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cdam thoretically will give 50-60 klm of range (no hills house or trees). next g will give 36klm only theoreticaly.the problem is next g suffers from shrinkage from the amount of users at full capacity 15klm of range. the 3g the one currently used by every network world wide 26klm of range and shrinkage at full capcity 18 klms.
so if you live between two next g towers in and a 18 klms of range you will have no nextg coverage telstra cant overlap there coverage as efectivley due to the shrinkage problem. next g is fine at the moment but you will get more black spots and more drop out compared with 3g coverage.
also they are both digital coverage so they will be affected by weather and so on unlike cdma.
telstras new fibre optic cables for land lines will be so expensive so they can have a lot more next g coverage paid for by all
Isn't it just like Telstra
The CDMA network was introduced in place of the original Analogue network in the country as the GSM network would never have delivered the range required.
Now the thought of replacing it with 3G seems odd as there has never been a suggestion that 3G has more range than GSM ????????.
So are the country people to suffer further?
Our Community Assosciation invited the local manager of Telstra Countrywide to a meeting in our local community hall, only 10 km from Canberra, to discuss the abysmal GSM service provided to our rural area. He said that Telstra was in the process of phasing out GSM in all non-urban areas and recommended CDMA to all non-urban phone users.
Certainly my CDMA phone that I bought soon after has been a revelation - I drive long distances often and now have coverage wherever I go.
I just signed a two year contract for a Telstra wireless broadband card - broadband where there is coverage, and falling back to CDMA where there is no broadband. Telstra's Bigpond site boasts this "covers 98% of Australia's population". Will I still be able to use it in 2 years? If not, I want my money back!
If telstra has put you on contract and are unable to keep the contract biding, they must legally give your full contract aggreement money back
Consumers must remember that it was an ill advised decision by the government to shut down the very effecient analogue network, after all you could only make phone calls on it and Telstra was making money.
Beware - yes, CDMA is "plain Jane" but it does its most important job - coverage. No other system comes near it for range (OK - old analague excepted).
What farmers & other bush users want is COVERAGE - never mind the bells & whilstles.
If the new systems can't match the range, country pollies will stop them dead in their tracks - never underestimate the political clout of the bush, where people often know and talk to their local member.
Beware - yes, CDMA is "plain Jane" but it does its' most important job - coverage. No other system comes near it for range (OK - old analogue excepted).
What farmers & other bush users want is COVERAGE - never mind the bells & whilstles.
If the new systems can't match the range, country pollies will stop them dead in their tracks - never underestimate the political clout of the bush, where people often know and talk to their local member.
I think most people in the country expected to get shafted from telstra after it was privitised. Apparently it is not going to take that long.
Telstra is building a UMTS 850 network, which will have the same footprint, maybe even greater than that of CDMA (the processing gain of UMTS gives it significantly greater range at the same transmit power, at the same frequency). The problem as everyone saw it was trying to build a UMTS 2100 network in the bush, this indeed would not work.
The other problem is that UMTS 850 is a largely untested technology, but UMTS in general is now fairly stable, and it wont be long before UMTS 850 is as stable as the 2100MHz equivalent.
I have just had the company I work for fit all the vessels with CDMA wireless setups for emailing and internet. The systems work great. So if 3G comes in and CDMA gose out are they going to drop 3G buoys all over the ocean. I thing not.
I am on line through CDMA modem 65 miles of the coast as I type this.
With many equipment providers ceasing their production of CDMA gear I personally believe that Telstra will be closing their CDMA network, but it will take some time to get 3G everywhere and the network will be in marketing limbo until then - their wireless broadband CDMA product (RTT 1x and EVDO) will not do the job for "always on" connections as there is a limit to the number of subscribers at any one time and they must use charging as an incentive to get them off the network. As for GSM, they will be killing off a lot of overseas roaming. I expect that CDMA & GSM will be around for a while, but on the books to get rid of soon.
As for distance, forget it. Telstra will cover the towns and key highways. It would take 10+ expensive base stations ($3-500k each) just to cover the bulk of the users on a single CDMA or GSM base station. It is likely that we will see Telstra leave that to the others who wish to stay with GSM.
Bottom line is that Telstra will be forced to close CDMA or import secondhand gear to keep it operational.
why cain't someone supply us with a phone service for just that making phone calls the more **** thay put in the more it stuffs up and cain't even make phone calls sometimes I wonder why I even bother it would be quicker with a pigion
I have just recently purchased a CDMA phone and signed a 2 year contract as the GSM phone won't work at home. This is just one of the many dead spots in this City of Bathurst. A friend went to buy a CDMA on tuesday and was told at the Telstra shop that the CDMS network would be closed down in stages over the next 3 years. Thanks Telstra. Once again you have shown your total contempt to the country people.
The CDMA network is old news, old technology. why keep this old technology in when we only need to improve the new gsm or 3g network to get benifits. buying a new 3g phone won;t be expansive, interest free finance and cheap handsets won;t effect people. if you have that one less beer and packet of ciggy's, the new handset will be easy to buy..
"Well, here's another fine mess you've gotten us into Olie".
As one who travels in the country as well as living in the city of Sydney, CDMA is the only system that provides me with coverage in most places I go.
With the closure of analogue I went to GSM, travelled up the New England Hwy and into Queensland. After 3 days I found it was so hopeless that I threw the new GSM handset at a wall. Telstra took me over to CDMA at no charge.
CDMA WORKS....
Now if you want a real scare.... place a transmitting GSM handset in the cradle of your white Telstra "flat" phone whilst talking on the land line. The digital rubbish it transmits is amazing. Do the same with a CDMA handset and it's as quiet as a mouse.
I know which system I'd prefer when the gizmo is placed beside my skull!
Oh well, I guess there's always the Orange (Hutchison) CDMA network.
It should be noted that Telstra are still selling CDMA phones even though they plan to scrap the network. Is this ethical?
Ethics....Telstra....Dont be stupid Telstra management has no ethics just plenty of profit$ in its eyes!
makes sense because the CDMA network still give superior coverage in regional and rural areas. So for the next 18 motnhs or so, those handsets and wireless broadband modems etc will be operational. When the CDMA network closes, obviously Telstra will have to and free upgrades to 3G/GSM alternatives.
Telstra has brought the closure of it's CDMA network to Jan 2008.
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Re Telstra thinking about closing the CDMA system and moving over to a 3G system - will this effect the excellent operation range from transmition towers that we have now under CDMA the system? Does 3G have a similar better effective range without calls dropping out?