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right on cue liberal stooge number 1.
you and your boring forever anti worker pro big business pro liberal comments are most tiresome.
It is a pity that the actu played hardball and did not let the cepu negotiate on behalf of its communication members. The actu rode rough shod over the cepu for their own political interests and we as employees and union members are now worse off thanks to the actu.
Before the anonymous person gets all upset I am a cepu member and I work for Telstra so I do know what I am talking about.
steve if so, post your proof for us all to see, or shut the ---- up.
why should i provide any proof to an person who hides their identity and needs to be rude to make a point
you are providing proof not for me, but for your own credibility and to show you aren't just a lying stooge, steve!
sorry if my calling a spade a spade appears rude, but you are making serious allegations.
but if you can prove your allegations, your comment and this proof may just change people like me's, attitude. Then we all may be a little less apprehensive and rude, towards those who make blind union bashing comments like yours.
but if you are unable to support these allegations, like stooges normally can't, please coninue to hide behind the anonymous and rude excuses, for not supplying.
but to help you, steve - anonymous, bit hypocritical there criticising my anonymity steve, i apologise for my perceived rudeness and my name is simon.
so no more excuses, where's this proof?
You will have to take my word for it.
I am not union bashing.
When contacting the cepu over work and industrial action issues the topic was brought up in conversation and I was told that the cepu was told that representatives of the actu were to not only be at the negotiations but were to front them. Have also been told by those close to the negotiations that this was the case.
In all other ea negotiations over the past 13 years I have been employed at telstra the cepu has been able to negotiate on their own.
I believe that as this was the first major ea with a high profile company since the last election, the actu used it as a test case to try and flex their political muscle. This belief comes from conversations that I have had with those involved in the union and managers at work.
Without naming names due to privacy concerns this is all I can provide.
I have been a telstra employee in NSW for the last 13 years I have been a cepu union member for the same 13 years.
You can call a spade a spade without stooping to gutter language.
As for the anonymous of my last post I was using a mobile and didn't click the display details button. But that is just my word for it!
Maybe you need to provide proof otherwise to what I am stating to up your credibility.
The simple fact is as I have stated above-- for the last 13 years and 3 ea's the cepu was able to negotiate successfully with telstra, so why this time was the actu involved.
Maybe you Simon can shed some light on this?
You are welcome to have the last say. as I have tabled my proof and others can make of it what they will.
To all have a nice day and hope I survive the next redundancy purge at telstra.
steve, the only words in all that which really matters is *i was told*. and *i believe*.
in other words you have no proof, just hearsay, because you were told, by someone, who was told by someone else... so now you believe. not only do you believe but you are willing to forward *someone elses opinion* as being factual, because *you were told*.
don't *believe* everything you are *told*, steve,
Right on cue Lab(u)or stooge. Typical leftard...will not allow an alternative view. Go and crawl back under your rock parasite. I suggest you shut the .....up hypocrite.
It seems the truth really hurts...eh comrade??
sieg heil, again same idiot
If you look at http://yourrightsattelstra.com/?page_id=3 you will find that Under the heading "Who are the Telstra unions" you find that the ACTU has joined into the action. This has never been done in previous EBAs.
As the peak union body I would expect that they would be calling all of the shots including the inclusion of 'side agreements'.
thanks steve.
from your link supplied
'"This year, unions have also been *joined by the ACTU to help get you a better deal*.
"The ACTU is the peak body, representing all unions. *The ACTU has lots of expertise and resources that we have been using to fight for a better deal for you*".
who'd ever want the actu to *join, just to help get the everyday employee, a better deal*? lets believe telstra and their pr propaganda machine instead.
when you are fighting with an extreme company, with extreme policies, lead by extreme managers, sol trujillo being US republican sen mccains right (pun intended) hand man, you need all the troops you can muster, to fight for the little guy.
let me ask, if you were thrown on the scrap heap and treated like sh** by telstra, who would you turn to for support? telstra management? the US republicans? Australian politicians on either side? or the unions?
let's hope you never have to find out. thanks again steve, i do appreciate your reply.
I was in a union until I saw how they supported some of their members. It seem to be all about the union and not about the member. In addition the union cost me several $000 due to their inaction. I am now on a AWA and very glad for it. Who will I turn to for support? Well it won't be the unions as I believe they only support the union hierachy and the lowest paid. It appears as everyone else is just their for the union fees.
thanks for the rhetoric steve of perth. you told us everything except you liberal party membership number.
now that times worlwide aren't so great, we'll see how that wonderful awa of yours, the same awas the *majority of australians opposed and voted the last government out because of*, soon stacks up.
so please keep that selfish, ***k the rest I'm ok attitude going, that's obviously what made australia great, in your eyes.
but when it comes your turn to you realise that you aren't really that special and are just a number and expendable like everyone else, remember your words here, steve and please don't go hypocritically running to the unions crying.
you will have earned everything you got. good luck steve of perth, you may need it.
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Re; "Thodey must enter, in good faith, into a collective bargaining agreement for employees".
It's a pity the ACTU didn't allow the CEPU to 'enter in good faith, into a collective bargaining agreement for employees'.