Optus sidesteps HFC challenge

By Suzanne Tindal, ZDNet.com.au
11 March 2009 10:56 AM
Tags: telstra, optus, hfc, upgrade

Optus has poured scorn on Telstra's plans to upgrade its HFC cable, saying that it will only benefit a very small number of Australians.

Upgrading HFC is not the answer to Australia's broadband future

Optus spokesperson

"Upgrading HFC is not the answer to Australia's broadband future as it will only ever benefit selected areas in major capital cities and not 98 per cent of the population," a spokesperson for the company said in a statement. "The fact is, only a very low percentage of customers at best will ever experience the claimed speeds of 100Mbps."

Telstra yesterday issued what appeared to be a veiled challenge to Optus to upgrade its own HFC cable footprint to 100Mbps.

"The great news is that there's an alternative infrastructure out there, and it's owned by our competitor. There are no restrictions on anybody doing the same thing that we're choosing to do," outgoing Telstra CEO Sol Trujillo said when announcing the upgrade plans. "This could be a nice wake-up call to some others to say 'we're going to do the same', much like what happened with wireless."

Optus said only that it had been trialling the technology to upgrade its HFC cable amongst other technologies for faster broadband, but there had been no firm decision as yet.

Optus is one of the bidders for the government's $4.7 billion National Broadband Network, which is slated to reach 98 per cent of the population. Fibre to the node technology is believed to form the basis of most bids to build the NBN.

Telstra had still not provided any "real" answer for rural and regional areas, according to Optus.

Yesterday at Telstra's briefing, when asked whether the company had plans to extend the HFC cable out to the millions of Australians who had fixed line connections, outgoing CEO Sol Trujillo said it was obvious the company wouldn't do all of them with HFC, although the company might extend the footprint a little, depending on demand. A technology mix was needed to provide the service customers wanted, he said, including Next G and the Telstra ADSL2+ network.

The speeds on HFC would vary, Optus said, since the network was shared, meaning that the more users on the HFC network the slower the speeds. Telstra's group managing director, networks and services, Michael Rocca put the average speeds on the network at 70-100Mbps.

Optus also believed the upgrade, which would require each home to be individually wired up to the HFC, would be an inconvenient process for most customers, and potentially also an expensive one if they wanted to achieve the higher speeds, since they would have to upgrade their modems.

Telstra has not yet decided on how or whether it will charge for customer premises equipment. There were many possibilities including the subsidisation method used by Vodafone for notebooks, according to Trujillo.

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Talkback 22 comments

    I never thought I'd say this Anonymous -- 11/03/09

    For the first time in a long time, I actually agree with Trujillo's comments here. His encouragement for competing companies to get off their backsides is precisely what this company needs.

    It's just a shame that it's taken him this long to say it in such a simple way.

    OPTUS invest?..... lol lol Anonymous -- 11/03/09

    Dont hold your breath! They would rather "cherry pick" the NBN where they cannot sponge some more!!

    Re: Cherry Picking Anonymous -- 11/03/09 (in reply to #320125395)

    Just like how Telstra have "cherry picked" their Cable network to only service a few million Australians ey?

    Why not...thats what OPTUS do Anonymous -- 11/03/09 (in reply to #320125405)

    learnt off the masters OPTUS themselves

    Just like how Telstra have "cherry picked" their Cable network to only service a Anonymous -- 11/03/09 (in reply to #320125405)

    err maybe i'm dated and haven't moved out of the 21st century yet.. but there are only a few million people living in australia

    errrr Cherry -- 12/03/09 (in reply to #320125418)

    errr maybe you are dated because 2.5 million homes is a far cry from 98% of the population which is a key requirement of the NBN

    errr bob -- 13/03/09 (in reply to #320125459)

    Its not meant to be the NBN moron, its an upgrade to existing customers cable services. Its not saying that its going to more people, its just saying faster speeds will be available.

    Please try to be at least slightly relevant.

    Optus = max profits with little to no investment Anonymous -- 11/03/09

    I really hope optus does not win the NBN cause we will end up with a cheap half -assed solution.

    Well done Sol Anonymous -- 11/03/09

    Within hours of your announcement Telstra shares continued their plummet to a new all time low. Good riddance

    Tricksters. Sydney Lawrence -- 11/03/09 (in reply to #320125404)

    Cannot understand why, if as you say you are not a shareholder of Telstra, you are so concerned with the Telstra share price.

    And yes, Optus is shown up as the trickers they are and lets hope the Australian Government is awake to them.

    Congrats Sol, you are welcome to Stay in Oz! Simon St Leonards -- 11/03/09 (in reply to #320125415)

    I think Sol has made the best move I have seen, Optus has become the lazy player, a follower who sponges off Telstra and rarely spends much on improving their own network.
    Come on Optus, why don't you actually compete on a level playing field? you do with your mobile network, now show us you can do it with your cable network. Fibre to the node is never going to provide us with future speeds we require, by the time you roll this out (if you win) 12Mbit's minimum will not cater for our growning needs for speedy data.

    12Mbit is a minimum Cherry -- 12/03/09 (in reply to #320125419)

    12Mbit is the MINIMUM speed required to be delivered to 98% of the population. Once the winner is announced you'll see that the majority of the network will offer speeds far greater than anything currently available today. Even if the successful bidder used the oldest available technology FTTN will still deliver speeds of around 24-25Mbit to the majority of households.

    I'd expect the announcement will offer speeds more in the vicinity of 50-100Mbit, and the difference between cable and FTTN is that while 100Mbit may sound great cable functions very similar way to a Mobile network where the capacity is shared by all users meaning those sorts of speeds will rarely be achieved by any customers.

    hmm Anonymous -- 11/03/09

    i think optus has the poo because they think they were getting NBN and now there saying it wont happen has upset them

    New Plans? Terry -- 11/03/09

    Unless Telstra modify their plans to provide better usage than all the new speed will do is allow people to plow through their data allowance quicker, and not to be able to take advantage of the extra benefits (such as HD streaming video, etc) the extra speed will give them.

    And then their is of course the limited footprint that the Telstra (and Optus) HFC networks have in relation to Australia at large, both of which are pretty small when put in comparison of the size the NBN will be.

    Finally Optus have already stated they are in testing for a DOCSIS upgrade, whether or not that happens is yet to be seen but at least they're not going to merely make a kneejerk reaction to what Telstra has done and are considering their options.

    Optus? Anonymous -- 12/03/09

    Optus following? Not for a _long_ time. Singtel has been steadily bleeding the company dry ever since taking ownership of it. Optus' HFC network has been going _down_hill for some time now.

    Maybe this will serve as a wakeup to the powers that be that they've dropped the ball and fallen a _long_ way behind.

    Inconvenient? Anonymous -- 12/03/09

    "Optus also believed the upgrade, which would require each home to be individually wired up to the HFC, would be an inconvenient process for most customers"

    How is it any more "inconvenient" to have Telstra install cable than it is to have Optus install HFC cable to your house? Pot, Kettle, Black.......

    Installing Cables Anonymous -- 14/03/09 (in reply to #320125503)

    "How is it any more "inconvenient" to have Telstra install cable than it is to have Optus install HFC cable to your house?"

    OK so I get another cable installed each time I switch ISPs? Could get rather messy & congested after a while?

    Telstra Shill Anonymous -- 13/03/09

    Oh my god, Telstra PR Shills have jumped on the bandwagon...

    Telstra is further bolstering it's monoply over the public and you say it is great and innovative?

    how innovative is changing Long Distance Billing back to 30 second blocks and then removing the long Distance pips in a call.

    How innovative is upgrading to DOCSIS 3.0 years after it was released? When was it tht Telstra actually added to their Cable infrastructure? There are great swathed of the capital cities that have no cable infrastructure yet they trumpet their advancements in cable.

    Go back to your press releases and let real people comment, real people that are repeatedly shafted by Telstra oon a regular basis...

    DOCSIS 3 Anonymous -- 13/03/09

    is still pretty new technology with most providers only upgrading to it in the last 12-18 month, Telstra could not have done this "years ago".
    But lets face it they were kicked out of the NBN and they are going to make sure that everyone else is going to hurt just as much!

    NBN is DEAD even VDSL2 at 300m is only really just competing with this, it will not be better

    moo Anonymous -- 16/03/09 (in reply to #320125603)

    vdsl2 works greater than that.

    also there is something else on the way that helps copper based solutions by filtering the line noise further and was/is developed by an aussie that got bought by the yanks as usual

    Johnny Anonymous -- 26/03/09

    In My Opinion It Isn`t True. There U Can Find A lot of interesting articles, and news about HFCs, telecommunications and other:

    http://www.vector.com.pl/en/systems/hfc_network_infrastructure/optical_nodes_and_receivers.php

    Check it!

    What Rubbish. Paul -- 26/08/09

    What absolute load of crock. They said nothing when Telstra upgraded to 30 mbps and then they did it, and now optus won't upgrade theirs to 100 mbps? Well they better prepare for an onslaught of customers cancelling their services.

    Their statement that every home will be individually wired just shows how ignorant they are as most are wired.

    They mentioned it will be expensive if they upgrade their modems - If my modem is gone, I will have to pay for a new one anyway.

    They have the best HFC cable and they don't utilse and its underfunded. Some people are so stupid.

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