Union to meet 'good faith' Telstra

The Communications Electrical Plumbing Union (CEPU) will tomorrow meet with Telstra for the first time under the leadership of the telco's new chief executive David Thodey.

"Tomorrow will focus on setting up a timetable for future talks as well as trying to build a framework to bring Telstra and the unions closer to agreement," Ed Husic, national president of Telstra's main union, the Communications, Electrical and Plumbing Union (CEPU) said in an email to journalists today.

The meeting follows Thodey's email to the union last week in which he outlined Telstra's intention to "bargain in good faith" with it, marking a radical departure from the telco's approach under former chief Sol Trujillo.

Husic's response to Telstra's acceptance of the union's request to meet with it was today more upbeat than last week. "It's positive. It's welcomed. It's a first step," he said today.

Previously, Husic had said that Thodey's email amounted to Telstra having "basically flicked us a letter, stating that from 1 July they will follow the law".

Tomorrow's meeting is unlikely to address any actual changes to members' current employment contracts with Telstra, according to Husic.

"The meeting tomorrow won't necessarily involve formal negotiating — though we are keen to resolve outstanding matters on the Enterprise Agreement and secure agreement as quickly as possible," he said.

Thodey had indicated in his email that formal negotiations on Enterprise Agreements would commence by early July, following the commencement of Labor's new Workplace Relations laws. Telstra spokespeople did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

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Talkback 69 comments

    2nd time lucky steve -- 04/06/09

    Hopefully this time CEPU ditches the ACTU and the side agreements then there might be a chance for good faith bargaining.

    awaken from hibernation steve - liberal stooge Anonymous -- 04/06/09 (in reply to #320141149)

    oh steve (or is that tony) please dispense of the broken record crap. blah, blah, blah.

    the unions will take the exact same postion they have always had back to the table, only this time, sol bush, wont be there to ***k it all up.

    face it, like the nbn, telstra have backed down and are now looking to save a tiny credibility. it has nothing to do with the actu.

    re ACTU steve -- 05/06/09 (in reply to #320141152)

    If it is nothing to do with the ACTU then why were they involved in the last negotiations. I cannot recall them ever been involved in negotiations before.

    @re actu Anonymous -- 05/06/09 (in reply to #320141224)

    broken record steve, here we go again. do you just copy/paste from thread to thread? got an actual fresh idea? no, still clinging to little johnny's memory.

    one would assume that the actu will be involved at the request of any union, just as the business council or chambers of commerce will involve themselves if requested by businesses, for their advice and input.

    its know as negotiations and you want as many knowledgable people on your side as you can get, especially when dealing with the likes of sol.

    perhaps thodey is more of a humanitarian and will embrace his employees rather than alienate them. then together telstra and employees can move telstra forward.

    negotiation Cebal -- 04/06/09

    In the current economic climate, good luck on getting what they were offered last time. I think they'll be lucky to see half, should have taken it the first time round.

    awa Anonymous -- 04/06/09 (in reply to #320141171)

    go sign your own awa and see how you go?

    Why Steve -- 05/06/09

    If they are getting together to talk why has the union called a 4 hr stoppage today ? This is not showing good faith on the unions part. Glad I am not a part of the union anymore.

    umm steve Anonymous -- 05/06/09 (in reply to #320141215)

    It's standard practice to have a stop work meeting to end industrial action.

    Really Steve -- 05/06/09 (in reply to #320141216)

    Sounds like an excuse to get an early start to the long weekend. Yet again bad timimg on the unions part. The amazing thing is most people at work who are union members are not supporting the strike, guess that goes to show how out of touch this union is with its members.

    fos steve... reeeaaallly fos Anonymous -- 05/06/09 (in reply to #320141223)

    prove they aren't supporting it? you are fos.

    enough said Steve -- 05/06/09 (in reply to #320141239)

    Hook Line and Sinker oh it is fun to bait you fools

    fool Anonymous -- 05/06/09 (in reply to #320141251)

    likewise

    hello window licker Anonymous -- 06/06/09 (in reply to #320141461)

    its like watching a dog chase its own tail, chatting with morons like you. you really have no idea do you?

    but keep trying, we all make exceptions for *special* people like you, window licker

    @ why Anonymous -- 05/06/09 (in reply to #320141215)

    i'm sure the union is glad you aren't a part either. there's no room for disgraceful selfishness, like yours.

    how's those telstra shares going? picked up a bit but still, woeful. :-(

    Not a part of the union Anonymous -- 07/06/09 (in reply to #320141215)

    I agree with you as an employee and not a union member we still get the benefits of the ea and we don't have to pay union fees so we win both ways,

    Obviously and thank god! Simon -- 07/06/09 (in reply to #320141679)

    I'm sure you are also the kind who gets into a drinks round at the local, with people who make much less than you. You also make sure you are last to buy. But when its your turn, you skulk off, like a little b**ch, without shouting, don't you?

    What a guy, typical Liberal party member.

    Let's hope davoe -- 05/06/09

    Let's hope that one of the outcomes of talks is to end AWAs and fraudulent ECAs - for all that want to get out of them.

    Re. Lets Hope Anonymous -- 05/06/09 (in reply to #320141217)

    Sorry to disssapoint davoe, but my AWA is a legal employment instrument and I have and continue to do very well on it thank you. I do not need a half witted union thug to tell me how to live my life. Just shows how out of touch the union movement is and they simply do not have the capacity to move ahead with the times. For a movement that represents a minority, the atcu certailny wants an unrealistic degree of influence on peoples daily lives.

    @re lets hope...we believe you Anonymous -- 05/06/09 (in reply to #320141233)

    yes, yes, yes liberal staffer, we have heard the same bull**** before.

    that's why rudd was swept to power, because people like you are so well off on these wonderful awa's - *not*.

    you lost the election, get over it. the nation again has decency, compassion and a soul.

    Labor stooge Numero Uno Anonymous -- 05/06/09 (in reply to #320141235)

    Swept into power....yeah right, on the back of green preferences.

    So now you are saying that anyone that takes responsibility for themselves, careers and thier life has no compassion or soul.

    Well, I've heard it all now comrade.

    Why did comrade Julia retain most of workchoices in your new unFair Work act??

    liberal stooges/goon steals my lines again. Anonymous -- 05/06/09 (in reply to #320141243)

    my we are desperate now goon

    preferences, ha, that's the way the electoral process actually works. don't you know anything but your own bank account. now i have heard it all adolf.

    so heres some sweet info for you, get the tissues!

    http://www.abc.net.au/elections/federal/2007/results/

    and no i am not saying anything about responsibility. what i am saying a selfish person like you, who would knife his colleagues without blinking an eyelid, for a salary increase, has no compassion or soul.

    good luck in negotiating your next awa, hanibal

    Labour stooge Anonymous -- 05/06/09 (in reply to #320141246)

    Wrong again...not even a good try comrade.

    The only people I've witnessed that behave the way you decribe are Labor politicians and union officials.

    Unoin huff 'n puff has no meaning anymore matey, people see right through it. Get over it .

    stooge has bitten deep little worm Anonymous -- 06/06/09 (in reply to #320141247)

    oh, i laugh at you little liberal worm. the fact that i called you a liberal stooge has really bitten deep, as you now call me a labour, written in the queens english, stooge, lol.

    you will rue the day when your job is sent offshore and there's nowhere to turn because your chums at liberal hq don't give a ***k. all they want is $$$$$ and you realise that you are expandable.

    only then will you crawl to the unions for assistance, like the little worm you are, begging for help.

    the only people i've witnessed that behave like you are mugabe, adolf, mussolini, howard and menzies.

    your greed and selfishness days are over little worm and have made way for rudd and a new social conscience.

    never mind, you can vote again next year and lose again, little worm.

    @stooge has bitten deep little worm steve -- 06/06/09 (in reply to #320141470)

    My my. You are an angry person. Just throw insults after insults. Where you the bully at school or the little boy in the corner that was always picked on. I suspect you were the bully.

    My experience with unions is unfortunately negative. They seem to look after themself first and the members second and once the member loses him job then forget about any support until you have a new job.

    If you are new style image of a union member then I am glad I resigned some time ago.

    If you are looking at rudd and co as you saviour then you must be misguided as gillard's new laws has retained most of workchoices. After all that campaigning you must be angry.

    sounds like, but cant be Anonymous -- 07/06/09 (in reply to #320141535)

    looks like you have been reading or on the receiving end from jason in the past. surely you can't be him because i'm pretty sure he's not a supremist who believes in different classes of people and he never said he was superior as you believe you are. but my you do seem to use a lot of his analogies, stooge.

    Ha ha ha! Anonymous -- 08/06/09 (in reply to #320141470)

    I got a real good idea for you. Stop trying to be a labour stoogy and get a REAL job.

    Ha ha, how easy to fix your issues eh?

    Just get a job and stop trying to push your pathetic commo propaganda onto anyone that has a different view from you.

    I wonder how much the actu is paying you to monitor this blog and peddle you bulls*&^%t?

    Oh...and please do not worry about me, you see, the unions would be the LAST people I would go anywhere near if I became unemployed.

    Guess what, I can think for myself and take responsibility for myself....and don't expect anyone else to be responsible for myself. Try it one day...I promise, it doesn't hurt.

    little worm. Anonymous -- 08/06/09 (in reply to #320142064)

    haha indeed, get a real job supplied by mummy and daddy, like you.

    little liberal worm, you have had mummy and daddy do everything for you from 1 to probably 35 and have never had to face consequences of your own. yet you point the finger.

    i'm sure you will be in the sequel of step brothers with will ferrell and john c reilly, as the 3rd little boy looked after by mummy and daddy.

    oh... and i'm not worried about you because you will always have mummy and daddy to rely on even when you are made redundant. no you can't think for yourself and it shows.

    try standing on YOUR two feet one day, even once and see how you go. my bet is you'll fall flat on your face and go running to guess who, as usual.

    Hey Stooge Rex Alfie Lee -- 09/06/09 (in reply to #320141243)

    "On the back of green preferences" must surely be just the tinciest bit scary for those Liberal mealy-mouths because as far as I can tell, most Green voters, me included would far prefer Labor to you or fairness above all. Basically this means that if the current environmental conditions remain as they are and which they will, the Greens will continue to increase their support and therefore you haven't got a hope in hell of ever getting back into power. Eventually the tide will turn & the two fighting parties will be the Greens and Labor and you mealy-mouths will be on the rock-solid ground where you belong, underneath.

    Scary for you huh?

    @Greeny Anonymous -- 09/06/09 (in reply to #320142191)

    You bet it's scary. BTW, I'd rather chew my left arm off than vote for Greens, or even admit it if I was a green voter.

    You mentioned mealy-mouth....Surely when that term is used, KRudd immediately comes to mind. The most cringeworthy PM since Whitlam. Mealy-mouth = KRudd.

    My advice to you, my precious little leftard, is keep dreaming because the average punter is waking up to labor lies, and the loony green extremism.

    A little scary for you huh??

    Bye for now Nymby.

    liberal voter, haha Anonymous -- 09/06/09 (in reply to #320142248)

    but you'll admit to voting liberal, haha.

    the average punter is waking all right, that's why howard got the boot, der.

    gee look labor in UK, labor in Aus, democrats in the US and check our states, not too many of your money hungry pigs in government, hey?

    in the near future we'll be a republic too and you'll even lose the queen.

    bye for now looooser!

    @liberal voter steve -- 10/06/09 (in reply to #320142372)

    I think you better start looking at the voting in the EU. There is movement away from the left

    Just for interset sake Anonymous -- 05/06/09

    ACTION ALERT
    National four hour stoppage today 5 June 2009
    Overtime / Recall Bans in place from 5 June - 8 June 2009 (inclusive)

    CEPU members across Australia are directed to engage in National Protected Industrial Action today, Friday 5 June 2009.

    Members are directed to stop work four hours prior to the end of your shift today (eg. If your normal shift finishes at 5pm, stop work at 1pm).

    Long weekend overtime and recall bans also apply from 12:01am on Friday 5 June and will remain in force until 11:59pm on Monday 8 June 2009.

    ALL MEMBERS ARE ADVISED NOT TO ADVISE YOUR MANAGER OR TEAM LEADER OF YOUR INTENTIONS TO ENGAGE IN PROTECTED INDUSTRIAL ACTION. YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED UNDER ANY LAW TO DO SO AND THE CEPU STRONGLY ADVISES THAT YOU DO NOT.

    Members should always note the following important points:

    ONLY CEPU MEMBERS can take part in the action above - if you want to take action and be protected, you must join the Union (click here to join online now)
    ONLY CEPU MEMBERS EMPLOYED UNDER THE EA or on EXPIRED AWA's can participate in the action
    ONLY THE ACTION NOTIFIED in the places listed in the notices can be taken - no other action can be taken by anyone other than those working within the workplaces listed in the notices
    EMERGENCY/LIFE AND LIMB JOBS should always be carried out. Call the Union if you are unsure about the nature of the job assigned to you
    CONTACT THE UNION IMMEDIATELY IF any manager threatens to injure your employment in any way for taking protected industrial action.
    The CEPU thanks members for standing together and your continued support of your Union and the campaign for a fair and equitable, Union negotiated EBA by engaging in protected industrial action today.

    If you require any further information, please contact Branch Assistant Secretary Steve Dodd or Branch Organiser Shane Murphy on (02) 9893 7822.

    Yours in Unity,

    JIM METCHER
    BRANCH SECRETARY.

    Just for interset sake Anonymous -- 05/06/09 (in reply to #320141249)

    Bloody hell.....who would want to be a union member.

    ! Anonymous -- 05/06/09 (in reply to #320141256)

    scabby, selfish, telstra shareholder like you, wouldn't?

    @! steve -- 05/06/09 (in reply to #320141282)

    Is this the unions responce to Telstra's letter about good faith bargaining?

    Just for interset sake Anonymous -- 05/06/09 (in reply to #320141256)

    Anyone who is a free thinker and doesn't mind success wouldn't.

    i'm ok Anonymous -- 05/06/09 (in reply to #320141298)

    and walk over their own granny to do it.

    say hi to granny for me *successful entrepeneur*.

    Your not OK Anonymous -- 08/06/09 (in reply to #320141305)

    Sad sad individual.

    Success would not be allowed in your world would it? Too bad for anyone that wants to make sacrifices and better their lot in life, you will be labelled as having no heart or soul.

    Become a parasite and bludge off the community, you then become a poor down-trodden individual that needs help.

    Leftards are soooo hypocritical.

    Time to remove those chips on the shoulders comrade.

    super guy, in his own mind. Anonymous -- 08/06/09 (in reply to #320142061)

    good luck super guy.

    you keep believing your own invincibility. so when your job is sent offshore and you become the number that you already are but just don't realise it, you'll remember this day.

    time to stop believeing you are special because you aren't and understand you are expendable, adolf.

    when that happens, and it will be soon, all will become clearer to you.

    i am already laughing at you and your conceitedness in advance, goose.

    @ in his own mind Thomas -- 10/06/09 (in reply to #320142161)

    Its almost like you Labor zealots want jobs to move offshore just to prove a point. Why are you so incredibly angry?

    Why do you have such incredibly gigantic chips on your shoulder? It can only be jealousy.

    Your seething hatred for the guy driving the BMW is unmeasurable. Do you think for one minute he may have worked for it?

    re @ in his own mind Anonymous -- 10/06/09 (in reply to #320142445)

    Very well put Thomas. That is the trouble with a lot of these Labour zealots. They will not give the hard working successful person due praise, as they have never been successful themselves, and are forever envious. So they continually harass and try to lop the tall poppy, as a pathetic way of consoling themselves.

    wkae up, pompous tosser Anonymous -- 10/06/09 (in reply to #320142519)

    unsuccessful labor people like mr rudd and ms rein for example. you wish, boot licker.

    i wouldn't swap my bank account with both you and tom (sorry thomas) combined. i just don't feel the need to flaunt it and vote liberal, like you who pretends they have it all, oh tall poppy.

    what a pompous tosser you are. back to calls now.

    wkae up, pompous tosser Anonymous -- 12/06/09 (in reply to #320142536)

    You sound like you've lost your marbles, son. As for your bank account, it's probably about as big as your brain, which obviously won't go too far.

    the wordsmith Anonymous -- 13/06/09 (in reply to #320143127)

    gee how profound, about as big as your brain you say, ha.

    so as for the bank account as big as my brain (der) maybe. but regardless i still wouldn't swap with both of you.

    but you've been a busy little liberal haven't you? commenting at 9.23, 9.26 and 9.30 all right here, speaking of losing marbles.

    actually you sound a lot like those desperate, loser telstra shareholders, who have lost more than their marbles.

    Thomas Simon -- 10/06/09 (in reply to #320142445)

    I think you miss the point anonymous was making, in trying to out do him in the **** for tat, nastiness stakes, Thomas.

    Perhaps he's just trying to alert the likes of you to the fact that in your smugness, from within the apparent safety of your current position, like others before you in similar positions, there are no guarantees. The rug could be pulled from beneath you, or me, at any time.

    If this were to happen, would you still have the same bugger everyone else outlook?

    To me, your BMW comment said a lot about your priorites, concepts and ethics, Thomas.

    T!t? Si -- 10/06/09 (in reply to #320142550)

    Ha the word t!t got auto-edited.

    T!t? Anonymous -- 12/06/09 (in reply to #320142551)

    That's because he's a twit.

    Waste of time! Simon -- 13/06/09 (in reply to #320143128)

    Just trying to spell it out, without all the Liberal/Labor campaigning, for you anonymous. But it would appear it's all too much for you to actually comprehend!

    But really, why would anyone bother posting such a foolish comment in reply? That's because he's a twit?

    Oh well, I gave it a go. As they say, small things amuse small minds.

    This was the sms Anonymous -- 05/06/09

    ACTION ALERT National 4hr stoppage 2DAY. ALL to stop work 4hrs before end of your shift 2day. OT/ Recall bans apply 5-8 June. Enjoy ur long weekend. Jim Metcher

    This was as it was sent.

    so Anonymous -- 05/06/09 (in reply to #320141250)

    so?

    So Anonymous -- 08/06/09 (in reply to #320141283)

    I bet mtecher didn't lose half a days pay.

    Pay steve -- 09/06/09 (in reply to #320142068)

    I am sure he did not but all those poor union members did and for what

    for what.... Anonymous -- 09/06/09 (in reply to #320142297)

    to ensure working conditions for themselves and future generations.

    just like those previously did for selfish, money grabbing little worms like you.

    enjoy it while you can, the party will soon be over, liberal leech.

    The party will soon be over Dave -- 09/06/09 (in reply to #320142318)

    Over for who?

    This comment makes no sense and why is it that anyone who talks against unions is a liberal stooge.

    Notice how all the labour stooges hide behind the anonymous tag!!!

    By the way I voted Labour. I just don't think unions are as relevant today as what they were 10 yrs ago.

    Why don't the union leaders donate the half days pay to their own fund to support striking workers then people may start to have some more respect for them.

    Can't wait for the response to this post from all those angry anonymous Labour supporters.

    over for you, der! anonymous anonymous dave -- 09/06/09 (in reply to #320142331)

    your wait is over, liberal stooge. didn't want you to wet yourself in anticipation.

    gee thanks DAVE. you put your name, which probably isn't even your name, to *one* post and now hassle others for being anonymous, hypocrite.

    if it my last comment doesn't make sense *to you* DAVE, that overpriced grammar school, didn't earn their fees, eh?

    it's over for you of course. when your boss, while you are again bending over for him, whispers in your ear that your job is being outsourced abroad. and you will nod obligingly and say yessir, thank you sir.

    i think you'll find that john howard and peter reith outlawed donations to striking workers, an ideological master servant rule. they'd rather their *felow aushtryans and their kids* starve, than see big business not make billions and then donate to your precious liberal party.

    I can wait for your reply, as i'm sure it will be soooo intelligent (sic).

    Bitter and twisted Thomas -- 10/06/09 (in reply to #320142336)

    You would see everyone wearing grey jumpsuits with equal income wouldn't you.

    Are you angry that your Mummy and Daddy did not give you that Grammer education you so long for? Are you jealous you cannot afford to give it to your children? Or are you just another angry red Labor zealot spewing bitter and twisted socialist crap over zdnet?

    re bitter & twisted - over for you Anonymous -- 10/06/09 (in reply to #320142446)

    like sh** to a blanket. look at all the predictable little yes men, telstra employees, neo-liberals, coming out of the woodwork. a few home truths about you and your sucky ways and you sulk.

    just get back to work. telstra is going backwards because of bludgers like you, commenting here instead of doing your work. no wonder your jobs will soon be sent abroad, with such blatant advantage taking of your employer and no wonder your party cant win an election either, with such laziness.

    but when your jobs are gone you will then be, what do you so kindly refer to them as, *dole bludgers*, too? so just keep buffing the bosses helmet and saying yessir, thank you sir, until then. until he finally makes you realise that you arent royalty after all.

    as for your ridiculous link, two words, *young liberals*.

    seig heil.

    re bitter & twisted - over for you Anonymous -- 10/06/09 (in reply to #320142507)

    Bloody hell.........who would want to be a union member ?

    reply now old liberal Anonymous -- 10/06/09 (in reply to #320142520)

    look, there's that dopey dog chasing it's tail again, go fido.

    I'll say it again Anonymous -- 12/06/09 (in reply to #320142533)

    Bloody hell.........who would want to be a union member ?

    Fido Fido's master -- 14/06/09 (in reply to #320143129)

    Good boy Fido, lie down now.

    over for you, der Anonymous -- 10/06/09 (in reply to #320142336)

    Just have a scan of peoples attitude to yoiur beloved union movement in the attached link.

    http://www.news.com.au/comments/0,23600,25614218-2,00.html

    The rest of your diatribe doesn't matter comrade...judging by these comments. it's more likely it's over for you comrade.

    Jobs out sourced overseas Dave -- 13/06/09 (in reply to #320142336)

    It is a bit hard to outsource physical cable jointing overseas labour stooge.

    As for the grammar school it was actually the good old public education system.

    To show your lack of knowledge of all things the cepu does actually have a fund for striking workers.

    I can't wait for your reply, as i'm sure it will be soooo intelligent (sic).

    Are you prepared to identify yourself yet? Or are you going to continue your non intellectual rant from behind the anonymous tag?

    DAVE the blue collar would be liberal, lol Anonymous -- 13/06/09 (in reply to #320143198)

    physical cable jointing, wow, what a high flyer you are liberal stooge, i'm so envious - not.

    you'd be frowned upon down at liberal headquarters and the country club for being such an average no hoping, blue collar nobody, DAVE. but you keep living the dream, boy.

    how do you know the cepu have a working fund? you aren't a sympathiser are you, blue collar cable jointer DAVE?

    i'll stay anonymous, only because it ***sses little would be country club/liberal party would be nobody, blue collar nobodies like you off, blue collar, cable jointer DAVE.

    it just gets better and I can't wait for your reply, as i'm sure it will be soooo intelligent (sic), blue collar, cable jointer, would be white collar liberal, DAVE.

    cable jointer, haha

    DAVE the blue collar would be liberal, lol Anonymous -- 15/06/09 (in reply to #320143207)

    Still as nasty as ever Jason

    jason? Anonymous -- 15/06/09 (in reply to #320143347)

    jason? mel!

    @ DAVE Jason -- 19/06/09 (in reply to #320143347)

    Still as nasty as ever Jason. Roflmfao.

    Maybe, but rarelt and only to a few who truly deserve it, anonymous c**tservative, Liberal stooge,lol.

    As for the anonymous union thug, Labour/Labor stooge, lol. Not bad, nice similarities I must admit, but no banana.

    Re AWA Anonymous -- 07/07/09

    As David Thodey has just announced, an average of 2% is the extent of future AWA payrises.

    Compared to the guaranteed 4.5% + 4% + 4% used to entice union members onto ECA's in order to weaken the union position prior to the inevitable negotiations, it looks pretty poor.

    At least it is clear now what those employees who trusted and had faith in the management can expect in return for their loyalty.

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