tiny device? Anonymous -- 22/04/07

    Tell me, does anybody actually try to get work done on Office using a teeny keyboard? I don't use it, but a friend does, and his reports aren't encouraging. His phone actually crashes on him every few weeks.

    On the other hand, I know quite a few crackberry addicts.

  19. M$ not getting it Linton -- 24/04/07

    A couple of things I disagree with. Anyone discounting the iphone as useless is not right in the head, the ipod was not designed primarily for the corporate world and it continues to sell phenominally. The iphone was not designed primarily for the corporate it either. It is first and foremost a consumer device and the consumer is the biggest audience you could reach.

    secondly, no one knows if the iphone will indeed not sync up with office, and we certainly do not know if it will be a closed platform. The device is not even out yet, and Apple always pulls rabbits out the hat at the last minute.

    The fact is M$ is terrified of the iphone, they are terrified of the potential, and I'll bet that a couple versions down the line, Windows Mobile will emulate many of the things the iphone is doing now, including the interface. They've already ripped off OSX with Vista, the ipod with zune, could the iphone be next?

    M$ just better pray that apple doesn't make a corporate device, cause the sweat on their faces will go from drizzle to downpour.

  20. Get serious - ish Anonymous -- 27/04/07

    HA, terrified is probably a bit over the top but your enthusiasm gave me a chuckle. I think the headline of this article is a bit strong given that the first paragraph states:
    "It's a great music phone, and I'm sure it will be fantastic and have an interesting user interface," Microsoft's Asia-Pacific head of smartphone strategy Chris Sorenson told press during a recent visit to Australia

    The main point being that the closed nature of Apple (a bit like MS in the early days) will close out third party developers etc. I agree, stop making proprietrary software and hardware and open it up to broader market. Inevitably apple will become an evil empire if it hasnt already.

  21. Marketing the iPhone Roland -- 10/05/07

    What is so funny is that people are talking about how Apple are marketing the iPhone when they aren't marketing it at all.

    So far they have spent nothing, apart from Job's bus fare to MacWorld and an update to their website. No ads, no promotions, no PR activity - you can't even pre-order one yet.

    They are getting all this free publicity for a product that you can't yet buy and we don't even know what the exact feature set is.

    Microsoft spent a fortune marketing the Zune and Vista and yet iPhone is the story.

    In the days following CES in January the iPhone was the story of the consumer electronics world and Apple don't even exhibit at that show.

    Whether you like them or not, Apple are punching well above their weight, in an market where they have 0% market share and no prior track record.

    Marketing departments in other companies must be looking at Apple in awe.

    1. beauty of the free media david -- 16/05/07

      AGREED! jobs doesnt have to lift a finger for all this great publicity!!

  22. Microsoft slams iPhone as irrelevant Anonymous -- 17/05/07

    If past is any indication of the future, I say to Chris Sorenson that people will lap up the iphone as much as they are lappping up the macs since the introdution of unix based OS.

    Remember, macs were supposed to have died decades ago due to "limited" software written for them.

    Being a user of imac at home and windows laptop on the road, all I can say is that more is not always better.

    There are thousands of programs written for windows, many, perhaps majority, like the windows OS, are average at best (XP) and downright garbage at worst (remember windows 95?).

    Chris, people are writing programs and applications for the iphone , in the mac camp and the open source community, as I type this.

    And Apple ,being a "close" system, means that no garbage gets in through the "holes" left by the programmers.

  23. Apple iPhone Can Open Office Documents Anonymous -- 30/06/07

    Um, the iPhone can open Word and other office documents. Not sure who that supposed Microsoft Exec was.

  24. Hello 2007... Stephen Rose -- 09/03/08

    I guess Microsoft is screwed ... Because the two things that it said was holding iPhone back (Applications + MS Office support) are going to be available in iPhone 2.0 software update. Bummer for Microsoft. Yay for Apple.

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