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Minchin calls for Telstra NBN involvement

By AAP
25 November 2008 09:44 AM
Tags: broadband, nbn, nick minchin, opposition, stephen conroy, telstra

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    Some sense & reason Finally!! Anonymous -- 25/11/08

    "It's far too late to be breaking up Telstra ... the government shouldn't be dictating the structure of businesses."

    Good on Nick Michin for some common sense!!

    common sense? Simon -- 25/11/08 (in reply to #320116999)

    Where was his common sense during the ten years he let telecoms fester in this country? It's never too late to separate Telstra. The national interest is well ahead of the interests of a few shareholders. Saying that, separation has not hurt BT shareholders as some have said.

    "True Competition" Anonymous -- 25/11/08 (in reply to #320117015)

    Or shall we say a minority like yourself with your own little vested interest to continue the leeching off Telstra!!

    A Telstra NBN will provide "True Competition" with an "Open" access network. The free ride has to come to stop.

    interesting joe -- 25/11/08 (in reply to #320117020)

    When ever the topic of seperation comes up the pro-telstra bois always have the words "true competition" "open access" in their double finger qoutes... do you guys cross your fingers as well when u say telstras honest?

    Minority ?.. but wait, that's you Anonymous, a Telstra drone Demosthenes -- 26/11/08 (in reply to #320117020)

    Telstra is the leech, not the average Australian or Australian business. That is who you, Mr "Anonymous" Telstra Drone, are calling leeches. Was it Telstra money that paid for the original copper investment? No, it wasn't was it? It was the Australian taxpayer, as you well know Telstra person.

    If I had to punt for a winner, (and I don't want anyone but the taxpayer to win) it would be Terria. Why, because they will:
    a. start rolling out in the Bush
    b. reach 98% of the Australian population

    Both of these reasons are diametrically opposite to Telstra, that thinks it is more powerful than our elected Government.
    Telstra would:
    a. Start by rolling out in the cities
    b. Maybe do the Bush later, if profitable
    c. When finished, reach only 90% of the Australian population
    d. Insist that it maintain a monopoly, and
    e. milk all us poor stupid suckers forever (both business and individuals), laughing at us all the way to the bank (while enjoying multi-million dollar salaries and bonuses for Sol and His Greedy Robber Crew)

    Sense, reason and Nick Minchin are distant strangers! Demosthenes -- 26/11/08 (in reply to #320116999)

    Anonymous (or Telstra, because you sound like a Telstra spokesperson).

    Have you actually listened to Nick Minchin? I mean, actually listened and understood what he was saying? Minchin sounds as if he is a Telstra PR person himself! Take the caption that says "Opposition Broadband Spokesperson" away, and you would think he is "acting" in a Telstra infomercial of puff piece.

    Nick Minchin has no common sense when it comes to Telstra, and you, whoever you are, hiding behind "anonymous", obviously have never encountered Telstra commercially or as a business customer.

    What about whitespace? Matt -- 25/11/08

    I think functional separation is a possibility, but structural separation is not a practical solution.

    Im just surprised that the government hasn't looked at using whitespace networking now that TV has gone digital and there is all that 'reasonably' empty bandwith that could be getting used.

    Australians all let us rejoice. Sydney Lawrence -- 25/11/08

    The hidden agenda of the anti Telstra troglodytes is being exposed for the self serving delusional fake that it is.

    Their only plan was to separate and weaken Telstra and extend the virtual easy ride on Telstra equipment.

    Most people agree that Telstra is the best placed to make a success of the NBN build and to allow others the build is fraught with danger.

    @Australians all let us rejoice. Terry -- 25/11/08 (in reply to #320117043)

    "Their only plan was to separate and weaken Telstra and extend the virtual easy ride on Telstra equipment. "

    Not to put a damper on that but the only Telstra equipment(?) that most external carriers have been fighting for fair access to is the copper, or the last mile delivery.

    They would lay their own except for 2 problems, the cost factor (and it would be hard for you to argue that Telstra didn't lay the mass bulk of it when under government control prior to regulation), and that if they wanted to Telstra would (and has) complained that it's merely an unnecessary duplication of their network.

    Kill off telstra Anonymous -- 26/11/08 (in reply to #320117043)

    you are right Sydney. My only wish is to see telstra split in two and watch it wither away as it deserves. Each drop in shareprice will be applauded by those still waiting to install equipment in the exchanges blocked by tesltra.

    Bring it on, its time Australia was given a break. We deserve a world class telco and an open telecoms market. We don't need telstra lies, cheating and obstructions. Get rid of the telstra speed hump once and for all!

    Rejoice that Telstra is holding Australians hostage? Demosthenes -- 26/11/08 (in reply to #320117043)

    Sydney Lawrence, you call it Telstra equipment, but who funded the original copper rollout and network in the first place? It wasn't Telstra, it was Telecom Australia, and it was the Australian taxpayer who paid for that.

    The only troglodyte is you, who obviously work for Telstra. Try actually being an average Telstra business customer in an area with no competition for a change. Bet you'd change your tune then. Try getting some SERVICE out of Telstra in a monopoly area where nobody else competes. Bet you'd change your tune then, Try living in the Bush, or rural Australia, or metro areas with no competition. You would then maybe start to understand why people are SO frustrated with Telstra and its care factor of zero, overweening pride and arrogance.

    The best fate for Telstra would be to fade into obscurity, while some real competition, whose focus is on serving its customers, serves Australians on a common "public" infrastructure - a real National Broadband Network

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