Network outages 'normal': Optus

By Suzanne Tindal, ZDNet.com.au
31 October 2008 03:35 PM
Tags: optus, 3g, network, buay, telstra, mobile, ovum, outage

Optus this week claimed the 3G mobile outages it had been suffering were normal and every telecommunications carrier would be having similar issues.

Andrew Buay
(Credit: Optus)

"There have been a few incidents — which is actually quite normal for any operator and any vendor — that the new software loads under some conditions or locations don't behave the way you expect them to, despite having done very extensive testing before you bring them into the network," Andrew Buay, Optus managing director of products and delivery told ZDNet.com.au this week.

"It's quite normal," he added.

He said there had been a lot of negative media recently on whether Optus had a reliable wireless broadband network and the level of congestion on the network, but he believed that the media had fed on itself, making a big issue out of something every carrier experienced.

"I suppose mainly because we have been in the limelight, every little thing that does happen gets a lot more visibility, but you know it does happen with every operator and network in various sizes and frequencies," he said.

The attention started in July with a cable cut by non-Optus contractors that resulted in Optus customers in Queensland having phone and internet services go down. There was a considerable amount of backlash, especially from business customers and the government, although Buay did not place this outage in the same box as those which were to follow because the catalyst for the event had been an external source.

With the public eye already on Optus, the carrier experienced a series of glitches in August which affected 3G data in Melbourne, NSW, the ACT and Queensland as well as voice services in parts of Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane, due to software upgrade issues. Experts from the carrier's network vendor, Nokia Siemens Networks, were called in from Finland to help assess the situation.

Meanwhile, the iPhone which had come into stores in July and which Optus had sold a "disproportionate" number of times according to Buay, was causing complaints of its own. Optus was named as having the slowest speeds for the iPhone worldwide in a Wired survey, sparking long discussions on the carrier's iPhone performance on online forums.

Amongst these whispers of congestion over the network, Optus also experienced a 3G data outage in North Sydney and St Leonards.

To add fuel to speculation of Optus' network woes, at the start of this month, the carrier reduced the amount of data customers could download on their prepaid wireless broadband plans. This had followed the carrier's announcement that it was suspending sales of its Wireless Fusion product to "ensure we deliver an optimum experience to our customers using the product". Rumours ran wild that the network was overloaded.

The carrier then experienced problems with porting, as customers trying to move numbers to and from the carrier found their accounts stranded for days.

Last week 3G services were also disrupted at one base station following a capacity upgrade on the Optus/Vodafone 3G network at Bilgola.

Buay acknowledged the spate of incidents, which have not all been included in this list, and divided the concerns into congestion worries and outages.

He said considering Optus' aggressive expansion of its 3G network from covering 60 per cent of the population to 98 per cent of the population, and the upgrades that required, it was normal for some problems to occur.

Buay would not go into details on what the Finnish experts from Nokia Siemens Network had found when they arrived to help with the outage spanning the eastern side of the country, saying only it was like a normal "audit" of Optus' processes such as load testing before implementing upgrades to the network.

"You can go into the nth level of detail on this sort of technical issue, but our commitment is to build a robust, reliable network," he said.

As for congestion, he said it was a problem all carriers had to face.

"Because we have had very good take-up of the wireless broadband it's very typical that in certain locations during certain times of the day, you would have a bit heavier usage loading on the network," he said. "That's quite typical and as an operator, we proactively take actions to upgrade the network elements [such as backhaul]."

"Typically at any time the operator may have 3 to 5 per cent of their sites which have some level of congestion," he added.

I suppose mainly because we have been in the limelight every little thing that does happen gets a lot more visibility

Optus' Andrew Buay

He didn't believe any congestion problems could be blamed on the number of iPhone units the carrier had sold. "The number of subscribers and their usage profile in the scheme of our 7 million subscriber base is not an issue which has impacted our network," he said.

"As to whether the iPhone experience was because of the Optus network, I think you are aware that when iPhone first launched they had issues with their antenna and the operating system and it impacted all 2,100MHz networks globally, it wasn't just Optus individually," he said.

Ovum analyst Nathan Burley said there was some truth in the carrier's belief that the media hype had given it a worse report card than it deserved, but he said that there were problems. "There seem to be some issues, especially in the area of backhaul," he said.

He said Optus was seeing the consequences of entering the 3G game late and playing catch up. Telstra had the advantage of moving early, Burley said, which gave it the time to iron out its issues, while Optus as the latecomer has had to grin and bear it. "There's no doubt that they were late to the 3G game and that's cost them," he said.

As for the iPhone, Burley agreed with Buay on one point. "They are correct that a lot of the problems Optus had were replicated across the globe." However, Optus didn't get off scot-free in his opinion. "There's no doubt also that some of the issues were tied to the Optus network," he said.

Whether the underlying problems were to be expected or abnormally bad, Burley believed Optus' media persona has taken a vicious beating. "I just think this has been a PR disaster," he said.

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Talkback 49 comments

    Normal? Anonymous -- 31/10/08

    Depends on how low the bar has been set...in OPTUS case it looks you get what you pay for!!

    Cheap service and a cheap network!!

    Normal Richard Taylor -- 31/10/08

    It's normal to be in Melbourne CBD, Windsor or East Melbourne at various times of day and night and have your phone say "No Service"?

    Forget the 3G, Optus can't even provide 2G. Same locations, same phone, Voda SIM card - 5 bars every time.

    I switched to Optus after over 10 trouble-free years with Voda when the iPhone was released because of the pricing. Thankfully I only got a 12 month contract, because I'll be going back to Voda as soon as it's finished.

    Bollocks Anonymous -- 31/10/08

    Four years with 3 and fantastic connection and speed of the 3G. Two months with Optus and I have lost count of all the places around my inner city home where I have NO SERVICE or 2G...in the CBD. This PR spin crap won't fly. Customers aren't stupid these days. We know.

    Normal ... for Optus Jurgen Schaub -- 31/10/08

    I'm in a similar situation to Richard. Bad connectivity, and slow speeds when connected. I get much better speeds on Three, and much better connectivity on Vodafone. Optus has really got to shape up, or come contract-expiration time, they will lose lots of mobile activations.

    My theory is that it's all the Virgin Broadband customers using up the available bandwidth.

    Normal, lift your game Optus. Rubbishin Rubbishout. -- 31/10/08

    Optus you are not reaching for the stars are you. This is not the way to treat customers.

    THE WORST Anonymous -- 31/10/08

    Worst network in Australia. For Voice, Data and Wireless services.

    Vigin network down all over the place today Anonymous -- 31/10/08

    See http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=963376&p=-1#bottom

    Is this just another Optus symptom? Oh, I'm sorry, this is "normal".

    Contractor Anonymous -- 31/10/08

    It is normal if you dont have enough bandwidth going to the towers and the towers dont support enought cocurrent users connecting as are trying to connecting.

    Also as a excontractor i know people use that excuse a lot

    Optus Suck Anonymous -- 31/10/08

    Optus deserves all the bad media it can get. Nothing but issues all the time.

    Build a dump and live with the rats Anonymous -- 31/10/08

    Optus opted for the cheap network and we all see what happens. I work for the big bad T and a few days ago a core component of their Next G service failed, what is known as a severity 1 and as bad as you can get. Not one single active phone call was dropped and the only affected people were those trying to dial at that exact moment but when they redialed immediately after the failed connection they would have gotten through. Now that is how you design a network!

    what to expect from terria Anonymous -- 31/10/08 (in reply to #320115317)

    say hello to terria. my they are *affordable* aren't they. haha.

    No one can afford to use it Anonymous -- 01/11/08 (in reply to #320115317)

    It probably impacted no customers because no customers can afford to use the service with the bs rates Telstra charge.

    Almost all new connections for Telstra are Next G /b/ -- 01/11/08 (in reply to #320115338)

    and they hold around 55% of the market share. I don't think that would be the case if as that troll calls it Telstra charge bs rates

    Do the math Anonymous -- 01/11/08 (in reply to #320115349)

    They also provide coverage to 98-99% of the population. Optus on the other hand until recently only provided 3G coverage to about 60% of the population so no wonder Telstra is shaking in its boots about Optus rapidly extending its coverage to 98%. Until recently 40-45% of Australians had no alternative to Telstra, but now they'll have a choice, and if iPhone sales are anything to go by then Telstra is in for some real trouble.

    Trembling and tears Anonymous -- 02/11/08 (in reply to #320115363)

    Telstra is no doubt not only shaking in its boots, but would have tears running down its cheeks. A really good belly laugh will do that.

    job security Anonymous -- 03/11/08 (in reply to #320115317)

    No wonder why T cuts its staff every seasons, just a few percent a year... cutting labour cost and adds to the network redundancy... good on ya.
    so you better pray that you'll keep your job in the coming years of recession (worst if you are in the Operations), remember how much T charge for the customers and now nobody can afford the high rates... so what's next? Job redundancies...

    Hypocrite Anonymous -- 03/11/08 (in reply to #320115442)

    You defend a company that only 2 weeks ago announced they are making 2% of their network staff redundant by attacking a company for making staff redundant.

    Well done d*ckhead.

    Actually Anonymous -- 07/11/08 (in reply to #320115446)

    I don't see him defending anyone just reminding us how it is with Telstra.

    Whos the d*ckhead now eh?

    Suuthern Brisbane Bad Lands Optus = Cowboys -- 01/11/08

    South of the Brisbane River the Optus network, quite simply, doesn't work. At home, in Eight Mile Plains I get no 3G at all on my iPhone, yet the Virgin coverage map indicates I should have reception. But try telling Virgin that ... "We only need to provide GSM reception by law, blah, blah blah". On the South East Busway, parallel to the M3, one of the busiest roads in Australia, there is a daily consistent dead-zone with "No Service" between Woolloongabba and Grithith Uni.

    Hahaha, Normal??? Anonymous -- 01/11/08

    So tell me, if these outages are normal, how come they only ever seem to affect Optus?

    Don't take it anymore. Sydney Lawrence -- 01/11/08

    All those effected by unsatisfactory service from Optus should call relevant Government Departments for immediate action for legal sanctions to be implemented for false advertising and failing to provide the advertised service.

    How are those shares going? Anonymous -- 01/11/08 (in reply to #320115334)

    But if you're ever unsatisfied with the service being provided by Telstra please don't complain to the Government Departments for action.. isn't that right Sydney?

    Chalk and cheese. Sydney Lawrence -- 01/11/08 (in reply to #320115339)

    Anonymous please be advised that in the unlikely event that the Telstra superior equipment degrade to the pathetic and shabby levels of Optus I would be the first to suggest sanctions.

    Dont take it anymore dave -- 03/11/08 (in reply to #320115334)

    All those affected by telstra's unsatisfactory service and charges, and tired of australia taking it up the chuff, should call relevant Government Departments for immediate action for legal sanctions to be implemented for false advertising and failing to provide the advertised service.
    Hell i remeber telstras slogan, "we connect people" ha! not if there trying to use a payphone, feel free to call 1802244 and try to get a free call, you wont get 1 while a supervisor's around to enforce telstra policy, i can tell you! now thats a misleading slogan

    Dave the loser will use any forum to push an agenda Anonymous -- 03/11/08 (in reply to #320115483)

    This is a story about how bad Optus is, how the hell does that morf into a Telstra bagging session. How about I use every Telstra related story to bag Optus and Terria?

    but its just so easy dave -- 07/11/08 (in reply to #320115493)

    that and it only turns into a telstra bagging session when some old fool uses how bad optus is to push how good tesltra is... lol, as a telstra worker I try to bring him back to reality... but we shall see

    Congestion Anonymous -- 01/11/08

    I constantly get 500-1000ms ping time to or from my optus iphone.

    I have had better service in 3rd world countries

    normal what next Anonymous -- 01/11/08

    if optus cann't keep there network running. what will happen if they get the nbn contract ?

    Anonymous it's true. Sydney Lawrence -- 01/11/08 (in reply to #320115348)

    Absolute, total and complete disaster.

    Huh? Anonymous -- 01/11/08

    This would have to be the biggest load of BS I have ever read! Saying that all wireless networks have downtimes like Optus? Come on! I have never had any problems with Telstra on their wireless network, but when I did try Optus wireless at one stage, it was bloody atrocious!

    Agree with someone below, cheap service, cheap network.

    Virgin "Optus" 3 G iPhone Anonymous -- 01/11/08

    In Newcastle, same problem.Bought iPhone and thought it was operator error. Realised that the constant message was no service is due to Opus. Will change back to Telstra when contract expire.CEO excuse is a joke.

    Not up to Telstra Standard Anonymous -- 02/11/08 (in reply to #320115362)

    Swapped from many years with Telstra to Optus to get an iPhone at a reasonable rate, the service is patchy at best here in Newcastle. I've gone from having full signal strength at home to barely any 3G or otherwise. The other day at work I had six goes at retrieving a message from my voicemail as the connection kept dropping, and I was only 200m from the cell tower.

    backhaul Anonymous -- 01/11/08

    The ATM links simply cannot handle the traffic requirements.

    They're being upgraded with ethernet which should solve it, but it still begs the question why this wasnt planned for at the start of the rollout.

    It's not exactly a very redundant network obviously.

    Crappy aussie operations! Michael R, Brisbane -- 02/11/08

    Having enjoyed European networks I moved Down Under and telecom worries started...
    I stepped back 20 years when signing up with Optus!

    Multiple home phone & DSL outages per year, many of them lasting for hours. The worst one was just a couple of weeks ago: Mon out, Tue mostly OK, Wed out for 23.5 h, Thu & Fri out. With on explanation for comms from Optus while they were failing completely, both technically *and* customer servicewise.

    Telecom networks can be configured and maintained well and reliably. Optus is just the opposite of what it could be. Lucky me the timelock in my contracts are over so I'm free and very happy to switch.

    Disgraceful Anonymous -- 02/11/08

    My iphone is primarily a work tool for me to make and receive calls. Over the past few months I have had disruptions to my calls (or have been unable to make a calls at all!) at least once per day.
    Optus is driving me insane. I have made a complaint about not being able to make calls (on the street) or access 3G services in Nth Sydney and the issue is still occuring.
    And NO I don't want to swap over to Telstra to get ripped off by ridiculous data charges.
    Please sort this out Optus.

    Analogy Disgraceful attitude by some -- 03/11/08 (in reply to #320115437)

    Lets look at a similar example.

    Hi I just bought a cheap car, I am pissed off that when I am on the freeway I can't get to 110km/h without the car struggling abut there is no way I am willing to pay for a better quality car. I wish the manufacturer of my car will fix their act and give me a better car for the price I pay.

    You pay for a cheap car and that is what you get, pay for a cheap network and guess what happens!!!

    RE: Analogy Anonymous -- 03/11/08 (in reply to #320115439)

    The problem with your analogy is that the cheap car was not sold to your average customer as a cheap car.

    It's not like you can go to a website and have comparison data on all major networks in your area. If people knew up front that Droptus were having all these teething problems with their 3G service, I reckon a lot of people would have taken Vodafone's offer instead.

    I have been with Telstra for many years and had no issues what so ever. I left them and spent 4 years of near faultless service with Vodafone only to go and buy an iPhone from Optus 4 months ago and be greeted with spotty coverage and occasional call drop outs...

    And I spend most of my time in the Sydney CBD and inner city.

    Never had no problem myself... barry -- 03/11/08

    Been with optus for the past 5 years... The only time I havent had service is when I'm 120K's outside of Perth in the bush, and i dont expect any coverage there... my internet is ridicously fast, getting 22Mbps outta my ADSL2, so smiles there, though the limit is a lil small (only 15 gigs)... granted my mobile's internet is a little slow at times, but never gone worse than 128K's which for internet on my mobile, I'm not really going to be downloading large files...

    And syd... as for telstra network, did you want the list of work that telstra hasnt attended to in the past 6months... its all fine to rip on optus for poor infrastructure, but dont put telstra on that pedestal they fell off from long ago

    Optus is Crap!! Anonymous -- 03/11/08 (in reply to #320115462)

    Optus is Crap!!! I will be switching to Telstra!

    Double negative Anonymous -- 03/11/08 (in reply to #320115462)

    Never had no problem = Always had problems.

    Freudian slip?

    nooooooo!! muwhaha -- 07/11/08 (in reply to #320115494)

    help I'm been sucked into a freduian vortex of irony! yaarrrrrr nooooo!...... hey theres no telstra on this side of the vortex!... oh thank god :P

    Nothing else either Sydney Lawrence -- 07/11/08 (in reply to #320115746)

    No internet or phone either then i would imagine? I seriously doubt Optus would have coverage in another dimension, they have enough trouble grappling with ours

    optus coverage Anonymous -- 11/11/08 (in reply to #320115462)

    your pretty luck barry. Living in south eastern melbourne, if you go anywhere near the dandenong ranges, you get no signal the moment you start to go up the hill. You might get a signal for 2 seconds at a time here and there, but thats it. It cuts out in the city, and god help you trying to make a call during peak periods of the year. Moved onto a Telstra service and I havent had a problem, and umm realistically, with my call usage, Telstra is no more expensive.

    Even critics being swayed ? Charles -- 04/11/08

    I find it interesting that once again a negative article about Optus brings out all the Anti Telstra brigade, isn't it time to just take the facts for what they really are as opposed to which company they relate to.

    i also find it interesting that others who would quite rightly judge companies such as Telstra for some of their tactics still have the nuggets so to speak to comment on when they actually do have good products, by this I refer to a recent article pasted by Dan Warne of APC on the website somparing the bad performance of the Optus network:- http://apcmag.com/Content.aspx?id=3148

    Don't bring telstra into this James O'sullivan -- 06/11/08

    Honestly. If you can't get a good service with optus go to another carrier. If telstra charges double and optus or any other carrier don't bother servicing the area well you should move or sign a petition. stop crying because optus network sucks in your area.

    All telcos are private companies now so it's up to them if they want to expand their 3g service and keep customers or risk losing many.

    I don't have Telstra shares or anything and im not a telstra fanboy I'm just stating the truth. I don't see Telstra in the news every week for a 3g outage. 3g service is a luxury and not a universal right.

    OPTUS has Oz' broadband by the balls! rss courageous -- 08/11/08

    foreign ownership has little or no consideration for the progress of Oz's infrastructure. Singtel just want to squeeze the money money out from us all.

    TELSTRA has Oz' broadband by the balls! More Courageous -- 08/11/08 (in reply to #320115852)

    Australian ownership has little or no consideration for the progress of Oz's infrastructure. TELSTRA just want to squeeze the money money out from us all.

    free market capitalism Anonymous -- 09/11/08

    If someone is providing a service at a high price, then a foreign company comes in and pretends to offer the same service at half the price, it's called crap competition. singtel have millions of customers throughout asia they probably don't care what kind of service we're getting here.

    Vodaphone is the world's largest mobile company and honestly, their reception in Australia is the worst I've seen in the world .

    I don't see the point of their generous cap plans if when u leave the city centre of every city they're in u only get a couple of bars of reception.

    Telstra have lowered their prices alot and haven't sacrificed network quality.

    I feel sorry for any idiot who runs a business using optus 3g as a wireless service for their laptop of mobile. You might save a few hundred every year but lose heaps of customers & time in the process.

    If it was an electrical appliance I'd have my refund by now Anonymous -- 10/12/08

    Wireless Fusion !!!!!! What a joke Optus - If I had bought a fridge off you and it only kept my food cold in 'non busy times' you'd have the fridge back and I would have my money back. Legally I cant see the difference so I'm getting legal advice - I'll be 'talking to you.'

    Your 3G is good if one is prepared to only use the net when the rest of Aus Optus clients are asleep.

    Optus isnt even answering complaints anymore (2 complaint emails unanswered).

    I cant wait to give Optus the flick and it's probably worth paying the cancellation fee.

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