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Nats to vote for deferral of Telstra vote

By AAP
27 October 2009 10:17 AM
Tags: conroy, greens, minchin, nationals, nbn, senate, telstra, vote

The federal government will have to rely on the support of the entire Senate crossbench if it wants parliament to approve its plan to restructure Telstra before the end of the year.

The Nationals, who are likely to support a form of structural separation of the giant telco, want a vote on Labor legislation deferred until early 2010.

Their Senate leader, Barnaby Joyce, says his party will side with the Liberals even though he thinks Telstra's wholesale and retail arms should be separated.

He wants any restructure to retain the universal service obligation which currently requires Telstra to ensure all Australians have reasonable access on an equitable basis to the standard telephone service and payphones.

We oppose the government cynically and contemptibly using the parliament to hold a bloody great bazooka at the head of Telstra

Senator Nick Minchin

"Regional Australia has to be protected," Senator Joyce told ABC Radio on Tuesday.

To push its legislation through the upper house the government will need the support of all seven balance-of-power senators.

But there is a fundamental difference between The Nationals and their coalition partner — the Liberal Party remains completely opposed to the legislation.

Opposition communications spokesman Nick Minchin said the Rudd government needed Telstra to prop up its $43 billion national broadband network plan, and was using the legislation to force the company to the negotiating table.

"What we're opposed to is the use of the force of law to require the break-up of a major Australian company owned by 1.4 million shareholders," Senator Minchin told ABC Television.

Telstra's future in terms of whether it separates or not should be a matter for the company and its shareholders, he said.

"We oppose the government cynically and contemptibly using the parliament to hold a bloody great bazooka at the head of Telstra to force them to the table."

Minchin said that the government was treating the telco's 1.4 million shareholders "frankly, with utter contempt".

The Australian Greens are unlikely to support the deferral of a Senate vote.

"A delay would be a mistake," the party's communications spokesman Senator Scott Ludlum told reporters, adding that the Greens were ready to debate the legislation.

"I think a delay, as the coalition is proposing, only increases the chance that Telstra will come to a deal with the (Communications) Minister (Stephen Conroy) over the Christmas break," he said.

To do that would cut parliament "entirely out of the loop" from the debate.

Senator Joyce said he believed Telstra was already moving to voluntarily restructure itself, and delaying a vote would help the telco arrive more quickly to that position.

Yesterday Minister for Communications Stephen Conroy has released two key documents related to the first National Broadband Network (NBN) tending process, in an attempt to clear the way for the Senate to debate the NBN Bills.

AAP

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Talkback 8 comments

    Stand by to attack. Sydney Lawrence -- 27/10/09

    The chickens are coming home to roost for the Rudd Government.

    They have tried every trick in the book to browbeat Telstra into submission and destroy Telstra as an opponent to their proposed monopoly NBNCo.

    With Telstra holding out and Labor getting desperate the only solution for Conroy may be to offer Telstra a fair price Telstra assets.

    If not, Telstra must reject the blackmail and fight a furious battle by alerting the Australian people to the despicable actions taken against an Australian company.

    an admission by syd Anonymous -- 27/10/09 (in reply to #320389786)

    an admission at last, syd...

    "the only solution for conroy may be to offer telstra a fair price telstra assets".

    it's all about the money hey syd.

    you don't really love telstra and hate the nbn, you just want your losses back.

    Good old Syd. Anonymous -- 27/10/09 (in reply to #320389786)

    Always ready to leap to the defence of one of the lowest forms of life on the planet; Telstra. Syd I hate to break it to you and your shareholder cronies but Telstra is going to be split. Whether this happens this year, next year or a few years down the track, the company is going to be split. Instead of impotently ranting about it here why don't you divest your portfolio while it has value and then lick your wounds.

    Telstra tries to cloak itself in (im)moral rectitude, espousing competition in the market, but when you look at it's rhetoric compared to it's actions it's obvious the last thing Telstra wants is a level playing field.

    And I think that Australians would be more alarmed about 'despicable actions taken against an Australian company' if said company was not despicable in its monopolistic practises and terrible service levels delivered to those same Australians, if it wanted pity with customers (and by extension voters) it should have been concerned with improving services not bottom-lines.

    Thats right Syd there is a difference between a customer and a shareholder, Telstra will rue the day a viable alternative comes to town. It's only a matter of time.

    As for the NATS well their lack of interest in promoting market competition is clearly advertised by their actions, because [Sarcasm] Telstra have done so well delivering services to the rural regions [/Sarcasm] where NATS voter base is, that Telstra clearly deserves to be maintained as is. Nothing chnages unless something changes and Telstra is incapable of its own accord.

    @ Stand by to attack RS -- 27/10/09 (in reply to #320389786)

    Strangely but humorously, you Telstra puppets despised and attacked Mr. Howard for not helping "your" share price and are now doing exactly the same to Mr. Rudd. Two people on the complete flip side of politics! So who ever will you vote for in future, because "NO PARTY will bow to your ridiculous, share driven demands, ever"...

    OR WILL THEY?

    HERE'S A TIP - If you truly believe the Australian people support your portfolio driven ideals, why don't you and the other 2 new amigos, start the "TELSTRA PARTY" - seriously? There's a Shooters party and Marijuana party, so why not a Telstra Party?

    You'd have the unlimited resources of Telstra behind you. Daily court experience second to none! A PR/spin machine more comprehensive and cunning than any political party! The technological means to get your views across, again, better than any other! And of course you'd have the 3 smartest men [sic] in the history of history - Massonic, Ne win and Lawrence, leading the way! What more could you possibly need?

    Your campaign would simply be to eliminate every Telso/ISP but Telstra and for an automatic indexed increase of 35% p.a. (make it 50%) for TLS shares - brilliant!

    So all youd have to do is easily gain over 50% of the vote and legislate to do it! Surely with such overwhelming factual information, like that which you bring here to ZD, your obvious charisma, open mindedness and such a "selfless, caring attitude towards others [sic]" - plus Telstra, an issue so close to all Aussie hearts, you'd romp it in, eh?

    To fund raise, I'm sure you could arrange for Vince McMahon of WWE fame, to hold a 3-way, no rules, cage match, between the 3 of you. Winner would be PM - cool... My money is on Supersooooonic Massonic! But seriously, Mr. Vasso Massonic - Prime Minister of Telstra - oops PM of the Commonwealth of Australia. Has a nice "ring" (Telstra pun intended) don't you think? Plus he has all the right credentials; he won't listen to anyone else or to reason, is "never" wrong [sic] and now knows what an ex-div date is. So he IS the man, I think.

    Now I'm not taking sides mind you, you are all just as "worthy" [sic] as each other. But since Mike and Vasso, can't comprehend figures, Sydney is the logical choice for Treasurer, unless of course he wins in "da cage"! Mike you'd obviously make a very good, umm, something, somewhere - maybe to do with coffee, I'm sure?

    Well I'm convinced - bring it on. You have my vote already, so that's 1! We could float it and sell shares, yee-ha!

    So Vote #1 "The Next Generation (NextG) Telstra Party". Written and authorised by RS, campaign manager, thought provoker and all round good blokey, bloke!

    Even better Davoe -- 27/10/09 (in reply to #320389802)

    Why don't Rudd and Co put it to a national Referendum. The question being -
    "Should the power be given to the government in the forthcoming term to structurally separate Telstra?"
    Perfect strategy - no one apart from the one-eyed shareholder would be in the "No" camp. And it should get a majority of over 60 % in every state.
    But if there was a referendum would Sydney, Vasso and co accept the result.?.. probably not.

    Return of the lost. Sydney Lawrence -- 28/10/09

    Daveo and RS really do need help. I realise that to to try to answer the absolute undeniable facts that Vasso and Mike promote would be enough to unbalance the human mind and RS and Daveo are to be pitied. But help is at hand.

    It is my intention, in the spirit of compassionate humanity, to arrange for a team of Doctors, expert in the stabilization of the human mind, to work in shifts 24/7 for as long as it takes to attempt to bring Daveo and RS back to some degree of sensibility.

    ...............Return of the lost. Anonymous -- 28/10/09 (in reply to #320389844)

    Unfortunately Syd, there is no team of Doctors on this earth, expert enough to treat the terrible affliction that this pitiful RS (and all his aliases) suffers from. Up until recently, it may have been treatable, but unfortunately over the past few weeks, it has turned into an incurable ailment. Sad but true.

    Referendum now! Davoe -- 29/10/09 (in reply to #320389844)

    Come on Syddy - surely we can both support a referendum on the issue and respect what the majority of Australians want.
    The AEC has to provide funding to both sides of the argument, so it will be totally fair.
    Sydney, I propose us people both critical of Telstra and loyal supporters like you, unite to campaign for a referendum on the issue.
    What do you say Sydney?

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