Terria gets unions on board

The Terria broadband consortium is finalising a deal with key telecommunications unions which would see the groups negotiate a collective agreement in the event of Terria winning the Federal Government's $4.7 billion broadband contract.

ACTU assistant secretary Tim Lyons confirmed the deal in a statement this morning, saying it would also include clauses relating to the joint development of initiatives to assist Terria in recruiting, training and deploying the employees it will need.

The news comes as Telstra's relationship with its key unions has recently struck a low, with the Communications, Electrical and Plumbing Union heading to the Australian Industrial Relations Commission last week to seek permission to hold industrial action in Telstra's operations around the country.

"It is essential for major projects such as the national broadband network to be underpinned by a stable and secure enterprise agreement," said Lyons. "Other large infrastructure projects do this, and the broadband network should be no different."

In an email to Lyons seen by ZDNet.com.au, Terria chairman Michael Egan wrote the broadband consortium was "increasingly confident" of winning the National Broadband Network rights, both because of the quality of its bid and the "refusal of Telstra" to engage with what Egan said were public policy objectives set by the Rudd Labor government.

Terria chairman Michael Egan
(Credit: Terria)

"Good management, of course, requires good industrial relations and a harmonious workplace," he added. "Terria would be interested, therefore in commencing a dialogue with the ACTU about how this might be achieved."

Egan said the agreement could be along the lines of the landmark "Olympic agreement" between the NSW Government and the trade union, which helped deliver the Sydney Olympics in the year 2000.

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Talkback 27 comments

    Terria - Its just a flesh wound Anonymous -- 10/11/08

    Sure smells like a contrived bit of theatre.

    Desperate irrelevant union, + Desperate irrelevant Terria = Great laughs.

    C'mon Terria please, please please win the NBN.

    Found anyone with $10 -20 Billion Dollars yet, let alone someone willing to give to Terria.
    . . . Who is happy to risk it for a "targeted" barely break even ROI . . . . With a determined resourceful Telstra ready to fight HARD against the "winner" of the NBN.

    I can't believe this pathetic joke is still going on.

    @terria ned kelly -- 10/11/08 (in reply to #320115935)

    if they are so pathetic, why are you so frightened and feel the need to display this in every comment.

    Lets use your analogy, so if in the unlikely event you understand basic maths -

    desperate irrelevant union (negative) + desperate irrelevant terria (negative) = POSITIVE (2 negs = positive when I went to school). rofl at you.

    i cant believe you pathetically continue to comment on the same crap day after day.

    Terria - "Calling all Morons, Calling all . . .Hi Ned Anonymous -- 10/11/08 (in reply to #320115942)

    When Terria ceases their stupid pretence and morons like you stop buying into it, I'll stop highlighting how ridiculous you ****wits are ;-)

    @ terria calling ned kelly -- 23/11/08 (in reply to #320115963)

    hello, sorry i didnt reply earlier, but your most intelligent comment slipped under the radar.

    i see you cant comprehend even basics, brain surgeon, so i'll spell it out for you.

    i do not support terria!

    i do not support telstra!

    unlike you who stands to gain from a telstra nbn win, i do not gain directly from anyone winning.

    the thing a lot of people are missing in amongst all these wonderous comments, rofl, isn't how much telstra shareholders/employees or optus shareholders/employess etc will gain from an nbn win, its how much they will *lose* if their precious company doesnt win, especially telstra. thats why we have all the hullabaloo and nasty biased comments

    so it isn't really greed which forces you to make such irrationally stupid comments is it?, its actually desperation!

    desperation of seeing your telstra shares, which you probably paid somewhere between $3.50 and $7.50, so averaged out say $5.50, currently sitting at $4, which is already a significant loss! granted, everything else is currently down too and in comparison telstra has faired pretty well! although apart from the odd bounce, telstra shares have consistently underperformed since the initial ipo, so 6 of one.

    but if they were to lose the nbn and the shares were to fall to $3 or less, that would be catastrophic for you, wouldn't it?

    so i can understand you desperation. so keep up the intelligence. lmfao

    $8 dollar shelf company - Terria Anonymous -- 10/11/08 (in reply to #320115935)

    What a joke piece to try & get some desperate attention!!

    Looks like the TerriaTryhards are getting even more desperate!!

    Yeah, it's a real joke Mel Sommersberg -- 10/11/08 (in reply to #320115950)

    You are right Mr Anonymous Troll. We do already know the score. Terria is doing its best to fit in and keep people happy. That is the job of the new boy on the block. On the other hand we have Telstra - off side with the unions, offside with the Government, offside with their employees and offside with the punters.

    We all do know this, quite right but unlike Telstra's propaganda, at least this article has some truthfulness to it.

    Most work will be done by contractors Free publicity anyone? -- 10/11/08

    What a joke, they are just looking for publicity. The unions will have very little direct dealings with Terria simply because most of the construction work will be done by contractors, service and support will be via external parties and sales / busienss development will be under individual contracts.

    contractors???????????? ned kelly -- 10/11/08 (in reply to #320115944)

    rofl, i thought that the contractors will build the nbn argument was used by terria supporters when told telstra are the only company who can build the nbn, not the other way around!

    i agree that terria have displayed a lack of commitment from day one. however, rather than telstras approach to fight with everyone at all costs (even their own employees) terria have taken the initiative to help *australian workers* by agreeing to a deal, at a time when telstra are outsourcing off shore.

    i for one applaud terria, even though i still wonder about their objectives.

    so regardless of whether you are a terria lover or hater, union lover or hater, any realistic person will surely applaud moves to keep jobs here in australia.

    unless of course, your own bottom line will be affected, that is?

    3 comments Anonymous -- 10/11/08 (in reply to #320115944)

    look 3 telstra rah rah comments above and they are all suspiciously similar. is that you x 3 sydney?

    Australia land of golden opportunity. Sydney Lawrence -- 10/11/08 (in reply to #320115961)

    Time to stop the silly games.

    Involved Unions get behind the Telstra NBN build bid. Co-operate with Telstra, tell the Rudd Government that you want Australian workers to be granted employment on the Telstra roll-out.

    Then negotiate with Telstra for excellent remuneration for your Members and demonstrate to the world what a great Australian company together with brilliant Australian workers can do.

    @Australia land of golden opportunity. Terry -- 10/11/08 (in reply to #320115964)

    "Then negotiate with Telstra for excellent remuneration for your Members and demonstrate to the world what a great Australian company together with brilliant Australian workers can do."

    Will this be similar remuneration to the current agreements (or lack thereof) that Telstra won't negotiate with unions over and it's workers are talking about taking industrial action on?

    @australia ned kelly -- 10/11/08 (in reply to #320115964)

    ah sydney, the unions *were* trying to negotiate with telstra but *telstra refused*. let me repeat that *telstra refused*.

    they had their chance but now terria have stolen their thunder. this puts a whole new complexion on the nbn with tens of thousands of union members now perhaps changing theri allegiances.

    oh well, i'm sure telstra knows best hey sydney

    NED - The moron leading the blind ! Anonymous -- 10/11/08 (in reply to #320115974)

    "With Tens of thousands of union members now perhaps changing their allegiances."

    Your unbelievable !
    News flash, Terria is a hollow pretence, an $8 dollar shelf company of a charade, whose members are withdrawing one by one.

    And this is who your threatening Telstra union members will flock to !!! Wow I bet Telstra is really scared now !!

    This is champagne comedy at its best.

    No wonder union membership is rapidly declining.

    Ned lives. Sydney Lawrence -- 11/11/08 (in reply to #320115980)

    Ned I find it somewhat hard to believe that a great Australian patriot like yourself could be fooled by the deceitful Terria.

    Should the Government and your good-self be so fooled and Terria be granted the NBN we will see huge financial distress for the Australian taxpayer.

    Also Ned, and I know you will not condone this happening, those Australian workers who hope for employment by Terria will be devastated as the Terria mirage disintegrates and collapses.

    Ned far be it from me to advise an Australian icon and legend but I think for the children you should moderate the language a bit. But I suppose Ned you would tell me "such is life".

    @Ned lives. Terry -- 11/11/08 (in reply to #320116012)

    "Should the Government and your good-self be so fooled and Terria be granted the NBN we will see huge financial distress for the Australian taxpayer.

    Also Ned, and I know you will not condone this happening, those Australian workers who hope for employment by Terria will be devastated as the Terria mirage disintegrates and collapses."

    No offense when I say this Sydney but you do post a lot of Telstra propaganda, so do you have anything to backup your claims that should Telstra not win the NBN bid that it will cost the Australian taxpayer and that the successful bidders plan will fall to pieces?

    Truth will out. Sydney Lawrence -- 11/11/08 (in reply to #320116030)

    Terry, wait and see.

    oh and syd Black Beard the Pirate... YARRR! -- 11/11/08 (in reply to #320116050)

    Ned Kelly, great aussie icon that he is, robbed corporations and other big faceless business's... thats why he became a legend, 1 man sticking it to everything thats greedy and wrong... so i spose its only natural that he not like telstra?

    Hey Sydney... timesaver! -- 11/11/08 (in reply to #320116064)

    Just wondering if you'd be interested in taking some web programming lessons? not thats theres anything wrong with your current comp skills, its just that, with a little extra knowledge, you could write some code that will auto completesyour comment box with qoutes direct from NWAT... think of the time you'll save!

    hey moron Anonymous -- 11/11/08 (in reply to #320116065)

    perhaps you could do likewise form the tttt, smart arse.

    @oh and syd ned kelly -- 11/11/08 (in reply to #320116064)

    yes i hate telstra ... and optus and iinet and terria and the rest of the grubs.

    i'm not fussy I hate them all, especially one eyed ****heads like you, black beard. ROFL.

    YARRR! Black Beard the Pirate -- 11/11/08 (in reply to #320116081)

    Yo ho ho! and a bol of rum!!! yarrrr that will keep me nicely while i ride out the NBN bid process!

    Who refused to discuss the EA?? annoyed CEPU member soon to be ex member -- 14/11/08 (in reply to #320115974)

    You may wish to retract the "telstra refused" comment ned.
    Telstra walked away after trying for almost 2 months to discuss an EA with the CEPU but all the CEPU wanted to talk about were an MOU and a CRA (at the request of the ACTU by the way, not it's members) which would have been basically illegal and locked Telstra out of the NBN bidding process.

    ahaha! BlackBeard! -- 15/11/08 (in reply to #320116318)

    You've been reading the telstra press releases as well! though i must say, it seems we have taken different paths on the interpretation (scuse the misspelling) though... where you have taken the Yes Telstra approach , i chose to take the, uhh yeah, cause telstra is just such an open and honest/accountable company this must all be true approach, in other words, telstra blowing it out there a*s again

    @who refused ned kelly -- 23/11/08 (in reply to #320116318)

    no i will not retract.

    stop the bs, stop slinging the telstra pr and get educated.

    *basically illegal*. no you cant have something which is basically illegal. it is either illegal or it isn't illegal. so since the document was backed by the dep p.m, i would suggest its legal, so again do some homework.

    thing was the cepu said to telstra we believe its legal, but we will and they did, send it for a once over with the government, to allay telstras concerns. but telstra decided to pull the plug anyway. funny, now the unions have sided with terria, telstra have again made an issue of it and are crying, we've been *betrayed*. priceless!

    so enough bs and feel free to be an ex cepu member. the cepu probably dont need members like you, who only look at one side of the story and then make assumptions on that one slanted view.

    good luck, when telstra send your job overseas and you are alone, high and dry, ex cepu member. lmfao

    free northern ireland mrs fajita paprika papya trujillo -- 14/11/08

    the union should help irish catholics be free from british occupation in northern ireland. and they should also make telstra give all their workers $75 000 a year plus a super and car :D plus a 70 million dollar bonus for sol trujillo the greatest man that ever lived! sol you'd understand the problem in northern ireland cause you're catholic.

    Go Terria! Sydney Lawrence -- 29/11/08 (in reply to #320116281)

    Now that Terria has finally told the truth and faded away what will happen to the millions of unionists they signed up?

    lol syd joe -- 29/11/08 (in reply to #320117504)

    1st comment i read of the day, (sat morning btw)...they didnt sign up any unionists, they had an agreement with CEPU or who ever it was, that if they did hire people they could have the option of been union and that they were entilted to certain working conditions, negoitiated by union, even before it had any memebers...

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