Users slam Telstra's new broadband prices

Telstra is -teetering dangerously close to retail extortion" according to one BigPond user dissatisfied with the telco behemoth's new broadband pricing plans.

The telco heavyweight announced it's new pricing plans for broadband users last night and ZDNet Australia has been inundated with complaints from users who consider Telstra to be lining its pockets to the detriment of its customers.

The pricing change rides on the back of Telstra's three-gigabyte cap on data download announced in June this year.

-The 'three gigabyte cap' announcement was perhaps the biggest reaction I have ever seen from the broadband community, and deservedly so," webmaster of broadband community Web site Whirlpool, Simon Wright, told ZDNet Australia.

The telco's plan that users incur an 18.9-cent per megabyte additional usage fee between 3GB and 5GB and 17.5c per MB thereafter, means every additional gigabyte for Cable users will cost between AU$175 and AU$189, Wright said, describing the telco giant as -teetering dangerously close to retail extortion... not to mention the sheer hypocracy (how much does it cost Telstra to shuffle one megabyte?)"

Wright was just one of many broadband uses vocal about Telstra's revised pricing, another user interviewed by ZDNet via e-mail had the following to say.

"Although I have never been close to the 3GB limit I think it's not really fair to change the rules from what seemed to be an unrestricted service when I joined. DSL is here now so why slam us users for taking up the technology in the first place...why not throw the doors open and give us the freedom to use it. Like children we will get over the initial excitement of what we can do and settle down to reasonable usage."

Whilst Telstra previously constituted 3GB as acceptable usage, it didn't charge users if they surpassed the limit, spurring one ZDNet reader to question why Telstra didn't simply enforce the Acceptable User Policy (AUP) to kick off the excessive users, and another to question why the telco didn't move to restrict excessive users to e-mail and telstra.com after surpassing the prescribed limit rather than incurring a financial penalty.

Although telecommunications analyst Paul Budde said he agreed with Telstra's move to prevent excessive usage, he said a penalty of this kind -would have been a good option".

-I would say at least 95 percent of users are happy with 3GB," Budde said, adding that those dissatisfied with the limit were a -vocal minority...I believe no more than 2-3 percent."

Whilst Budde supports Telstra's price differentiation for heavy users he expressed concern that users would be locked into pricing as 3GB becomes insufficient, in about three years time, when the pattern of broadband usage changes in Australia. -Telstra will have to come up with better pricing," Budde said. -Telstra must be sensitive to prices in the market."

Telstra spokesperson Stuart Gray told ZDNet Australia that pricing was something always up for review. "Set in stone? These are the pricing plans I don't know how long for, they're constantly under review."

Whilst Telstra refuses to reveal how much data transmission costs, Budde said: -I wouldn't be surprised if the 2-3 percent [of heavy users] are taking up 20-25 percent of that cost".

Telstra maintains that it's not -commercially viable" to have a one price fits all solution and refutes that it's lining its pockets in moving to charge for excess usage, however users remain unconvinced.

-I have both Telstra and Optus, Telstra at home and Optus at my office. The two are so different in every way. Telstra make you pay for additional users, they cap you at 60kps and they have a 3GB limit, while Optus have only the Netstats AUP (which you can do 20GB a month without going over 9.0) and uncapped speed (I have had up to 600kps) and you don't have to pay for additional users. With Optus I can have three computers downloading simultaneously at 150kps+ each while on Telstra I can only get three computer at 60kps. I can't see how Telstra claim it's not commercially viable not to do what Optus does. I think they just want to line their pockets more. The only reason I have Telstra at home is that Optus isn't in my residential area," Andrew Craigie, an active server pages developer, told ZDNet.

Cargie is not the only disgruntled BigPond user who would take his custom elsewhere if he had the choice. John Taylor a managing director based in Brisbane claims he too is stuck with Telstra, whom he says is holding back broadband Internet for Australian consumers.

-Telstra actively promotes high-bandwidth, content rich media whilst punishing customers for using it. When are they going to realise that they have already alienated their next generation of customers, teenagers? I have to use BigPond cable at my address as there are no other suppliers, but rest assured Telstra the day will come when I move my custom elsewhere as I have already done with my business."

Talkback 26 comments

    This is disgusting, particular ...Anonymous -- 02/11/01

    This is disgusting, particularly because there is no choice in the matter. Where a monopoly exists there needs to be pricing regulation and telstra seem to be able to do as it pleases. I would sign up for Optus in a millisecond but even though I can see the Optus cable from my back garden I live just a bit too far away it cannot be connected. I have been waiting now for over a year for Optus to get its act together and I am sick of paying predatory prices.

    Another issue I have is that the cable modem I have, I own it as I bought it outright with the cable connection. I have found out since that I cannot reconnect this to another cable service as you cannot by just a service without a MODEM. It is these kinds of hidden costs that really suck. I wish the ACCC would tell these companies to play nice.

    bigpond should not have the ri ...Anonymous -- 02/11/01

    bigpond should not have the right to hide its data transmission costs, i wonder how much they a making, it must be a big profit to deny this information.

    3gb is not enough to the normal user, I often watch live feeds off the net which can take about 400 - 500m in less then a few hours,

    now i keep my internet access to a limit, and I don't feel i am getting my moneys worth with the service and plans being provided by telstra.

    where is the ACCC ? maybe a few $$$$$$$$ in there pockets from telstra a keeping them off there backs? we need acton now

    I host web servers in the US b ...Ray Landers -- 03/11/01

    I host web servers in the US because I only pay US$3.5 per gigabyte bandwidth.

    That is about A$7 dollars per gigabyte bandwidth.

    Telstra must be extremely ignorant about the worth of bandwidth.

    They also help to export Australian jobs to the US.
    I live/work in Sydney but host my/my clients sites in the US.

    Bandwidth is cheap however the Telstra monopoly can charge whatever they want, even for cheap bandwidth.

    Telstra loves us - lets see. I ...MALCOLM GADD -- 04/11/01

    Telstra loves us - lets see.

    If Telstra wish to penalise excessive users of their broadband service I can live with that decision, however, if they are sincere about their capping policy and their wish to do the right thing by abiding users they should show a
    genuine LOYALTY BENIFIT.
    I would suggest-
    1) Credit/carry over the balance of any months usage where a user is under the cap eg. allow 36 gig per annun not 3g per month
    2) Credit the user where there is reduced service or outages for the period of such interuptions.

    As a home user I have used 4500mb in 4 months and with the interuptions to date, at years end Telstra would owe me money.

    After $259 installation fee and $89 per month charges (Freedom Deluxe PLan) 512/128, I download at an average 45-55kps is this correct?

    Attention Ms Rachel Lebihan
    I have read your recent article concerning this topic and suggest you approach Telstra and see how they reply to these suggestions, I think it would make interesting reading.

    Telstra luv ya, BUT!
    Come on competition.

    Greedy Buggers... I signed up ...Anonymous -- 04/11/01

    Greedy Buggers...
    I signed up approx 2 weeks before Telstra decided to change their "Unlimited" policy that I signed for. Being informed that they decided to change their minds and then cap the download limit to "3GB" per month was disgraceful. The amount of problems we have all had with ADSL since coming onto the market is unbelievable. The download spedds are average 30-40kps on the Freedom plan, and now Telstra wants to charge if you go over the limit is "not on" I am one of the customers who had to go with Telstra due to no Optus in my apartment block. Given all the good options and non restrictions that Optus has, I would let Telstra go immediately, and join Optus for a service that I originally wanted - "unlimited downloads". The packages offered by this carrier are superior and inc cable TV, cheaper. Come on other Broadband suppliers, make your self know..

    Thugs! Telstra are a bunch of ...A Monforte -- 04/11/01

    Thugs! Telstra are a bunch of thugs. I can only get Telstra. Optus has been scared off. It’s the only reason! They all have shares in each other. It doesn’t matter who is on top. They still make money. How can you have competition, when you share in the spoils of your opponent? Why would Optus even want to try and be competitive?

    The Optus line is 5 meters away from me. I can see it on the pole, in front of the units. But they won’t deliver.

    I’m trapped. They trap us in this situation. My only choice is Telstra.

    I don’t go over 3GB. I don’t believe I have. But then again, I wouldn’t know. I couldn’t get e-mail or check on the web for the first month of the connection. I had to get Micro$oft and pay them for what I already knew. Telstra know F%$^-all about what they lead you to believe your going to get. The industry, there clients or what service is all about. I bet that they have never even heard of the word service. There full of sales people (the kind that you would not want to meet anywhere alone). They promise the World. And hand you a map (after you sign of course).

    You want true competition?
    Don’t allow them to share in each others profits. The only way to make money? Is to earn it. And not use underhanded means, like this thuggery.

    Telstra. Line your pockets well! And line them quick. For when the opportunity comes to change. You’re gone. I’m counting the days when someone else comes-in. I will change everything to them.

    Telstra do not have a monopoly ...Blair Ryan -- 05/11/01

    Telstra do not have a monopoly, but they do have distinct market advantages with coverage and the product is not one that is "portable", you either live in a broadband area or you don't...

    If they did not have such an advantage in coverage would they still be implementing these prices, I doubt it.. so the Trade Practices Act could be quesetioned..

    On another issue, if they are charging by the MB then the Trade Measurement Act should really come into play with requirements for accuracy and timeliness..

    If you want to do something, see http://whirlpool.net.au or http://www.ozquake.com/BPA

    The only reasonable response may be to spank Ziggies bottom line..

    I install ADSL for Telstra up ...Anonymous -- 05/11/01

    I install ADSL for Telstra up untill last month when telstra cancell my contract. I would do 4 to 6 installation a day. i would always have problems, with mail servers beening the biggest problem. It would seen that i could send but not receiving mail then i would go to the next job and i could receive mail and not send it. I would have to make up a story to the customer, other wise i would spend all day there trying to get it working. I would not Telstra ADSl in my place

    I wonder why on earth I even w ...Anonymous -- 06/11/01

    I wonder why on earth I even was so stupid to join Telstra in the first place, if Telstra doesn't have the guts to go compete with Optus, I wonder why was it even invented. Optus at home is way better than Telstra in services, speed and even it is not capped as worse as Telstra.

    I had my aims held up high when the first time I joined; I enjoyed the bandwidth and other factors until I have friends laughing at my poor ISP which is of course Telstra. I thought that even though the speeds are poorer but at least if it is unlimited, it is still good.

    Now, I'm totally annoyed about Telstra. I'm sure that there are 1000 of people like me will quit Telstra and join Optus as soon as it arrives to their area. I'm very sure that soon one day everyone will feel more comfortable going with Optus rather than what lies the remains of dodgy Telstra. The services are purely and utterly poor, it was so poor that A current affairs had a report on the services, the speeds are nowhere compared to Optus at home and now they introduced the 3 gig? Is that something that users would be proud of? Would anyone be happy? Even though iprimus is also putting the limit but the old customers get the benefit of unlimited, what about Telstra?

    Over the pass few months I have heard so many excuses that Telstra has been making with its cable connections. Or otherwise I think that Telstra is so poor and trying to rip the unfortunates off. The cable connections have been really horrible. I haven't heard much of Optus having many problems with their overseas connections, but with Telstra? All these excuses don't turn me on at all, they are just some bad excuse so they can 'hog' the bandwidth. Either the cabling is dodgy or bad excuses.

    One thing that I can laugh about is that it costs the same amount of pricing for a connection to Optus and you get better deals. I'm more thinking towards the fact that we (as unfortunate customers of Telstra) are just buying their big tag and putting on our heads for everyone else in the big wider internet community to see.

    As of writing, Telstra is having another connection problem again and it is yet another stupid excuse whereas Optus is having no problems at all.

    I hope that as soon as Optus at home comes to my area, I will join ASAP without doubt and disconnect Telstra. I will never want to see or hear about Telstra again until they change their pricing and 3 gig dramatically.

    The whole idea of 3 gig is already pathetic, the idea behind it. No wonder why Optus is much more famous and everyone prefers Optus. The rules are simple, if a business cannot compete with other businesses why does this business treat us like some kind of dolls to be played with? If a business cannot compete then that business should go out of the competition instead of torturing the users, hence they (as in Telstra) should have not even think about starting it if they are so poor in which the case is true under my understandings.

    Telstra has the greatest conte ...Ziggidiot -- 07/11/01

    Telstra has the greatest contempt for its users, it is unparalled.

    Does Ziggidiot think we don't know what broadband costs overseas?

    Well, he tells us Australia is a huge country that is why it is so expensive.

    Yeah right, last time I checked the distance from one unit to the next it similiar to that of other countries.

    Furthermore, Ziggidiot will tell us, ... yes but the distance between cities...

    OK, the tough question, do we need to lay one cable for each customer who joins or JUST ONE CABLE for everyone in intercity connection situations (e.g. Sydney to Melbourne)?

    If Ziggidiot does not understand then he should ask the Canadians for help or better get out of the way for people who are competent.

    If microsoft were to do someth ...Anonymous -- 08/11/01

    If microsoft were to do something like this it would be called a what? oh that's right - a MONOPOLY. Wholesale prices and many other factors are very much pointing to a monopoly of the market where optus@home is not available. The ACCC needs to act now against this injustice. I have no choice but telstra for broadband in my area (unless i choose ADSL which is shoddy and unreliable for the time being). And it irritates me very much! Action is needed.

    And when is Optus gonna move over to Perth?? *sigh*

    I Live in an area that cannot ...Anonymous -- 14/11/01

    I Live in an area that cannot give me cable, so I'm stuck with no option but Telstra ADSL, however, as I'm using 56k and my downloads can reach 170 meg a one day/night session, I will not switch to ADSL, as I find they are too pricey, and the 3 gig limit is too little.
    I dont abuse my ISP, but if ADSL was as reliable and not as expensive, I would consider switching.
    At this moment in time, because of the unreliability and expense of the service, I'll stick with 56k

    I have worked for Telstra befo ...Anonymous -- 13/12/01

    I have worked for Telstra before, in another section. I found that at the bottom line all they desire is profits - as with any corporation. However, they have no clue as to how to deliver customer service or service reliability!

    I unfortunately had to have ADSL installed due to the fact that cable was not available where I was - apparently. When I asked a Bigpond consultant, they said it wasn't available. Alas, the idiots didn't know what they were talking about when my neighbour just ordered it instead of talking to the consultants first. It had been available all along, but the database for available areas had not been updated for over 5 or so months. These are the people we are trusting to deliver a service? To top it off, I am on a contract for 18 months, and stuck with them.

    When I saw the new pricing plans, I almost fainted. How much does Telstra care about us, the customers that support them? Obviously not much if they want us to pay them for underusing their service, or better yet if you do use it you can expect your bill to double - or more.

    They used ideas of "streaming content" and "lightning fast downloads" to entice people to broadband internet, and now they are hindering their users from experiencing these things. When are Telstra going to be put in line, I wonder. Hopefully, it will be soon - or perhaps another Telco will miraculously appear and offer COMPETITIVE prices.

    To sum this up, I would like to express my heart-felt opinion of the product and customer service:

    I feel that the customer service is pathetic - in general, the people know only vagues about anything and are in general useless for much or any detailed information about the service.

    I also feel that ADSL is currently so instable, that to pay such a huge sum of money for a service that may not work in the next minute, (when it is supposed to be an "always on" connection) is poor delivery of service.

    When O@H comes to my area or Telco X opens, bye bye Telstra - even if you change your broadband plans, I am gone. One more customer to add to the flood as soon as their is more availability. Good luck Telstra!

    Well i finely get bigpond in p ...Anonymous -- 14/12/01

    Well i finely get bigpond in perth after having foxtell for 5 years aaarrggg and then thay put a cap on it!.
    i have never used more than 5 gigs but now it to
    expencive to go over at all
    dam

    If Tel$tra really want out of ...Anonymous -- 31/01/02

    If Tel$tra really want out of the user market, and just sell wholesale why don't they come out and admit it, then they can sell all their unhappy customers to someone else, and do just what they want, sell to big business. Like many big companies these days deal with the top 100-300 customers and bugger the rest off to someone else.

    Greedy SWINES! What a bunch of ...Anonymous -- 31/01/02

    Greedy SWINES! What a bunch of theives! To hell with all those pompous policy makers at Telstra!
    How greedy can a compny get? It would be hard to do worse than damn Telstra! Can't the government protect us from this kind of extortion?
    If I could get cable from another server then I'd be disconnecting from Telstra right now!
    I'm pissed off to say the least.

    I have been with telstra from ...Anonymous -- 31/01/02

    I have been with telstra from the beginnning they started offering broadband to there users.
    Telstra was only available in my area, so did not look into the optus plans till after when I saw that they offered a full speed connection. Since then after signing up for unlimited plan with cable they have capped it to 3 gig and risen there prices over 30%. It is absolutly disgraceful and they do not care about there customers at all. They only want money!!!!As we all know. I just cant wait for the day either Optus Home or another provider for broadband comes to these peoples areas so they can disconnect from horrible telstra. I have only one thing to say to telstra and that is: If I could redirect the bombing of the twin towers, I know where I would redirect them too LOL.......
    Dissatisfied Users

    I have been with telstra from ...Anonymous -- 31/01/02

    I have been with telstra from the beginnning they started offering broadband to there users.
    Telstra was only available in my area, so did not look into the optus plans till after when I saw that they offered a full speed connection. Since then after signing up for unlimited plan with cable they have capped it to 3 gig and risen there prices over 30%. It is absolutly disgraceful and they do not care about there customers at all. They only want money!!!!As we all know. I just cant wait for the day either Optus Home or another provider for broadband comes to these peoples areas so they can disconnect from horrible telstra. I have only one thing to say to telstra and that is: If I could redirect the bombing of the twin towers, I know where I would redirect them too LOL.......
    Dissatisfied Users

    I currently live in the US and ...Anonymous -- 01/02/02

    I currently live in the US and have been here for 2 years. I have had DSL at 900/220 and cable at 4500/128 and modem at 53/53 from 3 different ISP's. I have NEVER had a cap on how much data I can transfer in a given time period... and yet my ISP's are still around !!!
    I am returning to Australia in a few weeks and I just started looking at broadband connectivity and I am horrified at how badly Telstra is screwing the Australian internet community.

    I will be investigating wireless broadband or Optus cable instead. Even if it is not available I am sure Optus will be happy to have my phone business for modem access.

    I came across what seems to be ...Anonymous -- 01/02/02

    I came across what seems to be an exelent option compared to Telstra.
    After the 3 gig limit was imposed we canceled our account, as our average use was around 6 gig.

    http://www.xis.com.au/adsl.htm

    3gig peak incoming only. (13c/mb excess)
    6gig off-peak incoming only. (8c/mb excess)
    Unlimited outgoing data.

    Includeds an unlimited modem account for when gone over limit/adsl service is down.

    Apparantly available anywhere Telstra has enabled the exchange for ADSL use.

    And the price is only $99 a month, $5 more than telstra's 3 gig plan.

    This plan shoots Telstra's right out of the water, and the service surely can't be any more unreliable than bigpond.
    When you add that you get to keep the adsl modem at the end of your 12 month contract as well....

    I've signed up, 7 days and i'll be back on broadband again.

    I signed up last year for 18 m ...Chinese John -- 01/02/02

    I signed up last year for 18 months and had been online for about 2 months when Telstra brought in the 3gb limit (in breach of contract I thought). However, the most I've ever used is 1.2gb so it was no real worry for me.
    Now, I either pay another $23 a month or stay at the same price and go to 1gb. I'll have to take the latter option and just be more careful at how much porn I look at.
    Lying bastards.

    The claim by Te$ltra that it i ...Keith Hove -- 02/02/02

    The claim by Te$ltra that it is financially unnacceptable to match the services of other companies is completely fabricated. Other companies that offer broadband solutions (whether it be cable or adsl) have on the whole been able to surpass Telstra's inadequit service, and have been well recieved in the broadband community. All one has to do is read a forum on Australian broadband such as Whirlpool.net.au to see peoples reaction. There is a great feeling of discontentment and of unfair treatment. Sure, Telstra offer a period within which you can cancel your contract without penalty, but as your articles have pointed out, many homes and business' cannot access Telstra's competition. As to Telstra's claim that a minority are using excessive amounts of data flow, this may be correct, but 3gb is not enough for most people. Many of my friends and colleagues have expressed similar views i this matter. I am a Software Developement student, undertaking a course in Game Software, and this will severly hamper the ease of which we are able to do our work. Perhaps if Telstra had taken a milder approach, such as capping international traffic, which as I understand it is the major cost of data flow, and leaving local servers and peer2peer free. By local, i mean sites within Australia. This would curtail the activities of this minority, yet would not hamper the activities of the "normal" user.

    I started with Telstra ADSL in ...Anonymous -- 02/02/02

    I started with Telstra ADSL in March 2001 and thought at the time that the pricing for the Freedom Standard plan and Unlimited Download was quite reasonable, bar the service downtime. Then came the 3 Gig limitation, an UNREASONABLE change to my initial contract, now Telstra are about to increase the cost of my contract and decrease the the maximum download I can use per month. I hope Optus comes to my area, because locked into a contract or not it's bye bye Telstra, home phone and all and then I'll pass the word around.

    I cannot express how angry I a ...Anonymous -- 02/02/02

    I cannot express how angry I am. Not only at the price hikes but at how they have been set. I use around 1.5g a month yet no way can I afford the new charges for my current 3gig account. Do I go through the large inconvenience of relocating web and e-mail addresses or do I settle for an insufficient amount of 1gig.

    Telstra expect me to pay virtually the same amount I was paying for 3gig before for 1gig now?

    Get real Telstra... your off with the fairy's!

    We are charged $20.00 a month ...Anonymous -- 13/02/02

    We are charged $20.00 a month extra now, tho we have never come close to the 3gig limit since joining Telstra ADSL. We started out as unlimited for $70.00 per month and now we are capped at 3 gig and charged $94.00 monthy. These limits have been carefully planned to bleed the customer. This is a disgrace and its unaustralian. Yet we have no alternative except back to dialup. A pox on Telstra.

    telstra just sucks. i'm 15yrs ...Anonymous -- 13/03/02

    telstra just sucks. i'm 15yrs old and i was downloading all this mp3z before and now i can't. i can't get Optus@home where i live so i have to live with telstra. i have a 1gig limit per month which is just not enough. hope optus comes to my place soon.

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