BigPond savages Whirlpool broadband survey

Australia's largest Internet service provider, BigPond has criticised the results of a survey in which most respondents rated its customer service as 'awful' or 'average'.

A Telstra spokesperson described the survey -- where 22 percent of respondents who used BigPond rated its service as 'awful' and a further 43 percent as 'average' -- as using "extremely basic methodology," making invalid comparisons and skewed by the characteristics of its authors.

The survey was conducted by broadband community site Whirlpool, whose users, Telstra claims, "are high-end ... rather than reflective of the general Internet-using community".

Some of the spokesperson's comments appear to be supported by survey data. Forty-seven percent of respondents said they worked in the IT sector in some capacity. Seventy-eight percent rated themselves as either a guru or power user when it came to computers, while only 2.4 percent said they were still learning or a beginner.

The spokesperson added "There also are clear anomalies. Two of the 'best performing' ISPs for answering the phone within a minute only take calls during business hours, Monday to Friday, compared with BigPond's 24/7 service."

The survey -- conducted online in November and December last year -- garnered about 13,000 responses.

While BigPond and TPG Internet -- which also recorded poor customer service results -- sat at the lower end of the survey's scale, Perth provider WestNet achieved the highest-rated customer service. Only 1.5 percent of WestNet respondents regarded its customer service as awful or average and 86 percent viewed it was 'excellent'. Internode also rated highly.

The survey indicated telephone support was a big problem for BigPond and TPG. Forty-nine percent of BigPond and 62 percent of TPG respondents said they had to spend more than 10 minutes on the phone before being attended to. A significant proportion of those percentages related to waits of 20 minutes or more.

In contrast the overwhelming majority of WestNet customers -- 85 percent -- were connected in the first four minutes, along with 88 percent of Exetel customers.

BigPond and TPG also scored poorly on service contracts. Fifty-nine and 57 percent of users on BigPond and TPG respectively disliked the fact that their ISP could change the conditions of their contract at any time. Smaller but significant numbers were concerned about 'legalese' and vagueness.

Bigpond and TPG's woes didn't, however, stop at customer service. The two, along with iiNet, were spotlighted by users for poor reliability. Only 43 percent of those using BigPond were very happy with the reliability of their Internet connection, placing the ISP last among the list of major providers. TPG and iiNet were the only two other major carriers in BigPond's league when it came to reliability, at 52 and 55 percent respectively. The next-closest provider was OzEmail on 69 percent.

The Telstra spokesperson concluded that the 'well over 1000' BigPond customer service staff were continually reviewed and improved through training. In addition: "Our own surveying of customer satisfaction shows significant improvement in the past year and we will continue our efforts to maintain this trend," he said.

ZDNet Australia  was unable to reach TPG for comment.

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Talkback 51 comments

    What that old saying , He who ...Anonymous -- 08/04/05

    What that old saying , He who stands for nothing will swallow anything.. It's Telstra who lives in the land of the nevernver.

    Do you expect Telstra to admit ...Anonymous -- 08/04/05

    Do you expect Telstra to admit that there "service" is poor value, unreliable and poorly supported? On the other hand if they did, and tried to do something about it, they might at last gain some respect in the community. Maybe even the Telstra managers believe their own PR.

    It's typical of an organisatio ...Anonymous -- 08/04/05

    It's typical of an organisation with poor customer focus to deny the results of customer feedback. I've seen it many times. It's only when they take the criticism on board and do something about it, that the customer dissatisfaction will start to change.

    As a BigPond cable subscriber myself, I am totally disgusted by Telstra service. For example there are currently wide-spread and severe disruptions to the BigPong DNS service, resulting in major disrpution to the end-user experience and making a mockery of the "fast" internet experience. However, even after weeks of this, Telstra is still in denial mode. There are NO indications of this disruption on their service status page. Not good enough Telstra - wake up, smell the coffee and take notice of what your users are telling you!!

    They are all Smoke and mirrors ...Anonymous -- 09/04/05

    They are all Smoke and mirrors.

    Bigpond want us to believe that they care when they dont. Getting help if you need it means your system has to be Microsoft based and only use Microsoft applications for Mail and Web.

    Get real, If we all did what they wanted we would all suffer from the continous and ever changing threats that exist on the WWW.

    I love whirlpool and I support it forums, users and its policies.

    Bigpond can go suck eggs

    An old saying: "SELF PRAI ...Anonymous -- 09/04/05

    An old saying: "SELF PRAISE IS NO PRAISE!"

    Tel$tra have never recognised this very clear statement of fact.

    The "Mad Hatter's Tea Party" (the BP management)continues to shift the chairs, accomplishing nothing in the process.

    I gave them 3 years to get their act together & they failed, miserably! so I left them.
    BP has been & remains a mess, in every sense of the word.
    BP sales & marketing continues to dictate how TW deploys new technology and provides support, to the detriment of all concerned. When retail and wholesale are finally seperated, we may at last see improvement. Until then, nothing will change.

    BP BB will remain a 2nd grade provider who fails the test of any commercial organisation....Customer Service.

    Lets face it, Bigpond dont wan ...Anonymous -- 09/04/05

    Lets face it, Bigpond dont want to admit that their service if *EXTREMLY* poor value compared to its competitors. How can the survey be skewed.. its the users of whirlpool that voted.

    Myself, I use Bigpond cable, and once a week the system goes down, and the 10GIG plan with UPLOADS counted to your monthly allowance is insulting.
    It wouldnt be so bad if they didnt count uploads.. and 128kbit upload too is insulting for a medium that has capability of FAR greater speeds.
    My wife is always h****ling me "When can we cancel this <censored>".., My response is "When the competitors have their own ADSL DSLAM in our exchange" [within 3 months].

    Bigpond, you are the weakest link.. Goodbye.

    When I was talking to the pers ...Anonymous -- 09/04/05

    When I was talking to the person over issues (a problem at our end) the person on the other end KNEW what they were talking about. It was a big improvement from the PAID support I had at my last isp who eventually said "hang on... you again? I've gone through everything on my list, I can't help you"

    While telstra has room to improve on their response times, I value 24/7 support. Who studies during business hours?

    Telstra has more spin than sha ...Anonymous -- 09/04/05

    Telstra has more spin than shane warne when it comes to stories about them.

    High end. lol. isn't that a another term for people who know what their doing and thus have a much lower chance of letting you screw them over due to ignorance?

    Remember this people: if you complain too much your "high end" and "not reflective of the general internet using community" and so Telstra does not want you. You heard it straight from them.

    It's time to get real Telstra, ...Anonymous -- 09/04/05

    It's time to get real Telstra, and wake up to the fact that it's 2005 not 1985! Most users now have grown up with computers and are either highend users or not far from it, and what difference does it make anyway, terrible customer service is exactly that no matter who's opinion it is. I could go on and on, and quote some of the idiots i've had to deal with from telstra, and outline my experiences but there's a few limitations here.

    What i will say, however, is that it's the biggest shame of all time that we are slaves to telstra's horrible infrastructure including but not limited to so called customer service and telephone system.

    After Twenty plus years in the ...Anonymous -- 09/04/05

    After Twenty plus years in the IT industry, you learn to balance your statements/opinions on most topics or products unless your credibility is at stake.

    Telstra's Broadband services is one of those services where you can't recommend it, with a clear conscience.

    Agreed, their product is the same as many other ISP's in the country, especially using the ADSL exchange equipment or the copper connection. Where Telstra falls down however, is that its service is well below standard.

    Honestly, every time a read a report, where a Telstra "head" is quoted as believing their service is second to none or Telstra is making m****ive improvements, I wonder whether the spin machine is involved or they seriously believe what they are saying.

    I was interviewed by a prominent magazine for an article back in 2003, and after reading it today, nothing has changed in Telstra. Its helpdesk continues to work as though it is in a bubble, refuses to offer anything that resembles service, and if your problem is not on their pre-prepared script, you will not get a response, other than it will be fixed in 24-48 hours. The rest of Telstra continue to make changes to the system which affect users, treating the user with alleged disdain. There appears to be no clear understanding of what change management means in the organisation.

    The recent Email outages (which is what the article was about in 2003) are a perfect example of the confusion that exists within the organisation. Two of my clients (the only ones left on a Telstra contract) were told by the Telstra help desk, that to resolve the mail issues, they were going to reset the clients Bigpond p****word to resolve the issue. Considering that none of the Telstra published mail servers were responding at all (standard communications test), there was no way, changing the p****word was going to correct it. End result, the customer still has no internet/email connection for 24 hours, and even when it came back, two days later, their ADSL router loses the connection because it has the wrong p****word installed. Telstra's helpdesk still refuses to believe or support the fact that people use firewalls or routers with multiple computers connected to the ADSL line. It reminds me of the days when 28800 baud modems were being used, and Telstra's standard line was that their Telephone lines will only support 2400 baud.

    As for Telstra rolling out the fact that a large number of respondents to the latest survey were in an IT related field, maybe they should take more notice, instead of dismissing it. It won't be long now, until many of those "mum & dad" clients of Telstra, start to understand that the reason that they couldn't send an email, wasn't the result of them not knowing what they were doing, but actually Telstra not knowing what they are doing!!

    As a last note. Before Telstra start getting excited about having a shackeled helpdesk available 24x7, might they look to improving their basic Business Telephone service response, which current sits at 5 days if you are unlucky to have a weekend in the middle. Telstra must still believe that the rest of Australian Businesses close over the weekend.

    lol, they wish to improve thei ...Anonymous -- 10/04/05

    lol, they wish to improve their customer service? maby they should start by using aussies and not outsorcing to india.

    Telstra's Bigpond maybe be the ...Anonymous -- 10/04/05

    Telstra's Bigpond maybe be the biggest ISP but it is also the worst as far as residential adsl broadband customers go.
    Its the instability of their authentication servers which are up and down, their helpdesk cant not be understood and/or cant understand what is being said because they are mostly not Australian english speaking and IF they are they dont know what or how to fix a problem. EG they just parrot stuff from a piece of paper.
    The whirlpool is pretty damn close to the truth in the real world and Telstra amd Bigpond NEED to get into the real world.
    Telstra Country Wide how-ever is a different kettle altogether.

    It really would help that the ...Anonymous -- 10/04/05

    It really would help that the following things happen:

    (1) The writer of this article get their facts straight before writing.
    (2) Telstra get any sort of clue at all... the numbers of disgruntled customers doesn't surprise me in any way

    This survey justified some of ...Anonymous -- 10/04/05

    This survey justified some of their customers complains that the Bigpond customer service is awful and somewhat dumb, mostly when they deal with their novice computer knowledge customers. I know because i'm working in a computer shops

    TELSTRA = Poor value plans, fl ...Anonymous -- 10/04/05

    TELSTRA = Poor value plans, flaky DNS servers, unreliable email servers, and poor overseas latency/ping issues.

    It is up to us "power users" to tell every new Telstra user to make the switch to better ISP's.

    Wake up Telstra - just because you are the biggest ISP doesn't mean you are the best ISP.

    telstra is the best isp Anonymous -- 05/08/05 (in reply to #120115564)

    according to telstra magazine

    If telstra is complaining abou ...Anonymous -- 10/04/05

    If telstra is complaining about the high level of IT people in the survey - and they are not happy with the service, then god help the averageuser!!!

    The survey is not representiti ...Anonymous -- 10/04/05

    The survey is not representitive of the customer base of ISPs such as BigPond - that's clear from the survey data.

    That does not, however, mean that BigPond's service and support isn't awful. I can attest to that first-hand, in fact.

    Key characteristics of BigPond support are (a) long wait times, (b) being p****ed around from person to person without a straight answer on anything, (c) having to push rather hard to get people's names and to ensure your calls are properly logged, (d) the inability to actually speak to someone empowered to make a decision on something when that is necessary.

    They're good at fixing "my computer won't connect to the Intarweb" when the phone line is unplugged - so long as you're patient. Their support for more advanced issues or less common system configurations is terrible to non-existent.

    Of course, that's just my experience, and I understand they have improved things a little since I was with them (some time ago). I've had enough comments from staff at work who use BigPond to know they haven't made it good yet, though.

    I have to agree with Telstra o ...Anonymous -- 11/04/05

    I have to agree with Telstra on this one, being a long term customer and Whirlpool user as well as an IT professional I find the service to be most satisfactory. I would even go as far as recommending it to customers.

    Sadly over recent months to years Whirlpool has been a growing community of whining people who just simply do not know what they have compared to the market. I cannot speak for the ADSL service that Telstra provides, but their cable service is simply unmatched by any competitor.

    Ofcourse, I do agree there are some areas in which the service could improve, but it hardly deserves an awful rating.

    He basically said, "Peopl ...Anonymous -- 11/04/05

    He basically said, "People who know what they're doing hate our service." I think it was very brave of him to admit that. Of course, people with a clue are definitely not their target customer.

    But telstra 24 hour support is ...Anonymous -- 11/04/05

    But telstra 24 hour support is useless.
    firstly you have to wait for about 3 hours before you actually get to talk to someone, and then when you do they don't actually support anything but the crap alcatel usb modem. The other services may only have suport during buisness hours, but you rarely actually need to call the support.

    Bigpond gets savaged by Whirlp ...Anonymous -- 11/04/05

    Bigpond gets savaged by Whirlpool broadband survey is a better title.

    Very lame responses. Who else but IT people are a good judge on whether or not your IT products and services are garbage? Other people may think that a flaky connection and poor reliability is the way the internet is.

    Interesting that Bigpond states that the survey makes invalid comparisions between other ISPs and itself? Shouldn't a business compare itself to its competitors on every level? Perhaps it would be more appropriate to compare it to Microsoft, one monopoly to another.

    Good service isn't having a 24/7 support line. Good support is answering your phone in a short period of time, having someone with brains at the other end, being upfront if your broadband pipeline is having "issues" and solving the any problems ASAP. Things Telstra is noted to have problems with.

    I would also note that Whirlpool just won some IT and media awards for its reporting. It is a credible and reputable site.

    Spin, spin and spin again Telstra.

    "Forty-seven percent of r ...Anonymous -- 11/04/05

    "Forty-seven percent of respondents said they worked in the IT sector in some capacity" << aww poor Telstra. Sounds like they are disapointed they couldn't fool us IT Pro's like they fool all the "Mum and Dad" types.

    "Stop Yelling at me" ...Anonymous -- 11/04/05

    "Stop Yelling at me" was the response of a frined to a BigPond customer service rep just two days ago. I know what my friend thinks of BigPond -His words - "They Suck". My friend is not a complete computer novice, but he does not have any IT education or nor has he done any computer courses, and he didn't grow up with it. Sounds to me like he's about an average user. The BigPond help desk consultant continued to yell at my friend so he hung up.

    Telstra this is not an isolated case. Your service really does "suck".

    Tel$tra only complain about th ...Anonymous -- 11/04/05

    Tel$tra only complain about the high end IT users because they know they are getting screwed. Tel$tra just doesn't want the mum's and dad's to find out about it.

    Please add "in denial&quo ...Anonymous -- 11/04/05

    Please add "in denial" to the list of complaints.

    If Telstra (& TPG) want to ...Anonymous -- 11/04/05

    If Telstra (& TPG) want to improve their service all they have to do is answer the freaking phone within 5 minutes of you placing the call.

    ROFLOL! Look at all the feedba ...Anonymous -- 11/04/05

    ROFLOL! Look at all the feedback for this article. Can you see the love for Telstra? Makes me want to bash Telstra too even though I haven't tried (and didn't intend to) their broadband service.

    They are good at marketing though. And you don't have to have the best product to have the best sales.

    Telstra abuse their enormous m ...Anonymous -- 11/04/05

    Telstra abuse their enormous market power regulary. what's new. when they get caught doing 1 tactic, they just change to another and repeat. The corporate fat cats down at T HQ just can't handle the truth and want to continue along in dreamland with foolish majority of userbase in tow. la la la happy joy joy. Unfortunatley this has side effects of screwing the rest of us over in the process. And damaging Australian IT as a whole. It's greedy pig T's fault we are always years behind most other developed nations. They hold things back on purpose, always have.

    Just don't forget who really c ...Anonymous -- 11/04/05

    Just don't forget who really controls Telstra: the Government (aka little Johnny Howard and his band of merry corner shop keepers). The actual owners (hi Johnny) of Telstra don't want management to spend money to improve infrastructure and services because it will hurt the bottom line in the lead-up to the big garage sale! That is why over a billion dollar's worth of business and umpteen thousand jobs have evaporated from the local scene - BTW, welcome to the third world: today we are serviced by it; tomorrow we are it.

    And don't blame Telstra management for not being able to run a real business, because they were chosen by those same corner shop keepers (you know, the ones who couldn't ogranise a chook raffle in a hotel on Friday night). These guys don't actually know what telecommunications is, let alone the intricacies of data networking. The dearly departed Ziggy, for example, was bored with running a telephone company and frittered away two billion dollars in trying make Telstra an international player in the dot.com frenzy.

    This is why Australia is continually losing ground in OECD surveys of IT readiness, telecommunications availability and "smartness." While little Johnny is hoarding budget surpluses in his little piggy bank in Canberra, the country is going to hell in a handbasket. And don't expect him to apologise, because you don't count.

    None so blind as those that ca ...Anonymous -- 12/04/05

    None so blind as those that cannot see...

    Telstra /Bigpond senior management is to blame for the dismal performance of their BB and dial up service. The government only directs the basic outline of the service.
    You only have to experience the lag while trying to access their web sites to sample their problems. Their sites have been bogged down for years and nothing has been done to solve it.

    The recent introduction of streaming games is a joke. Why do they ignore their obvious problems and try to introduce "add ons"?? Look no further than their senior management, they are not hard to find, they're the ones with their heads in the sand!!

    Well BigPond you've shot yours ...Anonymous -- 12/04/05

    Well BigPond you've shot yourself in the foot this time. If your saying the your customer base Are not Computer savy and that the Whirlpoolians are Professionals or Gurus in the IT field.
    Who's lead would you follow?
    Someone who conciders you ignorant and unknowing (and is counting on it)
    Or would you follow the path of the pro's in seacrh of the best service avalible.

    Yes I agree, Telstra for two t ...Anonymous -- 12/04/05

    Yes I agree, Telstra for two thirds of the year takes a step forward and improves over the year before, then for one third of the year takes two or more steps backwards and that's how it's been for the last 7 years.

    Can I think back to when the last bad experience was? Yes, yust last week the authentication servers were out for a couple of days and the recorded messages went on and on about other rubbish before I got a change to talk to a person.

    As a Bigpond user & not ha ...Anonymous -- 12/04/05

    As a Bigpond user & not having seen the survey. I would have say that the Telstra service is fine when it is working, but when there are problems (far to frequently) service is pathetic at best. Telstra's outsourced level one service providers (Teletec)would be lucky if they could spell Broadband, least of all know how the service operates. As for Telstra, there is a complete lack of ownership during the fault resolution process. The Broadband MD oc****ionally sends out emails saying what a good job they are doing, but is shielded from irate customers by a team of incompetent middle managers. DT

    To me, it was like watching a ...Anonymous -- 13/04/05

    To me, it was like watching a news story where kids misbehave and out of control... and then the parents (in this case TELSTRA) just said "it's not us who's the problem... it is the society's" ...... yes.. TELSTRA... never one to admit responsibility themselves.. blame someone else (in this case, the survey).
    The TELSTRA spokesperson must have just crawled out of a hole after the survey, with hands cupped over the ears and screaming out "what problem? we're not the problem, you users are"

    Who would know better? So T$ s ...Anonymous -- 13/04/05

    Who would know better?

    So T$ say the survey was conducted by broadband community site Whirlpool, whose users, Telstra claims, "are high-end ... rather than reflective of the general Internet-using community".

    An who better would know about service than high end users? The Joe Average Citizen does not know what he does not know. He just accepts the service he gets and does not know how to complain.

    So far I have only counted 3 o ...Anonymous -- 13/04/05

    So far I have only counted 3 or 4 comments that support, or at least don't bash, Telstra out of 35.
    Seems about right if my own experience with Telstra is anything to go by.
    As a PC tech who makes house calls every day to fix computer problems, I know that if I get a call from someone about a problem with their internet 9 times out of 10 they will be a Telstra customer, in fact I'm about to go out to fix a telstra internet problem now :) (true)

    If they'd only fix the numerous problems instead of advertising in all media forms that they don't have any problems and are in fact the BEST ISP you could use, things might get a bit better for those poor sods who were coned into using telstra in the first place.

    One would think that the more ...Anonymous -- 13/04/05

    One would think that the more experienced the respondents are (eg IT professional,s and power users) the better they'd be able to rate a service, due to having soem clue about metrics, probalby some experience with otehr services and actualy undesrtanding things like ping, bandwidth, etc.

    I am glad to see Bigpond have ...Anonymous -- 18/04/05

    I am glad to see Bigpond have been critised for their inability to fix problems.

    I am sure my recent saga of continuous dropouts was Bigpond's fault and they continually tried to blame my end as being the cause of the problem. At the least, they could of told me WHY it was my end rather than simply pointing the finger.

    Their phone support team are very frustating as their knowledge is so limited. This is annoying considering that I have waited for up to 45-60 minutes on some occasions. This is no exaggeration.

    I really believe Bigpond knew what the reason for the dropouts were but did not tell the support team as it would be an admission that it was their fault.

    The other reason why I don't believe it was my fault is that the dropouts have lessened. I just cannot be be bothered to contact them at this point in time. They really do NOT care.

    If you think Telstra would tak ...Anonymous -- 18/04/05

    If you think Telstra would take any notice of a Whirlpool survey, you've got something coming!

    Telstra knows that Whirlpool is bias towards other ISP's, and a great majority of its users love to hate Telstra.

    There is also suspicion that users not on Bigpond, conducted the survey pretending to be a user of the Bigpond service in order to rate it as low as possible.

    Telstra is a very important corporation in this country, sure if they became a little more customer focused (ie improving reliability and service) and being more proactive rather than reactive, they would claw back the market share in the broadband market. And this means larger profits for the company, which means more money to finance ADSL/ADSL2/+ coverage, which would invariably have positive consequences on not just home users but businesses all around the country.

    I think it only fair you link ...Anonymous -- 17/05/05

    I think it only fair you link to the Whirlpool survey so people can read it for themselves.
    http://whirlpool.net.au/survey/results2004.htm

    All I wish to say to Bigpond i ...Anonymous -- 29/05/05

    All I wish to say to Bigpond is: How many ways can one spell "awful"?

    I think Bigpond Billing is sti ...Anonymous -- 29/05/05

    I think Bigpond Billing is still operating at Full Speed!

    Either Bigpond has something t ...Anonymous -- 29/05/05

    Either Bigpond has something to do with the Whirlpool site, or they monitor it seriously!

    I got one of my correctly-worded posts censored and erased because I said that, after having my Broadband shaped by Bigpond just three days before the end of the month, I couldn't down-size my plan less than five days before the end of the month! But, and I checked, one can cancel everything instantly!

    Mysteriously, thirty minutes after writing that, my Broadband speed was restored to full speed.

    Bigpond, I think it is too late! I have had a terrible time over the past year with you.

    Quote "A Telstra spokespe ...Anonymous -- 30/07/05

    Quote "A Telstra spokesperson described the survey -- where 22 percent of respondents who used BigPond rated its service as 'awful' and a further 43 percent as 'average' -- as using "extremely basic methodology," making invalid comparisons and skewed by the characteristics of its authors."

    It seems funny to me that BigPond don't like the results of the survey because the survey is made up of mainly people who know what they are talking about. BP obviously would like some more noobs to be included in the survey because noobs can't tell when they are receiving a bad product or service.

    Quote "A Telstra spokespe ...Anonymous -- 30/07/05

    Quote "A Telstra spokesperson described the survey -- where 22 percent of respondents who used BigPond rated its service as 'awful' and a further 43 percent as 'average' -- as using "extremely basic methodology," making invalid comparisons and skewed by the characteristics of its authors."

    It seems funny to me that BigPond don't like the results of the survey because the survey is made up of mainly people who know what they are talking about. BP obviously would like some more noobs to be included in the survey because noobs can't tell when they are receiving a bad product or service.

    Testra Bigpond service Anonymous -- 14/11/05

    Let us not become too emotional when it comes to assessing the quality of Telstra Bigpond BB service for residential use. I have subscribed to a 512/128 plan and my tests have revealed that the ‘oversubscription ratio’ is about 10:1. In plain language, this means that the download streaming speed is about 55 Kb/s. I guess this performance has all to do with the assumptions that Telstra management makes regarding the burstiness of the downloaded data.

    Telstra just made a fool out of themselves Anonymous -- 11/05/06

    Telstra was a good for about 14 months but after that the internet speed just slowed down to about the speed of a 28kbp modem.I have lots of issues which are far too many to list here about the shotty internet but the most annoying is the VERY high ping times on my online games thus being a super gamer this bugs me the most. I've had enough and i am switching to Dodo or Optus when i get teh chance

    Telstra RIPP OFFs at 400,000% - No really!!! Anonymous -- 23/08/06

    2Shane2
    Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - Telstra Rip OFFs -the prepaid home.
    Yeah.. the prepaid home is good if only on 2 points... cheap line rental and it saves people fighting over the phone bill in shared houses...

    You organise your own prepaid account on this line and you burn up your own money as you see fit and no one else is affected by your phone habits excessive or otherwise.

    But the call charges..... Today at 8.30am, I wanted to ring my girl in a town 75km away - and ~$25 gives me an hours call time....What ???, that's around 50C a minute;

    Sure the more technically adept say that Telstra has set call charges and I may be getting it wrong on the $25 per hour, but that changes like clockwork too...

    I had $25 in the account and that's what the automated clap trap said when I dialed up.

    The service is pricewise, more of a scam than the Dodgy Brothers with smack habits.

    Did I hear the words "**** Rip Off +"?

    Yahoo are now offering international phone calls over 12,000Km at 1.5C a minute computer to computer.

    I can use the suspect prepaid cards to call the USA (~12,000Km) for a few cents a minute...

    And telstra, in rural terms, when more or less making a "local call" lock a call rate in that is about 400,000% higher than an international call...

    (call rate) 50c a minute / 2c a minute = 2500% higher calling rate

    (distance ratio) 12,000Km / 75Km = ratio of 160 times further to the USA than it is to the girlfriends place...

    2500% x 160 = 400,000%

    Like I said **** Telstra.

    And the NO ADSL on the prepaid???? What??? Did I hear John Howard and his sleazy liberal party buddies and their corporate backers pulling thier ecumenical dicks or are they just jangling the ever expanding wad of coins in thier pockets?

    Go Google "Shane Hanson" + Telstra; for some more fiery insights on how Telstra RIPS people off blind.

    Take the good with the bad here. Anonymous -- 17/04/08

    Comparison between Customer Service of TPG and Bigpond is a bit one sided. Granted, TPG does have poor service because of their CC held offshore - but the plans they provide are far superior..

    Take the good with the bad here..
    TPG = Bad service Vs Good plans.
    wait, that wont work..
    Bigpond = Bad Service and Bad Plan =/

    24/7 Anonymous -- 21/12/08

    Indee their customer service is appalling - they guarantee 'a response within 24 hours' - and indeed you'll get one - an automated response saying that they can't respond within 24 hours!!

    So they suggest that you 'phone and you get a recorded message saying to call again because they are too busy.

    I really hope Rudd keeps them out of the outback high speed broadband - some competition would be of benefit in our otherwise monopoly market.

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