Telstra must be separated, says 2020 Summit

The recently published 2020 summit Final Report has recommended that the government looks seriously into the separation of its national fibre-to-the-node (FTTN) provider, echoing repeated calls by rival telcos to break up Telstra if it wins the national broadband network tender.

The suggestions were introduced in the Future Directions for the Australian Economy group, co-chaired by Treasurer Wayne Swan and including Finance Minister Lindsey Tanner. Proposals on changes to Australian infrastructure were canvassed and voted on at the summit, with the nation having an "open-access national broadband platform, with retail arm separated" being one receiving the most support, according to the Final Report.

"Government should assess the case for vertical separation of the network owner from retail carriers and carriage service providers to promote access," the report says.

Ovum telecommunications analyst David Kennedy said that, should the recommendation have any effect, it would encourage the government towards separation, but added that the Labor party had already shown it is willing to consider some form of separation requirement for the tender.

He said that the recommendation only counts if Telstra wins, since other bidders have already placed a separation condition on themselves. "If Telstra does win, my expectation is that there will be a lot of lobbying the government for separation," he said.

Putting a separation condition on the national fibre-to-the-node network tender has been championed by FTTN bidder Terria, formerly the G9, with the group recently launching an online petition encouraging the public to sign up and back its separation proposal to the Federal government.

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    Wreck Australia Policy Sydney Lawrence -- 10/06/08

    The devious attempt by Telstra opponents to destroy Telstra and promote themselves continues.

    If the Government is so easily persuaded by those who are in opposition to Telstra then I hope they allow for the huge payouts that will be necessary for compensation toT3 investors who had no warning that a harmful break-up of Telstra was planned.

    2020 Gabfest Lord Watchdog -- 10/06/08 (in reply to #320103758)

    Sydney, I wouldn't worry too much about anything coming out of the 2020 gabfest. Everyone that participated in it represents the creme dela creme of the nation's imbeciles.

    What would a bunch of university academics and actresses know about planning for the future of Australia? They are either confined to a socio-economic bracket that isn't affected by the things that matter in society or they don't live in Australia anyway. All these idiots do is talk crap and Kevin Rudd tried to bignote himself as the creator of something that looked like never succeeding from day one. All that bloke does is create summits, working parties, steering committees and waffle on about republicanism and hybrid cars.

    I am sure that seperation of Telstra as the elitist 2020 gabfest want it will never happen because KRudd is a man of style over substance.

    With this in mind we will both sleep well tonight.

    We wait and see. Sydney Lawrence -- 11/06/08 (in reply to #320103766)

    Lord Watchdog. Never in my entire life have I read a situational description of such intense passion and honesty as your above Post.

    As a Kevin Rudd supporter I would be confounded and saddened if our Government did act, without merit, on the suggestions of people whom you rightly describe.

    All we can do Lord Watchdog is watch, wait, have our input, and see how history unfolds in Australia. I do agree with you Kevin must shape up or ship out.

    Your full of S**t LW Jack Simpson -- 11/06/08 (in reply to #320103766)

    Lord Watchdog how do you think things happen in this country. They don't just think up something and do it. It has to be tabled publicly and debated. Otherwise the detractors such as yourself have a big whinge about lack of public consultation and classify it as a failure when the process has just started. Poor, poor you. Did you have your say in the 2020 publicly available submission process? I bet not. Probably spent the time thinking up a supercool name like Lord Watchdog then felt yourself up a bit as a reward.
    I am not a member of the creme you mention but they at least gave their time and opinion in a positive way you tool.

    Settle petal Lord Watchdog -- 11/06/08 (in reply to #320103854)

    Jack,

    "I am not a member of the creme you mention but they at least gave their time and opinion in a positive way you tool."

    I don't call a situation where the Prime Minister calls together an exclusive group of idiots a positive move. Granted, many of the people who attended the 2020 gabfest nominated themselves but I think that even you aren't stupid enough to think that these people had any say in the outcomes, which were summarised and reported to the Prime Minister by the likes of Cate Blanchett. After all, that is the role of a chairman, isn't it.

    "Otherwise the detractors such as yourself have a big whinge about lack of public consultation and classify it as a failure when the process has just started."

    The 2020 gabfest did not result in one positive outcome as far as I can see. Please list the ones that I missed out on and I am sure that people will consider your own input into this debate a little more constructively than they do now, since your input to date amounts to childish character assassinations and name-calling.

    Jack, whilst my own experiences with Telstra in the years I was a subscriber have seldom left me hanging to resign with them, breaking Telstra up is the last thing I want to see. Many people here speak of Telstra as a large Australian company and regardless of what others, including myself, regard as faults, that is exactly what Telstra is and should continue to be, a large majority Australian-owned company, something that is becoming a rare commodity Australia for a variety of reasons.

    If telstra is broken up it will result in the pieces that remain being gulped up by larger foreign-owned companies like British Telecom, Deutsch Telecom and AT&T.

    It is interesting to note that those asking for a break-up of Telstra never say why they want it and how they expect to benefit from it. This is because there is no possible way a country with a small population can possibly compete with the rest of the world on that scale.

    In the mean time, you could do with a cold shower mate.

    Just over 1 year later Thomas K -- 16/09/09 (in reply to #320103766)

    And we see Conroy suggesting to Telstra that they should seperate wholesale from retail; sure there is the carrot of additional spectrum sales and stick of legislation. Substance (Rudd) over style (Howard - put it in the too hard basket, get "mum and pop" to invest in company that almost has a monoply on state funded infrastructure, while screwing the consumer lack of real competition due to the massive outlay of infrastructure cost, let along telstra dragging it feet on everything).

    This should have been done at privatisation; we would have had 10+ years to get it right.

    Breakup Telstra Anonymous -- 11/06/08 (in reply to #320103758)

    Well I hope you're right and that Telstra is destroyed, its way past its time and holding the rest of the country back. From Telstra's own position, the compensation should be minimal. They positioned a management buyout last year but there were no takers even at zero cost. As the Aust Govt is still a majority shareholder, they should take up the management buyout offer at zero value.

    Conroy... Anonymous -- 11/06/08

    Of course you both realise Senator Stephen Conroy was apart of that vote. Now, I can't speak for which way he went, but I do think he may have just a little sway with his own opinion. You know, considering his position and all.

    ...I could be wrong...

    Seperate now Anonymous -- 11/06/08

    the only way foward regardless of FTTN is to seperate Telstra. the network suffers and so do customers services because too many corners are cut to save a dollar. I mean Telstra techs are using plastic bags in some cases to try and fix service faults at this time. I can only imagine how they are likely to look arfter the fibre if they build it? if a pay out is required to T3 investors then so be it. selling the local loop at least was the biggest mistake the Howard Government ever made. Unless seperation is made Telstra will certainly be hholding all the cards once again and that is the last thing this country needs.

    Whats the issue? Anonymous -- 11/06/08

    I fail to see the issue with separating it.
    The FTTN is supposed to be a new network, so there should be no issue with whoever wins the contract to be a separate entity. It certainly should never have been factored into the T3 shareprice.

    I for one would welcome it. The "local loop" should never have been sold with Telstra. It has allowed them to put a stranglehold on competition, especially in new estates where they happily use RIM technology, effectively stopping anyone putting in a competitive network.

    If you're in doubt, check out the difference in offering on ADSL1 vs ADSL2. ADSL1 can ONLY be provisioned via Telstra. ADSL2 can only be provisioned by someone with equipment. I'm only 20k out of the city, but can only get ADSL1 thanks to Telstra.

    Attack of the nerds Sydney Lawrence -- 12/06/08

    Lord Watchdog you certainly hit a painful nerve with Jack (why do I think of Nicholson) LOL.

    Some Posters certainly are in dreamworld but still Lord Watchdog as is said "If ignorance is bliss, tis folly to be wise.

    It's a bit like that Lord Watchdog -- 12/06/08 (in reply to #320103935)

    The ones that take angry pills are usually the ones that follow links here from my own website - sometimes things are a bit more hardcore there than ZDNet would allow here.

    Most of the time I laugh when someone blows their stack because all this should be is a mild-mannered debate.

    No to Separation Malcolm -- 12/06/08

    I fail to see how "breaking" a great Australian company like Telstra can be for the good of the Nation.

    I question the motives behind this push in the Media (like foreign owned companies like OPTUS) and what them & only them stand to gain???

    NATIONALISATION Nuclear Proliferator -- 13/06/08

    In all honesty, I am in favour of a government buyback of Telstra, as well as the National Power Grid, power stations, maybe even the Commonwealth Bank. What is so wrong with State Ownership of these things? Why should we bend to the long arm of the World Bank, WTO, IMF, G8 and all the rest. I would even support us leaving the non-proliferation treaty and constructing a nuclear capability. Australia is very vulnerable, with many resources, no standing army, and a 'lame duck' ally in the USA. If China decided to annexe Australia, the USA could do nothing. An armaments and manufacturing/engineering industry is needed in Australia. I am sorry to say these things, but we, as dutiful citizens, cannot sit by and watch these governments - Rudd/Howard, same thing - sell our country from under our feet.

    Australia must now endeavour to go alone, remove ourselves from the UN, ASEAN, ANZUS, OECD - all of them. And encourage other nations to follow. Globalisation and Internationalism is killing people the world over.

    Isolationism and protectionist policies are a must under a new Republic, as well as nuclear capabilities.

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