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NBN plan 'tantamount to Telstra separation'

Analysts have responded to the Federal Government's new NBN strategy with optimism, noting that while risky, the plan makes an important break from years of stagnation and promises an important new foundation for Australia's broadband future.

It made no sense to proceed with the original concept because it was clearly going to get bogged down [in regulatory conflict]

Ovum's David Kennedy

Ovum research director David Kennedy, for one, sees the announcement — which will see the government ditch its plans for a fibre-to-the-node (FTTN) network and spend $43 billion over eight years to build a national fibre-to-the-premises wholesale infrastructure — as the best way for Rudd to put the government's ongoing conflicts with Telstra behind it and focus on the future.

"It became apparent during the tender process that the FTTN approach was creating a lot of problems and uncertainties around Telstra's response to the use of its copper network," he explained. "It made no sense to proceed with the original concept because it was clearly going to get bogged down [in regulatory conflict]."

"This new approach simply cuts through all of that by building out a brand new access network. It's achieving structural separation of Telstra by another approach. It's a good outcome for the industry, and a better outcome for the country."

Analysts at research firm Market Clarity were equally enthused about the announcement, pointing to the decision to launch a wholesale-only network as a sign that the new NBN was on the right track. "It would have been inappropriate to have the government as a retailer as it did when it owned Telstra," said Market Clarity associate consultant Richard Chergwin. "This bid offers a chance to align Australia's telecommunications infrastructure with that of other national infrastructure."

IDC senior analyst David Cannon pointed out that the decision was both a network investment and a way for the government to leave behind a Telstra privatisation that had fundamentally failed to deliver the benefits expected at that time.

"The government left the nation with a legacy 1900's network and at the mercy of a private organisation which has done its utmost to protect the revenues generated by the legacy network assets, which they bought at cost plus interest," he explained. "This decision will right the wrongs of the previous government's decision to sell Telstra in the manner that it was done."

Yet Telstra shareholders can expect some turbulence in the short term as the implications of the new NBN strategy and Telstra's role in that strategy becomes clear. "You cannot blame either party for the decisions they have made," Cannon explained, "but there are many losers in this whole broadband mess. Telstra shareholders have and will continue to suffer until its regulatory exposure is mitigated."

Risk, reward
Yet even as generally positive telecommunications industry players come to grips with the implications of the new network, observers are warning that the government faces a risky and difficult value proposition with an investment that will never be recouped simply through sales of basic internet services.

"Voice and wholesale internet is not going to cut it," said Ovum's Kennedy. "They will have to have considerable other applications to justify this. It's a nod to market failure, and it goes back to that chicken-and-egg situation: do you build the infrastructure and then develop the services, or is it the services that draw investment into the infrastructure? The level of risk involved in building this network is simply too high for the commercial sector alone to bear."

IDC's Cannon pointed out the new strategy presented a real opportunity for Telstra, which has substantial cash reserves it can now shift from infrastructure investment to building complementary content.

This decision will right the wrongs of the previous government's decision to sell Telstra in the manner that it was done.

IDC's David Cannon

"Telstra is arguably the most advanced player in the country in terms of over-the-top services, and will see the NBN as the reason to keep driving its services play," he explained. "It will use its large cash reserves to secure exclusive content and to enhance its hosted unified communications offerings for both business and consumer markets."

Telecommunications analyst Paul Budde, long an outspoken critic of Telstra's obstructionist policies regarding copper loop access, sees the new network as a much-desirable alternative to the FTTN and believes latent demand for broadband services will quickly see the emergence of new, revenue-generating usage models.

"The government is taking the sting out of this by basically guaranteeing the investment money for the project and also indicating the use of the infrastructure for other sectors," said Budde, who believes that healthcare applications such as telemedicine will account for 25 per cent of the new network's capacity within a short time after its eventual launch.

Education, energy and environment services could account for another 25 per cent, Budde predicted, with "traditional telecoms and internet services" making up just 25 per cent of the total volume.

"It's not that these latter services have shrunk in volume or revenue," he added. "This simply demonstrates the volume of additional growth that will be unleashed on this open network infrastructure. Healthcare can independently provide e-health services to all Australians.

Media companies could do the same if, for example, they want to finance their applications through advertising. There won't be a gatekeeper involved who clips the ticket of everything that is happening over the network."

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Talkback 35 comments

    New NBN Noel Peters -- 07/04/09

    Telstra will have to be compensated for the aquisition of their network. If not a precedent will be established and no private investment in Australian infrastructure will be without huge risk.

    lol @ Noel kane -- 07/04/09 (in reply to #320128673)

    lol blah blah Noel. Sucker share holder i presume.

    Read up mate. No aquistion needed in this case. The only thing would be the excahnges as distrubition nodes and Telstra lease most of them :).

    Also the is a whole sale only network Telstra will have to play nice if they want to use/profit off the think like all other ISP's in the country or build thier own.

    Educate yourself........ ohh thats right you were stupid enough to buy telstra shares.... no one can help you. lol :)

    lease exchanges Anonymous -- 07/04/09 (in reply to #320128714)

    What proof do you have of this? Telstra own the exchanges and others lease space from them for their network gear.

    FTTH aggregation point Anonymous -- 08/04/09 (in reply to #320128721)

    Actually, the optical fibre cable will bypass most of the exchanges and be connected to fewer, more centralised points. You can get a longer run out of an optical fibre than you can a copper pair even for plain voice services, let alone DSL.

    lol @ Noel WAL -- 08/04/09 (in reply to #320128714)

    A reasonable reply, except for the first and last sentence ???

    Einstein he aint. Sydney Lawrence -- 09/04/09 (in reply to #320128714)

    kane I suspose if ignorance really is bliss why leave your state of eternal happiness.

    lol @ Noel Anonymous -- 17/04/09 (in reply to #320128714)

    **** off Jason, you creep !

    @lol @ Noel Jason -- 17/04/09 (in reply to #320130213)

    Brad/Mel ... you're sounding more like Sydney **** everyday. No self control, no intelligence, but very colourful.

    Also refer to the 50% I spoke about to Fairy Godmother, in another thread, rofl.

    The laughs are on you Jason Anonymous -- 17/04/09 (in reply to #320130279)

    You are a complete cockhead Jason. Mel hasn't commented in this thread and the person you believe is Mel has given a point of view that he probably wouldn't concur with.

    It proves what Mel said the other day about you having little Mel Sommersbergs coming out of your back pocket. The fact that your life revolves around your 24 hour existance on here solely to provide a running commentary demonstrating what a goose you are proves that you are nothing but a psycho-obsessive lunatic who needs a great deal of professional help.

    I've been watching and participating in here for some months and one can't help but realise that there are leaders and followers - you are one of the followers and always will be.

    @the laughs on you. Anonymous -- 17/04/09 (in reply to #320130281)

    Everything you just said right back at you, SPINELESS ANONYMOUS IDIOT HECKLER.

    Perhaps you are another SACKED TELSTRA VOLUNTEER and that's why you race to the defence of the indefensible, haha.

    Funny you should mention Brad not commenting here, because I hadn't either until you, Sherlock, decided that one of these was me? Speaking of that nasty ****head word.

    That's where the 50% comes into it, stupid.

    http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/communications/soa/No-NBN-winner-Govt-goes-FTTH-alone/0,130061791,339295839,00.htm#320130014

    But while ever you choose to reply daily and always on behalf of Brad, Mel or whatever other name he is using today, I can only assume you are him. Why else would you bother (again all of the above right back at you).

    So obviously Brad, you are a true leader with such gems as **** off Jason, you creep. Keep up the Tennyson like verse, brainiac.

    @laughs on you, even more now Brad Jason -- 17/04/09 (in reply to #320130282)

    Anonymous idiot heckler who ISN'T Brad/Mel.
    Interesting observation, oh "anonymous" one.

    Sorry to be a nuisance, lol, but it seems you mispell the word existence by spelling it existance.

    Now I'm not here to criticise spelling mistakes like some, but did you know that Brad/Mel mispells the exact same word, the exact same way you mispell it?

    I did correct him previously with non existEnt?

    But how about that, what a coincidence eh, 1 in a million??? Hahahahahahahaha.

    No reply necesary from any or all of you, Brad roflmfao. But feel free, haha.

    Says he who litters his dribble with SMS acronyms Mel Sommersberg -- 18/04/09 (in reply to #320130285)

    Jason, your posts, aside from being the usual littany of filth and personal attacks, could also be used to snuff you out when you go under the cover of an Anonymous tag, just like you did with the post above.

    Speaking of spelling errors, is it really "necesary" [sic] to post the same BS more than once in the same thread?

    Seriously though Jason, the posts above that you think are mine aren't but I'll admit that at times I've sent mates of mine here to bag you out - you do deserve it. That is a policy I will continue to operate by.

    roflmfao lol hahaha psml

    Hello Braaadleeey are you in a coma? Jason -- 18/04/09 (in reply to #320130361)

    Oh Mr. existEnt, SACKED TELSTRA VOLUNTEER (haha), Brad/Mel

    Again you miss the point, which is why info needs to be sent multiple times to you, it obviously takes a while to penertrate through the layers of shi* between your skull and brain.

    It's not the spelling errors, shi* happens. It's the lameness of you posting, claiming to be someone else, talking about the wonderful Mel. The exact spelling error you always make just proves it was you, talking about yourself, "moron".

    Plus Braaadleeey, I have said all along you aren't man enough to take me on alone and now you claim you are "sending others"! Hahahahahaha, you spinless, lame, SACKED TELSTRA VOLUNTEER. I also said that was because you are too insecure, due to being bullied at school, so you found an outlet, by sitting behind a pc and screaming abuse at everyone. Seems I was right again. My tuths really cut deep don't they "imperforate anus".

    So if some snivelling little klansman, replies to me "on your behalf" he will be treated accordingly and referred to as Brad/Mel.

    But make up your mind. Previously you said you sent the Master (bater) then, said you'd never sent anyone, now you are again saying you have sent others. Hellooo, as I said you tell so many lies you lose track of them, don't you.

    But oh please, enforce your policy, since you aren't man enough. So if they are your friends (rofl, they must be the absolute ***king dregs to be your friend Adolf) bring them on,.

    I'd say about 10 of you snivelling little conservative worms, would make it fair.

    The only thing you've ever proven is that you never go outside Mel Sommersberg -- 18/04/09 (in reply to #320130385)

    Jason, again you have proven to be a liar, a deceitful little grub, an Internet addict and a hypocrite. Again you've taken the task of bullshitting and turned it into an artform. I haven't missed any points as you haven't raised any, apart from the usual negative and irrelevant personal diatribe and falsehoods that you rehash in every post you make.

    Unlike you, I've been out all day and enjoyed myself thoroughly. You've been sitting here for the last six hours waiting for a reply - so sad.

    I'm your hero, you said and you claim you aren't a liar, rofl. Jason -- 18/04/09 (in reply to #320130414)

    Brad/Mel, you can't have changed your tune in just a few days?

    Mel Sommersberg -- 13/04/09 ..."You are so good Jason, you are my hero".

    Why thanks Brad (Mel Sommersberg, Lord ((haha)) Watchdog, Steve, Anonymous, Idiot Heckler and other names) that's most astute of you. See you can do it if you put your mind to it, good boy, Braaadleeey.

    To reciprocate, if you weren't such a racist, selfish, lying, fascist kutomba (that's Swahili, moron) and of course not to mention the only SACKED VOLUNTEER (haha) in history (oops, I just mentioned it, sorry) YOU STILL WOULDN'T BE MY HERO. But at least you would then have evolved greatly, to dog or even sub-human.

    Thanks again Brad, when you grow up and if you pray every night for forgiveness for being such a cretin, you'll maybe one day be just like me; a hero/idol/champion, GOD to a no hoping ({}) just like you! Roflmfao.

    Now go and play with your ***king radio's instead of your ***k, idiot.

    huh Anonymous -- 18/04/09 (in reply to #320130432)

    What radios?

    Envy is a deadly sin Mel Sommersberg -- 19/04/09 (in reply to #320130435)

    Anonymous, good question. Jason is jealous of my antique collection. Unlike Jason, who has never told us what he does with his spare time, I put my time to uses that are generally a bit more constructive. I spend a fair amount of time collecting and restoring old radio equipment and the benefits of doing it are many: saving appliances from going to the tip, learning about how electronics worked before the solid-state era, having an investment for the future and learning how to develop and host a comprehensive website that pertains to all of the above. Jason can't comment on the forums there either - the discussion is a bit too mature for him to understand.

    Envy? Mr existEnce/Mr assumer, roflmfao. Jason -- 19/04/09 (in reply to #320130483)

    Ooh up nice and early on a Sunday Brad/Mel. Couldn't sleep because you were waiting in anticipation to hear from your hero. That's totally understandable Bwaaadleeey!

    Mr existEnce and Mr. assumer, you don't know what I do in my spare time, but you are more constructive? How can that be when you admit you do not know what I do. For all you know I may sky dive, race cars, make adult movies or even more on the edge - collect ***tty old radios, lol!

    To explain in layman's terms what Bwaaadleey is saying above, when on the rare occasion he isn't trying to revenge his SACKING AS A VOLUTEER (haha) FROM TELSTRA'S IRC by bagging them (he's also, spent ever since starting his own IRC/Website, simply out of spite, rofl), or being Grand Wizard at little Johnny's very own Bennelong KKK, bar & Grill, Bwaaadleeey collects **itty old radios too, lol.

    So bagging Telstra at every forum, blog, IRC including his own, wearing a white hood/cloak and collecting old radios. What a party animal you are, imperforate anus, roflmfao. Yes, wow, I am most ENVIOUS of your jet-setting, playboy lifestyle, haha.

    BUT SERIOUSLY BRAD/MEL, SINCE YOU WEREN'T MAN ENOUGH TO DO AS YOU PROMISED (even after I dared you on multiple occasions, lol) ANYTIME YOU WOULD LIKE "ME TO THEREFORE EXPLAIN IT ALL TO YOU AND EDUCATE YOU", JUST ASK. ALL NASTINESS AND NAME CALLING ASIDE. AFTER DOING SO I "MAY" EVEN LEAVE YOU BE? But seems you are a bit afraid of the truth and prefer the ...k off Jason, you f...wit approach!

    Plus you maybe surprised at how much I do actually know about valves/tubes? Especially in some of the old McIntosh gear, like the MC-240 stereo amp. I'm quite fond of the warmth of nice old Mullards and Tung-Sols! Ooh, since you went fishing, was that a little hint/bite for you Bwad?

    Wanna another hint? You pretty much summed "us" up above, as you have done previously on occasions, without even realising it!

    Have a nice day Bwad, your hero Jason.

    Sounds like another dyck trying to worm his way out of a spot JasonSucksDogsBalls -- 19/04/09 (in reply to #320130490)

    Sounds like you were fishing for a scapegoat from his website you f$cking goose. Its not so bad now ay.

    agree Anonymous -- 19/04/09 (in reply to #320130506)

    yeah agreed, mel summersberg does it all the time.

    Agree Anonymous -- 19/04/09 (in reply to #320130513)

    He was talking about Jason you fool.

    agree Anonymous -- 19/04/09 (in reply to #320130541)

    he was talking about mel you fool.

    @Sounds like Jason -- 19/04/09 (in reply to #320130506)

    Oh bwaaadleeey pwecious wascist, fancy having to bring muuuumy into the debate, because you don't have a backbone, rofl.

    AWOL Brad! Jason -- 20/04/09 (in reply to #320130483)

    SACKED TELSTRA VOLUNTEER, Brad, also known as Mel Sommersberg, Lord Watchdog, anonymous and many more names, including a number of newies!

    I see you've yet again gone AWOL and Mr Hyde has magically reappeared (yawn) how predictably lame. But it appears Mr Hyde now has an adversary, rofl, classically priceless.

    To the point, since you have again dodged the issue. I simply said; if you want me to enlighten you about our correspondences, all you have to do is ask.

    It's not a trick question. So if you are half the man you think you are, what are you so afraid of?

    Ask away, what have you got to lose? Apart from what's left of your already battered ego, non existEnt integrity and the 1% pride, I have left in tact, for now, of course!

    Not quite Mel Sommersberg -- 20/04/09 (in reply to #320130691)

    I'm still here Jason, watching you act like a terminal imbecile. I just don't happen to spend as much time here as you obviously do. There is life outside your little world and when I choose to wipe my feet on it I do so on my own terms and not when you or anyone else requires it.

    I finish this comment by advising you that you haven't even scratched the paint on my self esteem let alone dented it. If you think you have made me a lesser man by the stupid and inane crap you talk then you grossly under-estimate my cunning and gumption.

    You'll never win Jason and further to that, you'll never even come close.

    Well.... now you've talked the talk, it's time to walk the walk! Yeah right!!! Jason -- 20/04/09 (in reply to #320130692)

    AND AGAIN. It's not a trick question. So if you are half the man you think you are, what are you so afraid of? Just ask.

    Yes agreed, you are cunning. But not in a manly or ingenious way, more in a "whimpy, girly", lying and conniving sneaky, unethical, plague ridden sh**house rat, mould. Which is exactly what both you and I are demonstrating right now as you desperately try connive your way out of backing that big mouth AGAIN.

    The only gumption you have is in your kitchen cupboard. IA.

    You haven't scratched the paint aye, rofl? BUT YOU ADMIT THAT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO ASK OTHERS TO COME HERE AND POST AS ANONYMOUS TROLLS TO PERSONALLY ATTACK ME, lmao. Funny, previously you have condemned both Anonymous and personal attacks, but now you encourage both to save your skin.

    Perhaps you aren't embarrassed by your own lies being highlighted? But everyone knows now why you bag Telstra (sacked Telstra volunteer) and have placed you in the same, "never trust these biased comments category" as Sydney, rofl

    OK BALLS (sorry in your case ball) TIME. IF I WILL NEVER WIN OR NEVER EVEN COME CLOSE, PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY? AND I WILL CEDE IMMEDIATELY AND NEVER RETURN - ooh. And unlike you, my word actually has meaning! So, go on then.

    But my guess is, as usual now that the gauntlet has been thrown down, that one nut of yours will shrivel and you will show once again you can only talk the talk, but NEVER walk the walk.

    Prove me wrong and say bye to me? SACKED TELSTRA VOLUNTEER (haha). We'll see...not!

    Setup a new blog space... Simon -- 21/04/09 (in reply to #320130700)

    ZDNet, can you set up a blog space for Mel, Jason, Anon and the others. They can then fire off shots **** for tat and put each other down at will. This will leave the rest of the posts discussing and providing feedback, on the posted storeies.

    I for one am really sick of the pointless castigation.

    Lol Renai LeMay -- 21/04/09 (in reply to #320130777)

    Potentially a good idea Simon but a bit hard to implement in practice ;)

    Renai
    News Editor
    ZDNet.com.au

    @Set up a new blog space Jason -- 21/04/09 (in reply to #320130777)

    Simon, most "intelligent people" can plainly see that I am an unabashed s**t stirrer, here looking for a little comic relief and nothing else, at the expense of a few egotistical, self appointed telco boffins/resident big mouths.

    I sincerely apologise if my "in you face" approach has offended you. But these same "intelligent people" can recognise my playfulness and simply ignore my antics?

    However, I note that "you" have been "unable" to ignore me now on a couple of occasions, so...

    No need Simon Mel Sommersberg -- 21/04/09 (in reply to #320130777)

    Simon, you will find that if flamebaiters Jason were a little less frequent in venting their spleens for the fun of it, as Jason just admitted then you would find the quality of the debate here would lift almost instantaneously.

    It could be argued that if I completely ignored Jason then we'd be 1/8th the way there but that is a moot point, given his admission to what motivates him. If you rewind the tape to around last October you will note that your little problem didn't exist. Why? Because Jason wasn't here.

    Given that he has openly admitted to having the mental age of 5 it would be much easier for ZDnet to adopt the suggestion I gave them about 18 months ago - make the users of this forum register. Since ZDNet already has a registration mechanism, to which I signed up umpteen years ago, it would be a simple matter of interfacing the two. Then if a member with Jason's modus operandi starts insulting users and degrading the quality of the discussion for his own personal enjoyment it would be a very simple matter of banning them.

    I and the owner of two websites with forums and a manager on another. I don't seem to have this trouble there because people like Jason are not welcome there. He only comes here because ZDNet openly allow his brand of 'fun'.

    I don't think it is morally correct to lump me in with Jason because I chose to defend my reputation against his constant lies and deceit. If you'd bother to backtrack on the numerous threads that Jason has commented you will notice a pattern - Jason only comments in reply to me or those people he believes may be me and he only comments afterwards and not before.

    Personally, I don't give a damn about Jason though I am concerned about the problem you have addressed. But if you and ZDNet want what I want - better quality discussions there is only one practical way to deal with it and strangley enough it is not hard to roll out.

    Back when I put my suggestion to ZDNet they replied by saying that it could be done but would affect the popularity of the forums. I disagree respectfully. ZDNet is a big website owned by a big company and lots of people visit. There is no reason why requiring registration would harm the forums. That said no-one can make ZDNet make any changes - it's their site.

    Simon, going by your comments in other threads here, you and I seem to agree on most topics addressed here by ZDNet even though we rarely talk to each other. I can't see why that shouldn't continue to be the case.

    The "intelligent people ignore"! Jason -- 21/04/09 (in reply to #320130863)

    I won't again reignite the fuse.

    But suffice to say, as far as Mel's reputation is concerned I have asked him on a number of occasions to substantiate his comments, which I believe are intentional mistruths and also to explain his strange "debating victory claims" to me. I even gave him my word that if his explanation was substantive, I would leave him alone (refer above). Simple.

    BUT... unfortunately, Mel was, is and has continued to be, unable to substantiate either his comments or claims and his actions (or lake thereof) speak louder than any words.

    But enough for now, as I said ..... the "intelligent people ignore me", which says it all.

    lack Jason -- 21/04/09 (in reply to #320130866)

    oops - lack!

    NBN Anonymous -- 08/04/09

    I think it's a brilliant solution to Telstra's recalcitrance under that arrogant US idiot. It also solves the problem that Howard created by not splitting Telstra into infrastructure plus marketing.

    Now users can get one line into the home for everything – TV, phone and internet. Much more efficient and easier to switch suppliers who don’t perform. And it completely bypasses Telstra monopoly of ‘the last mile’. Time to sell your shares.

    Well done the Labor party. Wish they performed as well with Climate Change. But then the ‘Greenhouse Mafia’ have been much cleverer than Solomon Trujillo in writing the legislation that affects their business interests than he was. In Australia you never try to corrupt the govt in public.

    NBN Anonymous -- 08/04/09 (in reply to #320128919)

    You sound about as intelligent as Stephen Conroy, which must really make you feel good. Would like to know what inspired you to put forward such compelling and debatable input.

    NBN the first. Sydney Lawrence -- 09/04/09 (in reply to #320129035)

    Now NBN if you will just come good with the 43 thousand million dollars all will be fine.

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