Fake Conroy claims Telstra sacking

A clarification was made to this article. Please see the bottom of the article for more details.

update The satirist behind the Fake Stephen Conroy online persona today claimed his employer Telstra had fired him, a claim Telstra immediately denied.

Leslie Nassar

Leslie Nassar
(Image by Nick Hodge, CC 2.0)

"OK, I've been fired for contravening Telstra's AWA [Australian Workplace Agreement] that mandates that you don't criticise Telstra — ever — even in jest," Leslie Nassar wrote on Twitter this morning. Nassar has continued to use the Fake Stephen Conroy account since he revealed his real identity on 16 March, despite what he has said was disapproval from some within Telstra.

However, a Telstra spokesperson immediately denied the claim.

"Leslie Nassar has not been fired. However, we have started a disciplinary process against him — not because of his Fake Stephen Conroy blogs but because of his ongoing unauthorised public statements about Telstra, including abusive comments towards a Telstra staff member," they said.

On Twitter, Nassar claimed it was his latest article on his Department of Internets site that led to the claimed sacking. The article satirically outlined Nassar's action plan, in the unlikely event he was appointed Telstra chief executive to succeed incumbent Sol Trujillo.

Nassar's activities are understood to have been undertaken on his own behalf, with Telstra remaining ignorant of his hidden identity over the months that he has masqueraded as Fake Stephen Conroy.

In further postings this morning, Nassar, whose job title at Telstra was "senior emerging technology specialist (mobile)" defended senior Telstra executives he had worked with, such as chief technology officer Hugh Bradlow.

"Let me make it absolutely clear; the folks working in the CTO do extraordinary work. I'm sorry to lose my workmates," he wrote. "Hugh Bradlow and Greg Callaghan are both good, smart guys. They're enforcers in this, not puppet-masters."

Just one week ago, Telstra's social media chief Mick Hickinbotham wrote on the company's Now We Are Talking site that Nassar "will not be sacked as a result of his Fake Stephen Conroy twittering", but he noted Nassar would need to use an approach that was transparent and consistent with Telstra's policies on staff use of social networks.

"Leslie will disclose that he is a Telstra employee when touching on telecoms matters. That way, other users will be fully informed and can decide for themselves what to think of the tweet," he wrote.

Though, Hickinbotham also acknowledged that Nassar's managers had told him to stop using the FSC persona, independently of Telstra's media unit.

Nassar this morning pledged to continue his work despite the claimed sacking. "For what it's worth, this won't make me any more or less critical about Conroy, Telstra or anyone else," he wrote on Twitter.

Bad move
A number of other online writers immediately criticised what Nassar had said was Telstra's disciplinary action.

"Sacking Nassar is a bit of an own-goal for Telstra," said Crikey technology writer Stilgherrian.

"Last week, Mike Hickinbotham said Nassar wouldn't be sacked for his role as FSC. That was no lie: he's been sacked today for a separate breach of his AWA. But the punters won't see it that way. They'll see it as Telstra going back on its word."

Stilgherrian said Telstra was miles ahead of other telcos when it came to online engagement, but the disciplinary action reminded the public that "at their core they're still an old-fashioned command and control organisation; expecting everyone to check their personal opinions at the door and pretend every single Telstra products is perfection itself."

"Telstra needs creative people," Stilgherrian said, noting that creativity comes bundled with playfulness and irreverence, and even dissent.

"Telstra has just told every creative developer in Australia that they'll expect you to toe the line or be sacked. This won't help them recruit the best people," he said.

Mike Meloni, who runs the Somebody Think of the Children and NetAlarmed sites, which target Australian online censorship, also criticised Telstra.

"When I played a fake version of Stephen Conroy on NetAlarmed a year or two ago, my employer, an internet company, applauded the effort," he said. "After all, it wasn't my company I was satirising or criticising, it was the government. Leslie was also only satirising the government."

The initial headline of this article was "Telstra fires Fake Stephen Conroy". This headline has since been changed as we have verified that Nassar is, for now, still employed by Telstra.

Talkback 61 comments

    Fair's fair Mel Sommersberg -- 26/03/09

    I suppose it is fair for a boss to request that his employees refrain from giving him stick. You don't bite the hand that feeds you.

    Though by this bloke being sacked Telstra has just given him more ammunition to open up the big guns.

    A feedback stick! Anonymous -- 26/03/09 (in reply to #320126782)

    It depends what your definition of stick is Mel. I challenge you on your statement; "you don't bite the hand that feeds you".Your statement implies that employees should be submissive. If your boss is a dictator, bully and/or psychopath they generally don't take any type of feedback to well and deflect and deny as well as blaming the messenger due to their deluded state of mind. It's a very state mental state such people live in and most will realize this at a later time in life.I think its very important to challenge your bosses thinking without fear or reprisal as that's what helps create change, innovation and growth. If a boss takes "stick" as criticism and they do not have a healthy emotional system they generally try to eliminate or ignore the target because of the denial they live in. Bosses should be genuinely open to feedback and listen to their employees even if it may be challenging from them to hear. They also should report back to their employees on what they heard and not make generalized statements (ie. lies) advocating that they do listen without providing any real data. Well respected bosses are great listeners, educators and take inspiration, change and growth from those very people who may hold that stick. Dictators, bully's and/or psychopaths will never have true respect from their shareholders, staff and customers and will see their fate sealed in the natural progression of KARMA.

    Clarification Mel Sommersberg -- 26/03/09 (in reply to #320126797)

    I am sure you know what the formal meaning of 'copping stick' is Anonymous. Call it criticism, abuse, bullshit, negative appraisal, anything you like.

    If I lose faith with my boss I move to a better job. I consider that a better deal for me than sitting in someone else's chair collecting their money whilst bagging them. Why? Because it is better for me career-wise and the boss still has to find someone to replace me despite me leaving on good terms.

    Further clarification Anonymous -- 26/03/09 (in reply to #320126805)

    "Call it criticism, abuse, bullshit, negative appraisal, anything you like". I wonder about your definition and ask you Is that behaviour you engage in? Seems very negative and blaming. What do you bring to the table? How is your attitude? Can you take on board feedback or do you deflect it? You write "if you lose faith in your boss you move to a better job?". I would actually suggest to you that you have no faith in yourself if you like to abuse your boss then run away! Its not better for you and demonstrates poor behaviour.

    The trolls are out from under the bridge again Mel Sommersberg -- 26/03/09 (in reply to #320126835)

    To the Anonymous troll:- The point I am trying to get across to you is that you don't have to be a boatrocker to get on in life. It takes more muscles to frown than it does to smile so why waste energy by being an abrasive, pigheaded left wing lunatic like Jason (and obviously you) when you can relax through your workday whilst still remaining productive and actually enjoy the week enough so that you don't spend the whole week counting down the seconds to the weekend.

    For the record I don't abuse my boss. I don't need to. Usually when I change jobs it is for better pay and promotions and I haven't failed at a job interview in the last 20 years so I must be doing something right. What about you?

    And... Mel Sommersberg -- 26/03/09 (in reply to #320126844)

    I'll add that your mate KRudd is about to reintroduce Australia to a nation of high unemployment. I'd rather have a job and keep it than be on the dole.

    Think about it. Would you rather have a job or be sacked for standing up for the rights you think you have - ie telling your boss to stick his job up his clacker and actually not expecting to be sacked.

    heh.

    Negative behaviour - Say no more! Anonymous -- 26/03/09 (in reply to #320126846)

    Ohhh. nasty ... Troll huh? Something hurting inside Mel. Deflection and denial perhaps?. I really see no need to comment as your poor behaviour speaks for itself. The sensible and healthy emotional people have always seen through your ramble. Remember there are plenty of services available in the public domain that can help you. If you worked for the company you could use EAP however they are trained to deflect liability for any work related issues and attempt to turn them into personal issues. Mens Help line, Lifeline, etc... Best wishes on your recovery to become more positive and optimistic about your future. Keep smiling. I am :)

    And... some more irrelevant data just to further demonstrate your negativity! Anonymous -- 26/03/09 (in reply to #320126846)

    "I'll add that your mate KRudd is about to reintroduce Australia to a nation of high unemployment."

    So you are now showing your further destructive outlook on life as well as implying that KRudd is my mate. Mr Rudd is our PM and anybody that is our PM will gain my respect (labor or liberal) if they embrace a confident, positive and optimistic outlook for our nation and most importantly don't become submissive to bullies, just like you.

    Oh Mel.. things will get better for you if you make that change. You are a dying breed in a new world!

    Blah Mel Sommersberg -- 26/03/09 (in reply to #320126864)

    KRudd can never get the respect that John Howard attracts. Mr Howard is a statesman - the finest of their kind. Other world leaders respect him and listen to him.

    They don't listen to Kevin Rudd. Nor do they respect him. Even his chum Barack Obama only pays him light-hearted compliments about being a good economic manager. KRudd is a dud. He's an incompetant. He's a lousy manager - full stop. He couldn't manage a pissup in a brewery, even with his previous experience at haunting seedy nightclubs.

    Just calling it how I see it boys. Deal with it.

    You two are hare-brained galoots. You just comment for the sake of hearing your own voices, never say anything remotely relevant to the topic and just rave on with BS to worm your way out of self-inflicted embarrassment.

    OMG! Jason -- 26/03/09 (in reply to #320126888)

    Statesman, rofl. That's the spirit, grub, fire up! Hook, line and sinker, AGAIN, lol.

    Stetesmen don't humiliatingly lose their own blue ribbon seats! Hahahahahahahahahahahaha. What a pitiful end to a pitiful PM. The most pitiful since Menzies.

    Now Mel/Mel$tra, Lord Watchdog, Steve, Anonymous, Braaaaaadleeeeey.

    It is pointless you desperately applying Whirlpool rules (nothing off topic and no personal attacks) to suit yourself, to worm out of being again, out debated. Mel/Lord (haha) Watchdog, Whirlpool rules simply DO NOT apply here at ZDNet, so enough of the excuses. A certain degree of edge and being in-your-face, is allowed here. So harden up or ***k off.

    Perhaps it may be best for you to stay within the comfort zone of your own little rank, childlike website/IRC, where you can say whatever you wish and be as hate filled as you actually are (true colours) and no one can take you to task, like I do here. If they dare to try, you and the only other actual member, Dan, can simply 'personally gang attack them' as you do (which is apparently fine on extremist websites like yours, where you are untouchable, but not here) or simply excommunicate the poster, how splendid. Nothing like free speech!

    Funny though, Mel/Steve deems it perfectly ok for him to veer off topic (by mentioning the PM or Telstra in a bad light) regardless of the topic and he's also the first to start the personal attacks (hare-brained galoots!). Ironically he's also the first to sob, when he is attacked in retaliation, rofl.

    Bring it on, spineless grub and again, where are those debating tips, you just keep totally ignoring!(#11)? Haha, lamo.

    Whos the spineless grub. Anonymous -- 27/03/09 (in reply to #320126898)

    "Bring it on, spineless grub and again, where are those debating tips, you just keep totally ignoring!(#11)? Haha, lamo."

    We all know who the spineless grub is here, and it's not Mel.

    No he's not spineless he just get others to do the dirty work, lmao. Jason -- 27/03/09 (in reply to #320126964)

    Is that you Mel, Sydney Mike or one of the Klansmen? Hahahahahahaha, lamo.

    Ok then, if he's not spineless, have Mel supply the promised debating tips (now asked for #13 times) spineless anonymous grub #2.

    Seems if it isn't Mel, that he needs, as he has done previously when he brought in the Master (bater) - gotta love these morons, Lord, Master, rofl - others to do his dirty work which actually just proves, HE IS A SPINELESS GRUB!

    Blah Blah Anonymous -- 26/03/09 (in reply to #320126888)

    Again.. lets look at your behaviour.. because its all about behaviour Mel.. when will you learn that?

    Where did Mr Howard come into it? An excuse to divert attention onto outlandish statements against the PM. You truly live in denial. Like I said, there are resources to help you.

    I would challenge your mental state if that's how you see it. Deal with it? A further demonstration of you being entwined in authoritarian submissive brainwashed behaviour.

    And lets look at your behaviour which again turned into attacks...

    "Hare-brained galoots". LMAO

    You are deflecting. Everything attacking remark you make you can put right back on yourself.

    Get Help. Be Happy. Be Positive. Be Optimistic.

    Good luck! Remember you started the forum with your submissive remark.

    Blah Anonymous -- 27/03/09 (in reply to #320126888)

    "You two are hare-brained galoots. You just comment for the sake of hearing your own voices, never say anything remotely relevant to the topic and just rave on with BS to worm your way out of self-inflicted embarrassment."

    Hear Hear, and could not agree more. But no need to say "you two hare-brained galoots" as it is obviously the same person. (u no who)

    Had a meal then? Anonymous -- 27/03/09 (in reply to #320126963)

    Thank goodness, I thought you had starved, rofl

    Blah Bum Anonymous -- 27/03/09 (in reply to #320126963)

    Again.. lets look at your behaviour..

    You said..
    "Hear Hear, and could not agree more. But no need to say "you two hare-brained galoots" as it is obviously the same person. (u no who)"

    Ok, so you are colluding (eg. bum chumming) and advocating that you know who I am. What does that matter? You dont me and I dont know you. You dont know what I know and I dont know what you know. Why did you state such? Whats your intent? And.. you just thought you would chuck in some abuse. Do you feel better now? Has the pain gone? Good. Now keep smiling :)

    Blah Bum and more Blah Bum Anonymous -- 29/03/09 (in reply to #320127053)

    Who you are sticks out like dogs balls, you petulant ****.

    Inspector Clouseau. Anonymous -- 29/03/09 (in reply to #320127130)

    Your dog's female.

    Blah No Sense Anonymous -- 27/03/09 (in reply to #320126963)

    Your comment makes no sense to me.. which in my experience generally means that you are deflecting and telling me about you!! And if such is true, well.. say no more!

    "You two are hare-brained galoots. You just comment for the sake of hearing your own voices, never say anything remotely relevant to the topic and just rave on with BS to worm your way out of self-inflicted embarrassment."

    And... some more irrelevant data just to further demonstrate your negativity! Anonymous -- 27/03/09 (in reply to #320126864)

    "Mr Rudd is our PM and anybody that is our PM will gain my respect (labor or liberal) if they embrace a confident, positive and optimistic outlook for our nation and most importantly don't become submissive to bullies, just like you."

    You have to be kidding, your respect is not worth a damn, going by your attitude. I wish you were the dying breed.

    @And...rofl Jason -- 27/03/09 (in reply to #320126961)

    So, what's wrong with this guys comment?

    He respects our voted leader, if the leader embraces optimism! What's wrong with that?

    Any rational human being would say, yeah, ok!

    Truth is you couldn't find a real reason to give him a serve, because he has embarrassed you. And this desperate, half-ar*ed, tripe is the best you could come up with, anonymous Klansman. Rofl!

    @And...rofl Anonymous -- 29/03/09 (in reply to #320126965)

    Still talking to yourself, you waspish w..ker.

    Brilliant Anonymous -- 29/03/09 (in reply to #320127131)

    Where would telecoms be now without compelling input like yours?

    Someone is dying inside Anonymous -- 27/03/09 (in reply to #320126961)

    A further demonstration of negative destructive behaviour. Your intent shows in the way you write however it seems by your behaviour that you cannot comprehend and understand your own actions. This indicates an unhealthy emotional system. Remember, be happy, positive, optimisic and confident and free yourself from your poor behaviour.

    Someone is dying inside Anonymous -- 27/03/09 (in reply to #320127052)

    ^^^^^^^^
    In response to...

    You have to be kidding, your respect is not worth a damn, going by your attitude. I wish you were the dying breed.

    @The troll Jason -- 26/03/09 (in reply to #320126844)

    Wheres those debating tips (#10) liar?

    @ a feedback stick Jason -- 26/03/09 (in reply to #320126797)

    Don't bother anon, you are corresponding with a blinded, extreme right wing, nut, who truly believes in master/servant.

    In these people's minds, if the boss tells the employee (more commonly referred to as "the help or scum") to do 'anything', no matter how degrading or deliberately outside the scope of their substantive roll, the scum must obey!

    If not he/she is fired, period. Which to them, apparently equates to fair's fair.

    You will note that this particular right wing nut, incessantly attacks Telstra, but when it comes to Industrial Relations, he will back even Telstra against their employees (his fellow Australians, bit of Howard rhetoric to make him feel warm and fuzzy) especially unionized employees "every time".

    re @ a feedback stick Anonymous -- 27/03/09 (in reply to #320126810)

    "Don't bother anon, you are corresponding with a blinded, extreme right wing, nut, who truly believes in master/servant."

    Talking to yourself now Jason ?

    Welcome back Sydney **** Anonymous -- 27/03/09 (in reply to #320126966)

    Welcome back, moron.

    AWA Anonymous -- 26/03/09

    AWA

    Say no more.

    AWA Anonymous -- 26/03/09 (in reply to #320126800)

    AWA - Attack Working Australians!

    re AWA Simon -- 27/03/09 (in reply to #320126829)

    WAW - Attack W..nk..g Anoymous

    Haha Anonymous -- 27/03/09 (in reply to #320126967)

    My how clever, you must be mummy favourite SMN.

    Clone Bradlow attempts a poor defence further confirming him to be an enforcer/ Anonymous -- 26/03/09

    Clone Bradlow demonstrated some key messages of the arrogant and dictatorship culture that is alive and well within the company.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/03/26/2526875.htm

    Dr Hugh Bradlow, Telstra's chief technology officer, says Leslie Nassar had neither "the credentials to be authoritative nor the manners to speak to his colleagues,"

    ---> In other words, I hold authority and more credentials over you and you WILL run everything by me because I'm better than you (possible Doctor arrogance, psychopathic and deluded behaviours).

    "Not because of his Fake Stephen Conroy blogs but because of his ongoing unauthorised public statements about Telstra, including abusive comments towards a Telstra employee," the statement said."

    ---> In other words, do not speak the truth about the company and leave it to our specialist spin doctors that abide by the master-slave principle. (Propaganda reserved for NWAT)

    "No organisation can tolerate an employee publicly ridiculing his colleagues or making public comment without either the credentials to be authoritative or having the manners to speak to his colleagues first."

    ---> In other words, I know everything and I speak for all organisations and I'll twist my words a little bit to make it sound good and I am personally ridiculed because I am unaware of my own state of mind (maniac episode) in that I am a brainwashed bully so you all better listen to my authority and run everything by me first because I am better than you. (deluded state of mind, expressing further authority and dictatorship behaviours).

    Bradlow, your comments further echo the sad state your company and many members are in.

    Free yourself from the master bully. Hopefully when Dennis is finally held to account the brainwashed may have an awakening and realise the sad state they have been living in.

    Correction mike smith -- 26/03/09 (in reply to #320126842)

    "No organisation can tolerate an employee publicly ridiculing his colleagues or making public comment without either the credentials to be authoritative or having the manners to speak to his colleagues first."

    Assuming the employee is representing his employer when he makes said remarks. Someone going by the pseudonym Fake Steven Conroy can hardly be said to be representing Telstra

    Hmmm, what would someone who baits a master bully be called? :)

    Further correction Anonymous -- 26/03/09 (in reply to #320126850)

    Mike.. you missed the point... remember Bradlow stated..

    "Not because of his Fake Stephen Conroy blogs but because of his ongoing unauthorised public statements about Telstra, including abusive comments towards a Telstra employee," the statement said.

    I agree with your comments..
    "Someone going by the pseudonym Fake Steven Conroy can hardly be said to be representing Telstra"

    You refer to it as bait? This is real my friend and no illusion. An interesting take and demonstrates your lack of knowledge or denial into the dictatorship bullying authoritarian management practices that have been consistent since the master bully has been in power. I used to work for the bullies. Did or do you?

    You can call me whatever you like. I have deep insight and knowledge into the company from various angles. Do you?

    The real abusers Anonymous -- 26/03/09 (in reply to #320126859)

    ".... including abusive comments towards a Telstra employee," the statement said.

    Seriously Bradlow, what is the definition of abusive comments? I think your comments are abusive! Can you leave the company now? I have been witness to various managers deliberately and willfully verbally abusing employees F,S,C and all the words including getting personal and picking on people's weight and sexuality. Those bullies get promoted. Its just not right..

    So weak..So sad.. Enough is enough!

    Abuse vs Behaviour Anonymous -- 26/03/09 (in reply to #320126866)

    Bradlow.. Just look at your advocator (Mel) and his engagement in personal abuse deflected from comments about his behaviour. Why did he then become personal? Commenting on behaviour is very different to personal attacks. If such individuals interpret comments about their behaviour to be personal attacks they should question their own actions and rationale. More times than not, if people defend feedback about their behaviour and further take it as abuse then they are not emotionally healthy individuals and are engaging in deflection and denial behaviour unconsciously and instinctively. The funny part is their abuse torwards the target is often a reflection of themselves. Denial is a remarkable thing. Its psychology and as a doctor I trust you understand human psychology.

    Look at yourself Anonymous Mel Sommersberg -- 26/03/09 (in reply to #320126872)

    Anyone that posts under the "Anonymous" tag are not only regarded as inferior by other people but also realise their own lack of self-worth and self-esteem. People who post under the "Anonymous" tag also lack credibility and the question must be asked as to what value do anonymous posters have when they don't contribute to discussions but instead just comment adversly on the views of others.

    If there is a problem then offer a solution. Otherwise it is better to remain silent and allow those with a brain to do the job for you.

    Instead of tossing yourself over your views on human psychology, which are a crock anyway, why not talk about Telstra? Maybe it is that you know nothing about either and you've been brought here by Jason to lower the average intelligence level of the ZDNet userbase...

    Jason is everywhere Syd...oops Mel/Lord (haha) Watchdog etc Jason -- 26/03/09 (in reply to #320126889)

    You're sounding as desperate as Sydney Mike now, stupid. Saying Jason in every comment. Not everyone is Jason!

    Again I reiterate, I do not ask, require or need anyone to speak on my behalf. I can systematically, disembowel a soft **ck, grubby little c**tservative (yes royalties NON anon) like you, in my sleep, with both hands tied behind my back, using only, you know what, fool!

    As I mention above, Whirlpool etiquette does not apply here. So off topic and personal remarks are ok, within reason, don't like it go back to the safe haven of your own neo nazi website.

    WHERE ARE THE DEBATING TIPS (#13)? Or are you too spineless? Do you actually have balls?

    Open your eyes Mel Anonymous -- 26/03/09 (in reply to #320126889)

    OK.. so now a further diversion to debate the validity of anonymous posting with obscure data! Mel Mel Mel. Please. Just accept the fact that your behaviour is questionable. Please try not to get offended as I truely dont mean any offense to you. Your level of offense taken by resorting to attacks does show negative behaviour. You cannot deny that! Im sorry if you can't handle it! The solution is simple. Sack the board and start again.

    re Look at yourself Anonymous - oops I mean Jason Anonymous -- 27/03/09 (in reply to #320126889)

    Yes, instead of tossing yourself over your views on human psychology, which are a crock anyway, why not just talk about Telstra? Maybe it is that you know nothing about either, but are simply determined to lower the average intelligence level of the ZDNet userbase.

    Haha. They just keep getting lamer, if that is possible! Jason -- 28/03/09 (in reply to #320127064)

    26/3 - Mel Sommersberg (in ref too Jason) ---
    "to lower the average intelligence level of the ZDNet userbase"

    27/3 - Anonymous --- "to lower the average intelligence level of the ZDNet userbase"

    I'm getting a feeling of deja vu, ladies!

    Is that you Mel, masquerading? Or do you have a ***king idiot, racist, extremist Mel parrot, sitting on your shoulder, and sh***ing down your back? Lamo!

    BTW Sherlock, don't ever bother applying for detective, roflmfao.

    None are as lame as you Jason, for obvious reasons Mel Sommersberg -- 02/04/09 (in reply to #320127078)

    Is there a law against two obviously different people uttering the same or similar comments? After all Jason, you are a complete brain-dead halfwit. It is not therefore unreasonable to assume that mroe than one person will recognise that fact.

    I will never post anonymously - I don't believe in it. However if someone else is going to come here and echo my point of view then kudos to them. They have leave to continue.

    Just can't let go can you, revenge boy, rofl Jason -- 02/04/09 (in reply to #320127765)

    Braaadleeey ( Mel, Lord Watchdog) you just can't let go, can you? I have shattered your falsely built up, conceited ego, haven't I? I intended to leave you be, but you just couldn't help yourself (revenge, lol).

    Obviously, I have shattered you so much that you have nowhere to go (apart from anonymous, childish tongue poking, you now stoop to), "unless I set you free", lmao.

    Since you made stupid promises to me, which you always knew you were/are unable and ill-equipped to keep (debating tips lol) and because you really have absolutely no ***king idea at all, "I will enlighten you instead, Brad". I will put you out of your misery once and for all, by explaining the meaning of life to you! When? SOON...

    But firstly a little credit. Although you are a cretin (that's fact) you do have a "little intelligence" (credit) to go with your vast cretinism. So because of this tad of intelligence, whilst you will not be man enough to admit it, you will be able to deduce that I am right.

    So why would I let you off the hook, now that you are netted and about to be gutted and filleted? Well I'm actually a softy at heart and "I'm starting to feel sorry for you Brad". Truly, but do you know why?

    BTW, this isn't the meaning of life; this is the prognosis for the meaning of life - which will come, SOON..

    I can see that you are simply an insecure little boy, one who was bullied at school, has few friends, and clings to muuuuumy's every word. Because of this, you base your life on a complete fantasy, by naively believing a ridiculous notion from muuuuumy that John Howard wasn't a complete knob. Plus getting sacked from Telstra's IRC, has left an indelible scar on your psyche and a lifelong need for retribution.

    This all being so, the only way for you to display courage, is when hiding behind a monitor, mouthing off, under the self inflated alias of Lord (Watchdog).

    This is something you could never do in real life. In fact, you got so much enjoyment from being an online hero (in your feeble mind) that you even started your own website/IRC to have an endless avenue for "bravado", all from the safety of a pc at muuuuumy's.

    I know you wait with great anticipation for the "meaning of life", but understandably, also with "obvious trepidation" as well.

    No need to thank me Brad. Like I said, "I'm just a softy who feels sorry for you...

    "you imperforate anus".

    Telstra needs to look at their own nest... Anonymous -- 26/03/09

    Telstra is well known for treating their (now ex-) employees like this.

    1. AWA - a legal way of cutting any form of protected conditions in Telstra. (However Telstra also refuses to negotiate a Union agreement with other employees.)

    2. Telstra never get's to the core problem - in this case it is them. If they bothered to pull this guy up and ask what he actually thought and provided reasonable explainations to him, then they might actually get some free assistance in directing the company ship. Instead they use a loophole in an AWA to sack him because they don't want to know the truth. Staff are obviously in a desparate situation if they resort to blogs of the non-Telstra-sanctioned type to voice their opinion. Fact: Telstra doesn't listen!!!!!

    Telstra is an old organisation - if you don't fit it, get out. They have probably never heard of new management techniques and TQM style ways of meeting problems where everyone is entitled to put in an opinion..

    In both cases - shame on Telstra, you've probably just lost another good employee.

    Telstra is only a great place to work for managers who provide no value to the company who like keeping the feathers in their nest - for the rest of the top level managers who actually know what they're doing and the bottom level workers, Telstra cares little because the people who add so little value are merrilly managing them out of existance in order to keep their feathers and climb the longer ladders.

    If only Telstra would see the problem and not just play pass-the-parcel in their current management hireachy.

    Like the article should say - they just blamed another innocent employee for their own problems.

    Intelligent comment please. Sydney Lawrence -- 26/03/09 (in reply to #320126894)

    These Anonymous Posters are so obvious in their intention to promote their self interests by throwing mud at Telstra it is a pathetic reflection on their intelligence.

    Any person who is employeed by a company and then proceeds to abuse their employer is either insane or does not want their employment to continue.

    Forget this guy, let him go to Hollywood for employment. Be carefull though you tell someone there to get ****** and you end up with a bullet in the belly.

    Hey lets divert attention.. Ummm how about I put "Intelligent comments" in the s Sydneys Lawrences Sol -- 26/03/09 (in reply to #320126908)

    Oh here comes another one! I wanna play a reverse game with you.. are you ready.. lets go...

    These Anonymous Posters are so obvious in their intention to promote their self interests by throwing mud at Telstra it is a pathetic reflection on their intelligence.

    My name is Sydney Lawrence and my intention it to promote Telstra's interests by throwing mud at anybody who opposes them and this is a pathetic reflection of my intelligence.

    Any person who is employeed by a company and then proceeds to abuse their employer is either insane or does not want their employment to continue.

    I have interests in the company and I will never rock the boat because I want to continue to receive my special benefits. My behaviour is actually insane but I want my benefits to continue.

    Forget this guy, let him go to Hollywood for employment. Be carefull though you tell someone there to get ****** and you end up with a bullet in the belly.

    I really don't know what else to say but I will resort to implying death threats because that's the level of psychotic behaviour I engage in.

    re Hey lets divert attention.. Ummm how about I put "Intelligent comments" in th Simon -- 27/03/09 (in reply to #320126913)

    Sydney, blind Freddie can recognise that most of these anonymous posts come from the same source, and you don't have to be a genius to work out who he is. Surely it would be best to simply ignore him.

    Simon says... Anonymous -- 27/03/09 (in reply to #320126973)

    And you point is Simon? Are you taking offense? It was just a little game... with Sydney! (no more clones needed)

    sydney balanced comment please Anonymous -- 29/03/09 (in reply to #320126908)

    sydney admit it you are as transparentt and fragile as glass. if this was optus sacking one of thier employees for doing what leslie has done, you'd be here telling us that he was sacked for his free speech which is his right in a democracy.

    youd then tell us he speaks the truth and this is typical of the singapore regime and if optus wins the rights to the nbn this is what all dinky di, meat pie scoffing, holden driving australians who say boo about big bad optus can expect.

    but it's telstra, so that's ok, in a telstra dinky di democracy.

    re Intelligent comment please. Simon S -- 29/03/09 (in reply to #320126908)

    You are right on both counts here Sydney, regarding the anonymous posters, and any person employed by a company, that keeps bagging them. But this is exactly what that serial poster/pest who is always off topic does, who uses both anonymous and Jason as his ID.

    Serial pests roster below. Simon S' more handsome and obviously more intelligent brother. -- 30/03/09 (in reply to #320127132)

    Serial poster/pest list just for you precious: -

    Firstly we have clown prince **** Real name, used to use it or Sydney Mike, has not done so for about 6 weeks after again being shown to be a dumb***k, beyond comparison. Now posts as Josef, OIC, Simon S, anonymous (and others)! Loves Telstra almost as much as Sydney L and has Telstra shares, but is an Optus customer, rofl. Bought Telstra shares at astronomical dollars (but says he bought at T1 only $3.30). Recently displayed more investor brilliance, by claiming to have bought more at around $3.40, then boasting about tax concessions! Within days they were $2.93, just compounding this idiots loses. He is primarily a poor stupid ***t who knows no better.

    Then we have Brad (real name, never uses it, but tells people who post anonymously that they are dishonest trolls, lol). Posts as Mel Sommersberg, Lord Watchdog, Steve, anonymous and others. A very slimy customer with no moral or ethics. Will lie blindly and say totally contradictory comments to previous threads, to suit the current argument, then later claim "I never said that"! Hates Telstra more than any rational human possibly can, and will post incessantly under these various idioms 24/7, in revenge for being fired as IRC Op, by Telstra. Suspected for also posting as, and/or similarly to, stupid Mike above, to stir the pot further.

    Neither of them have the balls to face me in a one on one debate.

    There done.

    Serial pests roster below. Anonymous -- 31/03/09 (in reply to #320127206)

    You left out Jason, Queen of the Desert.

    That is because this Anonymous **** is Jason Mel Sommersberg -- 02/04/09 (in reply to #320127240)

    Enough said.

    Jason doesn't come here to debate rationally, he comes here to deride people, regardless of their views. This forum is just some cheap entertainment for Jason who is either a dole bludger, a mental patient with unfettered Internet access - very easy to do these days since our state governments unchained the gates - or a high school drop-out with no future and no intelligence.

    And... Mel Sommersberg -- 02/04/09 (in reply to #320127766)

    I'll add that I was never fired as an IRC operator by Telstra. Telstra doesn't employ IRC operators and hasn't employed any since 1999. All others were volunteers. I Ieft of my own accord and was still using Telstra Bigpond products (out of contract) more than a year after doing-so, including connecting a rival IRC server via their cable service until it became too unreliable and expensive.

    Jason, who is well-known for distorting any form of truth, claims I have posted here as "Steve" and "Anonymous". This is not correct.

    The extremist, hatred just keeps coming hey Brad. Steve (oops sorry) Jason -- 02/04/09 (in reply to #320127767)

    Dole bludger? You are demonstrating that extremist hatred again Braaadleeey! Especially in this worldwide economic climate.

    You don't post as anonymous! Well I was right about the parrot then (another thread). And Steve, lol.

    The mystical Steve appeared like magic (as usual, rofl) when there was nowhere left for you to go (as usual, rofl) at the end of another dismal shattering of your conceited ego (as usual). Steve wanted to take me on on your behalf, lamo.

    Once the thread had come and gone I ceded and supplied the link to your extremist hatred website. Within minutes Steve had registered, managed to navigate around amateurville, post a comment (with similar wording and a quote just like you do, lol) and post another comment here, all as if he'd done it before?.

    Steve then went on to thank me because I had helped him find "his" website. The one he had been looking for, with people having the same (hatred) views. A website he would be frequenting and commenting on, regularly.

    But do you know what? That was Feb 16 ( six weeks ago) and Steve hasn't returned here or to "his" website since, rofl.

    You went to a lot of trouble there Brad, for little return.

    Isn't that odd? Perhaps he fell of the edge of the earth Brad (Mel, Lord Watchdog, STEVE and ANONYMOUS).

    No, its just you and another, not people, rofl. Jason -- 02/04/09 (in reply to #320127766)

    And again Brad (Mel, Lord Watchdog, Steve anonymous).

    I don't come here to deride people. I come here to deride 2 big mouthed, bigots only, as I mentioned above. Actually up to 10 big mouthed bigots, depending on which name or names those 2 are using, at any given time, lol.

    No one else has any reason to think I will attack them, unless they attack me first (like someone else of a very similar nature did a few days back).

    What irks you the most (well apart from being demoralised and found out) is, that I come here and don't take sides and being a hater beyond compare you can't understand that.

    Get used to it moron, your easy ride of lies and deceit is over. Better toughen up Linda.

    Jason is a blowse. Mel Sommersberg -- 02/04/09 (in reply to #320127787)

    You are not right Jason, you are wrong, very wrong and you are wrong about everything. I might sound harsh sometimes but that is because I hate stuffing around. If it's a spade I call it a spade and if you don't like it then tough titties because I am not going to change to suit you. I'll continue to call it like I see it - you are a liar, deceitful and childish. You are also an Internet menace and you have about as much personality as a boil on a quoit.

    There, I think that will do for tonight. Sweet dreams Jason.

    Gloves off Linda Jason -- 02/04/09 (in reply to #320127822)

    It hurts to get the same treatment back that you dish out to everyone else doesn't it moron, because you actually believe you are superior you conceited piece of ***t.

    Your problem is that every one is wrong, wrong, wrong except for you, in your own trumped up egotistical world. Have you ever thought maybe you are wrong, wrong, wrong? No you haven't because muuuumy said so.

    In another thread I said I feel sorry for you because it is obvious that you were bullied and you are nothing more than a soft ***k muuuuumy's boy, hiding behind a monitor being a hero, which you could never be in real life, lamo. Let me again reiterate these thoughts.

    But moron, here's what I actually think minus the sugar coating I applied because I feel sorry for you.

    I particularly feel pity for you Brad, because of your insecurities relating to your hermaphroditism, for you needing a John Howard inflatable love doll (with GST: gyrating and spinning tooshie) and for being the inspiration behind the 40 year old virgin (apart from the JH, ex-PM, come ***k me doll, of course).

    Once again Brad L*** no need to thank me, because like I said, "I'm just a softy who feels pity for you...

    "you imperforate anus".

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