Telstra doubles Next G speeds

By Jo Best, ZDNet Australia
25 September 2007 11:25 AM
Tags: next g, card, broadband, access, wireless, telstra, downlink, speed

update Telstra has doubled the speed users can expect on its Next G mobile network, with the launch of new hardware capable of a theoretical maximum downlink of 7.2Mbps.

According to the telco, users will now be able to expect typical download speeds of between 550Kbps and 3Mbps, increasing to up to 6Mbps in some CBD and metro areas. Typical upload speeds will also rise, to between 300Kbps and 1Mbps.

Telstra today debuted new laptop data cards designed to take advantage of the faster speeds, in both ExpressCard and USB form, to be sold under the BigPond Wireless Broadband 7.2 and Telstra Mobile Turbocard brands.

"There's now not much to distinguish between wireless and wired networks," Justin Milne, BigPond group MD, said.

Telstra's fastest wired network -- its cable offering in Melbourne and Sydney -- now reaches 30Mbps. However, the telco plans to break the wired speed limit with Next G before the end of the decade, and is targeting a downlink in the region of 40Mbps by 2009.

The network is scheduled to see a further increase in uplink speeds within the next 12 months, to a maximum of 5.8Mbps.

Existing Next G users with data cards capable of a top speed of 3.6Mbps will be able to keep their devices and upgrade it, via the BigPond Web site, to the faster downlink. Similar software upgrades for Next G mobile users will be available soon, the telco said.

There are now over one million users on the Next G network, Telstra says. Data cards remain one of the company's best earners, generating an ARPU (average revenue per user) of over AU$100 per month.

Telstra also announced today further extensions of its 3G coverage, with Next G now available in the towns of Cradle Mountain and Marble Bar, as well as onboard the Spirit of Tasmania I and II ferries.

Talkback 24 comments

    You again Jonathan -- 25/09/07 (in reply to #320086696)

    If you want to post something that is of any value do so, if you want to act like a dic% &head then your resume will slowly make it's way onto this site.

    So Jonathon Rex Alfie Lee -- 25/09/07 (in reply to #320086719)

    "If you want to post something that is of any value do so, if you want to act like a dic% &head then your resume will slowly make it's way onto this site."

    Now it's the pot calling the kettle black.

    Who's the tool now, Jonathon?

    Spoiled brat as a child? Steve Davies -- 25/09/07 (in reply to #320086722)

    Rex you lodge posts on this and several other sites with one common element. No value, irrational and profanities. I agree with Jonathan (I can spell his name) as to wanting to see you and other losers booted from these sites.

    Let's petition zdnet to make each person register and show a basic profile so we know these people and what their true motives are. I have gotten to know what to expect from many of the people who show their names and you are one of the select few who regularly use irrational temper tantrums to try and push a point across and who end up embarrassing themselves.

    I have bought a next g card and can upgrade to 7.2 down and 384 up, I knew this when I bought is and was happy to live with that speed for the next 18 months but as I travel the country I would have been happy with just replacing the CDMA speed as long as it has the same coverage ... it does and more.

    The Spirit of Tasmania ferry? Anonymous -- 25/09/07

    "Telstra has also announced a further upgrade of its Next G network to include remote regions of Western Australia and Tasmania, including The Spirit of Tasmania ferry."

    There's going to be a cell _on_ the ferry?

    care factor? Rick -- 25/09/07

    "Today there is now very little to distinguish between the speed of a wireless and a wired broadband service," Telstra BigPond group managing director Justin Milne said.

    Price will distinguish the two services quite well I'd have thought.

    Whats the point Anonymous -- 25/09/07

    Whats the point of having good download spped when Telstra have such pathetically small download limits.

    So now get my email 10 times faster. Thats nice.

    Get real Telstra.

    I would be nice if they informed you of new hardware. Paul -- 25/09/07

    I have only just purchased a new express card from telstra as a business client and not once did they mention a new card that was capable of faster speeds. All in the name of a sale hey Telstra!

    new hardware Anonymous -- 26/09/07 (in reply to #320086727)

    I work for Telstra Business and have confirmation that we are bringing out (some already available) software that updates your existing pc-cards so that they are also capable of new speeds/applications.

    new hardware Anonymous -- 28/09/07 (in reply to #320086795)

    So are you saying that every single Next G PC card that Telstra has sold since Day 1 is capable of s/w upgrade to 7.2 Mpbs?

    Sure some can, but ALL of them?

    You could get sued if you're not careful.

    new hardware Anonymous -- 28/09/07 (in reply to #320086931)

    Not every device has a chipset that can be upgraded.

    How can an individual who is posting a comment and happens to mention they work for a certain company be sued? I would reward their honesty before your nitpicking and concealing your agenda.

    This is your second post in minutes hinting that what is said is illegal. You don't happen to work for the same company that tried to sue whirlpool a couple of weeks ago?

    data cards Tom Booth -- 01/10/07 (in reply to #320086931)

    every single data card released by telstra on next g is upgradeable. All you need to do is go into the big pond connection manager and hit check for updates that simple. I did it and get speed of 3200kbps on zdnets broadband speed test.
    SUper good. The new card only change the upload speed which probable wont present an issue for the majority of users

    Expensive shauno -- 26/09/07

    My mate in Singapore has similar speeds through Starhub but he pays $36 Sing a month for unlimited down loads. We get ripped off in Aus.

    get real Sajit -- 26/09/07 (in reply to #320086741)

    my cousin in India earns around $55 per week, does that mean we should earn that as well? Every country has a different population and land mass, in the case of singapore they also have australia subsidising them via singtel profits and $1b in grants to opel. you are also talking about wifi and not mobile, he can not easily roam across towers and is a shared public frequency.

    Wrong shauno -- 26/09/07 (in reply to #320086770)

    No mate I'm based out of Singapore so fully aware of whats available. Its not Wifi its a Hspa card in his laptop.

    You will never read this on these anti-Telstra sites Anonymous -- 27/09/07

    Telstra Wins at the First Global Telecoms Business Innovation Awards

    The first ever Global Telecoms Business Innovation Awards were presented in London on the evening of September 17 2007.

    Telstra won the IT innovation award, specifically recognizing Telstra's IT transformation projects, mostly undertaken in Australia.

    You armchair experts might hate Telstra but the real experts seem to think the other way!!!

    Coverage still an issue Anonymous -- 27/09/07

    Remote coverage is still an issue even with NextG ... Telstra keep uping the coverage and speeds in the city, but have failed miserably to cover rural areas.

    And what is the deal with getting the Chinese company, ZTE, to make all of their branded NextG phones and datacards, but then forget to get them all with "Rural" coverage built in. Example: I was recently flobbed off by Telstra for 4 months after needing a robust ruggeredised mobile phone - Telstra's answer as the ZTE 158 - but after waiting 4 months for this phone, we were then told that it was only good in city areas? What's the friggin point?

    Lift your game Telstra, and stop telling everyone that NextG is the answer, when it is only part of the solution.

    Confused?? Anonymous -- 27/09/07

    I'm confused (not the first time). A few months ago at the Panasonic Toughbook launch in Melbourne, Telstra announced their Next-G platform was upgraded (the night before) to 14.4mbps. Now they are saying it is "upgraded" to 7.2mbps??

    Did I miss something?

    Network compared to devices Anonymous -- 27/09/07 (in reply to #320086856)

    The Telstra network can deliver 14.4Mbps but they are so far ahead of device manufacturers that devices could only function at 1.8Mbps or 3.6Mbps, now a number of devices can work on 7.2Mbps.

    The network has plenty of headroom for future device releases and Telstra already stated that by the time manufacturers catch up with the network's capability they would have increased the capability to around 40Mbps.

    It is nice to know that they are planning ahead, so far ahead that the rest of the world is playing catchup.

    Network compared to devices Anonymous -- 28/09/07 (in reply to #320086884)

    Dear Telstra apologist,

    If there are no 14.4 Mbps devices, then how can Telstra test it's alleged 14.4 Mbps network? If Telstra can't test it with real devices and prove that it works, then it cannot make the claim.

    Also, how many sites have transmission to them capable of supporting 14.4 Mbps? All of them? Again, if not, Telstra could be in breach of the Trade Practices Act.

    Be careful of making claims that can't be supported in the marketplace.

    Testing in marketplace Anonymous -- 28/09/07 (in reply to #320086930)

    Deat Telstra hater,

    What you are saying is no because no devices have been approved for use on the Telstra network has a throughput of 14.4Mbps then the network itself is not capable?

    Telstra invested in a huge amount in R&D in conjunction with Alcatel to make the dramatic improvements possible, this is technology that not only upstaged device manufacturers but also every other telecommunications company on the world.

    From publicly available information you will know that Telstra switched on HSDPA on around 5000 base stations and didn't announce the upgrade to 14.4Mbps until they had done it to all base stations, the other telco's have switched on 1.8Mbps and 3.6Mbps on only a handful of base stations in high population metro areas and even if they do eventually switch it on every base station they would still not cover 50% of the land mass that Telstra has.

    I am sure the way the ACCC scrutinises everything Telstra if they breached the TPA in relation to this then they would have been hung out to dry by now. Think about it, they will take Telstra to court for a couple of words in a marketing campaign that would never have been noticed if it wasn't for another telco or government lawyer feeding the ACCC directions.

    All that was said is the plain and simple truth, anyone who is not hell bent on ruining Telstra's name by any method would know this is the case.

    Read my questions Anonymous -- 19/10/07 (in reply to #320086938)

    Interesting you didn't actually answer my questions.

    There are no 14.4Mbps devices available today from any manufacturer. Period. This has nothing to do with 14.4 devices being "approved" for use on NextG. The fact is there aren't any 14.4 devices at all.

    So I repeat - if there are no 14.4 devices, how did Telstra prove its network delivers 14.4?

    And you didn't answer my second question - how many NextG base stations have transmission into them capable of carrying 14.4 Mbps back into the fixed network?

    There's no point having software in the network theoretically capable of 14.4 Mbps if the base station is connected to the fixed network with a piece of string.

    Perhaps you didn't answer my questions because you know exactly what the answers are.

    If Telstra is so bad Anonymous -- 01/10/07

    Winner - Best Broadband Supplier, 2007 Australian Telecoms Awards

    Winner - Best Wireless Broadband, 2007 Australian Personal Computer Internet Technology Awards

    Winner - Internet Technology of the Year, 2007 Australian Personal Computer Internet Technology Awards

    faster at the expense of coverage Anonymous -- 03/10/07

    You can get these speads only if you take command of the base station at the expense of every other user. The WDCMA standards allow such a scenario to exist only if you get allocated all the orthogonal (PN) codes and spread spectrum codes.

    And if you are lucky and you do get them, what happens in your "mobile" environment when you get handed over to another base station - your rate gets drastically reduced.

    Getting full allocation is often avoided as the base power requirements are so high they can cause nearby phones to think they can't get coverage - sounds familiar.

    Coverage not the issue? Mike Worthington -- 12/10/07 (in reply to #320087136)

    I have been using the NextG data card for a few months now and everywhere I have been I have had excellent coverage with 100% signal, but at peak times of the day I get virtually zero bandwith, ie 'Page cannot be displayed'. In the same locations at off peak times it works ok. Am I the only one to experience this?

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