Trujillo aims to 'blow everyone out of the water'

Telstra's plans to switch on ADSL2+ across 900 exchanges throughout the country may have a destabilising effect on the comms market and alter the national carrier's relationship with government and regulators, according to an IDC report.

"We believe that the announcement from Telstra to activate their remaining ADSL2+ ready exchanges as a result of Ministerial assurance and the Government's requirement to cull more than AU$10 billion of funding are related. As a result the OPEL funding will potentially be a casualty of larger macro economic inflation management processes," said David Cannon, Programme Manager of Telecommunications at research firm IDC.

According to the analyst, one of the first effects of Telstra's announcement may be that Optus cancels its plans to construct a new 3G network -- intended to provide 96 percent coverage to Australians -- as a means of competing with Telstra in rural and regional Australia.

"This effectively provides Telstra with a competitive stay of execution in regional and rural Australia," said Cannon.

"The activation of the ADSL2+ exchanges gives regional and rural communities metro-like broadband services and will counterbalance any negative public sentiment should the OPEL funding be withdrawn," he explained.

Geoff Johnson, research VP at analyst firm Gartner believes that Telstra's move may not only stifle competition in the bush, but may lead to an increase in prices. He said that the announcements made by CEO Sol Trujillo at the World Mobile Conference in Barcelona this week were aimed at unsettling the Australian market.

"If he keeps pushing the envelope like this he's going to damage OPEL's WiMax environment significantly, and that's going to push prices up for rural and city users.

"It just looks to me as though Trujillo is trying to blow everyone out of the water with this," said Johnson.

IDC's Cannon claimed that not only will Telstra's decision affect OPEL's operations but also Vodafone's intentions to build its own 3G coverage through Optus, which he says may result in Vodafone "reassessing its commitment" to that particular undertaking.

Cannon expects that not only will this change Telstra's relationship with its competitors but with the government and regulators as well, saying that the decision will put further strain on the telco's relationship with the ACCC and the federal government -- after its decision to provide assurances to Telstra, which he believes may have been interpreted by the carrier as a "backdown".

"This could encourage Telstra to ignore the regulator and engage in legal sabre-rattling for extended periods of time while it enjoys market share monopoly and profits," he added.

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Talkback 58 comments

  1. Blow everyone out of the water?? LOL Anonymous -- 13/02/08

    Yes lets blow the competition out of the water with over priced services. $69 per month for 600mb and $150 per gig excess fees. I'm sure the competition is trembling..

    The sad thing is though that there will still be 'mum and dad' customers who will go with Telstra.

  2. Why blow everyone out of the water? Anonymous -- 13/02/08

    Why blow everyone out of the water when cheap prices will blow your socks off!

  3. Reality Charles -- 13/02/08

    Telstra has in the past invested and is continuing to invest heavily in providing services to CBD, metro, regional and rural Australia. The only real reason Telstra is pacing the rollout of new services is because they want assurances in relation to investment returns.

    The Next G network was launched and by the time it becomes 2 years old will have over 5 times the speed and much greater coverage then any other similar technology competitor. This is because there is an assurance this will not be "declared". If Optus and Vodaphone are reluctant to invest it is because the returns won't be as high as their business model requires.

    I would welcome having different ADSL prices, one for highly populated areas and one for regional. That would mean companies would have an incentive to build in the bush while still maintaining their low prices in the high margin, high population areas. It would also mean that Telstra's prices in metro areas could be reduced to be more competitive in areas where most players focus on due to ease of delivery and lower ongoing pricing.

    This may not make regional Australia happy but the reality is that service delivery in those areas is much higher and they shouldn't be subsidised by metro consumers, although the government could apply a suitable subsidy for each active service instead of handing out $968,000,000 or $4,700,000,000 to build a network that may never be properly utilised.

    1. Reality - Check Anonymous -- 14/02/08

      "The Next G network was launched and by the time it becomes 2 years old will have over 5 times the speed", nice to know the network can support 14.4Mbps when there does not exist even a single device which can access the network at that speed. (I bought a new phone Nov'07, only ONE "Telstra approved" phone even hit 7.2Mbs at that time, and NONE hit 14.4Mbps)
      ... Even better to be crowing about hitting 21Mbps this year and double that next year..... Once again Telstra is ALL SMOKE AND MIRRORS, totally FULL OF THEMSELVES and not actually delivering useful services to customers.

    2. Dumb Anonymous -- 10/03/08

      This is indicative of Telstra's commitment and pioneering steady progression in enhancing the network to greater speeds. The fact that there are few devices that can utilize the speed at the present time is not their problem.

      Device manufacturers need to catch up.

      "If you build it, they will come"

  4. Spin Anonymous -- 13/02/08

    OK, so Sol has activated ADSL2+, but what does that do for communities such as Bathurst that doesn't enjoy the luxury of an abundance of physical exchange lines to get the broadband out that last niggly mile, or fior cities such as Bankstown that live with aging corroded mid-20th century cabling that is so unreliable the bit-error rate is greater than the signal rate.

    The high-speed broadband may be at the exchange, but it's not getting out to the customers. So long as Sol and his band of merry Mexicans dominate, we will all be the losers!

    1. Spin Anonymous -- 14/02/08

      I am SO glad someone said this.

      Show me a country town that has a majority of its population within 2km (line lenght too btw) of the poorly maintained phone exchange.

      You can put all the DSLAM's you want in but the signal aint getting to the cursomer on copper.

  5. Big Bang. Sydney Lawrence -- 13/02/08

    For some time Sol and Telstra have suffered the constant abuse of competitors and at times we have seen some pretty rough stuff.

    I would not blame Sol and Telstra one little bit if they get the chance to "blow the competition out of the water".

    1. Don't forget... Akira Doe -- 14/02/08

      Blowing the Competition out of the water, and taking the water away from the Competition are two different things.

      Sure, not having to compete to blow your competition out of the water is good for shareholders, and Sol bank balance, but not for Australia.

      Why does this have me worried that if things continue, prices are going to go up, and while services might get faster, they are going to deliver a lot less...

      Shades of the old 3GB debacle wayyy back when…

    2. PAID TELSTRA SHILL The Truth -- 14/02/08

      Why do you never disclose that you are from Telstra's propaganda website?

    3. PAID OPTUS SHILL Read between the lines -- 14/02/08

      Why don't you tell everyone you work for Optus' PR department.

  6. Long term thinking Carlos -- 14/02/08

    People love to blame a CEO who has been in the company (and country) for around two years for the mistakes of the past leaders and regulators. In my opinion he has done more for this company in this time then the other CEO's, politicians and regulators have in the past 10 years.

    The copper network has had constantly reducing investment for many years because the reducing returns only justify reducing investment. This is an access mechanism that will not be around in 10 years but everyone expects Telstra to invest as if it will be around for another 20 or 30 years and keep growing.

    ADSL2+ is a solution that will deliver a quick solution to many (not everyone) without having to increase charges that are around today and without having to eat into the government coffers.

    For every increase in the wholesale and retail line costs by $0.10 per month an additional $30M in extra income for Telstra is realised each year; this would encourage Telstra to do more in terms of upgrading and maintaining the copper as well as encouraging the other companies to invest in building their own networks to reduce their reliance on Telstra. It may not be a free ride for these companies but it is cheaper for them to access Telstra's infrastructure then to invest themselves.

    If people think long term, a small increase in costs today will encourage investment which will increase competition which will add to the downward pressures on retail and wholesale prices instead of the regulators simply discouraging short term investment by everyone.

    1. Face The Facts Anonymous -- 14/02/08

      "The copper network has had constantly reducing investment for many years because the reducing returns only justify reducing investment." Last year a ruling by the ACCC clearly demonstrated that Telstra was billing *the end customer* a component of line-rental cost to cover line-maintenance AND also factoring the same "line maintenance" costs against what they charged wholesalers FOR THE SAME LINE (eg in LSS services).... WHo in their right mind would claim a reduction of returns on copper lines when Telstra has for many years been DOUBLE-BILLING supposedly to maintain those same copper lines.

    2. Long Term *LACK* of thinking Anonymous -- 14/02/08

      "a small increase in costs today will encourage investment which will increase competition" --- Yeah, sure it will - except that the "investment" Telstra wants to make is in the specific infrastructure (with regulatory concessions, as well) which will specifically PHYSICALLY and LEGALLY exclude 'the competition" from having *ANY* "local access" to customers whatsoever.... So your argument that higher charges by Telstra will permit additional investment and foster competition bears NO RELATIONSHIP TO ANY FORM OF REALITY KNOWN TO MAN, certainly it has nothing to do with the stated policies and listed goals of Sol at Telstra.

    3. Australia first. Sydney Lawrence -- 14/02/08

      To be realistic the only way to get real competition is to invest money in equipment and service that will attract the interest of customers.

      To try to simply freeload on a competitor will simply weaken all and restrict future investment in the Industry. I admit the freeloaders have a cosy little trick going but it is to the detriment of Australia and must be stopped.

    4. Blame the right people Lord Watchdog -- 14/02/08

      Instead of sulking about ISPs wanting access to Telstra's network you should be blaming Bob Hawke, Paul Keating and Michael Lee, who created the environment in the first place.

      I am all for at least a second national telephone/IP network not owned by Telstra and run in parallel to Telstra's network which would go some way toward providing genuine competition at the wholesale level however unless the government shows some backbone and creates an environment where it is necessary then your ideals and mine are not going to come to fruition.

      It's all well and good to be against the current situation however you cannot force companies that have invested in business models supported by them having access to Telstra's network suddenly cease to do so and thus force them into bankruptcy.

    5. What the? Simon -- 14/02/08

      What did Hawke/Keating have to do with privatising the public assetts of Telecom Australia? The release of T1 without the separation of infrastructure was against the advice of all telecommunications analysts in 1997 and the prdicted outcomes have become a reality. You cannot blame Telstra for wanting to maximise its advantage of the access monopoly, even though it is contra to the interests of this nation. The fault lies with successive Govts who have not acted in the national interest to correct this. The only real solutions are for the Govt to either open up the easements to competitors or re-aquire the infrastructure with its remaining telstra stake and administer impartially.
      It is a nonsense to expect any organisation to be able to roll out a competing network and the nation is not populated enough to warrant the redundant infrastructure.

    6. Those who fail history are doomed to repeat it. Anonymous -- 14/02/08

      What did they have to do with it? Umm... maybe the fact that they decided it needed to be privatised and started the process of corporatising the organisation, just like they did to Qantas and the Commonwealth Bank.

    7. Not a thing Lord Watchdog -- 26/02/08

      From Simon: "What did Hawke/Keating have to do with privatising the public assetts [sic] of Telecom Australia?"

      Please keep your comments relevant instead of doing what Sydney Lawrence and his fellow Telstra fanboys do and distorting arguments to the point of obscurity. I didn't mention a thing about privatisation. My comments relate to the current regulatory regime.

    8. your true knowledge lord Anonymous -- 14/02/08

      "It's all well and good to be against the current situation however you cannot force companies that have invested in business models supported by them having access to Telstra's network suddenly cease to do so and thus force them into bankruptcy."

      What company would base their business model on getting a free ride forever, any company that entered this market over a decade ago would have know that the environment will change over time and will need to invest real capital into preparing for this day, after all this time and lack of investment from the 600+ players in the market all people can do is complain about Telstra's lack of investment with the hope they can distract people from the real problem and get their free ride for a little longer.

    9. PAID TELSTRA SHILL The Truth -- 14/02/08

      Sydney Lawrence is from Telstra's propaganda website.

    10. The truth is hardly a secret Anonymous -- 15/02/08

      Why does it matter where sydney lawrence is from?
      I'm sure that everyone that frequents these sites will be familiar with the name, and almost certainly familiar with the nwat site also. this is no secret.
      I'm sure Sydney would be the first to acknowledge it, as he is a self confessed shareholder of Telstra, and any shareholder of any company would surely have opinions that serve the best interests of that company.
      I really get tired of people posting things about individuals. We're talking about the ADSL2 getting turned on.
      I personally don't care if Sydney is from Mars, and Lord watchdog is from Jupiter.
      Please try to stick to the subject at hand or go post your rubbish elsewhere.

    11. The Truth is a Lie. Sydney Lawrence -- 16/02/08

      Ha Ha Ha "The Truth" you make me laugh. I am sure, and certain, that the great Australian company Telstra could do far better than me as a paid shrill. I am a retired fork-lilt driver who, as a decent Aussie took exception to the shocking treatment of Australia's Telstra by the un-Australian Howard cowboys. Believe me I receive no kickbacks from Telstra, can you say the same about the Company you support?

    12. Red or blue? Lord Watchdog -- 26/02/08

      Sydney, the best thing is to not support any company. They are all in it, to varying degrees, to make money. I learned a long time ago to distance myself from the good intentions offered by any business. They aren't out there to make you happy just count their money.

      Sit in the neutral corner and you have a far lesser chance of getting your fingers burnt in a dispute. I change my dealings with telephone carriers, electricity providers, ISPs and even the supermarket when I feel I am being given a raw deal or the run-around. Your underlying devotion to the Big T will come back to bite you on the khyber pass one day.

    13. Red, blue or lots of brown stuff???? Anonymous -- 26/02/08

      This is a very strange comment to come from someone who is so vocal in their hatred towards an individual company.

      Shouldn't you take your own advice and sit in a neutral corner, you may wish to argue that you are and only make comments when needed but we have all heard your ranting and raving about your undisputed hatred towards Telstra.

    14. You assume too much Lord Watchdog -- 27/02/08

      Anonymous, what makes you think that I only "hate" one company? More to the point, what makes you think that I hate any company?

      Companies that give me value for money and good service make me happy. I don't deny that. Companies that lie to me, rip me off, offer dreadful value for money, place needless restrictions on the provision of their services or refuse to warrant that their products or services are fit for the stated purpose do not make me happy. I don't deny that either.

      None of the above should be in any way construed as me loving or hating any company in particular. I don't have emotional feelings towards any of them, unlike perhaps yourself or Sydney Lawrence who seems to sound more and more like one of Sol's Amigos every day.

      I call the play as I see it. If you cannot come to grips with a bit of free speech then that is a shortcoming on your part and not mine or anyone elses.

    15. Shall I quote you? Woof Woof Woof -- 27/02/08

      Self proclaimed Lord, you have repeatedly made comments about your hatred of Telstra. Why do you try and deny it is based on anything other then spite? I constantly read the comments for many stories on this and other sites and you regularly contradict yourself with one goal in mind, bag Telstra.

      Free speech is a right we all have but with any form of speech it is targeted at those who will listen, some are smart enough to know what to believe or accept while others are naive and will believe anything they hear. Intelligent people of this world utilise their right to provide meaningful, honest and unbiased commentary while others like you simply target those who do not know better and hope they get some people who will listen.

      I enjoy reading the intelligent comments from all sides to help increase my understanding of the world around me, I also enjoy reading comments from people such as you to give me a laugh and to remind me of the warped view of the world some people have. I hope one day you will take a deep breath and allow some of that oxygen to reach your brain, in the meantime keep writing your dribble so I can throw you a bone every now and then.

    16. English lesson Lord Watchdog -- 28/02/08

      If you can truthfully quote me saying "I hate Telstra" anywhere on this website then I will send you $10,000 in cold hard cash.

      Giving Telstra some stick for lousy service isn't tantamount to hatred. For the record I support Telstra's position on competition as far as saying that every other ISP should install their own equipment rather than bleating about wholesaling Telstra's service.

      What stinks about Telstra is their service. I am not suggesting for a minute that Telstra is the only company that has a lousy customer relations agenda but as most of the threads on this website pertain to some stuff-up or empty promise made by Telstra then they are the matters I am addressing.

      When I dumped Bigpond cable in favour of ADSL with another provider about two years ago I received a phone call from them.

      They not only had the temerity to ask why I had closed my Bigpond account but after I explained to them that I'd signed contracts with other service providers they tried to encourage me to cancel those contracts and re-sign with Bigpond.

      The twit at the other end of the line surely would have realised that if I had taken the advice I would have been liable to large payouts for renegging on the new contracts I had signed, especially since Bigpond requests large payouts for early terminations of contract - all this in addition to Bigpond's signup fees and extortionate monthly charges. They tried so hard to get me back but my closing remark to the woman was that if Bigpond had paid that level of attention to my requirements whilst I was a customer then I would have remained as a subscriber with them.

      The laughable thing about you Bigpond fanboys is that you cannot say why Bigpond is a good company. Your sole reason for commenting is simply to belittle those posters who have genuine grievances with Bigpond. If Telstra is so bloody great then come out and say why instead of launching personal attacks on other users.

      No matter what positive comment you have to say about Telstra I will be able to supply the name of another ISP/phone carrier who does the same thing either at a lower price or more quickly.

    17. $10,000? Anonymous -- 28/02/08

      The exact words you offer this payment for may not exist in that form but your constant attacks on everything that Telstra does could only lead to readers believe that is your intention.

      I am certain that if I took every Telstra related post of yours on this site, whirlpool and many others and showed then to a 100 random people off the streets the majority would arrive at the same conclusion as me.

      Here is one nice quote I found after a quick google...

      "Telstra was once the mighty Postmaster General’s Department but now it is a national eye-sore, partly due to Sol’s mis-management of the company."

      Not bad considering this was written only 6 months after Sol joined the company.

      Do you really think a company that rips people off so much would show a profit of only 20% of earnings? If we look at turnover of all of your wonderful low cost ISP's and compare it with their their margins I am sure you will find that Telstra is towards the lower end of the scale.

      I await your response, I can only assume you will attack using the standard lines of incompetent management, poor operational practices and wasted investment opportunities.

    18. heh Lord Watchdog -- 29/02/08

      "Do you really think a company that rips people off so much would show a profit of only 20% of earnings?"

      That is something you should put to Telstra's bean counters. I don't care what profit margin Telstra has because I am not a shareholder.

      "If we look at turnover of all of your wonderful low cost ISP's and compare it with their their margins I am sure you will find that Telstra is towards the lower end of the scale."

      Maybe, maybe not. Post a table containing company names and profit margins for 2006/7 and we'll see.

      "I await your response, I can only assume you will attack using the standard lines of incompetent management, poor operational practices and wasted investment opportunities."

      No real need. Telstra's financial results and a ****-poor share price speaks volumes for how well Telstra conducts their affairs.

      And if you think that ZDNet and Whirlpool are the only forums I speak on then you are mistaken. I am still waiting for your response to my question about what makes Telstra such a great company to deal with too. It would be nice to see a Telstra supporter answer this, even partially instead of resorting to attacks on opposing views.

    19. A great company to deal with Hot 2 Trot -- 29/02/08

      Telstra is not a great company to deal with, but then again neither is any other company out there.

      At then end of the day it is simple, these companies will deliver a service with the lowest 'acceptable' level at the most 'acceptable' price. Every company will have a different metric for what acceptable means but unfortunately the common Joe Blow (or Brad) measure 'acceptable' as being highest quality and dirt cheap.

      Due to the commodity driven attitude of consumers towards telecommunications true service has become the sacrificial lamb. Wages have skyrocketed in the past 20 years (mine by over 1,000%) while the monthly cost of using home telephone services has not even doubled in this time, factoring inflation I would estimate it has actually declined, something has to be compromised for this to occur.

      The greatest injustice that is happening in the telecommunications industry is that the media themselves. They only want headline stories and the poor performance of the other 723 registered telecommunications companies do not generate the same reader numbers and responses as stories about Telstra.

    20. Great company Lord Watchdog -- 03/03/08

      I would agree that quite often the media are short of anything newsworthy to publish so they will find subject matter to sensationalise. If it isn't Telstra it will be Apple or Microsoft. To a reporter none of the above do anything right.

      The reason that telecommunications costs have not risen inline with inflation is economies of scale within the industry. There are more customers than there were 20 years ago and to an extent there is competition. There is also the fact that exchange equipment is far more electrically efficient than 20 years ago. In fact 20 years ago, some exchanges were still operated by people and whilst this was only in remote areas it shows that things have come a long way in that time. Then there is the cost of hiring staff. It is a fact that the combined total of staff employed by every telephone carrier and ISP in Australia at present still falls short of the number of staff employed by Telstra 20 years ago when it was the only provider.

      "Every company will have a different metric for what acceptable means but unfortunately the common Joe Blow (or Brad) measure 'acceptable' as being highest quality and dirt cheap."

      That is not quite the case. I measure what I purchase in terms of value for money. My connections to the Internet are critical because I host my own websites and a handful of other servers. Value for money hardly ever means lowest price and I am sure that I could pay less if I chose to. It is a balance between the two issues you highlighted - quality and cost.

      "They only want headline stories and the poor performance of the other 723 registered telecommunications companies do not generate the same reader numbers and responses as stories about Telstra."

      I agree however this is an issue for the media to deal with and not the commenters on media websites. I'd have plenty to say about a couple of small ISPs I've had dealings with if an opportunity existed but a thread about Telstra is not the place to do that in.

    21. Look at it in it's entirety Hot 2 Trot -- 03/03/08

      Based on your logic one quick example - cars - they would be cheaper then they were 20 years ago (more cars, higher automation etc). not very logical is it?

      If we drill down a bit deeper
      20 years ago Telecom had 110,000 employees earning around $15,000 per employee on average. That makes $1.65B in pay, now they have 45,000 employees earning around $60,000 on average $2.7B.
      20 Yeas ago Telecom had a PSTN, one mobile and a few minor data networks to run, now there are several voice networks, three mobile networks and countless data networks.
      etc, etc, etc

      In the inefficient days of government ownership Telecom was making much higher profit margins then Telstra is today. Let's not try and pretend that Telstra is simply a cash cow for their investors, they make $4 billion in profits but this is about what is expected for a company that turns over close to $40 billion.

      It would be nice to have a few stories about the other companies out there but they only seem to rate a mention when they are attacking Telstra.

    22. No Lord Watchdog -- 04/03/08

      Your example about cars is accurate except that cars have improved over time in build quality and equipment levels.

      20 years ago many cars still had vinyl floors, vinyl seats, AM radio and at best a three speed auto. Now they have air conditioning, 4 speed auto, airbags everywhere, loop pile carpet, cloth seats, electric mirrors, stability control, anti-lock brakes, and AM/FM/Tape/CD/MP3 stereo all on the base model.

      You could argue that with the digitising of telephone exchanges you can have ADSL2, call waiting, voice mail, caller ID and conference calling as well as being able to make and receive normal phone calls but these features are centralised in exchanges and not built in to telephones so per customer, they are cheaper to provide. And this is assuming that all of the above are provided to you at no change, which isn't the case. Some of them you pay through the nose for.

    23. You will do and say anything to attack Telstra Wake up to yourself -- 04/03/08

      The Lord in one story offers $10,000 if someone can prove he "hates Telstra" and then will stoop to new a low in another story to prove that you do.

      When will you get off your high horse and realise that all you are is a disgruntled individual that has a stick up your a** for years because of a long forgotten disagreement with the company over a service that is all but dead in today's environment.

      You say "And this is assuming that all of the above are provided to you at no change, which isn't the case", that sounds very much like the car industry to me, our beloved Commodore doesn't even come with air conditioning as standard in the most popular model.

    24. If the cap fits Lord Watchdog -- 05/03/08

      I call it as I see it mate. At least I have the balls to tell the truth which is more than I can say for your conspiracy theories and the fact that as a serial internet menace you comment without naming yourself.

      It shows the integrity of the Telstra camp: make outrageous falsehoods, hide behind obscure usernames and accuse any opposition of hatred. All you are doing is mirroring the habits of the Amigos. :-p

    25. He should call himself Anonymous -- 05/03/08

      Almighty Watchdog's Watchdog. It looks like he is keeping an eye on you and you don't seem to like it.

    26. How is this person a serial menace? Anna Watts -- 05/03/08

      Just wondering how you could call him or her that as it appears that this person only posts when you post. Would that make you a menace as well?

    27. Cars improved? Anonymous -- 04/03/08

      Cars are made to last no more then 10 years now, back then they were made much more solidly using steel, much more reliable engines and were a statement. Today's cars may be more moden but they don't hold a candle to the classic cars of old.

    28. Cars Simon -- 04/03/08

      Actuall, I bought a Mazda 626 in 1997 for $35,000. The equivalent model today (a much improved car) is $27,000. What were you trying to say?

    29. Calling the USA Tony Windsor -- 04/03/08

      In 1993 I was trying to expand a business into the USA. It was costing me over $1 per minute to make a call, today my company pays around 15c and I am sure if we went with a less reputable company I could get it even cheaper.

      In 1997 the Australian dollar was around 60c, so your car was worth about $21,000US, today that car is actually $25,100US. Going from 60c to 93c in exchange rate will obviously skew imported items.

      Mr Trot and Mr Yourself have very valid arguments in my humble opinion.

    30. T1 simon -- 15/02/08

      Keating positioned the privatisation of Telstra but it was Howard who refused to separate infrastructure from sales. The initial proposal was to sell the sales organisation and for the Govt to administer the infrastructure & retaining NDC and TRL. This would have led to a very different inductry today. Without the easements, there will never be another player in the access network.

    31. Telstra's Copper Network Anonymous -- 19/02/08

      It all comes down to politics. When the concept of deregulation came about, initially proposed by Kim Beasley, the exercise was publicised as "Plumbers attempting to do brain surgery".
      When privatisation eventually came about, it was championed by John Howard and the Liberal party who, without any real knowledge of what they were doing, created Telstra and in doing so, put thousands of highly trained people out of work. At the time, the copper network was considered to be an outdated encumbrance that could only be used by outdated circuit switched networks such as the PSTN. Then, lo and behold, *DSL turned up on the scene and suddenly, Telstra's bane turned into a goldmine which it enthusiastucally milked, suddenly realising that it had a head start over the twentieth century over any competition. Then came the next mistake and that was the appointment of Blount, who although he was a good engineer, closed down Telstra's Research Labs, deferring all work to Bell Labs (now privatised as Telcordia). Then came the establishment of "competition " and a second carrier. What this was about was bailing the government out of an incredible debt of around $AUD 800billion incurred by Aussat. This was handled by the plumbers (AKA politicians) creating a new entity called Optus with a totally different culture, primarily made up of a consortium of Bell South USA, Cable and Wireless UK, Mayne Nickless and others who paid for the privilege of starting Optus by paying the Government $AUD800B and placing a former MacDonald's executive in charge (of course). Then came the next stage of convincing the Australian Public to buy shares in its newest creation, Telstra - a shell of the former Telecom Australia and making many (most) of its technical staff redundant. Then came the ultimate mistake, recruiting a new CEO (another American who was a salesman on a grossly inflated salary) to run the show - that is, after recruiting Howard's mate, Mansfield and Ziggy from Optus, who was struggling, their dismissal along with the rest of the board because they offended Kerry Packer. The money that came from T1 and T2 was used to pay off Government incurred offshore debt and to fund Howard's fantasies. I worked for the organisation for a long while, but got out as I watched the antics of Telstra. The best time was when we had Mel Ward as CEO whose salary was nothing like Trujillo's and those of his henchmen. In the meantime, Optus was really in trouble in the year 2000 and had to resort to selling the farm to the highest bidder. So what happened to the money from T1 and T2. howard used it to (guess what) pay off massive Government incurred offshore debt. We used to have an Australian icon running our telecommunications facilities which were built by Australians. What a mess! Instead of creating a competitive environment, the plumbers have botched the brain surgery.

    32. Would pass to the uninformed Anton -- 19/02/08

      The above "Telstra's Copper Network" is full of factual errors it is not funny.

      created Telstra? Telstra was a re-branding of Telecom Australia and nothing more, instead of being a boring government department they had to re-brand to become recognised worldwide and the word Telecom was simply used by too many companies.

      $AUS 800billion? you would fool more people by writing $0.80, you probably mean $800m.

      "Then, lo and behold, *DSL turned up on the scene", privatisation was planned and implementation started almost 10 years before DSL made it into Australia and about 5 before it was available anywhere in the world.

      "closed down Telstra's Research Labs" this was done in 2005 and in the tail end of Ziggy's demise and well after Frank had left.

      I could keep going with other errors but let's not waffle on.

  7. Broadband availability is more than an exchange! Bill Caelli -- 14/02/08

    The following statement from the article is unbelievable: "The activation of the ADSL2+ exchanges gives regional and rural communities metro-like broadband services and will counterbalance any negative public sentiment should the OPEL funding be withdrawn," he explained.

    Utter NONSENSE - in rural and regional areas the incidence of the dreadful Telstra RIM and Pair-Gain circuit mess is real and large scale.

    Does the Rudd government realise that putting ADSL2+ in an exchange has nothing to do with the availability of that service at the end of a pair-gain copper circuit on the actual user premises?

    For us RIM/Pair Gain Telstra victims WITH NO ACCESS TO BROADBAND AT ALL, the only hope we have is OPEL in the short term - I hardly call the old Coonan "guarantee" with a satellite dish at 1.5Mbit/sec and a price around $149 a month a satisfactory solution. AND - just how long can that go on for? Australia will bristle with 1.2Metre dishes springing up like mushrooms in the regional and outER suburban/growth areas. That "fibre" to the whatever approach will take years anyway - a lifetime in Internet terms.

    1. the Rudd Government's approach to Telecommunications Anonymous -- 19/02/08

      the new government has begun by scrapping the former regulator, the ACMA and the Arts and replacing it with the Department of Broadband Communications and the Digital Community, inviting tenders from Australian Telecommunications experts, throwing the Arts portfolio into another heap where it's relevant. Let's hope that we get control over our industry again and, maybe with a little re-regulation, will be able to curb the two monsters that the politicians created and bring about a service that is in the best interest of Australian people. Send Trujillo and his gang home before they do any more damage and replace them with Australians.

    2. Typical uninformed racist cra* Keith -- 19/02/08

      "Send Trujillo and his gang home before they do any more damage and replace them with Australians"

      Once an Australian CEO takes over will anything change? The only Australians that would be qualified in this industry would have had to of worked for a competing telecommunications company (just like Ziggy and we all know what he did).

  8. Where has the competition been? Matt -- 14/02/08

    Optus, Hutchison, Vodafone, primus etc have all been around for a LOT of years.

    A lot of years that they have had the opportunity to build networks to challenge the dominance of telstra in internet and mobile telephone services.

    They have all piggy backed off the investment initially from taxpayers and then from investors in Telstra - not their companies. Yet they have not built their own competing networks in rural areas.

    So why have they not one so - why did they have to beg the Government to fund them to do it if it is such a profitable business for Telstra??

    Again I say that the licence condition for ALL carriers (not just Telstra) should include the mandate that they invest in rural areas for all telecommunications services (internet and mobile telephone)

  9. SO WHAT! Bill Whitehead -- 15/02/08

    This is one of the biggest sham announcement I have ever heard of.
    Telstra can sprout all they like about ADSL2+ and they can turn it on in EVERY exchange in Australia but it will DO NOTHING for competition or the custome the problemis that TELSTRA has shackled the customer with less than 3rd world infrastructure in the form of RIM's and PAIR GAIN, which is the most evil form thuggery a telecommunicaiton company can inflict on it customers. The vast majority of RIM/PAIR GAIN customers can only get low speed ADSL with NO chance of every accessing any comptition products and pricing this is a MAJOR RORT by TELSTRA.

    I can not understand for one single second why Jorno's like Marcus Browne, ZDNet.com.au and HIS Editor and other Telecommunication staff dont start whacking TELSTRA between the eyes everytime they announce utter rot like this and ask why they are not fixing up the infrastructure to the customer home first with some real investment from the Billions of dollars they have rorted out all us, private user or Business users by getting away with suppling some of the worst infrastructure in the world to the Australian Consumer.

    Lets hope that one day someone will have the guts to sack all of the accountants, lawers and other "Business" focused groups from the decision making groups and put back the Engineers that made the network that TELSTRA is quickly destroying one of the best in the world.

    All we the consumer who has NO CHOICE what so ever in this debate can hope for and that one day every single Australian irrasepective of where they live will have access to the same level of serivce and support that we all once had before the accounts took over.

    1. No Choice? Tony Browne -- 15/02/08

      The consumer has plenty of choices, there are lots and lots to communications companies in Australia. The only issue is people like you live in areas that are not considered profitable enough for them to enter. Instead of attacking Telstra at every opportunity (reasonable or not) why not attack the other 99.9% of companies that do not invest any money in trying to deliver the service you need.

      You make reference to third world services, if you look at third world locations you will find that often things do not improve due to lack of knowledge or effort by the masses and eventually they start to rely on the handouts of others. People who talk third world probably think third world and simply want someone else to hand out everything they need at little or no cost, would you like unlimited use of my car as well for $20 per week?

    2. Competition Anonymous -- 20/02/08

      "why not attack the other 99.9% of companies that do not invest any money in trying to deliver the service you need" - because to roll out the residential access to allow competition, you need access to the easements or the cost will multiply by orders of magnitude. Telstr'a control of easements is what's blocking the competitive ability to access customers. Australia is the only nation stupid enough to allow this to happen. No service provider I know of enjoys being forced to utilise Tesltra infrastructure. They are over charged, harased and impeded by Telstra at every step. You want a competative network then you need to first allow competition.

    3. They are over charged, harased and impeded by Telstra at every step Anonymous -- 20/02/08

      The ACCC regulates every access mechanism and it's price that is deemed to be a monopoly.

      The big bad expensive Telstra line has become one of the bigest and often only arguements that people use.

      Please provide proof to back up your statement otherwise any response given would be just as stupid.

    4. over charged and harased Anonymous -- 26/02/08

      Talk with any ISP who has located equipment in exchanges. Talk to people who have access to adsl blocked unless thru Telstra. Talk to iSPs about wholsale pricing greater than inhouse retail. Telstra has this reputation for a reason, it has done and continues, to burn people. This forum is not a courtroom but a vehivcle for opinion and experience to be exchanged. I don't remember calling anyone stupid either?

    5. Not calling anyone stupid Anonymous -- 26/02/08

      I think the writer earlier was simply stating that if they lowered their comments to the earlier level the comment itself would be stupid, either that or someone is just paranoid.

  10. Cannon Fodder Anonymous -- 15/02/08

    "IDC's Cannon claimed that not only will Telstra's decision affect OPEL's operations but also Vodafone's intentions to build its own 3G coverage through Optus, which he says may result in Vodafone "reassessing its commitment" to that particular undertaking."

    Vodafone is expanding their 3G coverage on its own, not through Optus.

    Optus and Voda got together on their Metro 3G Network only.

  11. Telstra is evil Anonymous -- 20/02/08

    Does anyone else reckon Telstra are just market bullies and they should be broken up or something?
    Does Australian law allow for the breakup of monopolies?

    1. Telstra is evil Anonymous -- 20/02/08

      Yes and no but the Govt owns the controlling interest still so could force a breakup.

  12. HAD TO LAUGH RE MORON Anonymous -- 13/04/08

    SINCE WHEN WAS BROADBAND AND OR INTERNET AROUND WHEN KEATING WAS IN OFFICE HEHEHE.ALBEIT IT WAS SOUGHT OF UNDER THE OF THE YANKS DURING VIETNAM WAR,OUCH THE YANKS ARE BACK.

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