Ansearch launches amid domain name dispute

Local search engine Ansearch will begin commercial operations today despite being accused of domain name poaching.

The company, which has been in beta phase over the past few months, has come under fire in the last few weeks for registering common misspellings of popular domain names like 'yahho.com.au'. Ansearch is willing to transfer the domain names of any company which protests, and has even publicly listed a free-call 1800 number for complaints. However, there has yet to be any interest.

"Nobody has approached Ansearch with respect to their domain yet," Ansearch CEO Dean Jones told ZDNet Australia . "It turned into a very interesting storm in a teacup."

The company is in discussions with .au Domain Administration (auDA), the body which administers domain names in Australia, to iron out the issue.

Jones said auDA's policy on misspellings of popular domain names needs to go through a testing process -- a process that has yet to take place.

He claimed the act of registering misspellings of popular domain names was common in the search engine industry. "You have a current situation where someone like a ninemsn will receive that traffic if we do not," he said. "So on a competitive level we at least needed to explore it."

The company has also unveiled a demographic searching feature which provides results that are particularly relevant to age and gender. Jones cited the example of those searching within the general category of real estate. "The younger end of the market view more rental property sites while older age groups tend to search for commercial or investment property," he said.

No tracking mechanism for users' search habits are currently in place but he said in future, through "toolbars and other methods", a visitor's demographic profile could be revealed.

He said Ansearch was not attempting to be "the library of the Internet" as competitor Google was. "In the short term," he said, "the nature of our engine is focusing very heavily on the commercial end of the market."

Ansearch was acquired by technology holding group Optum in September 2004.

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  1. I am not aware of any other search engine driving traffic by registering misspellings of popular domain names. Perhaps Mr Jones meant that such practices where common amongst spammers, scammers and those that compete in the competitive realms of gaming or Anonymous -- 05/04/05

    I am not aware of any other search engine driving traffic by registering misspellings of popular domain names. Perhaps Mr Jones meant that such practices where common amongst spammers, scammers and those that compete in the competitive realms of gaming or porn?

  2. 1800 number? Where is this publically listed? It's not in the article - and not on the Ansearch website? No wonder no one has called it!!! Anonymous -- 05/04/05

    1800 number? Where is this publically listed? It's not in the article - and not on the Ansearch website? No wonder no one has called it!!!

  3. Well, if a 1800 is listed on the ansearch site then it must be invisisible to the naked eye. I went through every page, link, heading etc to find any reference to a 1800 complaint line but all I could find was their address and a 1300 number, and even th Anonymous -- 05/04/05

    Well, if a 1800 is listed on the ansearch site then it must be invisisible to the naked eye. I went through every page, link, heading etc to find any reference to a 1800 complaint line but all I could find was their address and a 1300 number, and even that was hidden way way away in their privacy policy. Who the heck would think to look for a 'contact us' under a privacy policy at the very bottom of a webpage? What gives? For those interested, or who can't be bothered here are their contact details:

    Ansearch Pty Ltd:
    IBM Building
    Level 27, 60 City Road
    Southbank, Victoria 3006
    AUSTRALIA
    Ph: 1300 852 722

  4. Ansearch may not have had their phones ringing as yet, because most companies are too busy talking to their legal departments! (It seems that there was a typo and 1800 meant 1300.) The dodgy domain name registrations is only one of the focus points on Ans Anonymous -- 06/04/05

    Ansearch may not have had their phones ringing as yet, because most companies are too busy talking to their legal departments! (It seems that there was a typo and 1800 meant 1300.) The dodgy domain name registrations is only one of the focus points on Ansearch - I mean does anyone find their results helpful? Has anyone even heard of them? Promoting themselves as popular due to Hitwise traffic reports is kinda meaningless if the traffic is pumped up.

  5. I found a really long list of the domains - http://www.scumware.com/apps/scumware.php/action::view_article/article_id::1112324646/topic::Articles/ Aussies check your name - you might find it here. Anonymous -- 09/04/05

    I found a really long list of the domains - http://www.scumware.com/apps/scumware.php/action::view_article/article_id::1112324646/topic::Articles/ Aussies check your name - you might find it here.

  6. Noticed that your site is not in Google or Yahoo lately? Ansearch may be the answer! They seem to steal traffic by creating a cache of popular sites with identical meta tags and title tags. This replaces the original site in say google Anonymous -- 16/04/05

    Noticed that your site is not in Google or Yahoo lately?

    Ansearch may be the answer! They seem to steal traffic by creating a cache of popular sites with identical meta tags and title tags.

    This replaces the original site in say google. Instead of clicking on your site, users are clicking on ansearches cache of your site giving them a unique visit.

    Simple but effectively "bludging" traffic!

  7. Ansearch - Search Engine Spammers. Not just dodgy domain name registration techniques or even just content theft via page scrapping, but also search engine spammers? How many duplicate copies of their directory do they need out there? Anonymous -- 17/04/05

    Ansearch - Search Engine Spammers.

    Not just dodgy domain name registration techniques or even just content theft via page scrapping, but also search engine spammers? How many duplicate copies of their directory do they need out there?

    Ansearch seems to be significantly skewing search engine results in the major search eninges with:

    1) The 302 redirectors to the domains registered that are misspellings or piggy backs of popular websites, companies, name or words.

    2) The stolen content of listed websites via the features - cached, details & sitemap pages.

    3) Duplication of the directory over multiple domains:
    directory.onvic.com.au
    directory.qbfm.com.au
    bookwatch.com.au/directory
    beccartwright.com.au/directory

    Maybe more & of course the .co.uk & .com versions - I hate to think where porntal.com.au fits in with it all as well.

    It's interesting to note the unrest with shareholders in Ansearch's parent company - Optum ASX: OPM

    I've heard talk of attempts to ****ist Optum get ahead and try to keep the company afloat by clicking on the pay per click ads on Ansearch. In my opinion that amounts to click fraud.

    I've heard talk of shareholders believing that Ansearch could become another Google -HA- tell me one person that thinks their engine is cool or even good?

    Of interest - While the Australian market is currently in decline, why is it that Optum (parent of Ansearch) is the top traded stock by volume currently?

    "The top-traded stock by volume was Optum Health Ltd, with 92.66 million securities worth $370,475 changing hands. Its share price was unchanged at 0.4 of a cent."

    Who's behind it, who is making the bucks? Curious minds want to know :)

  8. As a Optum shareholder I read your posts with horror, as well as the recent press. I followed up your links. I don't get it. Scumware articles are very detailed but the first they have written for months. Anonymous, are you talking to yourself. Is th Anonymous -- 31/05/05

    As a Optum shareholder I read your posts with horror, as well as the recent press. I followed up your links. I don't get it. Scumware articles are very detailed but the first they have written for months. Anonymous, are you talking to yourself. Is there reality in your arguments. I don't understand what you talk about.

    Have called Ansearch – they say they have had only two requested from webmasters to have sites removed from their database. The Australian IT article says the ABC do not care. All this spamming and scraping you talk about – are they breaking the law or not, because as shareholder I want to know. What is this talk of click fraud? I read hotcopper and one poster joked about clicking on ads to help them out. Is that what you hear – day-traders fitzing. Have followed your links and the links to links and Ansearch just bugs a couple of people talking among themselves. You have wasted my time checking out your allegations. I am stupid to put faith in anonymous poster. Optum shareholders are suffering. You are just playing. If you are really onto to something, talk to people that matter, that hold the law. Do us shareholders a favour. Get some balls Anonymous.

  9. One rule for the small guys... another for the biggies Anonymous -- 08/11/05

    Domain Name: friendster.com.au
    Last Modified: 01-Aug-2005 05:58:23 UTC
    Registrar ID: R00010-AR
    Registrar Name: Melbourne IT
    Status: OK

    Registrant: RSVP.COM.AU P/L
    Registrant ID: ACN 067935737

    Registrant ROID: C2994867-AR
    Registrant Contact Name: Mal Whittaker
    Registrant Email: mal@staff.rsvp.com.au

    Tech ID: C2994867-AR
    Tech Name: Mal Whittaker
    Tech Email: mal@staff.rsvp.com.au

    Name Server: ns2.fairfax.com.au
    Name Server IP: 203.5.59.241
    Name Server: ns1.fairfax.com.au
    Name Server IP: 203.26.177.241

  10. ansearch WARREN BUFF -- 23/04/06

    i bet everyone or at least 9 out of 10 people try something to make money,there is no such thing as easy money.whats the diff when it comes to selling number plates for thousands of dollars?RTA PROPERTY ISN'T IT

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