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Get ya hand of your #$%# you Dullard!
ever wondered why so many people are so anti-telstra, telstra tard?
maybe you should think about it, before showing us all what a nobend you are.
Dullard. Go to whingepool with all the other Anti-Telstra Whingers!
You'll be at home there choking the chook ****!
there stupid, you just answered my question. this and you are why people hate telstra, telstra tard. ha
but why don't you put your name to your telstra tard crap anymore, we all know who you are sydney.
Please gentleman (women) have a little respect for yourselves.
The great and glorious Australian company, which is Telstra, will assist the Rudd Government to make communication in Australian world class.
Why do the Anti Telstra Circus continue the disparagement of Australia's favourite telco when it is obvious they do so for their own pathetic self serving interests.
Those who defend Telstra do so, in the vast majority of cases, to protect an Australian company who is under attack from others (mostly foreign controlled) and to strengthen their homeland, Australia.
Welcome back Mr. Lawrence IF (ignorant and foolish - as admitted by you). Back more ignorant and foolish than ever.
Phew you had us worried, we thought you'd fallen off the edge of your Telstra (the world is flat) world!
But I see, most ironically and humorously, you have done exactly as I said you would, lol.
Promised to answer a question (even though you knew your answer would make you look even more foolish then usual, if that is possible), thought, hmmm and didn't actually answer, went missing for almost a fortnight, then reappeared citing the same disgracefully, greedy lies about Telstra MD (misleading and deceptive) as if nothing had happened. Again, exactly as I said you would.
You don't get off that easy. So again (SINCE YOU PROMISED) -
Is TelstraClear NZ leeches for accessing Telecom's network? Yes or No?
Plus I see NWAT (Never Whinge About Telstra) hasn't been updated since the 28/8 (8 days). Still don't think it's on it's way out, lol?
Or is it a competition between NWAT and Mr. Lawrence to see who can hide their lies the longest?
RS, after deep and analytical study and research in a serious endeavour to honestly answer your reasonable question, it is my melancholy duty to inform you that considering the vastly differing aspects of rules and regulation, and the vastly contrast differential in the topography involved it is not possible to answer your question in the affirmative.
Your reference to my tardy reply has been caused by a short holiday in Cairns and Port Douglas which was most enjoyable. While there my expectations were confirmed by all who I conversed with, that (in North Queensland) the superior service provider was Telstra and Next G was the prefered product.
Please understand that my inability to present you with a definite answer to your serious question does not reflect that you are wrong in your assumption, but simply, after consideration, I am not able to arrive at a definite conclusion or a certain answer.
Hello Mr. Lawrence.
After 13 days of analytical study, the best you can do is "I dunno", lol!
I see too, upon your return rather than answering the question you left in limbo before your break, you return with more of the same make believe "fake patriotism" to cover your greed, based around the wife's shares.
Mr. Lawrence, how can it be that although TelstraClear access Telecom's network in NZ, exactly the same as others do to Telstra's network here, that you are unable to reach a definitve conclusion in NZ (where your wife does not have shares) but here where she does have shares, your answer is absolute.
Telstra's competitors are leeches, you say!
Not only absolute, but a daily tirade calling them leeches even though the LAW clearly says they are doing no wrong. PROVING YOU ARE WRONG!
Then you call for Telstra's competitors to invest to compete. But what about TelstraClear investing to compete in NZ?
And what about Telstra here in Australia accessing (leeching) from Optus' D3 satellite? Why don't Telstra invest and launch their own?
Once again you prove that there is no rhyme or reason to your argument. There is one set of rules for Telstra and another for the rest according to you.
And why? Simply because of greed, based arond the Mrs. shares, despicable.
As such Mr. Lawrence, you are a disgrace.
Ooh what's happened to NWAT, lol!
Hi RS, while appreciating your correspondence, I am at a loss to understand why you bother to ask me a question when you obviously have the mental capacity to have the answer to every problem in the world yourself.
My answer to you was to the best of my ability considering my limited knowledge of overseas operations. Personally I am more focused and concerned with Australia than others who promote and support foreigners.
With respect, I do think you concentrate on the past when the situation here in Australia is changing with great rapidity. Mr Rudd, ably assisted by Senator Conroy and House Member Lindsay Tanner and champion Australian company, Telstra, will deliver and make every Australian, perhaps even yourself RS, proud to be an Aussie.
Mr. Lawrence IF, ID.
I am not at a loss to know why you blindly continue the irrational, biased charade - SHARES AND MONEY!
Being so, this is simply an exercise for me (one who can see good and bad in all companies) asking questions of you, for you to "hopefully" see your ridiculous Telstra inconsistencies.
Telstra and NWAT via your portfolio and deep seeded greed, have you brainwashed into believing Telstra are always perfect - even after admitting to be misleading and deceptive and you actually believe the drivel which you spew forth, I'm sure.
Inconsistencies that everyone else, except a few just like you (all with commonsense blinded by $ too) can see.
Ok since you want to claim Telstra opponents here to be leeches and TelstraClear not leeching in NZ (by gutlessly saying I dunno) and simply dodging the obvious, let's deal with Australia, as you wish.
Also we'll deal with Australia because you infer that you have much more knowledge domestically and are focussed upon Australia's comms, so let's see if this is so and if you can do better than a gutless I dunno, this time?
2 simple questions please - as you would never be so ignorant and foolish, blah, blah...
So after your NZ answer, even though the laws of this great land are there simply to ensure consumers aren't ripped of by a company who inherited a monopoly, do you still believe Telstra opponents are leeches here. Yes or no? Please no elaboration required, just a simple yes or no?
Will Telstra be leeches for accessing (in the future) Optus' D3 satellite, here in Australia? Yes or No? Please no elaboration required, just a simple yes or no?
Also not one comment about NWAT? NWAT is domestic or should I say "WAS", lol!
RS, did you not understand my last missive which explained to you that with the rapid change in the telecom scene in Australia it is now pointless to discuss past history.
With the Federal Government and Telstra now in serious negotiation, with an endeavour to secure a NBN for the nation, to continue a debate that no longer applies is pointless.
Referring to NWAT, as you well know, the facility was hijacked by disingenuous people whose only purpose was to attack Telstra with mischievous lies and unfair comment.
I do hope that NWAT continues as a forum of last resort for genuine complaints. I think such a facility would openly demonstrate Telstra's endeavour for customer satisfaction.
As Australians let us all refrain from personal vilification, have respect for all and allow our elected representatives to present their plan of solution for the proposed NBN.
It really is pontless to try to discuss anything with you rationally Mr. Lawrence IF, ID (ignorant and foolish - I dunno).
While ever you wife is a major shareholder in Telstra your answers will perpetually be tainted and frankly disgustingingly, greedily biased.
You will continue to disparage and demonise without cause or basis (and contrary to the laws of this great nation) Telstra's opponents, for your own financial agenda, lol!
Regardless of your gutless avoidance of my questions, the NBN is entirely different to Optus' D3 satellite which your 'misleading and deceptive" Telstra will be leeching from. Why do Telstra not invest in their own to compete in true competition and do so likewise in NZ, instead of leeching from, disparaging and demonising both Optus and Telecom for their own financial agendas. lol.
No they'd rather sit back and rake in the cream by depending on their "taxpayer inherited monopoly PSTN"!
As for NWA (no longer) T. It was hijacked by disgraceful greed driven individuals like yourself, Massonic and Dias.
Greedy fools who knew/know nothing of comms and even though they lived and breathed share greed, didn't actually even understand those either lol. As demonstrated by foolish Mr. Massonic, who didn't even understand what ex-dividend actually is.
You commented there daily to praise Telstra for absolutely everything, from selling out Aussie jobs, to paying the Tijuana Trio, ridiculous amounts "against your fellow shareholders wishes".
Then along came people sick of the sycophantic drivel of you 3, opiniated fools and provided both comms facts and share market info.
So what has NWAT now done? They have saved you uneducated greedy shareholders from further embarrassment, by shutting up shop, lol! Exactly as I said, they would, weeks ago.
You TLS shareholders have proven what a dopey bunch of no hopers you are. Share market corrections and crashes are the opportunity to sell out of underperforming stocks like Telstra and to buy into other stocks at rock bottom prices. But you fools didn't do so.
For example you could have sold Telstra at $3.00 and bought say Flight Centre at $3.40 just months ago. TLS is now $3.28 (still below their '97 IPO price, lol) and FLT is now $13.30. But you were too stupid.
So you keep doing your daily rounds of chat lines telling your Telstra shareytales, hoping one day they will reach $4.00 - still $3.40 less than you paid at T2, suckers!
RS you still do not recognise and understand the Australian trait of standing by your mates and maintaining your beliefs even when times are tough.
You should start by reading the history of Anzac Cove and of the young Australians who never gave an inch in spite of insurmountable odds. Or read the history of our VC winners who stood tall and gave their all for Australia.
You speak of financial gain from investment and use this to denigrate your opponents. Shame on you RS you present a devious phantom case.
Money may be your God but it is certainly not mine and I will not sell my country down the drain for it.
Thank you for your advice to abandon an Australian company for personal gain but unlike you I am no financial mercenary whose greed outweighs their principles. Your call for the destruction of an Australian company for your own personal financial advancement is very sad and should be condemned by all.
Having said that, I would never sink to the degrading depths of sickening traitor-ism for capital gain and I would not degrade opponents but, in true Aussie spirit would wish them well, to compete in a manner expected in a free enterprise and open Australian system.
Tell me RS do you still call for the breakup and dismantling of Telstra with confiscation of Telstra plant and equipment? Do you still demand that Telstra opponents be allowed to use Telstra facilities at a price below cost? Do you still demand that Telstra be forced to sell its holding in Foxtel? Do you still demand that Telstra be banned from inclusion in NBN?
Do you not understand that Telstra is 1,400,000 Aussie mums and dads who struggled to purchase an Australian company?
I could go on but I think your mirage of smoke and mirrors is exposed for the phantom deception that it is. It is said that if you throw enough mud some will stick and this was the basis for your plan to destroy Telstra. But RS you underestimate (as many of Australia's opponents have) the intelligence of the Australian people who see through your selfish little plot.
RS, while I am exceptionally gratified by your reference to me as a MAJOR shareholder in Telstra I must confess to you that your expressions are far from accurate.
While it is true that my portfolio does contain some Telstra shares sadly and with despair I must tell you they are far from MAJOR.
Every best wish, faithfully, as always. Carol Lawrence.
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner Sydney. Couldn't stop laughing at the closure of greed haven - NWAT and as you know, I've been over at GH MK2, having a play, lol.
So unlike you who hid like a coward and refused to answer my one simple question, (eventually saying I dunno, lol) I will answer yours willingly.
Q1. Tell me RS do you still call for the breakup and dismantling of Telstra with confiscation of Telstra plant and equipment?
A1. I have never called for anything like you describe whatsoever YOU ARE A LIAR. Prove you are not by adding a link to where I have said this or apologise, immediately. May as well apologise now, I haven't said it.
Q2. Do you still demand that Telstra opponents be allowed to use Telstra facilities at a price below cost?
A2. I have never demanded anything. I have said that because Telstra inherited 100% fixed line clientele (monopoly) from the government along with the PSTN, as the laws were drafted prior to privatisation, Telstra's opponents should be allowed access to the network at a price determined by an independent umpire. This is as our laws clearly state and I simply wish to uphold. It is YOU who wishes to break the regulations laws (breaking laws, nothing new for Telstra eh?).
Q3. Do you still demand that Telstra be forced to sell its holding in Foxtel?
A. Like Q1- I have never called for anything like you describe whatsoever YOU ARE A LIAR. Prove you are not by adding a link to where I have said this or apologise, immediately. May as well apologise now, I haven't said it.
Q4 Do you still demand that Telstra be banned from inclusion in NBN?
A4. Like Q1 & 3- I have never called for anything like you describe whatsoever YOU ARE A LIAR. Prove you are not by adding a link to where I have said this or apologise, immediately. May as well apologise now, I haven't said it.
You see Sydney, you say RS do YOU still, when I have never, making it personal. Then when I fire back highlighting your greedy motive, when you have no answer, you then depend on old trusty (get personal again) and wrongly call me a disparager, out to demonise Telstra.
No I am someone defending himself from a liar, who lives and breaths share greed.
Speaking of shares, without greed -
I have shares myself Sydney (ooh) and I understand they aren't always easy to purchase due to financial restraints.
However, if I can't afford, I won't buy. I also understand risk, which means they can go down as well as up. I will not cry or blame others for my investment decisions, as you do, when they head south, that's life.
Also, to prove that I'm (unlike you) not a "greedy shareholder", I do not live and breathe my shares, they are only shares and nothing else. And whilst I support my companies, I do not frequent blogs to lie about my companies, to blame other if they underperfom and I certainly, will never be so disgraceful to either baselessly refer to another who voices a problem with my company as a disparaging opponent and will NEVER EVER, disgracefully use the ANZACS, to vainly attempt to help my portfolio.
This is how I know you ARE a greedy shareholder.
Ooh BTW Sydney, before you wrongly and stupidly claim me a shareholder in Telstra's opponents, I am not.
My shares are not in comms or technology and aren't related to Telstra or their opponents in any way, whatsoever.
And yes, they are all Australian companies - probably more Aussie owned than Telstra!
telstra... microsoft...ninemsn.... All dish up bland bob dobalina soup with a very bitter aftertaste - no surprise to me!
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Why is a principled man like Steve Vamos joining a totally unprincipled company like Telstra???
Must be the fact that Vamos and Thodey worked together at IBM.
At least Thodey is a decent individual....