Nokia Australia to answer defect mobile claims

The NSW department of Fair Trading has begun preliminary investigations into allegations that Nokia Australia has been selling mobile handsets with faulty screens.

"The Department of Fair Trading is aware of some disquiet among consumers as a result of suggestions that Nokia LCD display panels may be faulty," said Wayne Watson speaking on behalf Chris Hanlon, Fair Trading's departmental director of compliance and standards.

"We have been looking into it to identify what the problems are and we'll be meeting with representatives of Nokia early next week."

As reported exclusively by ZDNet Australia, Nokia has long been battling allegations that the LCD display panel incorporated into its phones carries inherent design faults, causing the screen to fail prematurely.

In one report, a former employee of Nokia Australia seemingly backed the allegations which were first put forward by disgruntled Nokia 8210 owners and supported by employees of independent handset service centres and carriage service providers.

Comments from Melbourne-based IT Manager, Martin Curlis, are typical of those received by ZDNet Australia since the first report was published detailing the allegations.

"I bought 18 Nokia 8210s in December last year and not long after I had to return five because the wires connecting the hands free socket to the base of the phone were never connected properly. Subsequently I have sent 7 phones back to have their LCD screens fixed," he said. "If this is 'no more than usual' I will be certain never to buy a Nokia again."

In the most recent report, a former employee of a large carriage service provider said that the LCD display's problems had become a source of humour among members of the mobile industry, the joke heard regularly at events held by Nokia.

Throughout ZDNet Australia's investigation, Nokia has consistently claimed that it is unaware of the alleged problem, and explains the seemingly high incidence of failure among the phones as a natural consequence of having a large market share.

"Based on our volumes the problem is not widespread," said Nokia corporate affairs manager, Anthony Wilson in an earlier interview. The company's claim contradicts a statement made by the former Nokia employee who said that the company has been aware of the alleged defect and that it effects a wide range of the handsets manufactured since the company retired the Nokia 2110 about six years ago.

When ZDNet Australia contacted Nokia for a statement regarding the upcoming meeting with the NSW consumer watchdog, the company said that the meeting was not unusual.

"Obviously a company of Nokia's size has many meetings with government departments," said Wilson.

The company declined to provide details on how regularly the company conducts meetings with government departments that perform functions comparable to that of Fair Trading.

The mobile phone manufacturer has also consistently refused to reveal the number of its handsets that have been returned to service centres due to LCD or other apparent engineering problems.

The Department of Fair Trading could not provide further details regarding the meeting but said it would make further public disclosures after it had taken place.

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Talkback 24 comments

    Speaking to a friend of mine w ...Anonymous -- 28/11/01

    Speaking to a friend of mine who works in a repair shop, Nokia is still trying to cover up and has instructed all their dealers and repairers not to speak to the press. Interestingly enough, he also mentioned that Nokia has since changed the design of the screens that have been faulty for years. Although Nokia will tell you otherwise, the screen you get in a new 8210 today is different to the screen the originals came out with.

    Relating to the LCD failure on ...Anonymous -- 28/11/01

    Relating to the LCD failure on the Nokia 8210. I have had my own 8210 experience an LCD display failure(under warranty), my wife's 8210 and a friend of mine. All 8210's experienced the exact same display failure.
    A bit too coincidental!!

    Not only the 8210, this proble ...Anonymous -- 28/11/01

    Not only the 8210, this problem goes way back to the 5110 models as well.

    I purchased 10 handsets (7110s ...Anonymous -- 28/11/01

    I purchased 10 handsets (7110s) and all have had faults, 2 did not last the full week after repair and they went again. I have a letter from Nokia saying their phones are fine and they accused me of making statements that I could not back up. I am happy to give all the phones back and get a refund but Nokia said no way, not their problem. $5k later.......... I have suggested to all the people I know not to buy them!

    Hi, I am an owner of a Nokia ...Anonymous -- 29/11/01

    Hi,

    I am an owner of a Nokia 8210 and had a problem with the screen disappearing every now and then. Then by the end of the month, it disappeared altogether and I had to take it in to the dealer. There I was informed that this was common with the Nokia 8210 (which did not at all please me!) but I had my phone repaired and returned within a week, so I was appeased.

    Today, a friend sent me an email regarding this matter:

    Nokia Australia to answer defect mobile claims

    which can be found at
    http://www.zdnet.com.au/newstech/communications/story/0,2000024993,20262105,00.htm

    I was surprised that Nokia knew about this but has handled the matter as a triviality. I have always had high regards for the Nokia and my mobiles have been Nokia all these years, but if that's the attitude taken by the Company's Management, I shall not be their customer for long and I shall also ensure others are aware of this slackness on Nokia's part.

    Many thanks for having let us faithful customers down.

    Cheers

    Annoyed
    Canberra
    Australia

    Hi, I am an owner of a Nokia ...Anonymous -- 29/11/01

    Hi,

    I am an owner of a Nokia 8210 and had a problem with the screen disappearing every now and then. Then by the end of the month, it disappeared altogether and I had to take it in to the dealer. There I was informed that this was common with the Nokia 8210 (which did not at all please me!) but I had my phone repaired and returned within a week, so I was appeased.

    Today, a friend sent me an email regarding this matter:

    Nokia Australia to answer defect mobile claims

    which can be found at
    http://www.zdnet.com.au/newstech/communications/story/0,2000024993,20262105,00.htm

    I was surprised that Nokia knew about this but has handled the matter as a triviality. I have always had high regards for the Nokia and my mobiles have been Nokia all these years, but if that's the attitude taken by the Company's Management, I shall not be their customer for long and I shall also ensure others are aware of this slackness on Nokia's part.

    Many thanks for having let us faithful customers down.

    Cheers

    Annoyed
    Canberra
    Australia

    My 8850 developed a serious di ...Jørgen Smith -- 29/11/01

    My 8850 developed a serious display screen failure after about half a year. I got a replacement screen for free on the same day at their Elisabeth St, Mel repair centre, but anyway it was a big hassle for me as the fault only developed gradually and I didn't know what the heck was going on.

    For a $1500 phone, I don't think these things are supposed to happen.

    A friend who also had an 8850 experienced the same thing.

    When checking with the people at Myers where I bought the phone, they said it was a very regular problem with this model.

    That Nokia won't admit that anything is not good. They could have just issued a statement that would have cleared the confusion for all owners wondering what was going on with their flashy new phones.

    My 8850 too. After about 6 mon ...Anonymous -- 29/11/01

    My 8850 too.

    After about 6 months I started experiencing intermitant screen behaviour and then it disappeared entirely. Returned to dealer who has same phione and same problem! Fixed under warranty but I won't buy Nokia again.

    Casual talk with friends indicate they've had similar problems on a variety of models.

    The trick is to make sure your warranty is as long / longer than your contract.

    nokia 6101 nello curzi -- 18/07/06 (in reply to #120007159)

    I daughter had the same problem with her phone, screen was blinking
    as well as front screen, the phone is about 3 monthes old i took it back to optus to send to nokia for repair, they said is was abuse of phone and charged me for repair

    I might as well jump on the ba ...Anonymous -- 29/11/01

    I might as well jump on the band wagon! I had no idea that the Nokia 8210 has so many complaints about the screens. I too have this phone. I have owned it for 20 months. Within this time, my screen has failed three times. Twice with complete failure and once with partial. Each time, it has been replaced by the Nokia Service Centre in Melbourne under warranty with no questions or issues. And, with each replacement screen, the warranty on the phone has been extended 12 months. Whilst in the service store, the phone has come out with new programming and the last time it came out with a new keypad. I am interested as to what the outcome will be from the inquiry.

    I was told by Nokia that 8210 ...Anonymous -- 29/11/01

    I was told by Nokia that 8210 phone had no "apparent" problems what a joke screen blanking no signal with a bad antenna connection. How many more nokia 8210's don't have the "apparent" problem

    I"ve had a Nokia 8210 for ...Anonymous -- 04/12/01

    I"ve had a Nokia 8210 for 13 months. 2 weeks ago the screen began to play up and 1 week ago, it seemed like the battery was failing. I bought a brand new genuine nokia battery for $70. Guess what? The phone cuts out 45 seconds into a call telling me the battery is empty whether it's plugged into the wall or not, with either battery.
    The phone is of course now out of warranty, and I still have 11 months to run on a contract. Telstra are demanding the full buy-out price to terminate the contract even though the minimum cost has already been exceeded several times over.
    It seems the bigger they get, the less we get.

    Also in belgium there are prob ...Rudy -- 13/01/02

    Also in belgium there are problems with the nokia 8210 Display!!!

    I bought a Nokia 8210 3 months ...Anonymous -- 21/02/02

    I bought a Nokia 8210 3 months ago. The Phone's LCD screnn went blank after the PIN code was put in and accepted, the phone will still work ok.
    Swith the phone off and on again, you will get the LCD display back, but after the PIN code been accepted, the LCD will go balnks again. Is this a different LCD fault from the current issue. The phone was sent back to Nokia. My son's phone ( same model) had the same problem 2 weeks agao.

    I ahve had 5, 8210 handsets, ...Anonymous -- 24/05/02

    I ahve had 5, 8210 handsets, and all have either been repaired or have been discarded as faulty. This has been within an 18 month period

    starting with the 5110,6110,61 ...Geoff Rohde -- 31/05/02

    starting with the 5110,6110,6150,7110,8210,8250;all these phones use a piece of metalised rubber to connect the LCD display to the main board.All these phones have a 100 % failure rate due to the inferior quality of the rubber interface.Furthermore most of the phones have glass LCD against a metal frame which leads to easy cracking when dropped.
    Thanks to nokia ,I have made a living out of repairing there crap for 6 years.Yhere are many other serious defects among nokia products. I hope they keep up the bad quality.

    Greetings, It seems that the p ...Samuel Pranto -- 23/06/02

    Greetings,

    It seems that the problem is not only in Australia. I repair mobile phones and a large amount of repair are held on LCD displays of the 8210 from Nokia. This is a bad thing for a company with the status of Nokia.

    My Mate brought the new 6110 a ...Anonymous -- 10/11/03

    My Mate brought the new 6110 and he had it for about a month and then had to get the screen fixed and then he just put it back into the shop bcause the screen just goes a complete different colour. And I own a 7250 and somtimes when I am using mine the screen flickers.

    My Mate brought the new 6110 a ...Anonymous -- 10/11/03

    My Mate brought the new 6110 and he had it for about a month and then had to get the screen fixed and then he just put it back into the shop bcause the screen just goes a complete different colour, and you can't see anything. And I own a 7250 and somtimes when I am using mine the screen flickers.

    My Mate brought the new 6110 a ...Anonymous -- 10/11/03

    My Mate brought the new 6110 and he had it for about a month and then had to get the screen fixed and then he just put it back into the shop bcause the screen just goes a complete different colour, and you can't see anything. And I own a 7250 and somtimes when I am using mine the screen flickers.

    My Mate brought the new 6110 a ...Anonymous -- 10/11/03

    My Mate brought the new 6110 and he had it for about a month and then had to get the screen fixed and then he just put it back into the shop bcause the screen just goes a complete different colour, and you can't see anything. And I own a 7250 and somtimes when I am using mine the screen flickers.

    i bought a nokia 6610 in Septe ...Anonymous -- 21/05/04

    i bought a nokia 6610 in September last year due to having a child with serious medical needs and have had to get it repaired twice so far. have had it back one day and am still getting the same faults. What is there that we can do to get a better product and to get Nokia to fix this thing. I am not impressed by the poor workmanship performed by nokia.

    Fault with Nokia 6210 within 3 days of purchase! Anonymous -- 03/01/09

    I purchased a Nokia 6210 3 days ago from a well known mobile phone store on recommendation that this was an exceptionally advanced phone from the manager, only to have the screen already turn black, and I have been told that I will need to have this repaired at my own cost....... how can this be?
    Not Happy Jan!!!

    N 85 Nokia Michael Galagher -- 21/08/09

    I bought a n 85 nokia after 6 days the screen went blank and after looking very close the screen has a crack in the LCD now nokia will not honer the warrenty they said it had been abused .i say to nokia rubbish it is 6 days old,the N 85 also has a problem with the LCD screen.

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