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Probably a good cover story for their network problems and the need to halt/slow their rollout.
Found - Monty Python writers now working for Optus.
Advice to Optus, a threat is supposed to mean something, scare someone !
A threat to do what your already doing is not a threat. It is well established Optus form.
And no threat what so ever, WHAT SO EVER.
Let me get this straight, Optus is threatening to not invest in fixed line infrastructure.
As opposed to the last many many years where it has not invested in fixed line infrastructure !
In fact since the cable rollout ceased its use has been sidelined, as Optus actually chose NOT to use it, in favour of choosing to using cheaper Telstra infrastructure !
In fact Telstra even went to the ACCC to force Optus to use its Optus infrastructure where it already existed!
(And the ACCC ruled against Telstra !!!)
I’m not sure but Paul O’Sullivan could be a certain pet shop owner who wanted to be Lumberjack and wear suspenders and bra !!!
Seriously this is hilarious you could not dream this s*** up. What a crack up.
...laugh it up Telstra zealots. How quickly we forget Telstras threat to pull out of the NBN if it didn't get unreasonable regulatory and pricing assurances.
You people make me sick.
Oh look, a butthurt Optus fanboy.
Hav'nt forgotten, and its not a threat..
It is fact. ie. past tense. Telstra has withdrawn.
Not because of unreasonable regulatory and pricing assurances. But because there is no point in bidding.
It will only return if the govt confirms any type of seperation will not be entertained.
Telstra just doing everybody a favour. Not wasting everybody's time which is what Terria is doing.
TELSTRA WILL NOT DO THE NBN UNDER SEPERATION.
TERRIA WHO WANT TO DO THE NBN (yeah right). Have it all to themselves unless the govt now makes a move otherwise.
Either you are on the Telstra board or you are Sol, otherwise you are simply a timewaster. As of today, Telstra is still an active respondent to the NBN tender process. So what has Telstra withdrawn from exactly?
As of this speech if not earlier from Sol's speech, Telstra has withdrawn, only to return IF, IF the govt makes the confirmation.
It has been weeks so far and the confirmation has not arrived and Telstra has chosen to reveal this in public.
Telstra CFO speech bby conference-
' Telstra requires the Fed. Govt. to rule out any further seperation . . . . . . . . Our bid can only be put forward when we know we can apply our integrated company structure's "
But its ok Terria have exactly what they want Telstra out of the running and NBN is all their's.
Rejoice! can you tell Paul O'Sullivan is !
He and Egan are "very very confident of winning".
Financial Advisors (maquarie Bank) withdrawn -Check.
Maquarie Bank gone over to Telstra - Check
AAPT - Withdrawn Check
No finance in place - Check
No prospect of $15 Billion found - Check
Remaining partners good for jack S***T-Check
No Detailed Plans - Check
No Vendors - Check
1 Objective born of fear - Check
3 ridiculous condions - Very Big Check
Yep I'm also confident, but then again I could be wrong.
I fell for "where going in for the WMD in Iraq" !!!
..but they are still engaged in the NBN process and have not withdrawn their bid??
Optus, very poor investments in the infra-structure. Recent 3G network meltdown is a good example.
Optus Cable speed is pathetic, Optus should be ashamed.
The only innovation is the new pricing plans, but no further infrastructure investment.
Optus can't even identify problems on their own 3G network. Plus they overload their broadband services for general consumers. This is what happens when you overload services without the correct infrastructure in place.
Stop suckling off of Telstras **** like a parasite Optus.
using mobile network as example, telstra is offering premium service with above average price, three is offering budget service at lower price.
whereas for optus, they offer a similar low quality serivce, in term of speed, customer service, etc, but still can't clearly identify their market position.
as a consumer i wish optus can provide some clear sense of business and competitiveness in the market place but until then, i have to stick with telstra for boradband and three for mobile.
Yes Paul,
All of QLD felt it was very innovative that you could not only take down fixed but also wireless infrastructure for half a day.
Please do us a favour and don't invest, at least it might save us a few outages that end up with no explanation. Just a hint though if you are looking to invest elsewhere, probably wouldn't want to go for a PR company either...
Cheers,
M
Do we overlook the Telstra outages then?
When was the last time Telstra managed to take down wireless infrastructure as well as fixed for half a day, hmmm?
Only last week Jet Star went into melt down because of Telstra systems and services. and last year half of western sydney went ofline when a fiber cable was cut by a contractor and took nearly a week to come back online completely.
unfortunately systems do fail and people need to understand no company is perfect.
So basically it will be business as usual in OPTUS land.
The Optus threat to the Australian Government will be noted by Prime Minister Rudd and Minister of the Crown Conroy. Singapore owned Optus should realise that Australians do no respond to threats of any kind.
Sydney, you should have a quiet word with your Telstra sources then, as they have made more threats to the Aust Govt than any organisation I can think of.
Barely concealed undercurrent of racism aside (who cares who owns it, all I care about is which company wants to screw me less).
Sol Trujillo threatens the Aussie government (ALP & Lib) every chance he gets. Heck, he'll threaten the shareholders when he feels like it. His poor wife...
Why doesn't the government build the [expletive] NBN themselves and Telstra, Optus, AAPT etc. rent the service from them.
At least Telstra won't have to worry about Optus and Co. mooching off of them, and Terria won't have to worry about kissing the collective arses of Telstra execs.
Someone is making a lot of sense here!!!
So Simon you are suggesting NOW the Taxpayer comes to the rescue again!!
What the country needs is for OPTUS & Co to get off their butts and starting investing for a change & stop leaving it all up to Telstra!!
Then & only then we we ALL have "True Competition" not the stuff OPTUS loves to sponge off!!
Oh how quick we are to ask for the Taxpayer to bail us out!!
Well, anon suggested, I just agreed. I do believe that a govt owned an operated infrastructure is a better way to go for all Australians. I certainly have no faith in private enterprise delivering anything to the benefit of all Australians.
The govt is already going to spend a min of $4.7B.
You are the same guys who called for the "slice & dice up" of Telstra or then Telecom Australia.
And now because Telstra has down the hard yards & is an industry leader you guy's want to take you bat & ball & go Home.
Why? because it is the easy option & your "free ride" under HOWARD/Coonan is over!!!
Senator Conroy are you out there...dont fall for this three card trick!!
The taxpayer is already going to pay for it, mark my word. The issue is whether we own it once it's built.
And then, when every other company in the market doesn't have to go begging to the company that owns the market, we'll have "true competition".
Now this is just by opinion but here's what I think is an ideal design for the NBN.
1. The government sets up an independent body to construct, control and maintain the NBN.
2. The telcos wanting to sell their services over the new NBN (Telstra, Optus, Netscape, AAPT and others) pay this independent body for access.
3. The money paid to the independent body would then be used to maintain, upgrade and expand the network.
4. All the arguments over which telco is mooching off of another telco's copper/HFC lines will become near non-existent.
5. For the telcos unwilling to pay to access the NBN they can simply spend their own money to develop their own network, something I highly doubt Optus will do.
Again this is just how I think it should be done, anyone else willing to share their ideas with us is welcome to do so.
Another thing, I heard that the target speed is around 12 Mbps, if this is true why go for a speed that low? (my cable broadband service in Melbourne can supposedly reach speeds of 30 Mbps). My aim would be at least 50 Mbps.
P.S. I wrote the comment "Here's a hint...", I accidently selected the option to hide my details.
This is totally fair and right, I have been saying exacttly the same for a long time..
no taxpayer funded because the business that use it, pay for it,(and a bit more to pay for the original build)
Amen, wow us can figure it out, why cant the gov., telstra and all the others. would stop all this bickering
After reding through some of these responses, a layman wouid think that the NBN tender submission is a two horse race...!
It isn;t and there are other players submitting a bid...need I remind everyone about an organisation called Acacia
I am sure they are happily siting back and enjoying Telstra and Terria arguing and jockeying for positions as they go about presenting a proposal that will beneift all Australians and meet the conditions set out before them
You sound pretty smug there. What makes you think their proposed bid will be anymore beneficial to Australians then what Telstra and Optus have to offer?
No smugness here - being a privately held organisation (as opposed to Telstra and Terria) Acacia would not have to pay significant dividends to it's shareholders...thus one would expect to offer a significantly cheaper wholesale proudct...
I also consider that organisations that spend more time providing media bites for websites and news programs do not have their minds firmly on what is ahead of them....
Spend time designing and building a submission and stop worrying about competition - it is the only way to be successful!
Telstra are too worried about 'seperation' (as they should be as they wont be able build the NBN when this becomes a requirement and Terria is to concerned about losing the bid and focussing on what will happen after the fact...
Thats great, Acacia hav'nt ask for a monopoly,
Perhaps they hav'nt based their bid on having Telstra as an anchor tenant.
And magically they may find someone who's willing to fork over $15 Billion.
In which case they would certainly be prepared for Telstra's hell for leather fight against the winner of the NBN. With a well prepared Plan B to be put into action well before the signatures hit the contract to be negotiated with the Govt.
Yep, Acacia has the same chance as Terria. Only difference is Acacia arent vocal about revealing their stupidity !
yeah! who ever wins the NBN better prepare for the fires of telstra! I fully support teltrsa taking it to what ever lying decietful company wins the NBN! Its in the national interest that should telstra not win, they force it to be a win! telstra knows best! all glory to Sol and his legendary band of Amigos! may you gringos drink tequila and make much merryiment for us australians!
I love you telstra!!! *sniff, wipes away a tear*
Obviously a Telstra supporter..or maybe e realist that has "converted" to the Telstra cause!!
Or maybe a pragmatist...after all it's in the Nations interests!!
Forget the national interest, The Govt did when it sold Telstra.
IF, IF the national interest is at stake, telstra shareholders may be very receptive to selling Telstra back at a price that recoups their investment.
Feel for Telstra shareholders who are enduring a loss ($7.40 approx 6 years ago). And the insult where F***wits are heeding the moronic call of Optus who is scared and lazy to compete and would prefer Telstra is stolen back of the shareholders.
Greenspan has just confessed his biggest error and shock was seeing company's who did not look after their shareholders interest.
One thing am comforted by, is seeing how all of the Telstra board and Management are vigorously fighting for Telstra shareholders. As They should. Ensuring money is invested and theirfore risked for the for the purpose of attaining a profit.
I used to have respect for the ACCC until I saw Graeme Samuel suggest he was also looking out for Telstra shareholders interest !!!
Thats not his job. He can regulate (right or wrong) the copper under existing regulation. But if telstra is invest it will do it in shareholders interest to risk tapping a market it estimates is there. Otherwise return capital to shareholders or invest overseas.
A Telsta Shareholder
P.S. normally drink Jack D. or Ouzo but Tequilla is now the choice me. Especially in these times!
Gracias Amigo! Te Quiro! Another splended fellow gringo, muchas gracias, may the praises of Sol be upon you, may the fires of telstra rain down on the evil that achieves the NBN through means of deception! may the holy storm of lawyers clense this country of anything than telstra! For all but telstra work against the national interest! all telstra decisions are guided by their holy mission to connect people, not to make profit, not to extort, but to connect...Gracias Tesltra'o and the brilliant 3 amigos!
Agatha Christie has joined the Monty Python crew at Terria.
This has now become histerical, Terria is such a farce.
Telstra withdraws from the NBN, and Terria is falling apart at the thought it may actually win and be responsible for the NBN.
First it was Maquarie Bank that withdrew,
then AAPT, taking Powertel with it,
now its SOUL / TPG also withdrawing.
I was wrong about the "Partners worth Jack S***T -Check. Because soon their wont be any partners at all.
P.S. The difference between Telstra and Optus is Telstra does'nt pretend to make the ultimate priority / motivation for its action as the National interest where as Optus/ Terria are do.
For those who need reminding All company's aim is to make profit for shareholders . . . .otherwise they soon go out of business.
Terria - Morons R us.
These guys are a laugh riot.
Please, Please, Please Mr Conroy, please release Terria's submission to the public.
(if they last long enough to give you one).
We want a laugh too ;-)
please dont associate monty python with Terria.. what slander towards the pythonians!
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Paul O'Sullivan is sure stamping his feet and having a tantrum isn't he? I hope he enjoys continuing to pay rental fees to Telstra.
Maybe if Optus offered to pay for some of the infrastructure the network wouldn't be in such bad shape. Oh, that's right, Optus doesn't think they should have to invest in infrastructure.
Keep acting like a child Paul, you're defiance to your biggest rival will only make things worse for you.