When angry Telstra shareholders attack

Telstra shareholders travelled from far and wide to vent their frustrations as owners and customers to the telco's chairperson, Catherine Livingstone and chief David Thodey.

Madam chairman, I'm disgusted by you. You give us bad service and a bad share price

Telstra shareholder

"Madam chairman, I'm disgusted by you. You give us bad service and a bad share price," a tense-looking Sydney-based shareholder told Livingstone today during question time at Telstra's annual general meeting (AGM) held at the Sydney Convention Centre.

The shareholder went on to note that Telstra's share price had fallen from $7.00 when he had bought them to the current price of just over $3.00. "It's disgusting. The share price is your fault," he said.

Livingstone and Thodey's first AGM as the new face of Telstra was dominated by angry shareholders and disappointed customers; however, there was also widespread support and sympathy for Thodey in his dealings with the government over the telco's separation.

Just over 850 Telstra shareholders grabbed the once-a-year opportunity to vent frustrations on the telco and during question time honed in on executive remuneration, customer service, and how Telstra was handling negotiations with the government.

The overwhelming attitude towards the government's plan to separate Telstra via legislation currently before the parliament, was that Telstra needed to fight harder to preserve the status quo.

One shareholder who had travelled from Perth said Telstra should let the NBN Co and the government "die on the vine" and urged Livingstone not to vend Telstra's assets into the NBN. "Don't give them any assistance," he said to a small burst of applause. "The government needs Telstra more than Telstra needs the government... They forced us into a poker game with a gun at our head. Telstra should not be bluffed out of a poker game."

Another investor from St Lucia, Queensland, said he felt sorry for Thodey who faced a government that was more concerned about "becoming big" than shareholder value. He asked how Telstra could be "constructive" with a government hell bent on its destruction.

They forced us into a poker game with a gun at our head. Telstra should not be bluffed out of a poker game.

Telstra shareholder

Livingstone defended the strength of Telstra's negotiating style, highlighting that although it was not waging war with the government through the media, it was "just as tough" as Telstra was under Sol Trujillo and her predecessor, Donald McGauchie. "There are a number of different styles that can be tough," she said.

Livingstone hinted at the power that Telstra does have in its negotiations with the government by reminding shareholders that the telco has eight million customers which the government wants transferred to the NBN Co as soon as possible. She said to do this would mean shifting 4000 homes across the NBN Co every day for eight years straight.

Billing problems were also a source of annoyance amongst shareholders. One shareholder griped that he was still receiving phone bills for his dead father, despite requests to cancel the account. Another said she was happy with Telstra's $3.9 billion free cash flow (expected to increase to $6 billion within the financial year), but she was concerned apart of it was from her pocket thanks to billing errors on Telstra's part.

Telstra had organised for customer service representatives to be present at today's meeting. Livingstone several times referred concerned shareholders to address their concerns.

The remuneration of group managing director of Telstra Networks and Services, Michael Rocca, came under the spot light over a substantial pay rise he was awarded last financial year. Livingstone explained that Rocca's rise was in response to the departure of US Greg Winn because Telstra needed someone to complete its $5 billion technology transformation.

The shareholder who was disgusted by Livingstone later returned to the microphone, prefacing his question with the comment he would ask it more nicely this time: "Can you provide a bus from Town Hall (train station) to the Convention Centre?"

Livingstone did not answer the question.

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Talkback 54 comments

    True colours RS -- 04/11/09

    Who would ever have thought such a comment would ever be muttered by a concerned Aussie/TLS shareholder -

    "Telstra should let the NBN Co and the government "die on the vine" and urged Livingstone not to vend Telstra's assets into the NBN. "Don't give them any assistance," he said to a small burst of applause. "The government needs Telstra more than Telstra needs the government... They forced us into a poker game with a gun at our head. Telstra should not be bluffed out of a poker game."

    Fancy porposing to hold Australia back to help their wallets!

    Im shocked....NOT!

    Are you Happy to Pay More? Anonymous -- 04/11/09 (in reply to #320390627)

    RS- So, are you happy to pay more out of your own pocket for an NBN? By the way it still does not have a cost-benefit analysis. If your expectation is that Telstra shareholders will take the hit, while you are salivating for cheaper and faster broadband, then you are a hypocrite.

    Hypocrites are rife RS -- 04/11/09 (in reply to #320390649)

    Anonymous (typical) - If you say there "hasn't been a cost-benefit analysis", but then bluntly claim the NBN "will cost more", doesn't that make you a hypocrite?

    If you assume "Telstra shareholders will take the hit for the NBN", when "nothing has been agreed to", doesn't that also make you a hypocrite.

    If you claim the NBN "will cost me more out of my pocket" but then call me a hypocrite for "salivating over cheaper braodband", doesn't that again make you a hypocrite?

    Infact these make you a very confused and desperate hypocrite.

    they're all hypocrites.... Salami Chujillo -- 04/11/09 (in reply to #320390661)

    full stop.

    Break it up Anonymous -- 05/11/09 (in reply to #320390674)

    The faster Telstra gets broken up the better. Sod the shareholders, they knew this was a possibility as laid out in the prospectus. The rest of us who aren't Telstra shareholders don't care about whether the shareholders are out of pocket. We just want a broadband network that isn't the equivalent to Albania's. By annoucing last week that Telstra was out of synch with broadband market pricing, Thoday as good as admitted that Telstra had been ripping its customers off. No sympathy for Telstra or its shareholders.

    Ripping off yes its true.. AB -- 11/11/09 (in reply to #320390693)

    Yup Telstra has been ripping off its customers for quite a while. They had to subsidise the losses it was incurring because the other carriers dont foot the entire bill for maintaining the network.

    If you have a problem with the current situation you should be bring it up with the ACCC who allowed this to happen while supposedly protecting consumers interests.

    yes ripping off is true Anonymous -- 11/11/09 (in reply to #320391298)

    why should the other carriers foot the bill for maintaining the entire network, when telstra is the main user.

    telstra were given the network before being sold off and have always received income from line rental, but still want the entire network maintained by others too, jeez.

    ACCC Simon -- 12/11/09 (in reply to #320391298)

    Not the ACCC but the Liberal party as they set the rules and created ACCC to adminster those rules. No point shooting the messenger..

    Shareholder Greed Anonymous -- 05/11/09 (in reply to #320390627)

    Yep, typical Telstra shareholders. Let the country rot in the 18th century as long as they get to make a $ out of it.

    I'm a TLS shareholder too and would be more than happy to see my holding take a beating if it means myself and the country will finally get a better network.

    Living in a 12mth old new home that is barely able to get ADSL1 and with my phone and internet dropping out every time it rains let me tell you I don't give a rats about what happens to my shareholding if it means a better network away from the clutches of Telstra.

    So Telstra shareholder's, stop worrying about your greed and worry about what's good for the nation for once!

    Finally some sense Anonymous -- 05/11/09 (in reply to #320390697)

    My goodness, a Telstra shareholder that is talking sense! I actually can't see that share price taking much more of a beating than it already has. Telstra shareholders should not be attacking the government, they should be complaining about the rotten leadership of the revolting Mcgauchie and Sol Trujillo that got them into this situation. As I have said numerous times on this site, you reap what you sew... tough sh*t Telstra and its shareholders

    that's a no brainer......................just sell them now. Anonymous -- 06/11/09 (in reply to #320390697)

    Just sell your Telstra shares now then (if you really do have any). Once you have sold them, you can scream and rant until the cows come home, and you certainly wont have to "give a rats about what happens to your share holding".

    Shareholder Greed Peter Fane -- 12/11/09 (in reply to #320390697)

    Shareholder Greed versus government greed.
    I will side with the shareholder every time. At least their motives are transparent and their method of delivery also transparent.

    re shareholder greed Anonymous -- 12/11/09 (in reply to #320391377)

    and that's because................

    True colours Anonymous -- 12/11/09 (in reply to #320390627)

    RS, all I can say is you sound like a selfish goose!

    Lol... RS -- 12/11/09 (in reply to #320391376)

    Lol...

    It's not Telstra's Fault but it Must Be Done Alan Mallows -- 05/11/09

    If Australia is to stay in step with the rest of the world in reaping the benefits of broadband internet, both in business and pleasure, then something must be done. Regardless of the desires of Telstra shareholders, Australia needs more than Telstra's geographically limited and extraordinarily expensive services for this to happen. We are rapidly slipping into third world land while this argument drags on.

    Yes it must be done.... but Telstra are to blame Glenn -- 05/11/09 (in reply to #320390705)

    I believe Alan has hit on a good point, it has to be done. South Korea went through a similar transformation and the boost to the economy was extremely powerful.

    We ALL want to believe in Telstra, this may never stop, however Telstra continues to give us reasons not to believe, time and time again.

    I ask you this readers, if you beat your neighbouring tribe year and year, then all of a sudden they get more powerful and beat/crush you back..... as an Australian do you whinge about it? I would hope not..... You see Telstra took on a certain approach with the Government for many years, they acted like a petulant child even when they were all grown up.... regrettably Telstra is reaping those rewards.

    A short History of Telstra John Gale -- 05/11/09

    Howard sold Telstra at a premium price because of it's quasi monopoly. This created a large number of supporters for whatever Telstra wanted to do.

    Now it's "commercial" practices have come home to roost - high prices, delay delay delay in implementing high speed broadband & poor customer service.

    Telstra has stuck it to us (the customers), now it is time to stick it to Telstra!!

    No Eye Dear AB -- 11/11/09 (in reply to #320390718)

    Surprising how little idea most of people here have

    Government Greed Anonymous -- 12/11/09 (in reply to #320390718)

    Actually, it's the government that we should be sticking it to, and particularly their advisers who supported the privatisation of an integrated Telstra.

    It is not the Telstra shareholders or the company's fault. But if Telstra service is not up to scratch, then why don't you use "3" or Optus or one of the other carriers? You will find their service no better than Telstra's. I've tried them!

    former government greed Anonymous -- 12/11/09 (in reply to #320391378)

    this government didnt sell an integrated telstra, so why stick it to them, theyre trying to fix the stuff up.

    Shareholder Greed, or not? Anonymous -- 05/11/09

    As a Telstra shareholder, I also want cheaper prices and better services. I know better services will come from more investment, but how can I get cheaper prices? Investment means dollars, so someone has to pay for it, either taxpayers or private companies. In the latter case, they will expect a return on their investments. But there is another way. Just confiscate Telstra's network, or convince Telstra to handover it, then we can have cheaper prices, but not necessarily better services. The question is, is this ethical? The answer I suppose will depend on the level of your integrity.

    OK, you guys had your say BUT... Vasso Massonic -- 06/11/09

    please view the archived webcast of Telstra's AGM, if you have not already viewed.

    It's not easy to operate a network whilst hindered by the whim of half baked politicians of both persuasion and their regulators, so remember what you wish for. Better the devil you know than the next one you meet and remember in particular, David Thodey's pearls of wisdom...."Telstra has an incredible proud heritage going back to 1901 of keeping Australians connected to each other and the wider world, we do it well. When Alexander Graham Bell, who invented the telephone in 1876, visited Australia in 1910 many of the technicians he spoke to were from the PMG Department. They were Telstra people."

    The break up of this historical Icon is beyond belief and will surely brand the Labour Administration 'vandals of the 21st Century, if successful.

    Below, is the link.

    http://www.thomson-webcast.net/au/dispatching/?event_id=5319126a08859b6a56d403bbaed03310&portal_id=69c1dcf4d29abb5352d3b6d505f10bc2

    Don't count chickens early. Sydney Lawrence -- 06/11/09

    To the self promoting, Telstra opposing sham artists that Post above, the only people you fool is yourselves.

    Let us speak with some sanity and maybe throw in a little intelligence. The proposed NBN sounds great but then again so does winning the Lotto. With an investment of up to $43 billion prices wont be cheap and most customers will stay with Telstra.

    Also, of great interest will be the ACCC reaction to the call by Government for the proposed NBN to be a monopoly with no opponents allowed. How could the champion of free competition, the ACCC, allow a NBN monopoly and a ban on opposition.

    As the audience at the recent Telstra AGM showed, the call is for the Telstra Board to reject the Conroy blackmail and fight tooth and nail, using all and every facility available to get a fair go for a great Australian company and prevent a financial disaster for the Australian taxpayer.

    While not wishing to disturb the foolish unattainable dreams of Telstra opponents, I would advise them not to be to deceived by their fantasies because, as realities enforce themselves, and events prove Telstra survives and triumphs and remains Australia's favourite Comms Media Company their remorse could be severe.

    say it again, we haven't heard it before Anonymous -- 06/11/09 (in reply to #320390807)

    one of those accused sham artist posters above, not just you, is a telstra shareholder, syd.

    as usual, everyone is marching in unison left, right, left, except you syd, marching right, left, right.

    and you are right and everyone else is wrong?

    Behaving like chooks with heads cut off Vasso Massonic -- 06/11/09 (in reply to #320390807)

    Sydney, according to yesterday's AFR, page 1 . A row has erupted between Rudd and his Home State over the $1.7 billion Gold Coast rapid transit rail system.

    He is seeking to have a continuing role in the project, including earning a possible return on its investment!!!!!!!.

    Back on the ranch, he is trying to bankrupt Telstra and have a free hand in Telecommunication.

    God help us.

    Spin and Con is not King. Sydney Lawrence -- 06/11/09 (in reply to #320390823)

    Vasso you are correct. The whole deception of Spin and Con is about to start to unravel.

    Stand back Australians, hold onto your hats and expect a great show.

    .............................like chooks with heads cut off Anonymous -- 06/11/09 (in reply to #320390838)

    Rudd is a latent magalomaniac, and will do absolutely anything and whatever it takes, to stay in power. I hate to think what is in store, when election time finally looms near.

    Even the chooks need to worry! Vasso Massonic -- 06/11/09 (in reply to #320390848)

    When the wind of change blew me out of Africa I was lucky to land in the Australian paradise.

    We enjoyed paradise except for the temporary set back of the Whitlam years but worry about what's in store with the amateur at the herlm.

    Correction Vasso Massonic -- 06/11/09 (in reply to #320390853)

    helm

    ............the chooks need to worry Anonymous -- 06/11/09 (in reply to #320390853)

    I just cannot understand why the greater population, continue to fuel Rudds ego.

    re........the chooks Anonymous -- 06/11/09 (in reply to #320390874)

    i cannot understand why you telstra shareholders can't accept responsibility for your foolishnes in buying telstra shares and stfu.

    Poor chooks Vasso Massonic -- 06/11/09 (in reply to #320390875)

    The value of Telstra shares is not important. The healthy state of our Telecommunications to serve our island continent IS.

    yes Anonymous -- 06/11/09 (in reply to #320390886)

    so why all the shareholder kerfuffle over these accused seized assets and talk of blackmail.

    you just said and i agree, the healthy state of our communications is more important.

    so if separation, seizure or whatever is needed then you fully support it, that's what you just said right?

    For the greater good Anonymous -- 07/11/09 (in reply to #320390888)

    Would all those who believe that seizing assets 'for the good of the community' is an acceptable form of behaviour please post your home addresses. I have just come up with a brilliant way of helping Australia's homeless people. Alternatively, if you are not prepared to follow your own advice, pull your collective heads in!

    Whether separation is good or bad for Telstra is irrelevant. It is the shareholders' decision to make and if not splitting turns out to be a mistake, it is the shareholders' and management's mistake to make and no one else's. I do note, however, that in spite of Optus being a vertically integrated company, it has not chosen the separation path for itself.

    Many seem to be full of advice they do wish to follow themselves. Hypocrites.

    .....For the greater good Anonymous -- 07/11/09 (in reply to #320390901)

    Makes good sense to me. But I am a "greedy Telstra shareholder", so that opinion does not count. You can now sit back and wait for the bellowing hypocrites to have there say on your comment.

    @For the greater good RS -- 07/11/09 (in reply to #320390907)

    The question of separation and seizure above, was obviously a hypothetical question from anon, asking of one telstra shareholder, who said this -

    ..."The value of Telstra shares is not important. the healthy state of our Telecommunications to serve our island continent IS"...

    Since reading, I have also been awaiting Vasso's reply. So speaking of hypocrites, after being put into such a "no win situation" (if Vasso agrees, all of his vast, previous comments mean absolutely nought. If he disagrees he's proven a liar, above).

    Typically though, in true Telstra fashion, when the going gets tough the puppets disappear or send a reply refusing to correspomd further.

    Both Sydney and Vasso have already done this with me (but once their embarrassment all died down they started again, lol) when I previously answered their questions and then asked them a few simple return questions, which they simply couldn't answer without incriminating themselves!

    So while we haven't heard back from Vasso, i'm sure we all know.

    But on a brighter noter, good for you new anon, at least you are becoming healthier by admiitting that you do have greed affliction.That's the first step.

    Now simply sell the TLS shares and you will be cured!

    Maybe I shoud start up TLS (Telstra Losers) anonymous. You know, hi my name is (enter greedy TLS puppets name) and I'm an alco (oops) a greedy, selfish, thoughtless b*stard!

    For the greater good Vasso Massonic -- 07/11/09 (in reply to #320390901)

    You are absolutely right. Stealing the network to satisfy the wishful thinking of a couple laymen, Rudd and conroy, is a recipe for disaster and will do nothing for Australia's telecommunications or our National Interest. In fact, It's a double whammy of Value destruction:

    Telstra's capitalisation $ 39.8 billion + Rudd's Capital expenditure $43 billion = $82. 8 to achieve something we almost already have. It will satisfy the Rudd ego at the expense of corporate share holders and tax payers with not an iota of betterment to Telecommunications.

    On an other kettle of fish - The climate war.

    Climate war gets personal for Rudd

    PHILLIP COOREY AND MARIAN WILKINSON

    November 7, 2009
    .
    KEVIN RUDD has launched a blistering attack on climate change sceptics and deniers in Australia and abroad, accusing them of a systematic campaign to sabotage global talks in Copenhagen and of being contemptuous towards the interests of the world's children.

    An angry Prime Minister lashed out at politicians and commentators around the world, including US congressmen, and labelled his domestic political opponents cowards for repeatedly seeking reasons to delay the emissions trading scheme..... continued Courtesy:

    http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-war-gets-personal-for-rudd-20091106-i24u.html

    This illustrates what we are up against. I will refrain from commenting further

    That's not an answer (as usual) RS -- 07/11/09 (in reply to #320390926)

    " Poor chooks Vasso Massonic -- 06/11/09

    The value of Telstra shares is not important. The healthy state of our Telecommunications to serve our island continent IS" {END}.

    Vasso you are FOS - it is about your shares and only your shares and your limp excuse above (dated 7/11) to cover this statement from yesterday and avoid answering anons question again proves it.

    Stop the charade admit to your motives then we can move on.

    Ooh I almost forgot Vasso... RS -- 07/11/09 (in reply to #320390951)

    From my earlier comment 7/11 -

    "Typically though, in true Telstra fashion, when the going gets tough the puppets disappear or send a reply refusing to correspomd further....Both Sydney and Vasso have already done this with me..." {END}

    Oh look! Following this comment ...

    Vasso 7/11 ..."I will refrain from commenting further"...{END}

    Gee what a surprise, who would ever have thunk [sic] it?

    Bad sign when you start talking to yourself Vasso Massonic -- 08/11/09 (in reply to #320390994)

    Do something useful, like.....

    Dear Senator Barnaby Joyce,

    Congratulations. You seen to be scoring on Rudd’s ETS folly. Here is what he had to say about you.

    †the fearmonger in chief†Courtesy:

    http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-war-gets-personal-for-rudd-20091106-i24u.html

    As regards to Telstra, I concur with your view that, “The Telstra issue is due to come before the Senate soon and although I believe it should be separated, it’s how it’s done that is the real issue. Any restructure should ensure that Telstra is obliged to commit itself to the provision of reasonable access to telecommunications services on an equitable basis for all Australians including those of us who live and work in rural and regional Australia.â€, but I am at a complete loss to understand how on earth will the breaking up of Telstra help the company to provide the telecommunications you wrote about. Moreover, In a report by Glenda Korporaal and Rebecca Urban, Australian IT dated October 31, 2009 Catherine Livingstone is reported to have said “We were disappointed in the legislation in the sense that we don’t see a need for it because Telstra, including myself and David Thodey, have been constructively engaged in discussions,†she says. “We have said we support the government’s NBN vision. That vision would effectively involve the structural separation of Telstra because the NBN company would become the wholesaler for the whole industry. But we don’t think legislation is necessary. It is much better that we go through these constructive discussions and achieve a mutually beneficial outcome.â€

    Nota Bena: “We have said we support the government’s NBN vision. That vision would effectively involve the structural separation of Telstra because the NBN company would become the wholesaler for the whole industry.†This proves, without a shadow of doubt, that the legislation is a sham to help NBN Co intimidate Telstra to cede its Assets below the reasonable value as prescribed by our constitution and if the Senate pass the bogus legislation it will do a disservice to the company, its employees, customers, shareholders, retirement benefits funds, managed funds and our system of government.

    Kind Regards

    Vasso Massonic

    A less garbled copy Vasso Massonic -- 08/11/09 (in reply to #320391041)

    Dear Senator Barnaby Joyce,

    Congratulations. You seen to be scoring on Rudd's ETS folly. Here is what he had to say about you.

    " the fearmonger in chief" Courtesy:

    http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-war-gets-personal-for-rudd-20091106-i24u.html

    As regards to Telstra, I concur with your view that, "The Telstra issue is due to come before the Senate soon and although I believe it should be separated, it’s how it’s done that is the real issue. Any restructure should ensure that Telstra is obliged to commit itself to the provision of reasonable access to telecommunications services on an equitable basis for all Australians including those of us who live and work in rural and regional Australia.", but I am at a complete loss to understand how on earth will the breaking up of Telstra help the company to provide the telecommunications you wrote about. Moreover, In a report by Glenda Korporaal and Rebecca Urban, Australian IT dated October 31, 2009 Catherine Livingstone is reported to have said "We were disappointed in the legislation in the sense that we don't see a need for it because Telstra, including myself and David Thodey, have been constructively engaged in discussions," she says. "We have said we support the government's NBN vision. That vision would effectively involve the structural separation of Telstra because the NBN company would become the wholesaler for the whole industry. But we don't think legislation is necessary. It is much better that we go through these constructive discussions and achieve a mutually beneficial outcome."

    Nota Bena: "We have said we support the government's NBN vision. That vision would effectively involve the structural separation of Telstra because the NBN company would become the wholesaler for the whole industry." This proves, without a shadow of doubt, that the legislation is a sham to help NBN Co intimidate Telstra to cede its Assets below the reasonable value as prescribed by our constitution and if the Senate pass the bogus legislation it will do a disservice to the company, its employees, customers, shareholders, retirement benefits funds, managed funds and our system of government.

    Kind Regards

    Vasso Massonic

    Greedy? Hell yes AB -- 11/11/09 (in reply to #320390951)

    I'm a greedy telstra shareholder.

    I invested my money why shouldn't I get something back?

    Welcome AB RS -- 11/11/09 (in reply to #320391301)

    If you aren't simply being facetious (one can only take your comment on face value) welcome AB, self confessed greedy TLS shareholder.

    What you just admitted to, is simply what we have been trying to get a few other "TLS shareholders/posters" who unsuccessfully hide similar motives and claim to be anything but, to do!

    I now say to these people; be honest and have the decency to tell us upfront, as AB just did.

    Others will then respect your honesty and may take your comments more seriously, knowing you aren't lying about your agenda and whatever else!

    So good luck with the shares AB, I hope they do well for you and you get that return you seek. However, again unlike the others, I hope you'll also be big enough to take it on the chin, if you don't!

    Dusgusting Anonymous -- 12/11/09 (in reply to #320390853)

    What a shame the winds of change landed you and your ilk in Auatralia.You deserted Africa in it's time of need and no doubt stripped your assets out of the country as well. Couldn't handle equality with other humans? No wander you are so upset that Telstra are about to lose their "apartheid"!

    No more NWAT Anonymous -- 09/11/09

    Vasso and Sydney!

    Who would have thought that after all the tripe you wheelbarrowed around on Now We Are Talking (the Telstra blog site) you would be here, wheelbarrowing the same tripe, somewhere else.

    You are both shareholders and nothing more. There is only one good outcome for you both, and that outcome IS NOT in the best interest of anyone but yourselves.

    You can talk drivel all day long, but what it comes down to is the fact that you are just sour. You bought the shares, and read the prospectus, and now that things are coming to pass, you are just crying and whinging and stomping your feet. Good luck with that.

    While you keep doing that im going to enjoy some world class broadband, which currently isnt offered by telstra, but if it was, im sure it would be $200 or more, but thats not based on any figures, just my big mouth.

    Isnt that how much you guys said the NBN connections were going to cost without evidence? Hahaha

    Good work Conroy! Give it to Telstra like they gave it to us! Take their assets and subsciber base and then give them a number to call where they just get sent in circles without an real solution only to be hung up on, and then they would know what they have put most Aussies through!

    Suggestion Qwame -- 12/11/09 (in reply to #320391138)

    Send the racists back where they came from! We don't need their kind in our great country

    re Suggestion from Qame............. Anonymous -- 13/11/09 (in reply to #320391390)

    So Qwame, now it is racism you wish to dish out as a reason to comment against the Telstra shareholders. Fair dinkum, what more brilliant suggestions can we expect, from you bunch of morons.

    Aussies are not easily fooled. Sydney Lawrence -- 14/11/09 (in reply to #320391491)

    Anonymous the "bunch of morons" you speak of don't tell us that their only desire is to damage Telstra (split) for the advantage of Telstra opponents and themselves. Devious, dangerous and detestable people.

    i see Anonymous -- 14/11/09 (in reply to #320391605)

    devious, dangerous and detestable people.

    they must be telstra shareholders?

    i see Anonymous -- 17/11/09 (in reply to #320391610)

    This serial goose, continues with his ridiculous idiotic commentary. They certainly walk among us.

    ...................Aussies are not easily fooled. Anonymous -- 15/11/09 (in reply to #320391605)

    Not too hard to realize Syd, that a stupid and unintelligent response from the ZdNet serial idiot, would immediately follow your comment. These morons just cannot help themselves.

    welcome Anonymous -- 15/11/09 (in reply to #320391658)

    yes welcome zdnet serial idiot. hows those serial idiot telstra shares going, ha

    stupid suggestion. Anonymous -- 15/11/09 (in reply to #320391390)

    Foolish comments like that, certainly do not come from people that made this country great.

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