iiNet keeps raincoat on, ready to expose naked DSL

WA-based ISP iiNet has announced plans to launch its naked DSL service later this month.

After testing its naked DSL service -- where users can take broadband without an accompanying phone line -- over the last two months, iiNet has indicated it is satisfied with the results and ready for naked DSL to go public.

The trial was conducted on an invite-only basis for some 60 existing iiNet users and will shortly be made available to all ADSL2+ customers.

"We're hoping to unite broadband access and VoIP capabilities within one service, while eliminating the need to rent a phone line to use them," said Mark White, iiNet's chief operating officer.

iiNet did not release any specific pricing details but claimed that the service would start at AU$10-$15 less than an average broadband package currently, taking into account the money saved by not renting a phone line.

"This is not a new technology," said White. "This is the way that most broadband and VoIP is provided in Europe."

"The capacity to provide this kind of service has always been there, but it's a new technology to Australia because of the way our market's configured," White continued. "We rent the lines from Telstra on a monthly basis and run the service over ULL, and changes to the rates earlier in the year have now made naked a viable proposition."

The company warned that using naked DSL is expected to disrupt other services that use a conventional phone line such as pay TV, monitored alarms and EFTPOS machines, but say that many of these problems are likely to be remedied by calling the relevant service provider.

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Talkback 15 comments

    Dsl upsetting TV etcAnonymous -- 03/11/07

    Bigpond upsets Pay TV and monitored alarms already without a filter.
    So what is the problem with iinet doing it?

    You don't get the pointAnonymous -- 04/11/07 (in reply to #320089065)

    There is one thing to run Security over IP but there are very few companies that truly offer this. Most have back to base base monitoring where the alarm dials the security company to registers an activity. With naked DSL not connected to the SPTN network it can not make a phone call.

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    Great for customers but at what costAnonymous -- 05/11/07

    This sounds great, but I'm just thinking would it cost jobs especially on telstra employee?

    hmmAnonymous -- 08/11/07 (in reply to #320089153)

    Agreed,

    But I am no charity and not interested in stuffing money in Telstra's pocket. IMHO they have been overpriced and stagnant with regards to australia's tech future.
    Taxes can take care of the Telstra employee if worse comes to worse. The nation is wealthy right now.

    We wouldn't want to give Sol a pay cutSol Man -- 08/11/07 (in reply to #320089153)

    Poor Sol works harder than any other Tesltra employee - if we all start finding was of not giving Telstra it's God given right to our money poor Sol may be limited to only a 5 digit pay rise every year.

    TaxesJosef Friston -- 18/02/08 (in reply to #320089153)

    Yes Taxes can take care of the Telstra employee if worse comes to worse. The nation is wealthy right now.

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    you didnt think about your answer very well...Anonymous -- 06/11/07

    If it requires a SPTN network to make a call why cant it be connected to the VOIP line to make the call? Or maybe Some time in the future Security company's might look in to monitoring alarms via internet?

    it's just not good enough..Dylan Boekelman -- 06/11/07 (in reply to #320089250)

    Of course it can be connected to a VoIP line - there are a multitude of ADSL wonder-modems which include analogue FXO/FXS ports to plug in your fax, phone, etc.

    However I highly doubt security companies would rely on IP for monitoring. The whole reason for POTS still existing is it's resiliency - ISDN goes down, ADSL goes down, but POTS/PSTN does not drop out unless the line is cut. I would never recommend that any business rely on VoIP for anything (however consumers don't care too much about quality if the price is better).

    You definately could do it. But it wouldn't be 100% reliable, especially with security/pay tv/eftpos etc because (from the top of my head) they are modulated/demodulated in the same way as your dial-up modem works and you just could NOT guarantee the quality required for that modulation with an audio codec.

    For an example, vinyl(POTS/PSTN) vs mp3(VOIP) - the quality is indistinguishable to your average joe, but someone with 'the ear' will tell you the vinyl has a more 'whole' sound - the same is true for VoIP. The slightest missing part of the frequency band and your 'modem style' conversation loses it's place and needs to renegotiate.

    Just not reliable enough. However if your security/pay tv companies wanted to connect via IP (say a VPN or MPLS shiv on the packet) they could do that (and transmit a lot more information at the same time), BUT - the internet is never 100% reliable while POTS/PSTN is.

    In my opinion, that's the bottom line for Australia. POTS isn't going anywhere until another technology becomes just as resilient and affordable. (I give it about 4-8 years :)

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