Aust open source body lashes Gartner analysis

By Staff writers, ZDNet Australia
01 October 2004 05:10 PM
Tags: linux, windows, gartner, uk, osia, piracy, pirate, jump
Open source lobby group Open Source Industry Australia (OSIA) has lashed out at Gartner analyst Annette Jump's claim that pre-installing Linux on PCs encourages piracy of Windows.

OSIA spokesperson Steven D'Aprano said Jump's findings were "extremely dubious" and the analyst's logic was " problematic at best and farcical at worst," since there was no fully specified methodology and a presentation of all raw numbers and polling methods.

"There is no advantage to PC resellers in using Linux as a means of shipping lower price PCs, which in turn are used to pirate Windows. These PC vendors can simply ship a PC without any operating system at all. This would make the resulting computer even cheaper than deploying Linux on it, as zero effort is needed to image the system. If PC vendors are selling computers with Linux pre-installed, that can only mean there is demand for Linux on the desktop," said D'Aprano.

"The Linux community is opposed to software piracy in all its forms. There is no advantage to the Linux community in using pirated Windows," he added. D'Aprano added that only Microsoft benefits from piracy.

"As Jump herself admits, 'Microsoft closed its eyes to counterfeiting, actually preferring that users turned to phoney versions rather than go to Linux. [This would] lock users into other Microsoft products'," D'Aprano said quoting Jump's analysis.

D'Aprano said that if Gartner's conclusion were correct, then the logic can be extended by stating "that pre-installing Windows in turn must clearly encourage people to pirate application-level software; if there was no Windows OS on the PC, then users couldn't pirate other products like Photoshop, Microsoft Office or Dreamweaver which need Windows in order to be used".

"If Microsoft has a problem with piracy, it shouldn't be blamed on OEMs who sell PCs with Linux pre-installed or no operating system at all," continued D'Aprano.

"To discourage vendors from selling PCs with Linux installed because of the hypothetical loss of revenue to Microsoft goes against the spirit of the free market. While Microsoft seeks to avoid competition in the market, the Linux community believes in the free market. We have a better product at a cheaper price and Microsoft can't compete except by blaming us for piracy."

He added that Gartner should have observed the low incidence of illegal copying of open source software products.

"As such open source software can contribute billions of dollars to local economies by reducing software piracy. After two decades of closed source's failure to address rampant piracy, open source provides the only credible, and successful solution to the problem. If it was serious about the piracy problem Gartner would be out there supporting preloaded Linux," concluded D'Aprano.

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Talkback 7 comments

    Great reply by Mr. D'Aprano. ...Anonymous -- 02/10/04

    Great reply by Mr. D'Aprano. Gartner can be such fools sometimes, well most of the time. A cold beer from sunny San Juan, PR to my Aussie friends down under.

    Maybe the next Gartner report ...Anonymous -- 02/10/04

    Maybe the next Gartner report will show that pre-installing Windows on computers leads to more virus problems in the world. Microsoft may come to it's senses and stop all shipments of Windows to relieve the situation.

    Well, the Gartner analysis wou ...Anonymous -- 02/10/04

    Well, the Gartner analysis would be correct in stating that most machines pre-sold with Linux installed would be mostly used for running a pirate version of windows. However, it's a very misleading claim, considering that many chain retailers will not supply a pc without an OS, so it is merely the lack of choice of an OS free pc that causes the statement to be partially true. Nobody with a working brain could honestly think that Linux is the cause of Windows piracy.

    I read Gartners predictions re ...Anonymous -- 02/10/04

    I read Gartners predictions regulary.
    Over the years I have come to the conclusion that they are actually no studies, but rather guesses, sometimes wild guesses.
    Also, Gartner likes to represent the first half of facts, and leaves it to the reader to draw the wrong conclusion.
    A good example I read a few days ago.
    I do not remember the exact wording, but something like this:
    80% of all PCs shipped with linux will be replaced with illegal copies of windows.
    That was the first half, leading to let you believe that nobody likes linux.
    The second half , the reason. was not given to you.
    When people in these countries get a Linux loaded PC, they indeed do erase linux, immediatly load a pirated copy of windeows, mostly winXP Pro, which they pay $4.00 for, and then, immediatly load their favorite version of linux.
    The reason for this is that trying to load Windows after linux is installed causes a lot of problems for these people, as the majority is not too technical, and most of them, are in the process of learning, and are not looking for more trouble than necessary.
    Just a different view than Gartner.
    BTW: I live amongst them for 10 years already.
    NB: the above is not the full story, just a short one.

    Jason Green, how the hell can ...Anonymous -- 02/10/04

    Jason Green,

    how the hell can you make a claim like:

    "..the Gartner analysts would be correct in stating that 80% of PCs sold with Linux will be then re-installed with Windows."

    How would you know?

    Where is your evidence?

    Why would anyone bother to buy a PC with Linux pre-installed only to wipe it and put Windows on?

    Anon-e-mouse, you really do ta ...Anonymous -- 03/10/04

    Anon-e-mouse, you really do take Linux fanatacism to new heights... did you even read what I said? It's just amazing the lengths that you will go to, evangelising an OPERATING SYSTEM. I was actually supporting the claim that the Gartner analysis is flawed, but you find a need to attack me anyway. You really should look up the word objective and try to apply it to your comments, as all you seem to do is attack anyone who isn't a Linux flag waver. Oh, how old are you by the way? I'm just curious.

    Jason Green... Yes, I am here ...Anonymous -- 03/10/04

    Jason Green... Yes, I am here to evangelise Linux. At least that's open and clear for the world to see. I believe in Linux and want it to become the dominant platform for servers, PCs, everything. That's my professional goal in life and I will see that goal to fruition.

    What the hell are you doing here? Who pays for your mouth, dude? My aims are transparent. What are yours?

    Also, _you_ didn't answer my questions:

    how the hell can you make a claim like:

    "..the Gartner analysts would be correct in stating that 80% of PCs sold with Linux will be then re-installed with Windows."

    How would you know?

    Where is your evidence?

    Why would anyone bother to buy a PC with Linux pre-installed only to wipe it and put Windows on?

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