Coonan v Conroy: Submit your broadband election questions

Q and A Anonymous -- 12/11/07

1. Whys is copper cables still being run in the country, the pricing difference between it a fiber is minimal! USE FIBER!

2. The Gaming Companys sould get the same consesions as the movie industry. To reply to my Letter of Pettion saying that there are provisions for the gamming industry in the movie subsidy is a joke, i know that the gamming industry deserves the same conditions not to be tacked on the end with minimal beifits.
3. Why the hell was telstras wholesale and retail arms not split? Tail Waging dog?? The prices that telstra chage for the ports is resonable stop trying to screw them lower ACCC, the problem/cost for a ISP is the AVGC!!! which can be worked around with a simple cable but telstra dont like that becuase that is were the revenew is.. so yes i suppose telstra has been pretty smart whinging about port prices it keeps the attention away from the gapping black hole that is AVGC.

Telstra Anonymous -- 12/11/07

How are both sides of government going to tackle Telstra's bullying tactics and create a competitive telecommunications industry?

Q&A simon -- 12/11/07

Coonan: Do you accept responsibility for the Telstra privatisation disaster? (Not retaining infrastructure)
Both : What are your plans for correcting the disaster?

Both : What are your plans for censoring internet content?

debate Eddie Laird -- 13/11/07 (in reply to #320089614)

You took the words out of my mouth Q&A.I'd like to hear know nothing Coonan answer that one.

Q and A Anonymous -- 12/11/07

1. Why are new estates being wired with paired gain that makes it harder to have broadband? Surely you have a vision for the future which would mean all new development work that is done takes these things into consideration.

2. Why is broadband so expensive here in Australia compared to other countries? There was once a claim in this country to try and make internet cheap and affordable for every citizen in order to try and encourage a "knowledge nation". What has happened to this view for the future?

Pricing Irish -- 13/11/07 (in reply to #320089615)

Yeah why is it so dam expensive here, for swome of the plans it may be $19.95 but you only get 150 - 200 meg and that would go in a minute how can they justify that price vs bandwidth

Broadband Availability Anonymous -- 12/11/07

What is being done to rectify all those arears that have been wired with 'pair gain' that are not capable of using ADSL - this appears to cove most of the new sub-divisions creatied in the last five years. Only alternative that these residents have is wireless (if available at a much higher cost and lower speed), satelite etc.

Qestions for Coonan / Conroy Bill Caelli -- 12/11/07

Conroy - Australia may have over 7,500 "RIM" boxes and related broadband limiting sub-systems where direct connection to the exchange is not present, particularly in marginal, outer suburban and regional centres. Please explain how Labor's program will work where the normal connection "node" (the RIM / Multiplexor box, pair gain terminator, etc) is owned by Telstra and users' copper lines connect directly to it.... Will Labor force a broadband tenderer to buy those RIMs etc and Telstra to sell them if Tesltra is not the successful winner? In this case what is meant by "fibre to the node"?

Coonan, Why choose a fixed position WiMAX standard rather than the current standard (802.16e)? Will that standard be safe and secure for small business and home users who are NOT expert in configuring highly complex wireless data networks and how would a coalition government address that vital security issue in an exposed wireless environment?

Please Explain??? Anonymous -- 12/11/07

Helen, could you please enlighten the IT Industry as to what the term "Gigabit Power" means exactly?? (as mentioned by yourself in a previous 7:30 Report interview)

Questions that need answering Anonymous -- 12/11/07

1. Are you considering making it mandoratory for all New developments to have some flavour of fibre to be installed installed of copper?

2. At what cost will be to the consumer for there internet and what what will be the amount of data allowance under a fibre network? As if it is more than what people pay now then who would wan't it let alone afford it?

3. Are you doing something to increase the Competition in the Data market not just the speed of the internet? As the data cost is one of most significantly expensive options for ISP's in Australia.

4. Conroy will you do a back door deal with telstra at any cost that means current users could not afford Fibre internet?

5. Will you give the games ratings system a overhaul to have it similar to the Movies market so that r18 Games can be made available in australia ie the Postal seriers and the recently banned Soldier of Fortune 3?

6. Will you make more IT Certifications Cheaper? So that more people are encouraged to enter IT? or at lest provide some more benefits for it?

7. Will do a education campaign to get more women in IT?

8. Would you allow for Fibre over the power lines if it were viable? i.e. Economically even knowing it may be "ugly" to look at?

9. Will you make people who do Tafe Certifications and Diplomas more appealing to Buisness? especailly IT related coures?

10. Will you fix the current holes in the DET's Internet Proxy for schools? so that do not need a third party firewall to properly block inappropiate content instead of being able to bypass it via an ip address? (unless that ip has been blocked).

11. Do you have a plan to upgrade more Public school & tafe systems? especially the aging computers that can only just run windows xp or upgrade them to vista?

12. When do you think you will get the appropiate licenses for schools to use windows vista?

13. Would you consider using linux in schools instead of windows vista to reduce the licensing costs and issues? but increase the complexity and the requirement of someone who knows linux ie a teacher to maintain the system if needed?

14. Do you have a national plan For telecommunications for schools?

15. Will you Guarantee at least 12Mb/s so roughly 1.2 MegaBytes download speed or will be be less for your planned National Broadband scheme?

16. Will you remove the limiation that if a company puts something in place that it has to share it? ie dlams? with other providers? as to make the infrastructure market place more competitive and to reduce overheads for the big companies but these companies need to guarantee there service will work?

17. Why isnt opel going to use the mobile wimax solution instead of the fixed location as it is more viable as a buisness option with the benefit of being able to be used for mobile phones? Would it get extended to the cities as well if it were successful to make wireless commications even mroe competitive?

18. what regulation will you change and would it increase IT/Telecommunications prices?

Answers that need Questioning Media Researcher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089626)

A BIG FAT NO! ARE YOU SURE YOU REALLY WANT AN ANSWER TO THIS STUFF?

GET REAL.

Q and A Anonymous -- 12/11/07

1. Why push forward with a FTTN when the rest of the world is already working on their FTTH strategy.

2. Why set only a 13Mbps targetr, it should be a minimum of 100Mbps withing 3 years and 1Gbps within 10 years?

3. Will the parties commit to a breakup of Telstra into a wholesale and a retail company for the good of telecoms in Australia.

WiMAX Spectrum Anonymous -- 12/11/07

To Coonan:

How can OPEL deliver on their commitments around WiMAX when they do not have access to appropriate spectrum?

Why was this not addressed prior to awarding the funds?

How is appropriate spectrum going to be identified now given AUSTAR (and Unwired in the cities) has the 2.3GHz and 3.5GHz and the Telsvision stations use the 2.5GHz?

Why shouldn't people view this major oversight as negligent on the part of the government?

Delivering on promises Anonymous -- 15/11/07 (in reply to #320089635)

To Conroy:

How can we believe a federal labor government will deliver on its promises in the area of telecoms infrastructure when the NSW state government has failed to deliver on their pre-election promises:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/wireless--broadband/plans-for-free-cbd-wifi-on-hold/2007/11/13/1194766742970.html

Trust Us, Trust Us, Trust Us! Media Researcher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089875)

Because they said so, you idiot! You don't trust the coalition, so why should you trust the labor party?

FLOSS, Filtering privacy. Anonymous -- 12/11/07

Question for both party representatives- Will mandatory ISP filtering be used under a "insert party name here" government ?

Is your part aware of Free open source software and if so why has it been left out of information policy.(encourage awareness and or increased use by all Australians -- government, business and people.)

For the labor party
In addition, will the Labor party consider providing grants for open source software. Will it consider promoting it. If I choose open source software can I still get a tax rebate ?
Why not promote awareness of it ?

Questions Anonymous -- 12/11/07

1) What is being/will be done to ensure that Telstra removes RIMs/CMUXes and other line-sharing technology that is preventing thousands of Australians - particularly in newer housing estates - from accessing even basic ADSL?

2) If FTTN goes ahead, what provision is there to ensure that there will be proper competition, and not a backsliding to the Telstra-dominated monopoly of the 90s and early 00s?

Government! POLICY ? is FLAWED! Keith Styles -- 12/11/07

1a. Why FTTN when FTTH is the better choice to replace all the old copper and RIMs/Pair gain.
1b.Why does Government policy favour Tel$tra all the time, which is what FTTN will do without more regulation which isn't a real good option.

2. When is government policy going to STOP Tel$tra from gouging the public for their own & shareholders benefit?

3a. When is government policy going to separate Tel$tra into 2 organisations..Wholesale & Retail, to prevent the internal fudging of costs for the benefit of their Retail operation & stop undercutting of the competition?

3b. When is Government policy going to force Tel$tra to thrown the Broadband switch to give all those in range access to ADSL2+, instead of the farce we have at present!

4a. Why do Australians pay "THE" highest costs in the world for Broadband services?
4b. Why are Australians the only Broadband user in the world (ignoring a few piddling countries) paying for download?

5. Why do you tolerate arguing & bickering about FTTN/H due to the failure of Government policy to direct Tel$tra policy, when other countries are already installing FTTN.

6. Why are we still dithering over BPL to the home, due to the lack of Government policy or direction, when the technology has been defined for over a decade?

7. If FTTN is too hard & going to be delayed for a decade longer due to Government inaction, why hasn't policy already been defined for WiMax in all exchanges (it's easy to install & doesn't require high cost cables to users) immediately as an interim policy and give ISP's a write down as an incentive to do it?

8. Why hasn't Government policy provided education departments with a subsidy to install Broadband for the benefit of ALL education, instead of leaving it up to Tel$tra & ISP's to gouge the schools and bicker over cost charges. It seems to be more a case of allowing them to profit over education rather than providing the advantages of Broadband to ALL schools?

I could go on, but if sensible and practical answers and outcomes to these questions are provide, we might just make some progress, instead of the stalemate we've put up with for the past decade. It would help, of course, if the Politicians running the portfolio knew & understood the technologies they were responsible for! None in the past decade have!

Looking for Much? Media Reseacher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089645)

So is the tax system you pay into to support government. What more do you want?

Questions for both Ministers Anonymous -- 12/11/07

1. If there is no technical requirement to cut the copper under FttN would they consider to do so, simply to ensure a commercially non-feasible system becomes feasible
2. If the answer to 1 is Ã¢ï¿½ï¿½yesÃ¢ï¿½ï¿½, then would they accept that they should also disconnect both HFC networks and all mobile/wireless broadband networks for the same non-technical reasons?
3. If youÃ¢ï¿½ï¿½re answer to 1 is Ã¢ï¿½ï¿½yesÃ¢ï¿½ï¿½, will the government provide a Ã¢ï¿½ï¿½telecommunications fairness testÃ¢ï¿½ï¿½ to ensure users are not financially disadvantaged by any FttN plans or is FttN going to be the Ã¢ï¿½ï¿½WorkchoicesÃ¢ï¿½ï¿½ of the Telecommunications industry?
4. Much is hyped about the FttN Ã¢ï¿½ï¿½triple playÃ¢ï¿½ï¿½. Assuming watching HDTV consumes 5Mb/s of bandwidth per end user, what will it cost for a provider to deliver one HDTV stream from a US channel hosted in the US to an end user per month? (noting that it costs approximately $250 per month to get 1Mb/s of wholesale Internet capacity)
5. Will you implement an FttN monopoly and interconnection framework against the express opinion of the ACCC that it is against the interest of consumers and competition? If so, why and/or on what basis?
6. With so much importance being placed behind OECD numbers and statistics, has either party sought the opinion of the OECD on any proposals to reduce competition and its effect on the market and if not, will they?
7. There are already two FttN networks in metro Australia being the Optus and Telstra HFC networks which can provide over 30Mb/s+ to the end user. If there is such a compelling requirement for high-speed services then can you please explain why according to OECD reports these networks have achieved such a poor penetration compared to Ã¢ï¿½ï¿½inferiorÃ¢ï¿½ï¿½ xDSL technologies?
8. To ensure that any FttN monopolist does the Ã¢ï¿½ï¿½right thingÃ¢ï¿½ï¿½ will government make it a Ã¢ï¿½ï¿½Condition PrecedentÃ¢ï¿½ï¿½ that any FttN monopolist must first provide FttN services to all of the portion of 98% of Australia not currently being serviced by competitive carrier ADSL/HFC infrastructure BEFORE they get access to the areas which have? Surely you must agree those who are currently living without need to be serviced before those who have?
9. Much is hyped about Ã¢ï¿½ï¿½E-HealthÃ¢ï¿½ï¿½ benefits for end users. With most Australians having access to telephones for decades how often have you been able to consult your doctor over the telephone without going into his/her practice (and given the choice how many would want to)?
10. Finally, of the countries in the OECD broadband rankings higher than Australia, which countries have a government sanctioned FttN monopoly? More to the point, which countries in the OECD rankings have a government sanctioned FttN monopoly in which the government has agreed to disconnect all competitive carriers ULL/LSS access to ensure the FttN monopoly investment Ã¢ï¿½ï¿½makes senseÃ¢ï¿½ï¿½?

Q and A Anonymous -- 12/11/07

Ministers, I have two questions:

Question 1
Will you be able to guarantee that everyone will be able to get broadband at a minimum speed which is comparable to those in 1st world countries? At the moment, as a Software Engineer, I get frustated that we can develop really cool aps but are held back by our 'third world' broadband.

Question 2
Will price of broadband be regulated as well to INTERNATIONAL standards. At the moment, countries like Singapore have faster broadband but is much cheaper when compared to Australia.

Q & A Anonymous -- 12/11/07

When Telstra was floated, Howard made a fundamental error in not keeping the infrastructure under government ownership and floating off the rest as a marketing company on a level playing field with the other competitors.

Are either Coonan or Conway and their respective parties, ready to accept that 'Invconvenient Truth'?

And if so, how would they see the situation being remedied, remembering that until that happens, Telstra will continue to be a thorn in the side and a problem for every successive Australian government?

Focussing on Telecomms Infrastructure Malcolm Moore -- 12/11/07

Seantors Coonan & Conroy:
The Davidson Report (1982) mooted the competitive Optus Experiment - which has proved to be an absolute disaster with multiple duplicated networks and multiple managements along with out of control marketing advertising and sponsoring which have all produced incredible inflationary pressures that have apparently caused only 26% (Coonan's words Meet The Press) decrease in end user costs over the last 10 years. My brief estimation of technology advances along with massive bandwidth increases at comparitavely equal costs would have caused a drop in effective end user costs by at least 73% over that same period. Handouts like NTN and other 'incentive' schemes have clearly shown that the competitive regime is not working and radical surgery is urgently required.

What timed process to be completed before 2009 do you have in place to split Telstra into a non-competitive infrastructure business (Telstra Infrastructure) providing wholesale telecomms services to resellers including the competitive ASX listed Bigpond, and in this process terminate Optus, split it too, and hand that infrastructure back to Telstra, now ASX delisted?

What strategy do you have in place to conduit the new Bigpond to be competitive with other telecomms retail resellers, and provide a return for these shareholders?

Senators Coonan & Conroy:
In the past 11 or so years we have seen multiple so-called telecomms companies come and go (once they realise that they actually have to contribute and not blatently steal telecomms infrastructure).

What is your schedule to be complete before 2009 to rein competitive telecomms infrastructure businesses back to Telstra Wholesale Infrastructure?

With Telstra separated and the ASX securities moved to Bigpond, what tiered wholesale pricing strategy do you have to make Bigpond hold its security value, compared to other resellers that are also holding competitive infrastructure? (Hint: there are two pricing structures for Wholesale - one for resellers with competitive infrastructure and a far far cheaper pricing structure for resellers without competitive infrastructure.)

Question to Conroy Anonymous -- 12/11/07

Would an ALP government allow IN PLAY online betting on sporting events? The current government will not allow it as they believe it encourages impulse gambling, but what this means is thousands of Australian punters are at a massive disadvantage when competing with overseas punters.

TV Questions George Bray -- 13/11/07

Australia lags greatly in community communication channels, not only by lack of broadband but also from the absence of a national digital community TV channel.

Does either party have a commitment to ensure that the legislation, spectrum and funding is in place to implement one by the demise of analogue TV?

Promises, Promises, Promises Media Researcher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089677)

Well George, with a big resounding........NO WAY JESUS! You've got to be kidding. Didn't you know that the federal government secretly supported the launching of AURORA?

How dare you suggest that they fund another propaganda community based television channel.

Get real Georgie. There will never be a commitment by the federal government to fund community television. They put enough of the public's money into the ABC and SBS. Do you have that much money to pay more taxes to support your cause?

Q and A Anonymous -- 13/11/07

Will either party consider implementing Simon Hacketts plan to foster competeting in the rural broadband market by essentially getting the "...ACCC to declare access to Telstra long haul regional fibre into Telstra exchanges - to simply declare that the Line Sharing Service also applies to monopoly fibre runs, not just monopoly copper ones."

So Telstra can no longer charge monopoly rents in this backhaul market.

Plan is detailed here:
http://www.internode.on.net/about/news/20050323-ruralbb.htm

Q and A Malcolm Moore -- 13/11/07 (in reply to #320089684)

You can't have it both ways! In privatising Telstra you have given Telstra the right to charge as much as possible and provide as little service as possible (to maximise the profits for the shareholders)! After all - that is the prime purpose of all privatised businesses.

If you want maximised service with minimised end user costs, then Telstra needs to be run as a non-competitive Infrastructure Business. The term 'monopoly' only applies to competitive regimes.

Consequently I am rather skeptical of comments attributed to Simon Hackett (2005) and the Page Research Centre (a front for the National Party). The ACCC's intervention to 'declare' one of Telstra's prize assets - the copper CAN - to be available for competitive businesses to add PGS (DSLAM equipment in a piecemeal approach) has been a prime reason why ADSL infrastructure is now far more expensive to install and maintain.

Q & A Anonymous -- 13/11/07 (in reply to #320089684)

Simon Hacket is quite correct.

As a third tier ISP / SMB hosting service, there is no reason why my primary hosting location should be located in any major metro city.

Many similar small to medium enterprise's would certainly relocate to rural or outer region centres, if they had reliable data and power.

The reason why is usually quite simple, other than Data, there are far lower costs involved.

The only metro requirement is a small retail business office.

The monopoly back haul market is analogous to Telstra's ownership of the 'last mile' from the local exchange.

I don't see how 'Fibre to the Node' would improve this problem, regardless of it's location.

As for what Node this Fibre is to be connected to, the actual logistics on that would also help.

Clearly, Australia needs a backbone provider entity, or two, with competitive retailers adding their own value.

Having one provider dictate the market is not the solution.
Another alternative would be allowing other Service Providers to join both the board of backbone providers,

Sharing costs and infrastructure via such an entity could be made both commercial viable and improve competition.

If either Minister has a better idea, that works with existing and emerging communication's standards, that won't involve spending, or giving away, our (additional) taxes, I'd like to hear it.

Questions for Both Parties David -- 13/11/07

Sorry if this question has been asked. What will the party that wins do about this price fixing of Telstra's Internet and capping speeds? At the moment (as I am to understand it), Telstra caps the speed for ADSL/ADSL 2 and ADSL 2+ Connections and what of this Upload limit as well.

Something does need to be done about this to allow more people to use this service. This the price is lower, more people should be able to afford it and small businesses as well. This Capping of Speed and download limits is silly beyond belief.

Q and A Anonymous -- 13/11/07

Senator Coonan

Will you apologise to the Australia public for your parties lack of thinking ahead when it comes to broadband infrastructure.

Will you also acknowledge that we have 3rd world broadband as a result of the Tel$tra monopoly

To both ministers

What are your plans when it comes to resolving the many issues around broadband. While broadband speed is an issue the bigger is is the cost of data. Why have quick downloads for consumers/businesses when they will use up there monthly quota in a matter of seconds. I would like to see Australia like other countries around the world who don't charge for data downloading or at worst reduce the speed of those who download more than there fair share.

About digital TV. Do you acknowledge in hindsight that selecting MPEG-2 for the High Definition was a mistake? Will either parties review changing this to the superior MPEG-4 spec in the future.

Why has the turn off date for digital been moved back. The biggest motivator for the people to go digital is analog no longer being broadcast.

Why have the multichannel restrictions been implemented. Given the turn off date has been pushed back there is no real incentive for people to switch to digital. Other than picture and sound what else is on offer? ABC2 is great but why stop the commercial networks creating similar channels to help drive digital adoption?

Finally. Why is it not legislated that all TV networks must provide a 7 day EPG over the EIT standard? I know of the FreeTV announcement but surely forcing consumers to buy a new device to receive something that should be freely available like in other countries is not right?

EPG Anonymous -- 13/11/07 (in reply to #320089695)

"Why is it not legislated that all TV networks must provide a 7 day EPG over the EIT standard? I know of the FreeTV announcement but surely forcing consumers to buy a new device to receive something that should be freely available like in other countries is not right?"

Excellent question. I really hope this get asked as it will effect everyone in the next couple of years, not just broadband users, which seem to be the focus of many questions here.

Competition Anonymous -- 13/11/07

Coonan: With the increases in broadband speeds across the country, how is the government going to address the excessive cost of data compared to other top OECD countries?

Conroy: Will the ALP consider operating public funded Internet peering exchanges to lower the cost of data and promote local content.

Both: How do you plan to address the Gang of 4 (Telstra, Optus, AAPT and Verizon Business) peering monoploy, that lock out competitors from offering cheaper data.

Both: How will you address the monopoly in the terrestrial, satellite and cable, IP TV markets, given smaller players are muscled out by exclusive content deals?

Digital Radio Anonymous -- 13/11/07

Can either member give one good reason why digital radio should not be rolled out immediately? And no, not via the internet, proper digital radio that the rest of the world listens to!

Digital Radio Why Anonymous -- 13/11/07 (in reply to #320089703)

There are quite a few issues as I understand around releasing spectrum. Having said that there is an interesting article on CNET.com.au here:

http://www.cnet.com.au/hometheatre/audio/0,239025973,240053702,00.htm

Minister Coonan Anonymous -- 13/11/07

Minister, why do you assume all Australians except for Coalition MPs and their advisors do not understand the issues?

A Response Media Researcher -- 20/11/07 (in reply to #320089704)

WHAT?

Debate - Consumer Appetite for Broadband Anonymous -- 13/11/07

Both - What consumer research do you have that Australians will be prepared to pay the access charges associated with the broadband setup you propose?

Potential Sell-Off or Redistribution of the Wireless Bandwidth Anonymous -- 13/11/07

As an Audio Professional in the Australian Film Industry it greatly concerns me to learn of this potential threat which if implemented will greatly hinder our ability to work in Film, Television, Drama and Documentaries.

The wireless transmitters in use in our industry cannot easily adopt other newer technologies such as Bluetooth or WiFi as these present latency and reproductive quality issues.

The 520-820MHz band used for wireless microphones, in-ear monitors and wireless guitar and keyboard transmitters is a small but vital part of the spectrum which is all that is available after the redistribution of the previously available VHF spectrum to Digital TV Broadcasters, who I believe were given their Licences for free.

Please also consider the effect it will have on local communities and cultural activities if they are unable to use wireless microphones.

What guarantees can you give us to protect our use of this bandwidth allocation?

Broadband Availability Alan MacConnell -- 13/11/07

In relation to Government and Opposition broadband policy, much has been mentioned regarding broadband rollout particularly in the country areas.

Not to detract from the importance of broadband in rural areas, but are you aware of the distinct shortage of broadband availability in so-called metropolitan areas. Having recently moved to Point Cook, an area with substantial new housing built over the last 7 years and the same again planned over the next few years, it appears Telstra have not planned capacity to similar levels. I am shocked to find I am now running my business and domestic internet connections on dial up, with no broadband availability in sight. It appears that perhaps we are not quite as metropolitan as first thought

Speed Rating Anonymous -- 13/11/07

When will someone make it law to rate broadband services by a guaranteed minimum speed rather than the theoretical maximum.
All isp's could be forced to provide a minimum speed, based on the worst case scenario (ie. to the furthest house within each exchange, assuming peak usage and poor line quality, etc.etc.) Therefore the closest house would get above the mionimum, but the furthest would be guaranteed 10 or 20 or 30Mbps. We should be paying for what we get NOT what can be achieved in a lab.

Speed Rating Andrew Leane -- 14/11/07 (in reply to #320089715)

I have been wanting to complain about this my self. i currently have adsl2+ which advertises 24mb/s but due to the copper phone lines i can only connect at 1.6mb/s (using Adam's "conservative mode". what i want to know is how will FTTN help with this situation? as it doesn't matter how fast the node can go it's the last k or so that matters.

Why, why why? skris88 -- 13/11/07

1.How come the 2% that is NOT included in Telstra's NextG coverage are mainly aboriginal communities?

2.Telstra can improve, but why is there so much Telstra bashing - why aren't Optus (and the other players) required to provide comms services outside the (easy money) major metros? (What is the coverage area by % of these alternate providers?)

3.Why did we allow the Singapore Government-owned SingTel to buy Optus?

Q2 & Q3 Simon -- 14/11/07 (in reply to #320089718)

Q2 This country does not have the poulation density to support mulitple national cable infrastructure. The Govt stuffed the privitisation of Telstra by not splitting infrastructure and giving them the pstn monopoly. Australians cannot afford to fund an alternate infrastructure which is why there is no competition. To compound this, Telstra has gouged it's customers consistently and shocking customer service.
Q3 Optus was previously owned by Cable & Wireless, a UK owned company. What's the difference?

Q and A Dave Green -- 13/11/07

Does either party have a policy with regard to expanding the role of Open Source software within the Federal public service?

What is their opinion on the use of proprietary document formats (which aren't guaranteed of being supported forever) for the storage of government documentation?

VOIP Michael Czajka -- 13/11/07

When are you going to allow companies to port existing numbers to VOIP?

How about porting VOIP numbers between companies?

An element of compulsion is obviously required because you can't port an existing number without the co-operation of the big Telco's... and they're not allowing you to do it!

:-)

Question to Conroy and Coonan Anonymous -- 13/11/07

12 Mb/s dowload bandwidth is all very well. But Australian broadband consumers are suffering very draconian bitcaps. With a bitcap of 2 GBytes per month, an entire month's allowance would be used up in about 20 minutes at a download rate of 12 Mb/s! My question is: what will you do to resolve the bitcap problem?

REGIONAL AUSTRALIA Anonymous -- 13/11/07

I would like both sides to outline their proposed strategy to ensure that regional and rural Australia does not get left behind in terms of both technology infrastructure and the cost to access and utilise this infrastructure.

When, when, when!! Bryce -- 13/11/07

All I care about is when is OPEL going to actually start - it's the only thing that's ever going to bring me ADSL2+ (regional Tasmania)

Broadband? Anonymous -- 13/11/07

I live in Queanbeayn, less than 2km from the council chambers, but I cannot get an Optus ADSL service. I can not get an ADSL2 service from any provider. The Telsra wireless option does not allow VoIP.
Where is my HIGH SPEED broadband?
Why is the government still mucking about with broadband to rural areas rather than continuing to support ones that work?

Please Explain Anonymous -- 13/11/07

Ms Coonan you in PQT said that most Australians were unaware of Broadband in 92-93 well you were wrong I did.
My exchange is ADSL enabled but only good for about 3kms after that you are stuffed.
Question. WHY DO DO I HAVE TO LIVE LIKE A PAUPER ON DIALUP AT 38.6!!!!!!!
Question.Why was my area allocated as wireless for telstra thus obviated my application for the b/b subsidy scheme to wit the connection was cheaper than Telstras via Bordernet.Yet Telstras service is at least suspect and at a cost to me which is EXTREME and not comparable to metro rates.
Answer that one I am not alone.
Footnote I am a mere 3kms from the Perth To Bunbury Hwy B/B runs right past me

Support and Promote Australian Technology Anonymous -- 13/11/07

Are there plans for the federal government to use the deployment of a national broadband network to systematically support and promote locally developed networking techologies and technology organizations? Are there assurances that internationally developed technologies are not preferred even where local alternatives are available?

Rural Broadband Anonymous -- 13/11/07

To Senator Coonan

When are you going to take charge of DCITA, instead of letting them lie and mislead you. Issues that may jog your memory. 1. The farcical priority of satellite as a rural broadband solution 2. The silly misguided and ilconceived opel Wimax solution where Opel did not have the necessary spectrum or technology experience to roll it out. Sorry minister but your department has made you look stupid. I know you have had people tell you the government was on the wrong track but you have failed to act

To Senator Conroy
Do you use the internet and more importantly email and if so why don't you answer emails sent to you inviting you to see some of the technology solutions in real life. Particularly when statements you are making in parliament are clearly misguided

to Both
Will you consider involving all the carriers in formulating a solution to the issues associated with delivering broadband to all Australians. A forum along the same basis of Radcomms would allow ALL the industry to put forward solutions which will deliver outcomes. You both need to sit through a radcomms conference ot see how the issues are discussed and how solutions are put forward.

Television Bill Whtiehead -- 13/11/07

1. Why is the coalition government so violently oppsed to multi channelling on the exsiting Free To air digital services.
2. Why does the current government bitterly opose a public safety network on Digital Free to air with services such as the BOM weather Radars and warning messages etc including bushfire warnings and prep messages.

3. Given that Labor seems to be the only party talking about Education will a Labor government commit to forcing universities to broadcast their course lectures etc on a national public education broadcasting service on digital TV

4. Can the Minister please explain why I cant get Foxtel on my copper service into my new house (could it be the 3rd world infrastructure she beleives we all should have).

5. Can both parties please explain their position on narrowcasting and why they seem to so anti it, we would all love to know.

6. What is the problem of allowing anyone/company from renting spectrum space in the Digital area to start their own station to encourage competion and take up in the digatal space.

7, Given the current government doesnt like sport on free to air will a labor government make it manditory for any station who has the rights to a sporting event irraspective to show it live on one of thier channels,

8, What is being done to stop tv stations discriminating against different time zone when presenting so called LIVE tv and will the Government of Both Side start to prosacute them under the trade practices act for stating that something is live (even by just showing the live sign) when they have delayed it, This really given you the irrites if you live outside sydney or Melbourne.

9, why is the government so anti digital radio with narrow cast capability which is now in generation 3 or 4 around the world.

10. Why does minister Coonan think that every Australian is Technology illiterate apart from her, her dept and the Liberal party?

Broadband Bill Whtiehead -- 13/11/07

1. Why Does the Liberal Government hate people who live in new subdivisions and force us to have Pair Gain Systems that can only support ADSL 1.

2. If you are lucky enough to have a newer RIM why does the government only allow Telstra to provide ADSL2+ services to BIGPond customers only.

3. Why does the government think it is ok for Telstra to provide a full Fibre connection to our local Node (the pair Gain Rim) but not allow us to connect to it or use it to get back to the exchange so we can get ADSL2+ services from your own carrier.

4. What is each party doing to stimulate inovation such as Powerline broad band ?

5. Why wont the current government Allow Foxtel to use the broadband netwrok to deliver content instead of the poorer performing satalite network.

6. Will both parties give an abosulte date that Telstra will be forced to Remove ALL pair Gain and RIM services or start paying compensation to every single customer affected in real dooars per day for every day they dont comply given that telstra is ripping Billions and Billions of dollars off us for a Network that the tax payer payed for.

7. Will a Labor government commit to breaking up Telstra completly into 3 bits retail, Wholesale and infrastructure to allow for true competion in the telecomunications market.

8. What is both sides going to do about the inflated cost of SMS traffic and other data services on the wirless network given that the cost of providing these services is less than .001 of a cent per transaction so 25cents per transaction is oh robbery !

Question Anonymous -- 14/11/07

How long until our internet download and upload speeds are brought up to par with the rest of the world?

Waiting to Exhail Media Researcher -- 20/11/07 (in reply to #320089756)

Wait a minute, my ADSL speed is kind of slow right now. I'll get back to you in a moment.

This is what you will hear, so stop asking for faster speeds, you Moron, or do you want to pay more taxes?

Tomorrow's Woes Anonymous -- 14/11/07

Coonan:
Do the Liberals have any broadband plans beyond providing what is really considered the bottom end of the speed scale when Australia should be preparing for speeds of 100mps immediately?
Conroy:
Why doesn't the Labor plan for Broadband take the Optic Fibre right to the home instead of the mpore restrictive to node only?
Both:
Why aren't either party willing to do what is necessary and force Telstra to be split into wholesale and retail divisions or are the Shareholders more important than the 99% of the population who aren't shareholders.

Why Fibre to the node when wireless will become quicker Roger Knight -- 14/11/07

To Mr Conroy; Why is labor clinging to Fiber to the node technology talk when it's obvious to everyone else in the IT world that the future is in Wireless High Speed Internet and at a fraction of the price with the opportunity for healthy market competition?

Third World Broadband Anonymous -- 14/11/07

Why do we continue to pay a high price for a substandard service. The speed of our high speed internet is a joke by world standards, it is incredibly expensive, and it is still capped and shaped (i.e. slowed down after a certain download limit is reached to sub dial up speeds).

Five years ago when I lived in Japan broadband was faster and cheaper.

Last year when I lived in Fiji, they were just getting broadband - it was at the same standard of what we are paying through the nose for now in Australia.

Q and A Anonymous -- 14/11/07

1. Will the government regulate the fees being charged by the owners of the 3 links that connect Australia to the rest of the world to bring the pricing of broadband to where it is internationally and remove the need for capped broadband.

2. Do you have a plan for the implementation of a national fiberoptics network, at the very least from the backbone through the exchange to the rims.

Competition John -- 14/11/07

Is the level of competition in the communications industry adequate?

If not, what measures do you propose to take to make the market competitive, to the benefit of consumers?

Competition Malcolm Moore -- 15/11/07 (in reply to #320089780)

Now that it has been proven that infrastructure competition is a dead loss for the end users of all telecommunications services, what actions will be taken and by when to remove all telecomms infrastructure competiton and move that competition into the reselling retail market (where it belongs) - like Coles, Woolies, Myer, DJs, Crazy Johns, Harvey Norman etc.....

Competitive retail services from a common wholesale provider is the only area where competition can be of benefit to consumers!

Bigpond and Optus could fit there (with ASX listings), but both would have to relinguish their infrastructure to Telstra as the efficient telecomms infrastructure provider, and Telstra would have no retail customers and not be listed in the ASX.

The ACCC could then find another job - but that could be difficult as according to some well doctored statistics: Australia is 96.5% fat free!!

Restore Value to Telstra Shareholders Geoff -- 14/11/07

Why does the government contiually make decisions that erode the value of Teslstra to its shareholders, especially as the Government itself (Future Fund) is the major shareholder.

What will either minister do to ensure that this is rectified, such as structural decsions to separate the infrastructure business from the sales business with an appropriate share split and then charge other business an appropriate cost to access the infrastructure owned by Telstra

Why does the Government prefer to deal with foreign owned companies in telecoms - what is Labour's position on this.

How will they fix the Governments currently conflicted positon as policy maker and shareholder

Excuss Me! Anonymous -- 23/11/07 (in reply to #320089783)

Excuss me but that infustructure that you talk about was paid for by us TAX PAYERS it should never have been sold but ignoreing that fact, the two operational arms of telstra should not have been sold togeather as a monopally.

So to you howard/telstra cherrleader, think with your head not your pocket! becuase we all know tight a^&ss are the scum of the earth.

inability to deliver broadband to 'remote' areas Anonymous -- 14/11/07

When will I get broadband, considering I live near the coast and near a city, but have been told by Telstra I'm in a 'remote' area?

Credibility Anonymous -- 14/11/07

Why should we pay attention to either party on "future proofing" regional infrastructure? Neither has proposed more than the next bandaid which probably be will be out of date within one parliamentary term of the completion of roll-out.

Telephone services David Evans -- 14/11/07

How can Telstra justify multi-million dollar management salaries when I, a pensioner, have to pay for a call-out to repair my phone and wait in for a repair person who may or may not call?

Telephone services David Evans -- 14/11/07 (in reply to #320089793)

Re earlier question: Telstra's man has just been and fixed the problem at no cost. He also gave me some valuable advice. I therefore want to restrict my question to the first nine words: How can Telstra justify multi-million dollar management salaries?

International cable operators Tom Russell -- 14/11/07

Preamble.
Australians connect to the rest of the world via undersea cables that are owned by foreign companies who charge different fees for download and upload data rates.

Because there are so few cables coming to Australia, they can and do charge us at premium rates. This is a primary factor in costing an Internet connection.

Upload is more expensive, which is why ISPs offer plans with say 512/128.

The continuing rise in interactive use means that users will need plans with say 512/512.

Q1. Will either party negotiate with these cable owners for a much better contract for equitable interactive International Internet use, as such a contract is a mandatory requirement to enable their promise to deliver faster and cheaper broad band to Australia.

Q2. Will either party consider using a government agency to purchase bandwidth from these International cable owners for the benefit of all Australian Internet infrastructure providers.

Coonan v Conroy Broadband Anonymous -- 14/11/07

Why is it that we live less than 25km from Brisbane but we cannot get broadband access? Poor Technology design or just no competition...no reason to serve us.

Coonan v Conroy Broadband Malcolm Moore -- 15/11/07 (in reply to #320089796)

Please understand that when you have competition - you implicitly need to have two sets of infrastructure - fighting each other to get your money. It's like making love to a Boxer after he/she has gone the whole 15 rounds - they look crap and are very sore, and you (the customer) come a long way down the chain; if you get my drift!

The prime problem is competition itself! With one prime infrastructure provider, the infrastructure network operators would not be infighting, as the focus is providing the services quietly and efficiently - without the expensive advertising and marketing - and you would have had a much better, faster, cleaner service some years ago.

Poor Technology design is another byproduct of competition where all corners are cut to look like the service is provided; and that, my anonymous friend, is the reason why you cannot have Broadband access!

WiMAX Anonymous -- 14/11/07

An open question to both: since WiMAX has been shown to deliver broadband data speeds significantly faster than 3G technology like Telstra's Next G, and at a much lower cost to customers, what's stopping service providers from bypassing Telstra's network entirely - for both voice calls (over IP) and data?

The WiMAX silver bullet (software engineer) Mike Parnell and (Councillor) Jim McCrudden -- 14/11/07

One topic .. Wimax spectrum.

The current situation.

Regional Australian ISP's do not have access to spectrum to supply WiMAX services to customers. We are still trying to crawl out of the dialup age.

Internationally, these issues have been addressed and WiMAX 2.3G and 2.5G services are being rolled out commercially, now under the umbrella of IMT2000 TDD technologies.

As most people in the bush know, the 2.3G spectrum was sold off in a misconceived deal and is effectively lost to the bush until 2015.

For technical reasons, the only practical spectrum remaining is the 2.5G spectrum. This is currently licensed to our broadcasters to use as electronic news gathering services (ENG) exclusively, Australia wide.

The choice became, to either upset the broadcasters in an election year, and suffer the consequences, or to listen to the requests from regional ISPs. The government submitted to the demands of the broadcasters and abandoned the bush. They could chose between betrayal and chaos, they chose betrayal, but they have got chaos.

This is why Regional Australia does not have any WiMAX services. It has been stalled at the request of the ENG fraternity. A myriad of pseudo technical reasons have been used to excuse this abandonment of regional Australia, but the truth is simply that it is a power struggle between the broadcasters and the government, with regional Australia losing.

A solution:

WiMAX at 2.5GHz is a very good solution, if engineered correctly. The rest of the world feels this way as well.

Whether I have expressed this matter eloquently or not, the question that must be eventually answered is

--Will any government support the request of Regional Australian providers to gain access to a portion of this 2.5G spectrum, which in turn, will allow WiMAX services to be rolled out widely to Regional Australia?

This is not a political problem, it is an engineering problem. Who will fix it?

Connan vs Conroy Anonymous -- 14/11/07

What's the point of offering to answer questions, when neither of them do?

So far they have avoided answering good questions for which they have neither a policy nor any idea how to solve the problem.

But then that seems to be how both parties are running their campaign in this election.

Is it surprising that voters have stopped listening?

Debate format and results Bill Caelli -- 15/11/07 (in reply to #320089805)

I agree. It is critical that the debate chair has a firm grip on and understanding of ICT and the debate and insists on real answers to real questions - those posed by such activities as this forum and not "self-posed" questions a la Rudd. Answers have to be policy and implementation specific, e.g. the spectrum debate, with clear and precise commitments by each side. This means that a lot of responsibility lies with the convenor/chair and it is on him or her that the overall success or not of this activity depends.

Right On, Man! Media Researcher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089805)

Now I really agree with this person.

RIGHT ON, MAN! RIGHT ON!

Maturity Media Researcher -- 20/11/07 (in reply to #320089805)

Well Mr Anonymous,

I think they are both in a better position to solve these problems then you are.

I think they should just avoid answering your silly question, if that's the best you can do and talk to people as though you were an adult.

Questions Anonymous -- 14/11/07

1. Why has Internet costs almost doubled in the last 6 months across all ISP's.

2. Considering the large number of computer gamers over 18, why is there no 18+ rating for computer games.

3. With increasing numbers of people working from home. What are you doing to increase Internet speeds, response times(ping) and afford ability at home.

CONAN THE STUPIDIAN wayne greenhalgh -- 15/11/07

Q. Why are you the minister for communications when you are illiterate on the issue.?
No more questions required hehehe

Name Calling? Media Researcher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089850)

Well Wayne Strain,

Don't call Helen Coonan that. Show some respect. Please!

Knucklehead!

Broadband spectrum selloff Anonymous -- 15/11/07

This will turn my swinging vote! What guarantees will you make about protecting the freelance sound industry from having to pay license fees to use radio microphones if you sell off the broadband spectrum, or will you guarantee not to sell it off? This issue will put a lot of us out of business, not to mention killing your own precious media coverage day to day.

Broadband spectrum sellof Anonymous -- 15/11/07 (in reply to #320089852)

I would like to add my support to the rising concerns of our media industry here in Australia regarding spectrum allocation. I challenge you to find copies of our industry directories Encore/Production Book and when you do you will be holding a list of names of whose livelyhoods will be directly effected by
any prosposed spectrum selloff.
The media industry in this country needs support not a final nail in the coffin.
If you want our votes then act now!

reduce regulation Anonymous -- 15/11/07

Who will actually reduce regulation in ICT?

Reduce regulation??!! Anonymous -- 15/11/07 (in reply to #320089860)

Why would we want reduced regulation? The telecommunications companies ride roughshod over us already. Think of the CDMA closure, of charges for sms that are way above what it costs them to provide, of connection fees and disconnection fees, late charges, fake "caps" and limited "unlimited" deals... Martin Luthor King said "Morality cannot be legislated, but behaviour can be regulated; judicial decrees may not change the heart, but they can restrain the heartless"

Worlds Apart Media Researcher -- 20/11/07 (in reply to #320089865)

Well there Anonymous,

A very profound statement, indeed. But Martin Luthor King didn't have to deal with Telstra either.

Free at last, free at last, thank "Telstra" almighty, free at last!

Why cant I get Broadband in a Brisbane Suburb, 16 k's from the CBD? Anonymous -- 15/11/07

The last 18 month I lodged about 5 application's with BigPond for a Broadband connection. When I check for availabilty it tells me that my Exchange (Mt Gravatt) has plenty of ports, but 2 days later Telstra ( in a usual arrogant manner)phones me to let me know that at this stage there are unable to provide the Service and that I should look at getting Wireless. I am not happy having to go to Wireless as it far more expensive, but I would if I could get Wireless / Mobile phone coverage at my adress.For me to have any mobile phone coverage I have to walk around on the Verandah hold the phone up and may get a signal. I think this is not good enough in 2007 and I would not vote for a party that has been unable to fix something as basic as telecommunication.

CDMA closure L Duke -- 15/11/07

I know people who are already having problems from being forced onto NextG. Coverage is less, wireless broadband speeds are appalling, and Telstra is even charging some of them a $25 connection fee, even though they have no choice!!

Democracy in the Making Media Researcher -- 20/11/07 (in reply to #320089864)

Well there Dukey,

There is always a choice. Let's see Optus, Vodaphone. Don't settle, change to a different system.

Oh, and by the way, recently changed to Telstra's Next Geeeeeeez Network and I haven't experienced those things.

Do you think you and your friends just like to complain about stuff?

Community Broadcasting Anonymous -- 15/11/07

Question for both Senators Coonan and Conroy:

If you are in government in 2008:
1. How will you assist the maintenance and further development of Australia's extensive community radio sector and nascent community television sector?

2. How and when will you resolve the present impasse with regard to community televisions' lack of access to digital spectrum?

3. When and how will you respond to the findings of the House of Representatives Standing Committee on Communications, Information Technology and the Arts Inquiry into Community Broadcasting?

I Love Big Words Media Researcher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089877)

Oooooo! Nascent! I love that word. For those who don't know what it means, it is budding, or promising, etc.

Yes, the federal govenment will head this situation at the pass. Oh you said impasse. Well that too. At present, there is no lack of access to digital spectrum, there is just no decision on the use of the services yet.

The House, please they are on fire (the house, the house, the house is on fire). We don't need no spectrum promises, let us have it all right now!

Community Broadcasting Anon -- 15/11/07

Why have neither party made a commitment to fund the National Training Project, (training over 8000 broadcasters a year) or digital conversion of Community Television, both of which need a funning commitment within six months in order to survive?

Speculation Media Researcher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089885)

As far as the 8000 broadcasters being trained. Trained to do what exactly? and by whom?

The community television sector will do fine no matter when they re-start. Oops! I said re-start, I meant get digital spectrum.

There is a "Near Future", just wait.

Future Plans Mike Boyd -- 16/11/07

Plenty is being promised about the short-term future of the Australian communications landscape, but the landscape will likely change more in the next term of federal government than it has in the past 3. What are the future plans (if any) of each party beyond the upcoming term?

Nuturing Nature Media Researcher -- 20/11/07 (in reply to #320089916)

MORE FERTILIZER! OKAY?

Community Television Greg Dee General Manager C31 Melbourne -- 16/11/07

Senator Conroy, community television faces extinction unless it is given access to the digital broadcast spectrum. Can you reassure the millions of viewers across Australia, who have been waiting for an announcement or a commitment of some kind, that this important voice of the people will survive into the future if the ALP takes office, and practically speaking, how will you ensure this survival?

The Future Looks Dismal My Friend! Media Researcher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089931)

Don't expect any commitment from either party there Greg. At this stage, the real decision is in the hands of the ACCC and the ACMA concerning digital spectrum allocation, and I can tell you, you won't get a definate answer from them either.

Try knocking on their door.

Channel 31 Jim Wright -- 16/11/07

Why can't i get Channel 31 through my digital set top box?

Why Are You Searching? Media Researcher -- 20/11/07 (in reply to #320089932)

Because frankly Jim, they are not there yet? Doh!

Just be patient, or did you buy your set top box specifically for the purpose of watching community television?

Community TV Steven Robinson -- 16/11/07

Considering both sides of politics have yet to make any real contribution to community TV, i'd like to know WHEN (ie. a date) that they plan to make Channel 31 digital so i can watch it again.

I'm Wishing On A Star Media Researcher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089933)

I know everyone who has contributed to this site is attempting to express heartfelt expressions, but some of the questions being asked are unbelievable.

Steven, what side of politics are expecting a straight answer from?

Community TV Nathanael james -- 16/11/07

I'd like to ask both senators what their plans for community TV are! When are they going to be made digital and how!

We can't afford to lose local community voices and the training ground for the rest of the industry.

Nathanael James

The Future Is Promising Media Researcher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089934)

Question: Have you seen the movie Tron?

Nathanael James, you can't afford to participate in community televison. What are you complaining about?

Community TV!!!! Anonymous -- 16/11/07

A question for both senators, What are you going to do about community TV? there are so many great TV programs on community TV! it would be such a shame if I can't watch them because they can't have digital!!!!!

Patience My Friend Media Researcher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089935)

If community television goes down the drain, I'm sure you will find your favorite show either on cable television services, the Intenet or on the shelf of your favorite video rental store. That's if producers don't resort to pan handling their works door-to-door.

C31 Dave Simpson -- 16/11/07

Rove, Hamish and Andy, Jo Stanley, Peter Hellier, Dave Hughes, Georgi Quill... Titans of broadcasting talent but 6 years ago and in most cases - less were all on community TV in Melbourne... and that's just in front of the camera, there's also literally hundreds of TV producers, camera people, sound techs etc that started their careers with real broadcasting experience on C31.

Community TV is suffering because the government refuses to acknowledge its important place in the media landscape as a home for disparate voices and a training ground for the entire industry.

Who will save community TV and protect the future of this cost effective training facility?

Are You Running Out of Suckers? Media Researcher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089936)

I would suspect that most left because they had to survive in the real world.

If communit television was of such importance to the career advancement of the behind the scenes people, then just name a few that have been successful and prominent?

Ha, ha, Got Ya!

Community television Scott Seymour -- 16/11/07

Do you feel that community broadcasting has any value to the Australian public?
If so how much will be allocated to see it survive by ensuring it is broadcast on the digital spectrum?

Do You Want The Truth? Media Researcher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089937)

Well, actually,.......................................NOPE!

At this point, your second questions is irrelvant.

Try asking the public first, and then give them the results of the public's interest in maintaining a community television service, and don't go running to OzTAM for their false figures.

Community TV to be given a fair deal? Anonymous -- 16/11/07

When will Channel 31 be given a digital license?
What part does Community TV play in this country's future?

A Direct Answer. Media Researcher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089938)

When they bloody well feel like it (full stop)!

Second answer: They play the part as a bloody nuisance.

Community TV Rob Cane -- 16/11/07

Well said.
Will community 31 TV even make it to the 2012 switch-off without the support of the fed. gov? if everyone's got digital set top boxes (which is what the gov wants yes?) who's left to watch 31?
Surely the digital take-up would be smoother for all Australians if community TV was part of it now and not as some far off distant date?
Conroy and Coonan need to make a commitment now, before it's too late.

Is it the end of the world? Media Researcher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089940)

What? Is the creative process going to conclude prior to 2012?

Is this another form of brain-drain?

You ask, who will be left to watch community television? Well, I suspect it would be the apes, since you feel that the world will come to an end and that there would be no future for this industry.

And, NOPE! They don't have to make a commitment, they can just keep industry operatives hanging on to promises. What you going to do, vote them out for a better puppet?

Channel 31 Television Nicholas Simmons -- 16/11/07

Myself, work colleagues, friends and family have thoroughly enjoyed watching Channel 31, and the fact that they are not digital we are now unable to view it as we have all acquired a digital set top box - Channel 31 is analogue stil??. Why have they not been given a digital licence with such a professionally run channel and fantastic Melbourne programs?

Why has community TV been left out of the digital future? Karen Melder -- 16/11/07

1. Why hasn't community television been given the same opportunities to simulcast in analogue and digital, as well as multichannel, just like ALL the other free-to-air channels?

2. Why hasn't Minister Coonan respond to the 2 reports that she commissioned which recommended that community TV be given a digital license, spectrum and, funding?

3. The Greens have announced that they will support the recommendations of the 'Tuning in to Community Broadcasting' report including funding for community TV to 'go digital'. Will the Coalition and ALP match this commitment? If so when? Community TV has been left in limbo for over a decade. When will the 'major' parties set specific timelines for digital conversion of community television?

go greens Anonymous -- 16/11/07 (in reply to #320089942)

the greens seem to have some very good policy in this area

Why, why, why, why, why! Media Researcher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089942)

Geeeeeeeeeeez, could you be any more winey?

The answer to your questions:

1. Because they don't like you? any other questions?

2. I think she is a bit busy to answer your winey questions.

3, So go bother the greens and leave the present government alone, or wait till Kevin 07 gets in office and bother him.

Knock, knock.

Who's there?

Digital.

Digital who?

Digital underground and we want it now!

AUSTRALIAN CHILDREN'S TV CHANNEL Anonymous -- 16/11/07

Why will the ALP not announce its support for the proposal by the ABC and the Aust. Children's Television Foundation to fund a dedicated Australian Children's digital TV Channel?

Media researcher simon -- 20/11/07 (in reply to #320090175)

when Labor wins on Sat you will be out of a job, good thing too as you really don't add any value here..

Digital licenses for Community Television Anonymous -- 16/11/07

Yes, I want to know what each party can do to get community stations like Channel 31 in Melbourne and others around the country onto Digital?

Let's Throw A Kegger, Dude! Media Researcher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089945)

Dear Anonymous, or is that ananamust?

I'm too drunk to notice. Really though, the Parties can be very supportive and look at the proper way in which the digital spectrum can be allocated and used by the sector. It does however look very promising, but just hang on there, it will soon come to your local community.

Community Broadcasting. Jessica Redgrave -- 16/11/07

Hello,

I find it amazing that neither party has a plan for the future community TV. Are local voices of no importance to them?

Channel 31 is fantastic and I would hate to see it disappear simply because the government failed to act in time.

Want to Fight? Media Researcher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089946)

Well Jessica,

The way I see it, the community television stations don't care also about local voices if you look at most of the programming that is aired.

I admit though, it could be a fantastic venue, but it needs reforming to allow for OPEN public involvement, commitment and relevance.

Don't You Agreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Seeking Employment? Media Researcher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089947)

Well Scott,

I would say your future employment won't be in the community television sector. However, I hope the training program that they boast about has been helpful in knocking down the doors of the limited job availabilities with the networks, ABC and SBS. Try going to New Zealand or some where else overseas. You will probably have a better chance and make more money.

Oh, did I step on the toes of shadow minister for education, Stephen Smith?

No really Scott, media jobs are very limited in Australia, so you will have to be very aggressive in getting one, or just wait until one of these old farts die out.

Question for Helen Coonan and Stephen Conroy David Wombat Lyons -- 16/11/07

Melbourne, like many parts of Australia is lucky to have a community television station, like many parts of Australia.

Already many people are missing out on seeing this station because it is not Digital, in a few years, no one will see this station unless the Governement give them the funding to go Digital

would your parties support Digital community television?

Like What, Man! Media Researcher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089951)

Well Mister David,

Like, uhm the Minister is very excited that Melbourne has been able to trick its public into thinking that they have a community television station that cares about them and what they have to say. Why else would they broadcasting national and international programming?

Missing out you ask? I think most of the programs that are aired on community television I've seen in a video store or in the library.

QUESTION FOR HELEN COONAN AND MR CONROY Anonymous -- 16/11/07

WILL YOU PROVIDE COMMUNITY TELEVISION STATIONS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIMULCAST DIGITAL AND ANALOGUE LEADING UP TO THE CHANGEOVER. THEY ARE IN DANGER OF LOSING THEIR AUDIENCES IF YOU LEAVE IT MUCH LONGER AND THEY ARE SUCH A VALUABLE ASSET TO THIS COUNTRY.

WE PROMISE! MEDIA RESEARCHER -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089952)

ARE YOU YELLING AT US? STOP IT! STOP IT!

MAYBE NOT LEADING UP TO THE CHANGEOVER, BUT YES, THEY WILL GET IT!

DO YOU HEAR US, GET IT!

Community Television Murray Spokes -- 16/11/07

Given that the government has mandated that commercial tv stations are required to broadcast in digital and that analog will become redundant at some point in the future why is it that community tv stations such as channel 31 in Melbourne are not granted a digital transmission license now. Consumers that are purchasing digital receivers and/or televisions are being denied access to these services.

What is the policy of either Labor or Liberal parties in relation to the granting of digital transmission licenses and grants to enable these organistations to upgrade infrastrcuture.

They Have Been Begging Media Researcher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089954)

Really, they have been very naughty and Auntie Coonan does not like that.

If people are buying these expensive digital set top boxes, I think they are have vision of grandeur about what they want and expect to see on them. The policy for both parties is that the government feels your pain and soon you will be able to join the many other television broadcasters craming down crap into the public's throat (eye's and ears). Have they created smellavision yet?

Community Television and Digital TV David O'Brien -- 16/11/07

will both ministers give a committment to making sure Community TV gets involved in the digital television changover

The Dating Game Media Researcher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089955)

Well, first off, the federal government, no matter under what political party is not in the business of establishing relationships. They can regulate it, spy on you and even call you in for a Parliamentary proceeding, but getting folks together. Well just leave that one to those interested in doing so. Unless you pay us (more tax dollars).

But really, I think they have been considering the proposition and it is promising. Just working on a few wedding and honeymoon ideas first:-)

community TV Anonymous -- 16/11/07

Will either of you give digital licences to community TV stations so they survive?

If not, where will the tax dollars come from to supply alternative training grounds for students of communications and media?

Catch the Flowers Media Researcher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089956)

Okay, all CTV operatives stand in the back of the wedding procession and prepare to catch to digital spectrum bouqet.

Let's see.................................HECS, uhm................ and other student loans available for people seeking to attend accredited schools, universities and training institutions.

Community Broadcasting Daniel Schultheis -- 16/11/07

C31 are one of the few organisations actively involved in the skilling of new television practitioners and shows, many of whom (unacknowledged) go on to feed the free-to-air public and commercial television broadcasters in this country (who do not seem to be as actively inolved in skilling or product development but are prepared to reap the benefits).
As Australian content is a valuable cultural commodity and export earner & as there is a skills shortage in broadcast technician which would see the industry short of staff in the next 5 years, it would be tragic for the industry if the not-for-profit community station were to fall victim of the switch from analogue to digital. Government support to the community television sector in Australia in facilitating the urgent switch to digital & access to the digital spectrum should be given the highest priority in my opinion.

Sincere Regards,

Daniel Schultheis
Accredited Training Coordinator
OPEN CHANNEL

What's On the Menu Tonight? Media Reseacher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089957)

Well, you're feeding mainstream media, why not the rest of the world?

Yea, yea, yea. I've heard it all. CTV provides an avenue to becoming a professional. I have never been so bored in hearing that statement all the time. In most cases the one's who have moved on to greener pastures have been the one's in front of the cameras. Just name one, just one great producer or director that came up through the ranks of CTV and still boast of their success being attributed to this media sector?

Oh, I'm sorry to be so harsh.

Channel 31's digital license Katherine Anne -- 16/11/07

Channel 31 have been waiting a long time to be allocated digital spectrum, and still there is no answer!
So many people are missing out, and can no longer access these important community shows. Some people are living in areas where they cannot pick up channel 31. A digital license would allow everyone to see and access this important community channel. Some people have been fooled into buying digital set top boxes, thinking this would improve their channel 31 reception, only to harshly find out that they can no longer watch their much loved programmes!
Come on it's time to put it in writing, give community tv a future!

Missing Out? Media Researcher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089958)

You want an answer? Do you really want an answer? You can't handle the answer.

Dear Katerine, their are people missing out on commerical, public and Pay TV for the crap they've been airing. However, I do support the efforts of CTV obtaining digital spectrum, maybe because I'm a bit mad, but why leave them out of the crappy broadcasting circus.

It's Democracy Man!

Community Television Digital Licensing Jason Allen -- 16/11/07

Community television faces an uncertain future - do you support, and will you commit to, implementing the findings of the House Committee on Communications, IT and the Arts inquiry into Community Broadcasting, which recommended the provision of funding and digital spectrum to Community Television stations around the country?

Are We Married Yet? Media Researcher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089959)

I DO! So where are we going on our honeymoon?

Anyway, I like your comment, but did you really believe that a commitment would mean money?

Well, there might some funds to get CTV into the digital spectrum, but there are so many community radio stations out there, they are the one's eating up all the funding, not to mention the ever increasing budget of the CBAA and their expanding staffing. What have they done for you lately?

Sustaining Community Television Anonymous -- 16/11/07

Will there be any assistance for Community TV to go digital in the near future? I work on a program that gives practical advice to all Australians about how to live more sustainably, and we are piloting it on channel 31 nationally. It is so frustrating that so many people can't see it and won't have the chance very soon! The fact that the future of our program is at risk is outrageous. Community TV needs support - is it too much to ask? please consider the value that it has in the community

Is There A Commitment To Localism? Media Researcher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089960)

Hey, where is your commitment to localism? Why nationally through CTV stations? Something like that will probably do you well, profit wise if you approached the ABC with it.
Stay local with your program and let the other communities produced a similar style show for their areas. Just sell them the template like the commercial stations do. It's called franchising.

Digital TV Fiona Barton -- 16/11/07

Will either party commit to keeping our community Tv channels working with the change over to digital. Will either party contribute funding to suppory the digital change over for community tv and keep great channels like C31 going.

Broad Band Uptake Oscar Argueso -- 16/11/07

Given the massive uptake in BroadBand anticipated from the release of policies from both parties, how do you plan to ensure diversity in local media for example Community TV & Radio stations to support our unique local talent and micro communities - or are we only going to be able to view content not made in Australia. Can either member make a commitment on this issue?

Upload Speeds Anonymous -- 16/11/07

When can both Australian Businesses and Users expect to see higher upload speed services. Both parties seam to go on about download speeds but never talk about upload speed being dismally slow. At present the only way to get truly Broadband upload speeds to to spend a small fortune on SHDSL services, especially if you live in a regional area.

Spectrum Allocation Anonymous -- 16/11/07

The EM spectrum is a limited resource that should be controlled for all of the community, not for the highest profit of a few.

Is there going to be adequate community consultation in future spectrum allocation and re-allocations or will it just be a revenue raising exercise where no considerations other than dollar values will be considered?

Will the slow uptake and marginal market for "mobile TV" be acknowledged and treated with caution?

Will the community television and radio segments receive any funding, spectrum allocation, technical assistance or anything else to migrate to digital transmission? If so when and how much?

Did you miss the last public comment session? Media Researcher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089965)

Oh, it's about time I revealed myself:

Well, I would agree with you on the first topic you raise, however, the ACMA did ask for public comment back in 2006.

There were many submissions, but they were mainly from communication and media companies, oh and all of the CTV stations, except Briz31, oh excuse me "31".

The Minister has seen all plans and is working hard with the ACCC and the ACMA to insure that proper allocation of the licenses are considered and that all players interested in the use of these licenses will have a chance to lease one of them.

Digital Television Kristin Stephensen -- 16/11/07

In regards to Digital Television, what are the broadcasting options that you have given Channel 31 so far?

In or Out Media Researcher -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089967)

Well the answer to this most profound questions is............................................ You will either be on the digital spectrum, or........................................NOT!

How's that, or do you need a fortune cookie with that?

its not black and white you know Anonymous -- 09/03/08 (in reply to #320090151)

Hey, it's a good question! Ch 31 needs to get its license NOW, as opposed to simply switching over in 2012, otherwise they are losing viewers. The current option is to do this hot swap, which sucks for Ch 31 and its viewers. I would be nice if the government could elaborate and clarify its plans, or at least give a timeline.

Channel 31 Anonymous -- 16/11/07

To: Coalition Communications Minister Helen Coonan and Labor communications spokesperson Stephen Conroy.
1. WHAT ARE YOUR VIEWS/POLICIES WITH REGARDS TO YOUR PARTY'S SUPPORT OF CHANNEL 31?
2. WHAT SPECIAL ROLE DO YOU SEE THAT CHANNEL 31 PLAYS IN OUR COMMUNITY?
3.NO OTHER CHANNEL OFFERS WHAT CHANNEL 31 OFFERS THE COMMUNITY. DO YOU AGREE\? WHY OR WHY NOT?

Do You Really Want An Answer To This? Anonymous -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089968)

It is prior to the election. Do you really expect a straight answer from either spokesperson?

I would say, on question 1, you will get a tap dance routine.

On question 2, you will get the all favorite political answer.

And on question 3, well just forget about that one. You know they are on the side of commercial and public media.

Just watch the debate and see how they answer all questions.

QUESTION: COMMUNITY TELEVISION Andrew Carroll -- 16/11/07

Both parties have failed to spell out the future for community television. Not one cent has been offered to community television to deal with conversion to digital, while millions have been handed out to the other free to air television stations. You've both said community television is important for media diversity. How important is community television to both Liberal and Labor or are they prepared to see it disappear from Australia's media landscape?

Not So Dim Future Anonymous -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089970)

From both political parties:

T h e f u t u r e f o r c o m m u n i t y t e l e v i s i o n. How's that? Does that work for you?

No really. They have seriously looked at the sector and they are very keen for its continuance. I'm feeling positive, how about you?

Channel 31 Anonymous -- 16/11/07

Commercial television has a new maxim, why pay to train young people for a career in television when we can let community television do if for us, for free!
If this is the new reality for the Australian television industry then the government should give more support to Channel 31 & the like as an important tool in addressing the 'skills shortage' in Australia.
But Channel 31 can't train people if it doesn't have a digital future can it?

Training You Say? Anonymous -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089975)

Well, if its training you want in order to get into the television industry, why not try technical schools (TAFE), or maybe even a university that is well connected to the outside industry. This is where most of those who now work in mainstream media come from. Don't expect the community television industry to provide training for your career advancement. They are not, or are they really established to do so.

Digital Community Television Access? Markian Jaworsky -- 16/11/07

As a Community television producer of the past 5 years, I would like to know what platform for independent broadcasting will be available for Australia once digital television becomes the standard is all households? Does either party wish Australia to be a free-thinking clever country, or just an advertising waste-land of consumers?

Same Old Thing Anonymous -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089977)

Well, the way I see it and what the government will hand out will, unfortunately be the same old thing. Don't expect the expansion of CTV services unless the digital spectrum offered to them is split to lower broadcast signals and then you will have the same old crappy quality you are used too.

Support for Community Media Misha Adair -- 16/11/07

What will either elected government help to ensure that community media such as Ch. 31 survive and grow in a time when providing such media steadily increases and the means of producing such media becomes more and more difficult?

Who's going to stand up and support the vibrant, much-needed and socially rich area of volunteer-based media production?

Election Unassurances Anonymous -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089978)

At this point, you can bet neither party will commit to anything as of yet. I think if you look back on comments made by each Party about their support for community broadcasting, they all said "it's great, and we support its existance". That is about how much you will get out of them for now. Yet, wait until after the elections are over and they still will slow the process up. I really hope you haven't been waiting for that golden ring from a politician? Have you?

Support for Community Television Rob Napier -- 16/11/07

Senator Coonan, I am a disgruntled Liberal voter. No doubt Stewart Macarthur hopes you can offer an answer that will bring me back into the fold!

Could you explain why Channel 31 has to go to such lengths to garner support for conversion to digital format?

With money being thrown around on stupid, meaningless advertising of late (Oh, did someone say it is an election years?), a fraction of those funds could have protected the future of community television.

In Time, In Time Anonymous -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089979)

Well mister Liberal,

There are presently a lot of issues that the federal government has to consider when considering dealing out public tax dollars. Just hold on to your hat and you will soon see CTV on digital spectrum. Okay?

Digital Community Television Anonymous -- 16/11/07

Will either party commit to supporting the transition of community television to the digital broadcast system?

Digital CTV Anonymous -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089980)

Yes, eventually they will get digital spectrum, but buyer beware. There will be stipulations attached to the spectrum that will change all operational and presentation methods presently employed with CTV stations. Stay tuned for the new digital channels A & B. It will be great!

Broadband Access to Pensioners & Low Income Anonymous -- 16/11/07

Why is it that people on pensions/disability pensions, low incomes miss out on low cost broadband. There appears to be a lot of money and computers being given to the young, but what about some quality of life for those who can't afford the high costs of broadband? How about some low cost access fees? There are some people who are studying and on pensions and need that access. Normal internet access takes forever and in most cases impossible to listen to live stream videos or TV.

Fight The Power! Media Researcher -- 20/11/07 (in reply to #320089982)

Hey, I'll join you on this one.

Fight the power, fight the power!

Grey Power for Ever, or until expired!

Could the universities build a better network. Anonymous -- 16/11/07

Given that the major telco's in Australia spend alot of time and money on lawyers, marketting and execs, would the responsibility of building networks to better serve Australia's telecommunications needs be better if given to our universities?

The telcos can still have a role selling bandwidth and services and even maintaining it.

Sounds like a better use of taxpayer funds.

C31 Anonymous -- 16/11/07

Why can't I get C31 on my new Digital set top box?

Not There Yet. Anonymous -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089985)

I really don't think this should be an answer the Minister should answer, don't you?

I would suspect that the reason being is that the community television stations don't broadcast in the digital spectrum, YET! Just wait and they will be there eventually, but better than ever.

C 31 .. digital? Anonymous -- 16/11/07

Why try to remove an avenue of expression for many types of program that can't get exposure on the main channels? It's cheap and popular and deserves to be rewarded , not pushed into extinction, for the service it has provided to many sectors of the community.

In Time, In Time Anonymous -- 19/11/07 (in reply to #320089990)

Well dear negative,

CTV is not being removed from anywhere. There are a lot of decisions and issues that the federal governement, both Liberal and Labor has to consider when handing out "public" tax dollars, or this doesn't concern you? Once the digital plan has been allocated and established, CTV will be offered space in the great digital divide. Stay Tuned!

C31 Anonymous -- 17/11/07

between C31 & sbs apart from those 2 stations i dont bother watching t.v.. so how come the govt can afford to give $1 billion yes thats $1billion to the ABC & SBS to convert to digital & screw over community TV like C31, no C31 no tv, i rather watch a blank tv screen than miss out on C31 TV

Found One. Media Researcher -- 20/11/07 (in reply to #320090011)

Sir, you are a complete and utterly foolish person. Don't you know that the people involved in community television work hard to disquise their purpose of providing a public voice to hopefully one day use your tax dollars to support their habit of becoming Australia's fourth commercial network.

Are you that loose with your tax dollars?

Or as Santa would say, Ho, ho, ho!

Community Television Digital Divide Anonymous -- 19/11/07

Well mister Liberal,

There are presently a lot of issues that the federal government has to consider when considering dealing out public tax dollars. Just hold on to your hat and you will soon see CTV on digital spectrum. Okay?

Pushing Back What? Anonymous -- 19/11/07

Well dear negative,
CTV is not being pushed back anywhere. There are a lot of decisions and issues that the federal governement, both Liberal and Labor has to consider when handing out "public" tax dollars, or this doesn't concern you? Once the digital plan has been allocated and established, CTV will be offered space in the great digital divide. Stay Tuned!

Is VoIP over WiMAX possible - YES! Mark Johnson -- 20/11/07

In the recent debatem Senator Conroy claimed that VoIP over WiMAX was not possible.

This is factually incorrect.

The International Telecommunications Union (ITU) has recently approved 802.16e as one of the global IMT2000 standards.

Many service operators around the world like British Telecom (UK), MVS (Mexico) and others are planning VoIP service using WiMAX equipment.

Upload Speeds (in Regional Areas) Anonymous -- 23/11/07

Sounds to me that you are complaining about the cost (and that is thanks to Competition that actually drives end user costs up to cover for extraneous costs like advertising, marketing, sponsoring and execuitive salaries).

Business can have very high upload speeds, thanks to Wideband giving you way above 0.064 Mb/s like 2 Mb/s, 155 Mb/s and higher, but you really have to have a well structured business case before you start complaining - and I suspect the latter.

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