Next G to turn 21 next week?

By Suzanne Tindal, ZDNet.com.au

11 February 2009 05:05 PM

Tags: telstra, next g, 21mbps, sierra wireless, mobile, big pond, invite, hfc

Telstra has invited journalists to an event next week, which it believes will "cement" its place as a leading global telco, possibly marking the final boost of its Next G network onto 21Mbps or an upgrade of its HFC cable network.

Telstra invitation ... click for full page

The invitation has the Bigpond logo prominently in the left-hand corner, which could indicate that Telstra is planning to announce an upgrade of its HFC cable to 100Mbps using Docsis3.0.

However, the invite also features the logo for Telstra's Next G wireless network. The invite mentioned the fact that "Australia's fastest athletes" will be at the event.

Telstra has been running trials at 21Mbps speeds after Michael Rocca made the first data call using the faster speeds last year. A "full commercial launch" was to be held early 2009, but has not yet occurred.

Another announcement that could occur in conjunction would be the commercial launch of Sierra Wireless' modem, capable of downlink speeds up to 21Mbps, which was trialled publicly at the Telstra investor day.

If these guesses are correct, it is likely that the telco will also talk more in detail about its plans to increase Next G speeds up to 100Mbps. Telstra CEO Sol Trujillo named the upgrading of its mobile network as a focus after being excluded from the National Broadband Network process in December.

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another invite story.. Anonymous -- 11/02/09

if i send my birthday party invite to zdnet, will it be turned into a story?

invite Renai LeMay -- 11/02/09 (in reply to #320122943)

Depends who you are ;)

Cheers,

Renai LeMay
News Editor
ZDNet.com.au

A welcome move by Telstra Mel Sommersberg -- 11/02/09

The move to 100Mbit on Bigpond Cable would be very welcome, for the few people that can get it.

Whilst I have no problem with the upgrade in itself, it shows Telstra's sheer arrogance and more of their ambitions only to serve the capital cities, leaving those in the bush stuck with technology upto 15 years old. Optus, as the other large owner of a cable network, should also hang their heads in shame.

How many other telcos have high-speed anything outside the cities? Patanjali -- 12/02/09 (in reply to #320122958)

At least Telstra IS putting its 7.2Mbps Next G network outside of capitol cities.

3 is selling 7.2Mbps modems but is yet to put that speed ANYWHERE.

Mobile, ADSL2+, Take your pick Mel Sommersberg -- 12/02/09 (in reply to #320122970)

You missed the point completely.

Wired networks are more reliable and stable than any available wireless network and that was actually the point I was trying to make - cable goes to the city fringes and then stops. To make matters worse there are networks such as mobile and ADSL2+ which go some way to competing with cable on speed but again, the point is that in the capital cities you have a choice of many. Drive over the mountains and there is next to nothing.

You should also note that Telstra wasn't the only company singled out in my comments. Please read it again for clarification.

Telstra's sheer arrogance and more of their ambitions only to serve the capital cities, leaving those in the bush stuck with technology upto 15 years old Anonymous -- 13/02/09 (in reply to #320122958)

You can blame the Howard Govt for this , the public were told time and time again by unions before the last mojority of the Telco was sold off, this would happen. Too late now.

Not true Mel Sommersberg -- 14/02/09 (in reply to #320123197)

Network coverage areas for cable and ADSL were on paper well before privatisation was completed. Facts before fallacy please.

hfc network Stephen -- 12/02/09

I am about to ditch telstra as an isp as they are way to expensive. 49.95 for 400mb on cable(39.95) staff discount. Am going to netspace(and yes I know they have telstra as a supplier)for my isp. adsl2 might be slower than cable but the cost is far cheaper for more download.
telstra is a rip off.

Always one Brett Hastings -- 12/02/09 (in reply to #320122981)

It doesn't matter what the story is you will always get at least one idiot that thinks price, price, price. I know I pay more for Telstra (without any staff discounts) and wouldn't leave them. Friends complain about speed issues, unreliability problems and poor customer service all the time. I would rather pay 50 cents extra each day to know I will get a reliable service.

Re Aways One (or2) Anonymous -- 12/02/09 (in reply to #320122988)

And other idiots seem to think that the higher the price, the better the product even when the generic item is identical.
I have 2 connections, a business account with Telstra & the 2nd (home account) with a rival.
Customer service from either is painful at best but the rival is by far the better value in all aspects!

And another Mel Sommersberg -- 12/02/09 (in reply to #320122988)

Value for money is a comparison between price and quality. Telstra usually manages to fail on both. Give me six hours and I'll itemise all the problems I used to have when I was a Telstra customer all those years ago. I've used all their products at some stage with the exception of satellite. I could never knock the speed of Bigpond's cable network. For me it was always fast. It wasn't reliable however. At one time I was overlapping between an ADSL service and Cable and at that time there was a software update rolled out to both networks and both networks sh@t themselves and it took a few days for Bigpond to rollback the upgrade. People forget that when they bleat and moan about Optus' recent troubles in Queensland.

I will note though that I did receive a pro-rated refund for the time lost, as per the SLA that Bigpond offered customers at the time, and I might add later withdrew due to the massive cost of the stuff-up. I guess what gets offered with one hand is taken with the other.

My time away from Telstra has not been perfect but certainly a lot better. My current ADSL2+ connection has been up for several months. I'd be lucky to get 14 days when with Bigpond and I got rid of Bigpond cable because I got tired of the timeouts that Bigpond helldesk kept blaming on my computer, sunspots and climate change.

Expensive but reliable Anonymous -- 12/02/09 (in reply to #320122981)

I use Telstra for internet and have never had an outage that has impacted me in 5 years that was their fault!!!!

I am more than happy to pay extra for that peace of mind!!

Like my ISP Simon -- 12/02/09 (in reply to #320122981)

I have used the same ISP for 5 years (despite name changes) and have no complaints. I am restricted to 512kbps due to poor copper pairs but I have had unlimited (ie +25G per month) for $25. No outages, great service, no billing issues. Why would I want to change to Telstra and pay double for worse service? (churned after many bad Telstra experiences)

theft El Bogrease -- 12/02/09

What is the use of a 21mb tech when Telstra D/L limits are so pathetic? Wana watch IVIEW on Sols 21mb fraudband, better be fuking rich!

Next G Anonymous -- 12/02/09

The whole system is crap, I bought a 3G phone two years ago just after it came out and after a 18 months of trying decided to take it of the internet all together, it never worked properly from day one. Even when it did work it didn't display properly because the sites I went to had no facility for a small screen display everthing is set up for a computer srcreen and will not displya on a small phone screen.

Telstra delivers. Sydney Lawrence -- 12/02/09

The jealous Telstra opposition continue to display their imbecilic anti- Telstra, anti- Australian raves. Go Telstra and Go Australia. And Go to hell the other fools.

Next G Anonymous -- 12/02/09 (in reply to #320123012)

It seems a lot of Telstra employees are posting comments, yes I use Telstra for broadband but the phone version is absolute crap and to advertise it as anything better than crap is a gross misrepresentation. That is from someone who uses Telstra for all other services, but not from choice the other providers aren't much if they are at all any better.

Fair's fair. Mel Sommersberg -- 12/02/09 (in reply to #320123012)

Sydney, the main difference between you and me seems to be that you have always used Telstra for your communications needs. I haven't, I've used quite a few ISPs over the years; Microplex, Optus, Primus, Bigpond, SwiftDSL, People and Spin (I think I got them all).

I think I am in a better position than you to make claims about who delivers. If you'd change your spots then you would also come to realise that Telstra doesn't deliver.

Mind you, there are other ISPs I wouldn't use and TPG is one of them. I haven't tried them but they are probably the most despised ISP next to Bigpond.

Sydney & Mel. Same ideas just different sides. Anonymous -- 12/02/09 (in reply to #320123049)

I agree and disagree.

In Sydney's eyes Telstra can do no wrong, so his advice is at best, questionable.

However Mel, without wishing for this thread to diminish in decency, as is normally the case once I inform everyone of a few home truths about you, your non existent impartiality and you then defensively but nastily reacting to these truths.

You have a history with Telstra, having been banished from their IRC, and have held a grudge against them ever since.

Because of this, you will not give Telstra any credit, or at best, say one positive thing but then add ten negatives.

If it weren't for the fact of your dicscommunication and the perpetual grudge you now and will always hold, and it is a fact although you believe you were the victim, I would agree with you, but because of this, I believe you are no more qualified than Sydney to give advice.

I am The One, Mr Anonymous :-) Mel Sommersberg -- 14/02/09 (in reply to #320123076)

"If it weren't for the fact of your dicscommunication and the perpetual grudge you now and will always hold, and it is a fact although you believe you were the victim, I would agree with you, but because of this, I believe you are no more qualified than Sydney to give advice."

Sad sad little boy. It is a fact that I remained a Bigpond customer for at least 12 months (not under contract) after walking away from their sh!tty little chat server and helping to create a better one. So as you can see, my decision to drop Bigpond as an ISP was motivated by poor service (you know, the same that is on offer from your mate Sammee on Bigpond Chat) and abysmal levels of communication. But there is more to it than that. I was a bit pissed off with Sol coming along and giving Australians the boot and replacing them with offshore contractors. Okay, many of Telstra's competitors do the same but only in response to Telstra doing it.

So it is not a question of grudges. As an example, if Bigpond were to ring me up and offer me a 2 year contract with at least 15GB of downloads (chargable in one direction, not both) 24Mbit bandwidth and a static IP with all ports open so I can run the four services I host with no problems at all, along with line rental for less than $75 per month and offer the same reliability as my current ISP then I will sign up today.

If not, then please don't keep profering the grudge yarn - it just doesn't wash. The thing is, you can only allege one reason why I don't use Telstra. I can give you many substantial reasons. :-)

Also, you continue to hide behind the Anonymous tag - it demonstrates your lack of credibility and your lack of honesty. Most of the regulars know I am LordWatchdog (real name Brad). heh - I don't consider myself a victim of Bigpond. I am untouchable and there is nothing that you or your IRC chums or Bigpond can do about it.

The Untouchable Lord Anonymous -- 14/02/09 (in reply to #320123229)

Yes whatever Mel, you are untouchable because you are the Lord, in your own feeble little mind.

You are only telling us what we already know, you are Mel, Lord Watchdog and Brad, but who am I. You are too stupid to work it out and it must be killing you, rofl.

We all know about your extreme right wing ideals, which under normal circumstances would make you even more Telstra than Sydney Lawrence. These ideals include holding a grudge against our aboriginal friends simply because of their colour.

You disgrace.

Say hello to Dan for me.

Wow! What a come back from the anonymous tard Mel Sommersberg -- 14/02/09 (in reply to #320123246)

I'd hardly call myself extreme right-wing, centre-right would be closer to the mark though at the end of the day you continue with character assassinations under the cloak of anonymity and at least two people have indicated that this shows a lack of credibility on your part.

Why don't you identify yourself? In absence of an answer from you I will suggest it is because you are a spineless moron who has nothing to say that is relevant to the article and the reason for that is because your intelligence level is nought, along with your ability to give yourself a name.

So are we going to see some intestinal fortitude or just more rants from a raving lunatic who should be locked up on the grounds of insanity? heh

Ha Anonymous -- 14/02/09 (in reply to #320123252)

Lmfao, like I said it's killing you isn't it. Because you are to ***king stupid to work out who I am. So like I also said to Alex (who's probably you, one of your 4 members on Nazi's r us anyway), work it out Sherlock.

But no comment on the Aborigines? Why don't you show us your *true colours*? As Elton John said, *sorry seems to be the hardest word*.

More irrelevant drivel from the anonymous troll Mel Sommersberg -- 14/02/09 (in reply to #320123255)

This isn't a forum to discuss Aboriginal affairs and this thread is about Helstra. Let's keep on topic shall we?

By the way, Dan says hullo, but he can't chat because he is far too busy working on his website - the one that you admit intimidates and terrifies you.

Even though you always manage to stray off-topic every time you speak you still fail to acknowledge that I am correct with my statements about Telstra. Given that you don't use Telstra for your connection, but once did, I am quite surprised. That proves that your responses are a petty hate campaign. What's up then? Run out of boiled lollies for your gaolbait have we?

Balls? Anonymous -- 14/02/09 (in reply to #320123256)

No dumbo, you changed the topic, not I.

The topic is NextG's 21st b'day. You changed it into a comparison between you and Sydney, claiming your tainted opinion had more creedence. So since you changed the topic to you, I went just with it and proved you wrong, as usual.

Intimidates and terrifies. Is this a joke? Or do you actually believe you clowns are Lords? rofl.

Speaking of hate campaigns, let's get back to your favourite topic, you.

So do you have any balls? If so why not repeat what you have said on NrU about our Aboriginal friends (well my aboriginal friends anyway), Rudd saying sorry etc?

Go on.

Yep, I was right again. Mel Sommersberg -- 14/02/09 (in reply to #320123257)

You don't have the courage to identify yourself so this is where the discussion ends between us in this thread. When I know who I am speaking with I will answer any question you desire to ask.

Whilst you're at it you can pick up a dictionary and read it from stem to stern - your spelling is almost as appalling as your debating skills.

No balls. Anonymous -- 14/02/09 (in reply to #320123261)

I do love fishing, lol.

The only reason you admit to who you are is because I highlighted who you are (your hatred and stupidity stands out like dogs ball - more on balls later) otherwise you'd still be hiding behind Mel Sommersberg.

Whereas you are too ***king stupid to work out who I am. So since it upsets you so, I'll give you a little hint. I have also been having a recent running battle with another brainless imbecile, apart from you.

Nothing wrong with my spelling or debating skills, thanks for your concern. I can spell moron no trouble, as I have been corresponding with one, you, for a while now.

But I see you are again having to resort to this sort of diversionary tactic, in a vain attempt to avoid answering questions, like why do you have such a *DISGRACEFUL HATRED OF ABORIGINES*? What have they ever done to you for you to say -

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Lord Watchdog (Mel Sommersberg), 2 Feb 2008: From his own website:

Quote ...alleged stolen generation', a generation of people who in reality simply don't understand that they all would have probably been dead by now if it wasn't for them being placed in foster homes" - "a bunch of ungrateful, resentful brats who are keen on big payouts...

..."What erks me the most though is the focus on Aborigines. Why the hell should someone who was removed from unfit parents be given compensation because they are black"?

"I pay taxes which will end up going towards compensation payouts for all these lazy bums who claim they have emotional issues relating to being stolen (stolen was in italic)". It's almost like they are the only people in the world with personal problems"... End

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You are a disgraceful excuse for a human being.

By the way stupid, erk is spelled irk, rofl.

So obviously you have no balls. Hey bit like your mate, he only had one, rofl.

No balls 2 Anonymous -- 14/02/09 (in reply to #320123262)

Quote Mel: 'When I know who I am speaking with I will answer any question you desire to ask'.

If you care to read my first reponse to you, I didn't ask any questions at all. I simply refuted that you were any more impartial than Sydney and gave my reasons, politely. I even said I 'didn't wish for this thread to diminish in decency'! So it was you, your thin skin and battered ego who decided to fire back and escalate, not me.

But now that it's getting too hot for you, if you wish to hide behind some lame excuse that you won't correspond until you know who I am, well it just proves your lack of conviction or how desperate you are to avoid me. After all, this hasn't stopped you from corresponding previously, even when you said you would no longer do so, rofl.

Anonymous Troll strikes again Steve -- 15/02/09 (in reply to #320123263)

What has any of this got to do with what Sydney and Mel were talking about? What has it got to do with the original thread? Who cares who you are? Obviously Mel doesn't. I don't either.

Anonymous, why don't you take your vendettas elsewhere. You are also citing from an anonymous resource (no links or traceable references) and that is almost as lame as your decision to remain anonymous.

Thanks Steve (Tyler, Austin, Gerrard, Anonymous troll?) Anonymous -- 15/02/09 (in reply to #320123276)

If you don't like what I write don't read it, simple, simpleton.

But if you can read I have already explained that it wasn't I who veered and it wasn't I who brought the tone of this thread down, I just continued. I know it's difficult for someone like you to understand anything beyond dead basic, Steve, but please try.

Funny isn't is. As soon as someone says they will no longer correspond with someone else, another who hasn't been seen before and will probably never be seen again, just happens to step in, rofl. Talk about lamers corner.

I'm not going to give a hatred website a free plug, but as you can see, the fact that the man in question is hiding , dodging and isn't denying, should tell you something.

But you keep sticking up for him, as you obviously agree with his hatred and have the same ideals, Steve. rofl.

You are a fraud Steve -- 15/02/09 (in reply to #320123279)

"But if you can read I have already explained that it wasn't I who veered and it wasn't I who brought the tone of this thread down, I just continued."

Noooooo.... You got the thread off-topic, started hurling personal diatribe and then allowed the thread to descend into attacks on personalities instead of the subject of the news article. That is dead basic fact so don't try and play down your participation - nothing you've said is relevant.

have I been here before? Dozens of times, though I am not here every day. There are other things in life.

When you quote from a source the correct protocol is to provide a reference to the source you are quoting from. This could be a link to a website, an ISBN or ISSN number if you are quoting from a book or periodical publication, or the name of a newspaper or TV channel, etc.

You can't just sit here and quote from external sources and expect people to believe what you are saying. I don't know what LordWatchdog's "own website" is so I can't see for myself whether your quote is genuine or not. Since, as Mel and Alex have said, you won't provide your name or a known alias then I am inclined to side with Mel and Alex and accuse you of being a fraud.

If you are right then prove it. Provide your name and cite references to your quoted material.

Fairy godmother Mk3 Anonymous -- 16/02/09 (in reply to #320123283)

Yeeeeeees Steve and I do know about protocol too.

But please, are you Arthur or Martha? Here is what you said just yesterday - "Who cares who you are? Obviously Mel doesn't. I don't either... But only hours later you say - "provide your name and cite references to your quoted material"... rofl. I guess it's a woman's prerogative to change her mind.

So are you Mel Sommersberg/Lord Watchdog again masquerading like before, as someone else (like you'd really admit it anyway)? Or are you perhaps one of the klansman/friends/members of his IRC? Like the Master (bater) he last sent into the fray, when he could no longer handle the heat. Perhaps you are here *looking for me to supply that link for a bit of a free plug/advert, for the hatred site you are a member of*?

I'd rather not promote such a disgraceful site, but can assure you the information is a direct copy/paste from his site. Unfortunately however and think about it, even if I did post the link, there is nothing stopping Lord Watchdog from altering the content within, as soon as I do, to then seemingly disprove what he and I both know are true. Perhaps this is the goal?

So if you are actually legit (which I doubt, you have appeared to conveniently and are too onesided) use a little ingenuity and find the site yourself or just read between the lines. But afterwards, if you'd still rather side with a hate filled racist, feel free to do so.

Perhaps you are simply showing us all your own true colours (no pun intended) Steve?

I'm legit, are you? Steve -- 16/02/09 (in reply to #320123347)

If you have a problem with someone's website you should take the issue up with them via e-mail, not on another forum that has absolutely nothing to do with the subject matter that only you seem to be interested in. If you don't get what you want the next step would be to lodge a formal complaint with the uplink provider. Since you refuse to offer a link to the quoted text there's no way anyone can judge for themselves the authenticity of what you are quoting.

For the record I have nothing to say on what you've quoted and not only because I can't verify that this person that you hate so much has said it but because I don't have a point of view on the issue - here or anywhere else. I also don't have a point of view on Telstra's speed improvements as I don't use cable or mobile internet connections although I note that if a speed improvement takes place it would obviously benefit people that have these types of connections.

My main motivation for posting in this thread is that you have personal issues with another poster/posters that should be dealt with elsewhere and your way of trying to discredit those people is illegitimate because you have failed to account for the burden of proof that lies with you when making some of the accusations you have made.

Since you've gone to the effort to quote, or perhaps misquote someone, provide evidence that the material acutally exists or shut it. Stating that you "assure" the quoted text exists doesn't cut the mustard. Since we don't even know who you are then what sort of guarantee can you possibly provide? Even if you are telling the truth there are other factors that come into play, such as did you quote the entire article? Are you taking what you've read out of context?

I'm on no-one's side. Not yours or Lord Watchdog's, not anyone else's. But you have accused him of being partial, yet you do the same thing yourself with all this damning evidence you claim to have.

Link supplied. JAT -- 16/02/09 (in reply to #320123358)

I gave you what you wanted moron. The link is there.

And again for all the dummies
http://iserv.com.au/default.asp?t=485

There's no misquoting no excuses, so if that's no good, well you are definitely on his side and a disgraceful racist too.

@ I'm legit - now are you? JAT -- 16/02/09 (in reply to #320123358)

I'm legit Steve, now are you? What do you have to say now Steve?

BTW, I do not hate Mel nor Sydney Mike nor anyone else.

What I do hate is racist hatred, big mouthed bigots and those who believe their opinions are more important or worthy than everyone else's.

This is why I have targeted Mel and Sydney Mike, who attack any and everyone (including each other - until I came along, rofl).

They are simply now getting some of their own back. But thanks for your input.

You are illegitimate Steve. -- 16/02/09 (in reply to #320123362)

"This is why I have targeted Mel and Sydney Mike, who attack any and everyone (including each other - until I came along, rofl)."

So in other words you are a hypocrite.

It shows that there should be a licence for Internet use and I don't mean out of a cereal box.

By the way, I thank your mate for the link. iServ is a fantastic place and I have signed up.

What a surprise, rofl JAT -- 16/02/09 (in reply to #320123367)

Wow what a revelation Steve, Mel or whoever you claim to be at the moment.

It was obvious that you were/are a grub, racist all along, that's why I waited until the thread was a week old and dead to all but me and you nazi's, before supplying a link to Nazis r Us, rofl. So all you have really done is proven beyond a doubt, that you and your type are disgraceful human beings.

You have just joined, lol. As if you aren't Mel or one of his suck boys, and already one of the other 4 members of the thriving amateur hour. lol.

But you have just proven what a moron you are, because you importantly have just revitalised me and given me the resolve I was starting to lose.

Yes I was considering just not bothering with anymore, but you have now given me more reasons to continue my little games into the future, so thanks.

Oh I almost forgot Sieg Heil.

What a surprise, rofl Anonymous -- 17/02/09 (in reply to #320123376)

A typical reply from you JAT, you really do need to seek treatment and professional advice.

Typical indeed JAT -- 17/02/09 (in reply to #320123409)

I am not the one who hates someone simply because they are a different creed or colour to me, ANONYMOUS TROLL.

But please supply your name ANONYMOUS TROLL when corresponding with me. Seems the boot is now on the other foot, ANONYMOUS TROLL. lmfao

Once again to make you feel at home, Sieg Heil.

Typical indeed Anonymous -- 17/02/09 (in reply to #320123412)

See what I mean, more nonsensical diatribe from. this buffoon Jason.

Thanks AT JAT -- 17/02/09 (in reply to #320123428)

Thank you for that nonsensical diatribe, anonymous troll.

I note with interest after all the rhetoric of me being the "anonymous troll", you are now all "anonymous trolls", yourselves, rofl at you lameness, hypocrites.

Now that there's a name behind the me, you are all too scared to go one on one, because you can't use the get out of gaol/jail free card. That being, when it get's too hot for you, you can't say - I refuse to correspond further with you/unless you put a name to you comments, as Sydney Mike and Mel Sommersberg have both done, twice now, - JAT rolls eyes and shakes head while chuckling.

So don't be shy, anonymous trolls, BRING IT ON, lmfao.

Thanks AT Anonymous -- 17/02/09 (in reply to #320123430)

JAT doesn't really suit you, RAT would be more appropriate. You certainly appear to be just as unwelcome, you stupid rodent.

WTF Anonymous -- 17/02/09 (in reply to #320123464)

Obviously JAT is getting to you, after that very intelligent come back.

re WTF Anonymous -- 17/02/09 (in reply to #320123466)

What a sad case you are Jason, JAT or more apt and to the point RAT. No you are not getting at me. Your stupid nonsense just makes me feel all the more sorry for you, as you so obviously need treatment.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Anonymous -- 17/02/09 (in reply to #320123473)

Rofl at your lameness, moron.

You are either the spineless Grand Wizard Mel or that complete dumb***k Sydney Mike or maybe the lovechild of both these ***king imbeciles, rofl.

As I said, I love fishing and look at this, I have yet another brainless ***king groper, hanging on the end of my line, awaiting my every and next move, with bated breath, rofl.

I now own you ylb.

Since I own you and dictate when you can do what, you may reply, ......................................... wait ...........wait..........wait ...............now stupid.

Cya soon predicatble mindless little ***k. Well go on what are you waiting for, I said it's ok, lmfao.

re Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Anonymous -- 18/02/09 (in reply to #320123479)

You own absolutely nothing, you brain dead moron. Which is why you wait with bated breath (which I imagine is extremely foul) for retaliatory comments to your insane remarks. I really pity anyone that has the misfortune to actually know you.

EXACTLY as I said, haha Anonymous -- 18/02/09 (in reply to #320123513)

Now mindless little ***k, go back up two comments and then x by 2, because those comments are even more pertinent today than they were yesterday.

Why? Because you did EXACTLY as I said you would. roflmfao...

Cya again, when you do exactly as I say (x 2), because I own you, ylb.

re Anonymous Troll strikes again Anonymous -- 16/02/09 (in reply to #320123276)

Now and again this guy (Jason) puts a name to his nonsensical diatribes. The guy is f.....g insane, and not worth giving time of day to. Hey Jason, go back to your cave, you idiot, and leave the debating to those that have the skills you so obviously lack.

Sherlock Mike JAT -- 16/02/09 (in reply to #320123326)

Well look what the cat's dragged in.

Sydney Mike has 'ironically joined us under the cloak of anonymity or as an 'anoymous troll', if you like, lmao. Boo anonymous troll.

Isn't it ironic too, when you or Mel have been hemmed into a corner, you have both then said, you will no longer correspond with me (but you both couldn't control yourselves and immediately did and continue to do so, lol), but for that short period when you didn't correspond, until the heat was off, magically you both had/have other people who haven't previously been involved, come to your defence? You pair of poor sorry predictable, halfwits.

But of the two big mouthed, bigotted morons I chose to play with, I always thought Mel was far more intelligent than you Mike. In fact I thought you were a dumb***k. But it seems you are the one who finally has put the obvious 2 + 2 together, rofl.

But how about that! When the chips are down and both of your lies are found out, mortal enemies unite - strange bedfellows! Telstra's #1 hater and #2 fanboi, all lovey dovey and live for one night only!

Perhaps you should call yourselves "Simon and F*** knuckle"? But which one is Simon?

Scientific experiment JAT -- 16/02/09 (in reply to #320123350)

Actually, nonsensical diatribes doesn't sound like a Sydney Mike term, so just in case and to prove that I am fair, I apologise to you Sydney Mike just in case that was someone else, trying to emulate you.

So I've reconsidered, let's do the scientific experiment after all.

http://iserv.com.au/default.asp?t=485

Now I will be keen to see if this was a ploy for free advertising or whether Mel has the balls to stand by these disgraceful racist comments or whether he'll change the words within?

Regardless it is all part of the fun, rofl.

re Scientific experiment Anonymous -- 17/02/09 (in reply to #320123357)

JAT,Jason or whatever you wish to call yourselk, why don't you just go away, because nothing you say is ever intelligent, topical or worth reading.

@ scientific JAT -- 17/02/09 (in reply to #320123405)

FYI - I had planned to do so, until your Grand Wizard decided to supply 'more' lies, deceitfulness and play stupid games, so I am here to stay, get used to it, Adolf.

But thank you for those words of wisdom, ANONYMOUS TROLL, rofl.

Sieg Heil diddums.

http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/communications/soa/Next-G-to-turn-21-next-week-/0,1 Anonymous -- 20/02/09 (in reply to #320123413)

Why don't you **** off, you boring ****.

Anonymous Trolls with NO ideas Alex Cross -- 14/02/09 (in reply to #320123076)

Both Sydney and Mel make good debate on ZDNet, it's up to the intelligent observer to ignore the rant and glean the positive points. So regardless of their ideas, at least they have ideas, you have none.

What exactly do you offer to the debate Anonymous, except your own biased opinion of Mel? You seem to think you know a lot about him, how about offering a bit of information about yourself, and your own allegiances to Telstra?

Do you even have a position on this article or are you just here to deride the commentators who are actually offering information?

My suggestion to you is to get a name, and then get an informed opinion, otherwise you are just another lame troll clogging up an otherwise lively debate.

Telstra in my opinion has made a good move here. They need to bounce back after the NBN and this is a way for them to move forward. Even if I do not use Telstra's services, if they raise the bar they force all other ISPs to follow suit and that is a good thing.

I'm with Sydney on this one, Go Australia, Go Telstra!

Alexander the great - NOT Anonymous -- 14/02/09 (in reply to #320123239)

Yes thank you Alex your input was invaluable. If you want to know more abourt me work it out, Sherlock.

anti-Australian? Simon -- 12/02/09 (in reply to #320123012)

Sydney, I don't care about your "marketing" of Telstra as something more than a very ordinary telco, nor your fantasies about the service levels they deliver. I do get very upset when you invoke the anti-Australian rubbish. Take your US styled dogma and emigrate to the US where they appreciate that sort of rubbish.
Telstra is a private company. It is not an Australian icon nor is it special in any way. It is a telco. It doesn't even develop world leading technology any more but simply imports it from elsewhere. Australians have never been a flag waving bunch of loonies and I hope we never do. Stick to commentry and keep the dogma to yourself.

@anti Anonymous -- 12/02/09 (in reply to #320123074)

Ah yes, private company to help today's argument. Tax payer built and owned company to help tomorrow's argument.

Constant argy bargy about Telstra Anonymous -- 12/02/09

Why is that whenever Telstra is mentioned we get reams of useless argy bargy and name calling?

None of these telcos are any good as we have seen. Everyone has problems of some sort no matter who they deal with.

I have my home phone with Telstra and my internet with Optus. I had a bundle with Optus then they doubled my phone rent after a few months so I took it back to Telstra. I also have my mobile on Telstra and no complaints about that in over 10 years.

Lest anyone think I have any liking for Telstra, let me tell you I worked for them for 21 years and at the end they treated me like shxt - as they do many of their employees - American ones excluded of course.

My internet is with Optus 'cos I get a much better deal with them than BigPond could even dream of offering. Finally I refuse to deal with BigPond because of Justin Milne. He totally destroyed Ozemail who I used for years before he came along.

I can't comment on downtime as I have been pretty lucky with Optusnet, both when I was on dialup and in the last few years on ADSL1. Yes their Indian call centres are shxt but what can you do. Guess I am lucky I've had good service all these years. I know it is not guaranteed and there'll come a time when I will be screaming blue murder - I'll just have to learn the right Hindi swear words to get my point across.

East, West, Homes the best. Sydney Lawrence -- 13/02/09

Happy to see that sensible comment still continues on ZDNet. I am in Hawaii and the cost of Internet precludes me from making full reply to earlier Posts except to say that I look happily to my return to Australia and the superior and economical use of Telstra services.

Also, what has happened to the NBN, so eagerly sought by some foreign interlopers with greedy eyes on the $4.7 billion offered by the Rudd Government? From conservations with some Americans, I am advised that in the present investment climate financial backing for such a NBN would be extremely difficult.

re East, West, Homes the best. Anonymous -- 14/02/09 (in reply to #320123129)

Well said Sydney. It's a pity a few more commentators here are unable to do a "real world" comparison. Then they migh realize how reasonably well off they are, with Telstra.