Next G speeds hit by glitch

Telstra suffered a taste of Optus' woes last week as an upgrade for its Next G mobile network went awry, cutting customers' speeds back.


(Credit: Telstra)

One customer said he was experiencing speeds of 794Kbps when he normally was able to achieve 2,500Kbps. Others dropped further to 25Kbps.

The customers affected were in "a small number of locations" in Queensland, according to Telstra. The affected users, who posted their problems on broadband forum Whirlpool, thought their connections had been ruined by Queensland's recent storms. However, it was not the storms which caused the problem, according to a Telstra spokesperson, but instead a software glitch.

"As a consequence of a planned software upgrade to the Next G network, an unexpected fault adversely impacted data speeds at a small number of locations in Queensland last week," they said.

Telstra's "monitoring and performance management promptly identified and isolated this matter" leading to a correction being applied progressively to the network, the spokesperson continued, saying there were no further performance problems in the region which the telco knew of.

The telco did not say which upgrade caused the problem. It has recently activated technology to allow its network to carry speeds of up to 21Mbps.

Telstra's network glitch came after the telco launched a set of advertisements bagging the unreliability of its competitor's networks. The ads featured various situations in which a mobile has no coverage, causing its users inconvenience.

"If your network's letting you down, try the network that works better in more places," the advertisement said. The ads appear timed to capitalise on its main competitor Optus' recent spate of network incidents.

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Talkback 19 comments

    Getting milage Mel Sommersberg -- 09/12/08

    Graemlins can affect any company but this does reflect the policies of many where software upgrades are just rolled out willy-nilly without first rolling out to a test environment so that bugs can be found and squashed before customers are affected by them.

    Re: Getting milage Tom Storey -- 09/12/08 (in reply to #320118371)

    I think you will find that Telstra are a little more organised than simply rolling out new firmware "willy nilly". They are not your average backyard telco that hopes for the best (though sometimes you do have to wonder).

    Telstra from the technical perspective is a very clever and professional company. I just wish the same could be said about most of their management team, they are the troublemakers that give Telstra its bad name.

    More than speed issues! And it's NOT fixed! Anonymous -- 09/12/08

    Fixed last week? No known performance issues in the region?

    Rubbish!

    More than just speed problems, DNS lookup failures, connection failures, connection timeouts, partial page draws... barely usable for 4 weeks+.

    Reported numerous times over that period to BigPond support who assured me that there are definitely no problems...LOL

    As of late last night (8/12/08), the problem was still affecting the Toowoomba area in SE Qld making Next-G Broadband completely unusable. No issues this morning, but I'm expecting it to become unusable again later this morning (as usual).

    Telstra Country Wide informed me yesterday afternoon (8/12/08) that the problem was still being worked on. I wish Telstra Sydney HQ were as honest and concerned as the regional TCW people.

    Meanwhile... Mel Sommersberg -- 09/12/08 (in reply to #320118372)

    They still expect to get paid each month.

    People who read this CFM -- 09/12/08 (in reply to #320118372)

    This journalist takes her reports from whirlpool , which its majority of users are anti telstra people, the same people who comment on whirlpool, likes to ignore what happen to optus or any other competitors to telstras. what makes you laugh is that the anti telstra people on whirlpool still trys to blame telstra for optus and the other isps who do things wrong.

    So people just ignore people who take stufff from whirlpool as competition proganda

    Re: People who read this Anonymous -- 09/12/08 (in reply to #320118458)

    Personally I found the article reasonably balanced (at least as far as media goes these days anyway).

    Whirlpool is a very large community of people who have a diverse range of views on many topics. IF it were true that the majority of people who contribute to Whirlpool are "anti-telstra" then one could only draw the conclusion that a large number of people have become "anti-telstra" through experience of poor service from Telstra.

    There are plenty of "pro-Telstra" users on Whirlpool so I guess we should ignore them as well - Oh, so you're Pro-Telstra too are you? Should we ignore you too?

    Meniga

    Using that logic Brett -- 10/12/08 (in reply to #320118467)

    If I walked into a brothel I would assume that all people are either hookers or will pay for the pleasure. Whirlpool is a place that the naysayers like to congregate, you find the small number of purists that try to use it for information while the rest just want to act like whinging poms!

    Those that read here..... Those In The Know -- 09/12/08 (in reply to #320118458)

    The learned are "Anti-Telstra"

    You have to wonder why!

    As for the above comment, need I say more?

    Re: Whirlpool Anonymous -- 10/12/08 (in reply to #320118458)

    Yes Whirlpool isn't a true representation of Australian's thoughts... despite being one of Australia's most visited sites and the largest online forum in the country :p

    I think you'll find people are just as quick to complain about other companies on there when they have issues.

    Re "Whingepool" Anonymous -- 10/12/08 (in reply to #320118493)

    .....more like a group of narrow minded "geeks" that that love to wallow in anything Anti-Telstra!!

    Yawn... Anonymous -- 10/12/08 (in reply to #320118510)

    We are yet to hear any reasoning from you, all we get is flaming. Why do you believe members of Whirlpool are against Telstra? Do you think they are all have shares in other ISP's?

    Thats it? Anonymous -- 10/12/08 (in reply to #320118458)

    Is that all you've got, anti-Telstra?

    You cant even explain your reasoning, anyone that disagree's with Telstras practices is simply anti-Telstra. For your information, all the Optus issues were reported on the news page.

    Educate yourself, then come back and talk to the big boys.

    Telstra -- still spinning Anonymous -- 09/12/08

    "Fixed" is a bit optimistic on Telstra's part. It's improved since the problem started 2-3 weeks ago but it's a long way from fixed. Lookup failures and slow page loads continue north of Gympie.

    And if this software upgrade was in fact to activate the much hyped 21Mbps speed bump (bit pointless when the hardware still maxes out at 7.2) then I'd like Telstra to tell me why, with a 7.2 Gateway and a consistent 'high' reception, the maximum line speed I've ever been able to achieve is less than 1.5Mbps, and frequently below 700Kbps.

    Re: Telstra -- still spinning Anonymous -- 09/12/08 (in reply to #320118379)

    This is because the speeds quoted are *shared* amongst every user.

    So if the total capacity (i.e. the figure they claim "up to") is 21mbps, and you have 10 users contending for it, *theoretically* the maximum any one user will get is "up to" 2.1mbps.

    And of course, your surrounding environment and other factors all conspire against you to reduce that figure even more.

    You have to love how the marketing guys always like to quote the "perfect world" scenario.

    i want network reliability! Anonymous -- 10/12/08

    my virgin mobile broadband keeps dropping every 5 mins during peak hours. and i cannot get adsl broadband because of hellstra's pair gains.
    i can get better internet quality in zimbawae than here.

    Sydney Lawrence & Co. are MIA! Anonymous -- 10/12/08

    Well, where are all the comments from the likes of Sydney Lawrence, Ned Kelly and Reality Check???

    I suspect they've tucked their tales between their legs and withdrawn to their NWAT sanctuary...

    If he were truly impartial and rational, Sydney Lawrence would have been in here and on the APC article, posting appeals to those affected by these service disruptions to take their cases to the various authorities and complain about being fraudulently being sold products that do not work. Just like he did when he pounced upon the Optus mobile outage not so long ago.

    I guess this just goes to show that Tel$tra also has imperfections within it's network, but Sydney & Co. seem to be quite selective in what they will acknowledge or criticise...

    mia, no. somewhat puzzled, yes neddyboy (formerly ned kelly. l-o-n-g story, lmao) -- 10/12/08 (in reply to #320118536)

    rofl.

    thanks for the mention, but as i have said, i do not take sides. nor do i recall criticising optus, although i may have because they deserved it.

    this time i agree wholeheartedly telstra deserve it. maybe even doubly so, after giving it to optus for their issues.

    just because you are pro optus, terria anything but telstra, dont mistake my negative position on terria as a pro telstra position. yes i had a go at terria, because i believed they were frauds and after telling us all, how committed they were to us, the poor down trodden consumer, they proved they were frauds by not bidding.

    but at the same time i was criticising terria, i was also criticising telstra too. if in doubt check here.

    http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/communications/soa/Terria-gets-unions-on-board/0,130061791,339293115,00.htm

    in its simplest form, lets forget which company it is and agree that this situation wasn't acceptable when it occurred previously, with one company, and isnt acceptable this time with another company. period.

    To Ned, with understanding... Anonymous -- 10/12/08 (in reply to #320118547)

    Sorry to have 'tarnished you' Ned, with the same brush as Sydney & Co. - but recently you seemed to have closed one eye and seemed to be as 'unbalanced' as he and his NWAT mates are...

    ***Still no sign of Sydney & Co - WFT?***

    Anyway NeddyBoy, here's an update from the APC article on this story which you'll probably not see on NWAT:

    This is actually m121180 who started the forum post.

    First of thank you for writing this but unfortunately it appears that nobody but us cares as the problems are still there and I've yet to hear anything from Telstra.

    But apparently somebody by the name of Samantha in tech support has already spoken to me about this issue... I'm now really concernced that this may all be in my head, as I've yet to speak to a female in tech support...

    Sydney & Co: Your retort fellas?

    WhirlPool.net.au Anonymous -- 11/12/08

    Whirlpool is a very valuable web site for information and conversation. The forums have lots of people complaining about services and most of it may be about Telstra, possibly for good reasons. Many people have shared technical details that I have found very useful. I encourage everyone to participate at Whirlpool, it’s free and free of ads. Have you visited www.Telstra and www.BigPond recently, if so what do you think, is it good? What about your Internet services, are you happy? At Whirlpool you can find out what other are thinking and experiencing!

    Cheers, 123G

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