Victorian businesses sing the ADSL blues

Even “die hard” Telstra business customers have had enough of more than a week’s worth of ADSL woes in Victoria, which has seen the delivery of an emaciated service, including a seven-hour outage, the shock waves from which are still being felt.

Victorian users have been hounded by ADSL hang-ups since last Friday, when the first outages of 40 minutes and 30 minutes hit home. Monday of this week saw a 50-minute outage and a 25-minute outage and intermittent services continued on Tuesday. On Wednesday, a further outage commenced at 3pm, taking 70 percent of Victorian users off air, and lasted up to seven hours for some. The telco giant’s overzealous announcement yesterday that services had been fully restored was retracted when problems were found to be continuing for an unknown number of users.

Victoria-based software developer Thompson Data Corporation said business had been “severely impacted” by the week’s continuing blackouts. The company distributes software products to clients electronically, does most of its banking online and is constantly booking flights for staff travelling interstate over the Internet.

“We’re one of those die-hard supporters of Telstra but it gets to the point where you’re sick of it,” Thompson Data Corp’s technical support manager Geoff Craig told ZDNet Australia.

According to Craig, the company has an internal ADSL business plan which consists of two 1.5MG lines, courtesy of Telstra. “Both have been down all week and some of last week,” Craig said, adding that despite Telstra’s claims that Wednesday’s blackout began at 3pm, the business hadn’t had ADSL for most of the day. “We’re very disappointed with it,” he said.

A BigPond Direct ISDN line into the company’s main office was still running, however, but was proving to be a much more expensive way of doing business. “It’s much more expensive and there’s no DNS resolution out of Australia,” Craig said, explaining that employees were having difficulty surfing international sites.

“It gets to the point where you maybe look at going somewhere else,” he said.

Victoria’s Lending Technology Services, a software applications provider and technical advisor to companies that don’t have that expertise in-house, has also suffered the repercussions of Telstra’s dodgy ADSL service.

Chief technology officer Charles Meo said ADSL has been down every day this week for at an least an hour, not to mention the seven-hour outage of Wednesday. “It’s absolutely shocking,” he said. “For me personally, I’ve spent a lot of time and effort persuading customers to go with ADSL and it’s all blown up in my face.”

“We deal with a lot of businesses who don’t have the kind of margins where they can just afford to laugh off a network outage,” Meo added. “People's businesses, including the one I work for, are on the line here, but their [Telstra’s] standard tactic seems to be ignore everyone's complaints.”

Meo said the company would be falling back to ISDN. “It’s the only safe bet,” he said, although he admitted it was a much more expensive alternative.

Telstra claims the fault lies in a software problem and denies the service intermittence at the week’s start is related to the problems that commenced Wednesday.

The telco heavyweight's standard response to questions over compensation is that it looks at claims on a case-by-case basis.

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  1. http://www.zdnet.com.au/talkback?PROCESS=show&ID=20008141&AT=2000024993-20263134 > Did Telstra do a Microsoft? I just voted "No" to the question "Does Telstra's BigPond Internet service p Anonymous -- 25/01/02

    http://www.zdnet.com.au/talkback?PROCESS=show&ID=20008141&AT=2000024993-20263134

    >

    Did Telstra do a Microsoft?

    I just voted "No" to the question

    "Does Telstra's BigPond Internet service provide value for money?"

    To my absolute astonishment the poll showed that 87% think so.

    As this is of course an absurd result, I can not exclude the possibility that Telstra does manipulate opinion polls.

  2. Quick Poll suddenly changed to "Should Telstra compensate its customers for regular service interruptions?" Half a hour ago it was still "Does Telstra's BigPond Internet service provide value for money?" Anonymous -- 25/01/02

    Quick Poll suddenly changed to

    "Should Telstra compensate its customers for regular service interruptions?"

    Half a hour ago it was still
    "Does Telstra's BigPond Internet service provide value for money?"
    With 85% saying yes

    http://www.zdnet.com.au/talkback?PROCESS=show&ID=20008141&AT=2000024993-20263134

    Beginning of cut & paste.
    Comments:
    Did Telstra do a Microsoft?

    I just voted "No" to the question

    "Does Telstra's BigPond Internet service provide value for money?"

    To my absolute astonishment the poll showed that 87% think so.

    As this is of course an absurd result, I can not exclude the possibility that Telstra does manipulate opinion polls.

    End of cut & paste.

    The poll was only up since yesterday and disappeared today instead of the usual one week polling period.

  3. After one month, Telstra finally fixed the "Windsor problem" - able to connect and ping, but no dataflow. Apparently someone assumed that it was the same as the Coffs Harbour problem, and applied whatever fix they used there, with no resulting i Anonymous -- 25/01/02

    After one month, Telstra finally fixed the "Windsor problem" - able to connect and ping, but no dataflow. Apparently someone assumed that it was the same as the Coffs Harbour problem, and applied whatever fix they used there, with no resulting improvement. Eventually they took another look and found the right fix.

  4. T(H)elstra lies in its teeth. Besides the 7 hour outage on Wednesday, it's ADSL service has been off-line every day this week for up to 6 hours. A Computer wholesaler near me has had almost no on-line order system all week. He hasn't begun to estimate the Keith Styles -- 25/01/02

    T(H)elstra lies in its teeth. Besides the 7 hour outage on Wednesday, it's ADSL service has been off-line every day this week for up to 6 hours. A Computer wholesaler near me has had almost no on-line order system all week. He hasn't begun to estimate the lost business due to the lousy
    T(H)elstra ADSL performance.
    If anyone expects to receive a credit from
    T(H)elstra for ANY of these service interruptions, forget it. T(H)elstra has refused all requests for credits, since it soooo generously provided credits last year. For some inexplicable reason, T(H)elstra seems to think those credits last year, lets them off the hook for any further responsibility.

    T(H)elstra's engineering department doesn't give a fig for its customers. It is totally incompetent.It reminds me of Alice in Wonderland at the Mad Hatters Tea Party. Have another cuupa guys. It will fix itself !!!!!! Tweedle Dumb & Tweedle Dee could do a better job.

  5. The results of the voting here are totally unbelievable and obviously....in fact quite obviously , telstra have been manipulating it. No way would anyone who has been keeping an eye on Zdnets coverage of complaints against telstra and stories of Jackie Chan -- 25/01/02

    The results of the voting here are totally unbelievable and obviously....in fact quite obviously , telstra have been manipulating it.

    No way would anyone who has been keeping an eye on Zdnets coverage of complaints against telstra and stories of outages say clients and residential users do not deserve credits or even compensatoin within reasonable boundaries for business.....or even for the blatant lies at their website about how great their adsl is.

  6. Second Telstra Quick Poll taken off line after only five hours. The question of the second Telstra poll was "Should Telstra compensate its customers for regular service interruptions?" and the poll started to Anonymous -- 25/01/02

    Second Telstra Quick Poll taken off line after only five hours.

    The question of the second Telstra poll was

    "Should Telstra compensate its customers for regular service interruptions?"

    and the poll started to show the same absurd results as the first one which was taken off line after only one day instead of the usual seven days for www.zdnet.com.au polls.

    Is it not interesting to see how the comments about Telstra are usually overwhelmingly negative and the on line polls regarding Telstra display the opposite result?

    Is Telstra again misrepresenting?

    For reference see
    http://www.zdnet.com.au/talkback?PROCESS=show&ID=20008159&AT=2000024993-20263147

    Copy & paste...

    Quick Poll suddenly changed to

    "Should Telstra compensate its customers for regular service interruptions?"

    Half a hour ago it was still
    "Does Telstra's BigPond Internet service provide value for money?"
    With 85% saying yes

    http://www.zdnet.com.au/talkback?PROCESS=show&ID=20008141&AT=2000024993-20263134

    Beginning of cut & paste.
    Comments:
    Did Telstra do a Microsoft?

    I just voted "No" to the question

    "Does Telstra's BigPond Internet service provide value for money?"

    To my absolute astonishment the poll showed that 87% think so.

    As this is of course an absurd result, I can not exclude the possibility that Telstra does manipulate opinion polls.

    End of cut & paste.

    The poll was only up since yesterday and disappeared today instead of the usual one week polling period.

  7. Have a redundant link e.g. 56kps modem through another carrier like OzEmail. I have 2 accounts: Zip World and OzEmail. Dialup is slower but it will get you by the hassle of some mammoth ISP with really bad support. This is what happened when ADSL went hay Dwight Walker -- 26/01/02

    Have a redundant link e.g. 56kps modem through another carrier like OzEmail. I have 2 accounts: Zip World and OzEmail. Dialup is slower but it will get you by the hassle of some mammoth ISP with really bad support. This is what happened when ADSL went haywire in Seattle with Covad. People were recommended to use their old dialup again for the interim. You've got to be resourceful. Don't trust the big boys!!

  8. Actually, the outage affected me (and I was assured that I was not alone by the tech support call centre) for more like 50+ hours... It lasted from Wed at around 3pm (although there'd been an earlier outage as well that day) and was not fixed until aroun Anonymous -- 26/01/02

    Actually, the outage affected me (and I was assured that I was not alone by the tech support call centre) for more like 50+ hours... It lasted from Wed at around 3pm (although there'd been an earlier outage as well that day) and was not fixed until around 5pm yesterday (Friday).

    On Thursday I rang the billing call centre and managed to extract a 50% credit off this month's bill, however obviously that doesn't begin to compensate for the disruptions during the past week.

    I think the reality of Telstra's ADSL service at present is that the subscribers are funding an ongoing testing period for a faulty network.

  9. It is high time that the government runs and maintains the telecommunications Infrastructure (lines, exchanges ect..) and cast adrift the privatised side of telstra and let it compete with other operators. My guess is if this happened telstra co Anonymous -- 27/02/02

    It is high time that the government runs and maintains the telecommunications Infrastructure (lines, exchanges ect..) and cast adrift the privatised side of telstra and let it compete with other operators.

    My guess is if this happened telstra could NOT survive!!!

  10. I AM GOING CRAZY WITH TELSTRA'S ADSL.21st February they came and installed it. 22nd February I had to change my user name and password. The user name changed fine, but the password wouldn't change. Then I discovered I couldn't get email at all!! It is Mary Barker -- 12/03/02

    I AM GOING CRAZY WITH TELSTRA'S ADSL.21st February they came and installed it. 22nd February I had to change my user name and password. The user name changed fine, but the password wouldn't change. Then I discovered I couldn't get email at all!! It is now 12th March, and after phone calls nearly everyday, and getting the message, "You have a 'mail authentication issue'" and we can't fix it - but working on it. I am going mad!!!!

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